Old one's at bump limit, i'll start.
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>>1686850 I collect the lint from my dryer and bring it along. I place that under some twigs with larger wood stacked above that. The dryer lint burns strong and fast and is usually enough to catch the twigs then begin warming up the logs. Make sure everything is dry too. Look for dead, fallen, but light weight wood.
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>>1686850 Just bring lighter fluid. It makes the best tinder.
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>>1686850 you want 2-4 bunches of dry grass and a big handful of twigs about the diameter of a pencil lead, plus a pile of larger twigs up to pencil diameter next to you. to find dry material look for stuff like parts of fallen branches that are not in direct contact with the ground. then spread the smallest twigs in a 2-4 layer thick lattice on top of the grass. light the grass, and as soon as the small twigs start to burn begin slowly adding larger twigs, but make sure to not add them so quickly their weight compresses the burning grass. be ready to get your face down low to blow on the embers to boost the heat a bit until the fire really starts going on its own.
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>>1686856 >>1686861 i want to be non reliant on outside sources. If i wanted outside sources for cheap free and replenishible id use paper or napkins, those have always done me good
>>1686863 how am i supposed to readily obtain dry grass during most parts of the year? even if it hasnt rained in a little while grass most places tends to be juicy and fat
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>>1686882 regional difference, i guess. i can find dry grass year round unless it's actively raining or if everything's covered in snow.
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Just got a North Face Venture 2 jacket I'm curious about whether I actually made a good purchase. How much does it have to rain before it stops keeping me dry? And would it work as an outer in 0 to 30ish Fahrenheit with light snow?
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>>1686921 i've worn mine in extended moderate to heavy rain without wetting out. warning: it does absolutely NOTHING for heat retention, and i actually feel colder when i wear it, for some reason.
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>>1686850 Collect tinder throughout day/hike. Put in your pack to get more dry. Get a lot more tinder than you think need. It’s still isn’t an easy task for me in wetter seasons (PNW) after many years going out. Cotton balls with Vaseline are my go to fire starter but you still need a lot of small tinder to get that initial small fire going.
Also recommend starting shelter much earlier than you may think. I’m usually setting up camp and building fire no later than 1600, usually closer to 1500 after a day hiking so I can rest and eat. I’d recommend starting at least two hours before sunset, especially if you’re new. Also nice cooking and eating in day light. That way you can get to bed early and be on the trail before morning sun. Pack up camp and reach a good elevation to watch sunrise, rest, boil water.
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>>1686924 Ah, good to know. Thanks homie. It should get the job done for me then.
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>>1686882 I'm in a wet climate and what I look for is a dead stick with small branches, I make fine shavings with my knife instead of using grass. If it's really been soaking out, there's still generally dry wood at the center of wrist thick dead wood, and I will carve or split the limbs until I have dry tinder and kindling.
It helps to have a tarp or tent for this if it's actively raining, though on one miserable trip I had to do with just my body as a rain stop, until the fire was hot enough to keep the water at bay, because of gear lost in a swamed boat.
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>>1686850 Birch bark contains oils that make it burn like a torch. You can pick it up completely wet, keep it next to your body for an hour or so to get the worst of the moisture out and it will burn easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPzH_Ayy0UI Anonymous
>>1686850 >This is embarrassing, but how do I start a fire with just a lighter/match? Several methods. My go to is dry grass or leaves as well since it is the least work and available most of the time here.
other than that:
bottom twigs of needle trees: these are usually dead and dry. split them into halves or quarters and they burn well
birch bark: burns even wet
woodshavings: will be blown away in wind, but easier to make than feathersticks
feathersticks: a lot of work and need to be dry, but reliable
"kien" (not sure of the english term): this is basically wood with high resin content, usually found on dead tree stumps. cut it into strips and it'll burn well
whatever you use to start, you'll need a lot of kindling next. basically twigs as thin as possible and split at least once as the bark is harder to burn. then fingerthick branches and finalls armthick ones.
Also make sure you always throw a lot of material on at once. a single branch won't burn properly most of the time, but four or five such branches next to each other will, because they heat each other up.
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>>1686856 >I collect the lint from my dryer and bring it along. In the spring time, stick a couple of handfuls of dryer lint in the crotch of the trees in my backyard and the birds and squirrels use it to line their nests.
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How do i start with camping?
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>>1687113 >it's another anon is helpless and thinks a bunch of invisible strangers know his exact situation post how do you people make it through the rest of your lives? start walking around in the woods and sleep in a tent. it's really that easy.
as far as legality, that is going to be very region specific, so since you gave us absolutely zero helpful information, we can give you absolutely zero helpful information.
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>>1686930 thanks for the info on timing
>>1686939 thats what i was thinking of, shaved wood seemed like the best bet given all else failed.
>>1686993 no birches in my area but good to know. i know pine oil is good too for anyone else curious
>>1687007 thanks. i think kien is fatwood in english, thats what ive seen it called. ive never found leaves dry enough, but dry grass sometimes i see.
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How the fuck do I stop cooming during sleep? It's embarrassing and happens a few times a month at least. >have sex
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>>1687113 Just walk somewhere and camp, don't get caught lamo.
Where do you live?
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>>1687488 How is that embarrassing?
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are there any camping youtubers that don't set down their camera, walk 20 yards, walk back, pick it up, walk 40 yards, set it down, walk 20 yards back, and walk towards the camera again?
