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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 01:45:03 No.1679507 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1679510 >>1679527 >>1679968 >>1680057 >>1680146 >>1682831

Who else here is anti-deep ecology? Nature isn't beautiful or Gaia rainbows. It only produces suffering for hundreds of millions of years via self cannibalization and should be nuked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 01:48:11 No.1679510 Report

Quoted By: >>1679963

>>1679507
>>>/an/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 02:07:29 No.1679527 Report

Quoted By: >>1679529 >>1680964 >>1682826

>>1679507
I've almost died a few times doing adventure sports and I would be more than happy to go out doing something invigorating.
When you are in nature, and your life is on the line, you're harmonized. You're not afraid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 02:08:38 No.1679529 Report

Quoted By: >>1679963

>>1679527
and I feel bad that most people never get to understand this, it is the most liberating realization a human can make

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:19:24 No.1679963 Report

Quoted By: >>1679967 >>1680014 >>1680293 >>1680330 >>1680386

>>1679510
>>1679529
While you're out larping as Indiana Jones, your crush is getting double teamed by Tyone and his buddy Jamal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:31:52 No.1679967 Report

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>>1679963
fuck off degenerate fantasist kike.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:32:17 No.1679968 Report

Quoted By: >>1679978 >>1679985 >>1680021

>>1679507
Only hippies care about gay shit like that. Deep ecology is realizing modern human existence is dog shit and we need to go back to a time before industrialization to save both humanity and the natural processes which will support our future existence and provide the setting for mankind to begin living meaningful lives again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:44:54 No.1679978 Report

Quoted By: >>1679982

>>1679968
>. Deep ecology is realizing modern human existence is dog shit and we need to go back to a time before industrialization
>10,000,000 people pooping at the same time in 20 sq miles
>more like deep shit ecology

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:52:08 No.1679982 Report

Quoted By: >>1679986 >>1679987

>>1679978
What makes you think that there is room for 7 billion people in this future?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:55:21 No.1679985 Report

Quoted By: >>1679988

>>1679968
Why save humanity if you only care about the ubermensch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:55:25 No.1679986 Report

Quoted By: >>1679992

>>1679982
What makes you think 80% of more of the population could survive even 3 months after the grid goes down?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:55:31 No.1679987 Report

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>>1679982

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:56:37 No.1679988 Report

Quoted By: >>1680017

>>1679985
Self survival through eternal struggle is the iron law of nature. Either become gods or be lost to the endless sands of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 16:58:01 No.1679992 Report

Quoted By: >>1679998

>>1679986
What makes you think thats not part of the plan?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 17:04:55 No.1679998 Report

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>>1679992
What makes you think I don't know the plan and aren't in the process of re-vacuum bag sealing 12 months worth of freeze dried food.

Let it end.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 17:30:58 No.1680014 Report

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>>1679963
It says a lot about someone when they can't help but mention their cuck fantasy in every post they make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 17:31:18 No.1680017 Report

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>>1679988
>gods
Only humans have the potential to be gods. What do you think about the "purpose" of the rest of the biosphere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 17:34:09 No.1680021 Report

Quoted By: >>1680036

>>1679968
>I believe in...
That sounded almost like Ed Abbey, do you think he read her work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 17:54:38 No.1680036 Report

Quoted By: >>1680047

>>1680021
She sounds like a shitty Ayn Rand

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 18:16:51 No.1680047 Report

Quoted By: >>1680055 >>1680061

>>1680036
Imagine how big of a retard you have to be to think this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 18:28:24 No.1680055 Report

Quoted By: >>1680068

>>1680047
They both worship ubermensch retard, she just puts a Gaia cherry on top

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 18:29:14 No.1680057 Report

Quoted By: >>1680061 >>1680065

>>1679507
>It only produces suffering
>only
not a factual or rational statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 18:32:06 No.1680061 Report

Quoted By: >>1680068 >>1680082

>>1680047
>Author Stephen Newman compares the Randian hero to the concept of the Übermensch created by philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, saying that "the Randian hero is really Nietzsche's superman in the guise of the entrepreneur".
Retard

>>1680057
It sounds hyperbolic but it's just saying that in the end the value of the suffering far outweighs any perceived "positives"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 18:35:50 No.1680065 Report

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>>1680057
All the "positives" are merely rewards for completing specific desires created by different types of brains. They are illusions

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 18:39:15 No.1680068 Report

Quoted By: >>1680072

>>1680055
>>1680061
>A jewish free market advocate vs the embodiment of dharma and national socialism are the same
>but muh ubermensch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 18:45:06 No.1680072 Report

Quoted By: >>1680073 >>1680081

>>1680068
>A caste of human Gods must rule the world
>Somehow equivalent to national socialism