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>>1687282 >i think kien is fatwood in english While they are similiar, there's a difference in how they're obtained.
fatwood is cut from the trunk of the tree, which is usually illegal as you're damaging a living tree or cut logs.
kien is cut from old, long dead stumps, where you don't damage anything of value and which (at least here in germany) is legal as long as it is only for private use.
>never found leaves dry enough Look for dead hanging wood, like branches broken during a storm or young trees that died from lack of light. Those give both leaves and dry wood. In winter and autumn, you can sometimes also find them under needle trees, where the wind blows them underneath and the needles keep them dry.
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>>1687498 It helps but still happens.
>>1687502 >go /trv/ >sleep in a hostel or shared room >shit happens How isn't that embarrassing?
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>>1687507 >Watching people camp on YouTube ever Fuck this
>>1687513 Go talk to the doc
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Can someone recommend the smallest comfiest sleeping bag they can think of for a country whose weather gets to 1-2c at worst at night? I want to pack as small as possible and my bulky sleeping bag rated for -10c is really unnecessary
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>>1687519 >Go talk to the doc Why? It's not a disease and I'm not going to take pills because of that, so any advice he can give me I can hear it from 4chan instead.
I just need to stop having dreams about pussy and it will fix the problem, I'm sure other anons have experienced the same.
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>>1687523 >Would rather read shit posts on a Japanese cartoon website than receive advice from a trained professional You're the edgey teenage equivalent of an anti-vax Facebook mom. Keep cumming your jammies then.
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i always take some packs of those.
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>>1687523 Or don't lmao nobody cares.
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If you are without gloves and trying to get a live and awake squirrel outside if its inside a building for example can it bite you or hurt the squirrel if you pick it up by the tail like a rat? I know this is a ridiculous question lol.
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>>1687549 Yeah, wrap it in towel. If you get bitten you may want to go to the hospital. Animal bites can go nasty even if you don't live somewhere with rabies
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>>1687513 I just so happen to be a professor in doctorology. Its perfectly natural that the body ejaculate, the semen prodoction doesn't stop just because you stop using it. Masturbate on a regular basis to fix the issue. Or unironically get laid
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>>1686850 Make your own char cloth. It's not hard. Lots of videos on youtube.
If you have a coffee roasting company near you, go and ask if you can have some old sacks. They'll often give them away. Otherwise, you could use old jeans, dishrags or linen tablecloths from a garage sale or whatever. It must be 100% plant fibre though. Cotton, linen, jute, etc.
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>>1687573 dont even need char cloth, any old cloth has worked well for me. cant even count how many shirts ive burned when i was innawoods with friends back in highschool
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Try
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DduDWdsVmXg for regular/mild condition fires and I tried tea lights for when it's really wet because of seeing this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAKQZ8oMbAM just shelter the fire from the rain and the little candle will get it going.
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>>1687488 how do you know it's your cum? maybe someone else put it there?
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Can I use this type of crampons for alpinism?
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>>1688341 those are for walking from your front door to your car when it's icy. for /out/ i recommend checking out khatoola microspikes. they're what i use in shoulder season in the sierra.
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>>1688341 Micro spikes aren't crampons. They are for walking in icey conditions not climbing, like
>>1688391 said.
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>>1686850 Anyone have that our backpackers checklist pdf that was fucking massive, I remember their being a thread about it awhile ago.
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>professor in doctorology
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How do you deal with campfire smoke?
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>>1689076 >I hate white raddits Anonymous
Im looking for a small gps. is the Magellan explorist 200 good? What do you guys recommend.
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>>1689076 you have to slope the entrance to the shelter so the hot smoke rolls out of the shelter not in.
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>>1687522 Enlightened Equipment 20degree overquilt.
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>>1689083 inreach mini has been highly rated since it came out.
>>1687522 You'll want a nice down bag rated to around -5c to be certain you'll be comfy. As you're using c I'm guessing you're euro? Check out cumulus. Polish company that make nice down bags.
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How long does a cat food alcohol stove like this burn if i fill it about half full with denatured alcohol?
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>>1689162 Too many variables to say, but both alcohol and cat food tins are cheap, just test it out.
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>>1689162 it will probably just explode in your face, so maybe a minute.
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>>1689270 And how does the pressure even build up enough to explode when thers holes on the side
wait you know what, I think you were just kidding
you are a funny man. ;)
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First time having a tent light, the black diamond moji I think it's called, just one of those things I've never really thought I needed but damn it was nice, pic is a full brightness but I just used it at lowest light, before I would hang my headlamp up, but the light was never even and it was a pain to be the headlamp down at 03.00 when I needed to pee, this is great, just grab my headlight and go, and even ho2 tired I am I can easily see my tent light up on the dark now,
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>>1689162 Literally no way tot tell, just buy a trangia, its cheap as fuck
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Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5
>>1689319 the latch for adjusting seat height?
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>>1689336 that would be the black thing a few cm bellow.
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>>1689340 then i dont know what it is.
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>>1689343 well you were kinda right, it's part of an remote dropper seatpost.
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>>1689274 >what tent lights do others use? i have a luci light. solar powered, squishes down, diffuses light well. i don't take it on longer backpacking trips, but shorter trips when i'm less minimalist it's nice.
>is getting a pillow worth it? absolutely. i got one of the smaller (9x13?) compressible memory foam thermarest ones and NEVER backpack without it. imo it's absolutely worth the 10 oz + bulk penalty over a puffy stuffed in a bag or an inflatable pillow.
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i have a little rip on my camping bag from storing some sharp objects in there. real small hole through a side pocket but i wanna patch it up so it doesnt get bigger. its a kelty bag and seems like the fabric is some kind of plastic. would filler glue be the best thing to use?
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>>1689076 People looking for photo ops. do this. No one in their right mind makes an open fire this close to their shelter. People who do, are idiots who have been lucky they haven't started a wildfire.
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Are these magpie tracks? I'm in Southeast New Mexico.
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>>1689645 Need something in view for scale, but it's plausible. Bird tracks can be very tricky, many species have very similar tracks.
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Planning on getting chickens in the spring for eggs. Have to keep them contained because raccoons and foxes will get them. How much space do I need in the coop and in the pen for about 50 chickens? I was thinking 20'×25' for the pen, maybe 10'x20' for the coop. Is that enough?
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>>1689671 Why not ask /an/?
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>>1689671 there's an eternal thread on these types of topics:
>>1686634 Anonymous
>>1689757 >>1689774 But let's thank anon for using this thread and not starting a new one.
>>1689671 Keep up the good work and good luck with the chickens!
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>>1689757 I will, was just looking for more input. I figure people who like the outdoors might also keep some livestock. I used to have chickens, but they were free range because the predators were less of a threat.
>>1689774 I'll be sure to post there then, thanks.
>>1689775 Yeah I hate when people start threads to ask questions that can be put in existing threads. Thanks.
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Can you sleep in the back of a truck in the early negatives if you have a shitton of blankets/sleeping bags and quality cold gear?
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No degree, 26, fucking hate my cubicle job and just want to escape far from the cities and work remotely while learning to farm.
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Does anyone here play instruments when out?
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>>1689790 Sure, you wouldn't be the first. Depends on the space you have. Is this once off, or regular?
It's colder when you're not moving, but you don't actually need to overdo if it's only a few below. I assume it's a covered/topped bed? I'd have a thick wool blanket, a sleeping bag and a (foam, preference) sleep pad. Dress warmly, thick socks, merino base layers, flannel, etc. A large thermos of hot tea or whatever helps. If you have a doggo, they're heat machines too, just mind the dog farts.
I'd include a passive dehumidifier, usually moisture absorbing salts kept in a cube, because your breath will fog up the insides and freeze to the windows and dampness is worse than cold. Just don't knock it over.
Check out youtube for vanlife bros, they usually have tips for cold weather.
>>1689793 WWOOF to see if you really like it. Plenty of farmers would rather hire/apprentice a local than another beaner.
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>>1689813 by truck I mean an enclosed SUV kind of thing
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>>1689812 I bring my banjo if I'm driving in somewhere for campfire type stuff. It's far too heavy/cumbersome to bring for hikes or whatever, plus mine is a high quality banjo that wasn't cheap, I value it too much. I have a small kalimba/mbira to noodle around on when I'm alone.
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>>1689814 Can you take out or drop the back seat? Same principle. Definitely have the dehumidifier if it's an SUV.
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>>1689818 yeah, I don't even have the back seat anymore.
cheers for the tips. I didn't think of a dehumidifier. I'd probably try to hang blankets on the windows too or something.
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This might get asked a lot, but what is a decent shirt(?) to use while hiking in the summer?
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>>1689825 for hot weather i use the Snickers 37.5 shirts both at work and outdoors, i dont know what kind of magical voodoo Snickers uses for theese shirts, but i swear they are the best moisture wicking shirts, and also keeps you cooler, working outside most of summer they really help
i literally have 2 red, 2 black and 2 blue and i use them for work all the time aswell as /out/
they do preform pretty poorly when the temps get lower tho
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>>1689825 I really like merino. They soak sweat like a sponge -- and you can feel this if you sweat a lot -- but they dry quick and don't usually smell until they've been worn a dozen times (YMMV). You just have to be careful when washing them. They can take some wear'n'tear of course, but if they get a hole, that's the beginning of the end.
Otherwise, most thin synthetic 'active' t-shirts are pretty good (I have a few from Arcteryx that I got on a clearance sale) , but they start to get stinky after a few hours of use.
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What are /out/ approved hiking boots?
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>>1689838 the ones that fit you comfortably and you go /out/ in.
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>>1689853 any recommended brands? just looking for something durable and not made with slave labor (if possible)
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>>1689793 Save up a few grand. Buy a duplex. Rent out one half, live in the other. Your tenet pays your bill. You go have fun and do whatever you want. If you want to make a lot of money, thats a great first step. FHA is only 3.5% down.
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>>1689671 Chickens dont need more than a couple feet of space to move around. Just google it dude. “How many sqft do i need per chicken.” I guarantee you the first result will tell you and if doesnt post screencap and i will.
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>>1689790 Why not just go south for the winter if you’re a /nomad/? Hello?
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Going to be camping at a festival that allows cooking at the camping area, but no wood or gas fires, which is all I've ever used.
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>>1689942 Maybe a pressure cooker? Mine has a setting to saute things. Could work. Just bring a batter charger that has an outlet option. There’s some on amazon for about $90
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>>1689858 I swear by my Meindls, made in Germany, but they aren't cheap.