The gods would just sterilize anyone who isn't close to a non God, then use the demi gods and robot AI to do their bidding as they transverse the universe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 18:46:08 No.1680073 Report

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>>1680072
>isn't close to a non God
*Close to being a God

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:00:17 No.1680081 Report

Quoted By: >>1680087

>>1680072
You have no idea what national socialism is. Read Mein Kampf and The lightning and the sun then we can talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:03:23 No.1680082 Report

Quoted By: >>1680098

>>1680061
>the value of the suffering far outweighs any perceived "positives"
whose suffering? Do you apply this to the human experience too? if so, why are you still alive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:15:11 No.1680087 Report

Quoted By: >>1680094

>>1680081
I know that it was invented in the 1930s and is an outdated ideology that was based on the practical needs of the time

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:24:53 No.1680094 Report

Quoted By: >>1680102 >>1680104

>>1680087
National socialism is not a political ideology but instead a way of looking at the world. Adolf was simply the latest in a long line of great men who tried to push humanity past this age of decay and bring back a golden age of enlightenment. By definition National Socialism can never be outdated because it is a philosophy of nature. No matter how advanced you believe we have become as a species you can never escape the basic laws which define our worldly existence. You can see in our current state of decline that once a race believes they have evolved beyond the need for struggle they will be destroyed by those who have the will to fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:28:46 No.1680098 Report

Quoted By: >>1680103 >>1680136

>>1680082
The suffering of all sentient animals in nature/wilderness. Nature's existence is pointless because it's sentient suffering has been happening for hundreds of millions of years on a scale we can't comprehend, for no perceivable benefit to the animals. It will very likely never change because in order to live in anything resembling a peaceful state, all animals would have to evolve to be even smarter than humans. Humans can potentially live in peace, but even then our desires are manufactured by our brains, so the amount we are willing to go through to fulfill them is dubious. But personally I give humanity a pass in judging their existence

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:32:57 No.1680102 Report

Quoted By: >>1680344

>>1680094
The ubermensch care little about race, they value intelligence and power. So how does a ideology that values the existence of a ruling Uber class and futurism above all else mesh with a ideology that values race and cultural heritage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:33:10 No.1680103 Report

Quoted By: >>1680109

>>1680098
>Nature's existence is pointless
>Humans can potentially live in peace

Without Nature, Humans would not and could not exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:34:01 No.1680104 Report

Quoted By: >>1681506

>>1680094
Recommend me some books anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:38:35 No.1680109 Report

Quoted By: >>1680116

>>1680103
We could probably eliminate most or all of the sentient animals and continue existing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 19:54:50 No.1680116 Report

Quoted By: >>1680139

>>1680109
>not understanding trophic cascade.

Without functioning ecosytems, it would likely be very difficult, if not impossible, for humans to exist on the planet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 20:19:48 No.1680136 Report

Quoted By: >>1680143

>>1680098
Suffering is not an inherently bad thing. In fact, without it there can be no pleasure. This is not just a boomer aphorism of "without bad times, how can you appreciate the good?"; it is an iron law. Imagine your life if you never suffered. It would be a dull hell no matter how much dopamine you injected, because you never struggled and won or lost. Just an endless stream of plastic entertainment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 20:25:03 No.1680139 Report

Quoted By: >>1680147

>>1680116
Is there any evidence of this? I'm speculating based on the existence of incredibly simple ecosystems (ex Boreal taiga) and the existence of human created monoculture forests. Plus that we can bioengineer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 20:30:40 No.1680143 Report

Quoted By: >>1680148 >>1680287

>>1680136
A permanent heroin high wouldn't be dull, you'd be to high to feel dullness. I'm just saying that animals have no choice in their existence, they are forced here, and their existence is incredibly brutal, and has been here for eons with no major change beyond the fluke that is humans, so why continue it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 20:32:54 No.1680146 Report

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>>1679507
Trees are pretty and animals are tasty. No big badda boom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 20:33:33 No.1680147 Report

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>>1680139
>Is there any evidence of this?
of trophic cascade? Yes. Quite a bit.
https://phys.org/news/2017-07-team-paradigm-trophic-cascades-infectious.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 20:34:44 No.1680148 Report

Quoted By: >>1680263

>>1680143
>their existence is incredibly brutal
sounds like anthrophomorific bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 21:20:23 No.1680170 Report

Quoted By: >>1680238

Holy fuck this thread is garbage.