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>>1689869 I did. However, I'd like to hear from people who have raised chickens in enclosed pens before. Previously, I had free range chickens. But on my new property, this isn't really an option. I'm wondering if more space will increase the chickens' health as well egg productivity/quality, or if at some point it just becomes extra space that serves no purpose.
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>>1686850 A really specific question for a really specific situation.
>studying trades in Finland atm >mandatory physical education >you either go to the actual school gym OR >prove that you actively do something beneficial, like going to the gym or jogging or whatever Now the thing is, what most folks do, is that they send a million screen caps from some sports app on their smartphones when they are at the gym or whatever to the teacher, but as I absolutely despise the things, I need some way to plausibly enough track atleast a 6 kilometer walk weekly. I've got a nice comfy trail way longer than needed right next to me, so doing the mandatory PE by doing my normal out stuff is cool but I really really would not want to get a smartphone specifically for this. Any ideas? Bonus points if I could stop tracking after the mandatory 6km just out of spite cause I'm a bit rebellious like that.
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>>1690153 talk to whoever's in charge, retard. i'm sure this isn't the first time it's come up.
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>>1690175 I did. It is. I am this teachers first subject who does not wish to play tennis with 40 year old arabs but does not have a smart phone either.
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>>1690180 what solutions have you already offered him that he rejected?
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>>1690181 Look it's.. this apparently annoys you for whatever reason, and it annoys me as I already do move more than 6 kilometers per week and I'm no expert but playing tennis with 40 year old arab men won't probably hammer me out to iron shape so I'd rather /out/ as I would anyway. This isn't also too high on my priority list. Whatever you might be imagining, so far nothing's been rejected as I told him that I'll take care of it somehow as he had no suggestions other than getting a smartphone.
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>>1690153 Stop being such a turbo autist and just use your phone. Jesus Christ.
>I'm a bit rebellious like that. Oh I see. You know you're meant to be over 18 to post here right?
>>1690180 Holy shit you sound insufferable. I hope your weak attitude gets you kicked off your course.
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>>1690193 i wasn't annoyed. i was trying to fill in holes in the information you've provided so i could offer help. but now that you've explained that you've done literally zero independent thought outside
>waaah i don't wanna! and want to be spoonfed solutions like a spoiled brat i've decided that you can go fuck yourself.
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>>1690195 >>1690199 Well, thanks for the help then I guess. You seem like a humorous person who does not take things too seriously. I'm apparently getting me a smartphone then.
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>>1686850 If you live near pines, pick up a big fuck load of dry needles. Works for me.
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>>1686850 I've had success with cedar bark and dry cedar leaves, though cedar trees are sort of regional so that may not work. Pinecones are kind of underrated for fire starting too, I'm not sure why nobody ever talks about those.
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>>1690209 woah. okay, ive tried needles didnt know it had to be THAT many. thx
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Can I get some advice or suggestions, I'm looking for a set of good warm camo gear for the cold months here in Canada so good for down to -40. looking at this set from Russian reseller "VKBO BTK Winter Suit Jacket"
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Anyone /out/ there in Italy who would like going /out/ exploring nature or just comfy night urbex?
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What are some mistakes to avoid for someone who's never gone /out/ before but really wants to give it a try?
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what kind of belts are you lads using?
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>>1690703 waiting until you think you can do it perfectly or have all the perfect gear. protip: that will never happen. just go /out/ and fuck it up a few times. that's how you learn.
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>>1690703 >who's never gone /out/ before but really wants to give it a try? Give what a try? /out/ covers _a lot_ of different activities.
But one piece of general advice would be: don't get bogged down in the material side of whatever activity you want to try. So many forums are full of people waiting for the right gear before getting stuck into the activity. What this leads to is getting addicted to buying gear rather than developing a love for the activity. Always take stock of your motivations and relationship with an activity.
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>>1690709 generic leather belt i bought over a decade ago
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>>1690709 paracord is a meme in any situation
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>>1690709 Just put on some shoes and go /out/
It's not a competition so don't feel forced to walk far or in areas without trails
As others have said fixating on gear is useless as a beginner
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any of you tried one of these?
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>>1690805 really cool technology but in practical application it's a real pain to keep a twig stove fed long enough to charge anything
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>>1690820 ive really been wanting to get a twig stove because i dont want to pay for gas anymore.
are they really shit?
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i use one of these as i don't like any other hats..
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>>1690805 I've met two people with them. They both regretted buying it.
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>>1690829 twig stoves are great as a quick stove to cook on but to get the biolite to fill a battery you need it lit for hours
the one downside of a twig stove is you need to keep shoving twigs in because they burn up fast so you would have to be willing to babysit the thing all day while your phone charges
twig stoves are good it's biolite specifically that's mostly useless
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>>1690862 they broke on me every couple of weeks while i worked at fedex. and 20/pair. a bit pricy but i bet if youre not doing what i was theyll last you a good while.
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how to get tree planting job where do i apply
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>>1690988 i did ask nobody replied
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>>1690993 i would do this job
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>>1691001 now that aint an answer
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>>1690836 dildos
small vials of piss
petrified shit
granola bars
rape whistle
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>>1690836 those little plastic film containers should fit in the slots
ideas for things that could fit in film cans:
>silver blanket squished tight >water purification tabs >small ferro or mini bic >blade >quick start firetabs >bandaids >micro LED light >bug net/rain covers for the hat and your head >probably 20 or so rounds of .22lr >gallon ziplock bags to hold water or store found food >toilet paper Anonymous
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would you wear full cushion socks in summer?
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I live in Dallas. Is there any good /out/ places nearby?
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what makes something "tactical" or is it just a way to get retards to buy something for a stupid price?
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>>1691376 I always thought "tactical" was just code for "hey this looks military and your poser ass will buy it"
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>>1691097 >being that guy on the trail Anonymous
>>1691376 >overengineered in a vaguely military color with a bunch of superfluous webbing and a premium to the price Anonymous
>>1691407 >>1691382 you lads sure i don't need this tactical carabina?
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>>1691427 >plastic nah, i'm good on biners.
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>>1691432 how do you find carabiners for cheap? Ive been thinking about these plastic ones because theyre cheaper and still have a max load of like 400 lbs. I have a few steel ones but i paid like 7-8$ each.
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>>1691752 they weren't cheap. i've easily spent $200-300 on carabiners (not all i own are in that pic). they're for climbing, so i'm not going to fuck around on quality to save a few bucks.
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>>1691761 thats what i assumed. i guess ill just go back a 50 pack of those plastic ones
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Why don't hikers use frame packs anymore? I've been slowly acumulating backpacking gear from thrift stores and bought this for like $10 bucks. I'm going to put some modern straps on it, so it should be as comfortable as a modern bag right?
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>>1691893 modern hiking is just buying products from north face and amazon then going into the woods for one night on a designated patrolled trail and sleeping in a meme hammock product.
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>>1691893 that's literally my hiking pack just older
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>>1691893 there is nothing inherently wrong with an external frame. Internal frame packs can just be lighter for the same amount of cargo capacity. also consider most hikers/campers are bringing less and less gear which defeats the benefit of having external attachment from a frame.
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What can I do with a forestry degree? Is that even something worth chasing?
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>>1692300 All my other gear is thrift stores as well so, old, cheap, and heavy. Mostly military surplus. I guess I'll need the cargo capacity. Going on my first real hike next Friday. Pack plus gear and supplies is 30lbs. What dose an average pack weigh? Is this heavy? Feels ok on my back.
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>>1691893 I do a lot of mountain hikes and frames are shit if you have a heavy pack
I dont know what its called but newer packs have this feature where the waist straps move keeping your backpack balanced when doing high steps
If you use a frame the backpack will swing side to side making it more uncomfortable and harder to keep your balance
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>>1692318 what gear and supplies does that include, and how long will you be out?
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recommendations for the goatest, bestest fire starting tablets?
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>>1687507 sounds like you would prefer watching survival expert Bear Grylls™
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>>1692259 ok boomer
>>1691893 The same reason we drive cars and stopped using leeches.
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>>1692619 dumbass reddit answer kys
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>>1692416 tablets for use in esbits
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>>1687507 youtubers are more interested in "videography" than camping and sharing knowledge and tricks
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>>1692730 >reddit >reddit >reddit >reddit >reddit Oh no. Boy do I feel silly.
Not a defense of archaic gear though.
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>>1692734 and your dumbass thought a valid answer for his question was "its outdated" so you can feel smart. Just kill yourself you lil faggot.
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>>1692416 Learn to start a fire without them, idiot.
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>>1692735 >was "its outdated" so you can feel smart No. Maybe I was overly flippant but my point was more that famed packs have been surpassed by internal frame packs as they are lighter, more comfortable, and handle a load better. The reasons I can think to use an external frame pack would be big budget restraints, the need to carry very heavy akward loads, or larp value. But for the vast majority of people a modern internal frame pack will be a better choice.
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>>1692788 i agree with you so then say that instead of just bsing something cause you want to reply to the thread.
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>>1692766 dont cut yourself on that edge, kid
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Does anybody have experience with kites?
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I've seen Madsen Maskingevær posting with a Karrimor SF on this board, and recently also with a Wild Country (sister company of Terra Nova) tent which makes him perfectly suitable to answer this, but anyone else with this bag can verify;
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>>1692619 We still use leeches dumbass.
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>>1686850 I've been getting into survival, outdoors type shit and I want to try going and spending a day in nature, but i've run into a wall of sorts
Most camping spots near town are behind ridiculous paywalls and I don't even plan on spending a full night out of home just yet. And my main option of just walking out of the city edge and going into the wild. But i'm not really informed on the legality of it all.
I'm not in america so I don't have to worry about permits and such, but still i'm afraid of wandering into a company's land or some shit like that. Could I get in some serious trouble if I did something like this?
Also I don't have a car so getting really far away from the city and into the actual, deep wilderness is off the table.
plz help I'm really lost in this type of shit lmao
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>>1692314 I do not have a degree, I work with them in canada. Foresters work in all aspects of harvest planning and management. Some do office work, some (engineers) lay out cut blocks in the bush, some work in siviculture growing the seedings. The RPFs on staff seem to make about 25/hr with overtime, the typical day in engineering is 10 hours including travel time. We live in "camp" (A shared apartment in the shithole bush) with food provided for 10 day shifts. It is an out job, but the conditions can be brutal with the rain and folliage. School apparently doesn't prepare these guys at all, the average hire is said to last about 3 months. Good resume experience is a year of tree planting, if you can stand it
If you want to do engineering everybody tells you to get a degree. All these jobs take summer students with the expectation they'll hire when they have their tickets. BC forestry is seeing shortfalls in students and with the boomer dieoff there is supposedly going to be a hiring frenzy.