It's a combination of poltards, people who hate the outdoors, and a gay OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 23:22:15 No.1680238 Report

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>>1680170
You're gay garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2020 23:58:04 No.1680263 Report

Quoted By: >>1680292 >>1680319

>>1680148
In some octopus species, 10,000 offspring die for every one that makes it to maturity. This is the foundation that nature is built off of. If you don't think it's brutal than you're a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 00:36:25 No.1680287 Report

Quoted By: >>1680322

>>1680143
Are you the guy who keeps posting brutal as a response to everything. I've seen you in like 5 threads retard. It's not brutal you are just a coward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 00:40:15 No.1680292 Report

Quoted By: >>1680322

>>1680263
>Things die
>noooo this is terrible!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 00:41:06 No.1680293 Report

Quoted By:

>>1679963
why do you hate black people?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 01:48:48 No.1680319 Report

Quoted By: >>1680322

>>1680263
People die dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 01:53:03 No.1680322 Report

Quoted By: >>1680324

>>1680287
>It's not brutal, says the man who doesn't have to live with it

>>1680292
You don't have to care, but you can't deny that it is bad

>>1680319
If you could push a button that created a planet similar to earth, but with no intelligent life present or ever possibly existing, would you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 01:56:01 No.1680324 Report

Quoted By: >>1680356

>>1680322
>If you could push a button that created a planet similar to earth, but with no intelligent life present or ever possibly existing, would you?

It probably already exists. So sure why not.

>You can't deny death is bad.

Are you 13 years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 02:00:40 No.1680330 Report

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>>1679963
Kill yourself. I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 02:03:19 No.1680333 Report

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Humans didn't evolve living in boxes. It's in our DNA to move, explore, and live by the rhythms of the planet.
t. 50% chug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 02:21:19 No.1680344 Report

Quoted By: >>1680358 >>1680361

>>1680102
Where did I ever mention futurism, instead I have continually referred to the soul sucking nature of technology. Ubermensch do not fall out of the sky, they are produced from the genetic stock of a race of people. Just as with any animal, the strongest and the best should lead. Would you kill your brother because he didn't possess the same aptitude as you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 02:38:51 No.1680356 Report

Quoted By: >>1680364

>>1680324
1. That's dumb logic
2. I'm not talking about death, I'm talking about suffering. Go back to 4th grade for reading comprehension class

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 02:42:17 No.1680358 Report

Quoted By: >>1680366

>>1680344
All signs point to the existing ubermensch class becoming increasingly intertwined with AI and genetic engineering. If that lady wants ubermensch to rule the world than she should expect them to hold a futurism ideology

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 02:45:19 No.1680361 Report

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>>1680344
Besides, a Utopia will probably allow people to live primitively if they want to. Alongside the TechnoDomes, there will be vast NatureDomes where you can live in a hut and hunt deer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 02:48:02 No.1680364 Report

Quoted By: >>1680381

>>1680356
>Doesn't mention suffering anywhere.
>Actually I was talking about suffering!

Also I don't think you can argue that modern society provides less suffering than a primitive life style.

At this point we've basically traded short term material abundance, for long term problems with resource depletion and pollution. And on top of this a whole host of psychological problems that are not present in primitive societies.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 02:54:17 No.1680366 Report

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>>1680358
Technological development is one of the prime factors leading to the approaching collapse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 03:14:32 No.1680381 Report

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>>1680364
>Who else here is anti-deep ecology? Nature isn't beautiful or Gaia rainbows. It only produces suffering for hundreds of millions of years via self cannibalization and should be nuked.
What's your IQ kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jan 2020 03:24:41 No.1680386 Report

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>>1679963
Aw, how did you know you were my crush? What gave it away? Is it because you know my cuckholding fetish and saw me get hard last year when DaQuaris grabbed your dick in lunch line?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2020 01:50:59 No.1680964 Report

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>>1679527
ive felt this before, i came close to some wild boars a while ago and they can be very dangerous

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2020 01:20:10 No.1681486 Report

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kys to take yourself out of the cycle of suffering nigger, bet you won't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2020 02:28:08 No.1681506 Report

Quoted By: >>1681745

>>1680104
Anon I don't know where you are on your journey but here are some recommendations.

The most influential book I ever read is Savitri Devi - The lightning and the Sun. I would recommend this above any other book but would suggest reading a few of the books below before getting to it.

Julius Evola - Revolt Against the Modern World and Ride the Tiger.

Savitri Devi - Impeachment of Man

Ted Kaczinksy - Anti-tech revolution, Industrial Society and its Future

Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf

Bhagavad Gita

Alain de Benoist - Manifesto for a European Renaissancel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2020 14:52:07 No.1681745 Report

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>>1681506
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 05:05:29 No.1682826 Report

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>>1679527
Point Break isn't real. Quit the LARP

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 05:18:31 No.1682831 Report

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>>1679507
>t. degenerate urbanite
Opinion discarded.

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