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Help me /out/, you're my only hope.
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>>1690700 Italianon reporting in, di dove sei?
Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5
Been looking for a size upgrades from my Weschel aurora 1, its a one man tent and good for summer but here in the rainyer months the innter tent walls tend to get pretty wet, and since i use the pretty ridiculously tall sleeping mat (exped synmat mega 12 MW) my head touoches the top of hte tent when i sit up and there is pretty much no room for gear in the apsis. great tent for distance, not so great for more gear heavy trips like fishing and just general more camp oriented type trips, it is also pretty terrible if your are "trapped" in it due to rain because i basically cant even sit up.
so, ive been looking for a 2 person tent that is on the smaller side with good apsis room, thought i found a match with the MSR Hubba Tour 2
but then i saw this Britbongs vids on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxDSzu63uec and it seems to have MAJOR waterproofing issues?
does anyone have any experiance with this tent? or a recommendation for a similar one?
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>>1693135 Um if you go to any restaurant and order anything grilled they likely grill it directly over either propane or LPG of some sort, which is, I imagine, only going to be less clean than the fuel in a butane stove.. shouldn't be any more an issue than that is..
it aint hickory smoke but it will make your bread toasty
Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5
>>1692992 Okay, if I understand you correctly what you are asking is the size of side pouches, I assume you are talking about these "rocket pouches" 1 pouch can hold approximately 12 tall beers(50cl)
the pouches are just a big hole
This video may be useful but, take his boasts with a grain of salt, it's his business after all
>https://youtu.be/aLAh77etv14 I use the sabre 60-100 so I can't say for certain if it would be a good fit for you, but Carinthia is cracking stuff, not the lightest but bombproof
Are you going to be restocking your food supplies along the way? I am assuming your are fairly experienced with hiking to do a 10 day trip, overall I would say it would work
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>>1693135 Bring with extra fuel bottles. Lots of them. Maybe 30 or so.
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>>1693182 >1 pouch can hold approximately 12 tall beers I need exactly that for exactly that purpose
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I plan on making a few bumblebee boxes/houses>pic related
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>>1692995 >We Maybe in your backwards ass country.
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>>1693182 Yeah sorry, my line of thought can get a bit confusing. You got the gist of it, I really just wanted to know if the 45 would be big enough for multi-day backpacking with and not the Bushcraft and day trips I've seen most reviewers mention. Thanks though, you basically confirmed what I thought which is that its fine if I'm not an idiot about what I pack :)
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>>1693314 should work fine, i rarely use the pouches, but if i had the 45 instead of the 60-100 i definitely would keep them on there more
i would recommend getting drybags for the side pouches, they can get wet easier then the main pack and i dont know if the 45 comes with a raincover that is large enough for the side pouches to fit, i would imagine it does as the raincover that came with the 60-100 is larger then some tarps ive seen ultralighters use!
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Anyone have experience with Snugpak? specifically the Scorpion 3 tents? considering it
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>>1693175 Yeah google says that it's perfectly safe to cook over, but does impart a flavour if you're careless. They key is to toast the food as far away from the flame as you can so minimal uncombusted gas or byproducts reach the food. Not sure how successful it'll be but since butane is generally considered food safe I guess I'll try and find out. Thanks anon
>>1693204 But anon, I've read that a single fuel cylinder should burn for about 3 hours. I don't intend to huff the stuff.
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>>1687507 Your better off finding someone irl or talking to people here, 1 or 2 youtubers actually camp outdoors off camera the rest are attention whores.
I've slept outside at 10 degrees c in a T shirt and shorts so I can tell when people are full of it.
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>>1693488 nvm, just checked and its basically the same size and weight of my Hoolie 4, too large
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>>1693488 >>1693720 Snugpak is a good brand though, so if you do find something you want/need that they make you'll be in good shape I reckon. I have a hammock tarp and an underquilt from them and they're both the bees tits. Especially the underquilt, fuck it's better than sleeping at home
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>>1687007 >kien What language are you speaking? Because I know it is a German word as well and am just curious if it is also known elsewhere
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>>1689076 Based Bushcraft, Kochen und Natur poster. What is this dude doing lately? Last time I checked (~two years ago) he was just talking about pseudoscience shit all the time. Sad, he was extremely based back in the day.
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>>1690153 Do you own any kind of camera or could borrow one? Then either record a video or time lapse kinda thing or just take a pic every km or so.
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>>1690805 Honestly, just get a cheapo flip phone that doesn't get an empty battery in like half a year if you really want to carry a connection to the busy civilization while out
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>>1693168 I own the Hubba Hubba NX so it may be different but I love it. I have never used it in extreme rain but it definitely can handle normal weather. It's my first high quality tent so I don't know if it is common in the industry but the tent is very quick to build up and it only takes about 5-10 minutes to pack it into the bag when you search for any remaining dirt cautiously
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>>1693775 What language are you speaking?
German.
>am just curious if it is also known elsewhere The polish word is also pronounced similiar, but written differently. Most likely they copied the german term, since polish is a rather young language and developed mostly while the poles were a german Grenzmark. Same with Esperanto(keno), which copied it from the poles.
In the other european countries, they have completely different terms, as is to be expected from a term that most likely came up in the stone age.
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>>1693794 I do have an old point-and-shoot, and there is a maintained trail near me, with a well known laavvu about halfway there. Three timestamped pictures, one at the start, one at the laavvu, and last one at "finish" would probably do it. Thank you, I am going to propose this.
>>1693796 This. Even with a smartphone, the weight of any charging gizmos is usually better spent just bringing a spare battery or a power bank.
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>>1693841 Both of the posts you replied to is me btw and I must say I respect you for not owning a smartphone nowadays. I really want to get away from all this modern shit trying to get my attention all the time but sometimes it's just more convenient so I somehow end up justifying owning one
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>>1693872 I'd argue it's actually way more convenient not to be carrying around that attention thief. Yes, there are times I can admit a smartphone would actually be convenient, but those are few and far between and usually there is a workaround. Give it a try, see how it goes. It's not like you're moving to a cave somewhere in the boonies, if people need to contact you, they can still you know, call you.
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>>1686850 How do you guys carry your sleeping pads? Is pic related a good setup?
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>>1694304 since it ways nothing the most important part will be having it out of the way so it doesn't catch branches and shit
I'd put it right where the logo is so it's all the way behind me and not increasing my head on profile
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>>1694304 Folded like this and inside my pack against my pack.
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Going to Zion in early June and don't know what to wear for backpacking. I'm assuming cotton kills doesn't apply quite like other places since it's so hot and dry. I figured a linen shirt or a PFG would be fine, but I have no idea what pants to wear.
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>>1694482 wear a saudi mandress.
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has anyone tried puting rocks and hot water in their mess kit and leaving it in their tent for heat? I was thinking about trying it and was wondering if anyone else has done this
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>>1695022 hot water in a bottle and then a sock over the bottle in your sleeping bag works well
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Looking into doing winter camping for first time, and I need to get a sleeping bag for the cold. Why shouldn’t I just get a cheap Coleman sleeping bag or something? Is the only advantage of pricier bags weight and longevity?
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>>1695059 A good bag from a reputable company will have more reliable ratings and It'll keep you much warmer. also if you enjoy it you may end up wanting to do it more and eventually you'll look to buy a better bag anyway so rather than buying two just buy a good one now and have it over and done with.
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>>1695059 because you want one that will keep you warm instead of just letting all your heat off into the air. maybe you should wait until spring to camp.
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>>1695059 Never skimp on your sleeping bag. You can cheap out on many things but your sleeping bag will save your life when required.
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>>1693718 >I've slept outside at 10 degrees c in a T shirt and shorts >I can tell when people are full of it. >retard know-it-all "tough guy" survives a night out drinking at a high school bonfire. Anonymous
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>>1695070 Any on a simple level the difference between a fun trip and a shit one is whether you're cozy at night. Even the most beautiful location won't make up for 10 hours of shivering in your shelter.
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>>1686850 I want a new hatchet
How big should it be for general use?
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>>1689858 Salomon Quest 4ds or gfys
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I've been thinking about getting into small game hunting recently. Unfortunately, I've found out that there is actually a designated hunting season for rabbits and squirrels in my state (Wyoming) and all the surrounding states as well, and it ends in about a month and starts in September. Is there anything small that one can hunt with a pellet gun or .22 year round without finding someone to do pest control for, or is hunting just strictly seasoned unlike fishing?
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Super interested in doing a weekend kayak/fishing trip in Okefenokee. However, despite enjoying kayaking and fishing even more than I do, SO is very opposed due to fear of alligators. I grew up in the FL panhandle, so I know alligators are of little threat, but my SO's fear persists. Would really appreciate convincing arguments and stories of visiting Okefenokee or other swamp areas
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>>1695353 Read Bartram's Travels.
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>>1695197 for a hatchet, as long as your fore arm when holding the head in you hand
for axe, as long as your entire arm to your armpit when holding the head
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>>1695269 Hunting isn't for killing animals indiscriminately. Read the regulations first, to avoid being fucked in the ass by a game warden.
https://wgfd.wyo.gov/Regulations/Game-Birds-Waterfowl/Upland-Game-Bird-and-Small-Game-Hunting-Seasons >reading is too much work There are specific seasons for game.
You need a license to hunt.
You need a firearms safety cert. or be an armed service member (active or honorable discharge).
This applies to air rifles too.
There are bag limits.
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>>1695353 Leave her at home
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>>1695465 I already know the general regulations about hunting. I'm wondering if there are any options for hunting over summer that wouldn't be listed there as I've heard hunters talk about hunting during summer in the past, or if your only hunting option over the summer is if you're doing it specifically for pest control reasons.
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>>1690205 Other anon was right, you're an insufferable fuck. Why didn't you go with the phone app to begin with, would've saved you a lot of time
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>>1690787 Care to elaborate?
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>>1692619 With a response like that, you just sound like a retard.
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>>1692788 Should've led with this, dumbfuck
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>>1693135 do you butter your bread? if so you can just fry it on olive oil in the cast iron. tastes really good
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>>1693135 Have you never made toast in a pan or on a griddle before? As a bonus, you can use it as a way to mop up leftover grease after making bacon or sausage.
>>1695269 What you're looking for is unprotected or non game species. What falls into those categories can vary by state along with whether or not you need a license, but pigeons are a common option.
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>>1695068 >>1695069 >>1695070 Thanks, I'm also moving up North so I'll probably get a lot of use from one. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't relative small difference between a cheaper and expensive one like say with backpacks.
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I have a french f1 tent and was wondering if i could tape the bottom of it with some gorilla tape so i dont have to carry around a groundsheet too? Would this be retarded?
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>>1695469 I'm the lady, which makes the situation more frustrating because he's normally more rugged, active, and adventurous than I am
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would it be worth an entire thread to make a trail horse thread or is that too niche?
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Help me pick out a nice, durable, fixed-blade knife for "do-everything" general outdoors uses; I've narrowed it down to 3:
Cold Steel Outdoorsman
>6 inch blade >.185 inch thickness >VG10 lam steel >~$150 https://www.knivesshipfree.com/cold-steel-outdoorsman-san-mai-steel/ VS
Fallkniven S1
>5 inch blade >.2 inch thickness >VG10 lam steel >~$150 https://www.knivesshipfree.com/fallkniven-s1-forest-knife-laminated-vg10-steel-satin-blade-leather-sheath/ VS
Bark River Bravo 1
>4.25 inch blade >.215 inch thickness >s35vn steel >~$250 https://www.knivesshipfree.com/bark-river-knives-bravo-1-s35vn-field-version-macasser-ebony/ Anonymous
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Are good and lightweight hiking pants from Aliexpress and other Chinesium websites a thing? I'd rather not pay the extortionate fees local stores expect me to pay for them (60-70$ per pair at the absolute minimum)
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>>1697146 Cold steel is shit. While their knives have good steel, they skimp on the workmansship. Don't buy them unless you know how to use a grinder. Source: had three of their knives myself and have seen around a dozen - they're at the level of 5€ hardware store knives.
Fällkniven and Bark river both have good reps, but I've never had knives from them so I don't know if those are justified. From the pictures, I'd say that the Fjällkniven is better as an allrounder as it has a two-step convex grind, making it more suited for rough work then the flat ground bark river.
But honestly, neither of those knives is something I'd buy. they're both rather soft, so they aren't going to stay sharp all that long (but won't break quickly either). Also, they are both rather thick, which isn't necessary with such soft steel unless you intend to use them as a prybar or really suck at batoning.
Chances are that a mora will do everything those knives can do better.
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Newbie here
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>>1697200 Think so? I've read that, while they are easy to sharpen technique-wise, that scandi grinds can be troublesome. Supposedly theyre not so good for general use, lose their edge quickly, and can take a while to resharpen taking a lot of metal off.
Figured thicker blades meant more durability
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>>1697146 Fallkniven all day, VG10 is a great steel with the heat treat and lamination they use. Bark rivers are nice but not as care-free as Fallknivens, and cold steel a shit.
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>>1697200 Despite having fairly thick spines for toughness, Fallknivens have a really nice thin taper towards the edge, which is laminated and holds an edge much better than other knives in the same steel in my experience
Pic related is my favorite. Granted its not in VG10, but I have used the S1 and normal F1 in VG10.
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Any good survival/wild camping YouTubers?
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Anyone here use Gaia GPS? Need to know if it's worth the 5 year 60 dollar subscription
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What stuff do you guys carry that's really too heavy to be justifiable, or just plain old unnecessary.
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>>1698679 I have been using gaia for years now and it's probably the best app I have ever bought. I use it to plan and map all my routes and then use it as my digital back when out. It has functioned perfectly everwhere I have been from high routes in CO to canyons in Jordan. I download my maps and they are all available in plane mode. Also when you down load the maps in high detail the app is both a gps and a digital copy of the maps as you can zoom out and examine the areas ahead.
HOWEVER, I bought the app when it was a one off purchase. I paid like ~$25 for it. I am grandfathered in and have full access to the app, bar a few map layers, and don't have to pay monthly. I hate the subscription model and while I think it's amazing app would definetly look for something that isn't sub based. Having said that $60 for 5 years isn't bad. As in 5 years time everything will have changed in terms of phones and gps.
long story short: It's an awesome gps app and a good tool for route planning. But I hate subscriptions.
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>>1698710 >mfw i've been reading your posts shilling the app on the archives going back to 2017 damn nigga
knew I'd snag you with this post
> Having said that $60 for 5 years isn't bad. exactly what I was thinking, it's basically like I own the thing since it's that long and in half a decade we'll have 7G wifi in the remotest spelunking cave giving us radiation sickness
danke anon
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>>1689274 Get the trekology pillow on amazon, its only like $15 and weighs like 4oz
p comfy imo
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>>1698721 No stress. If you hunt they have all sorts of features for hunters as well. And if you pay the sub you'll get access to the other map layers that I don't. Off the top of my head the one I can't use is the nat geo ones. They aren't the best for topo but they are really good for having paths, trails, etc on them.
The app works great for me and other people I know, but that doesn't mean it will for you! Don't bite my head off if you don't like it!
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Will park rangers get mad at me if I bring a saw and cut fallen trees that are blocking the trails. They are really falling behind on upkeep of the trails.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for full-zip waterproof pants?
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>>1699533 2nded looking for good, wind proof waterproof, durable pants that ideally do not cost $100
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recently got a Lavvu with a tenstove, a pretty big one.
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>>1699494 look at it like this, you likely have no idea what is reported or not, there might be a large backlog of work before they get to the tree you are at, they might also "save up" fallen trees so taht a clearing crew can work a full day instead of going out to individual trees, to save costs
and, if fallen trees are reported and the crew gets called in and the trees have been removed by visitors, its a waste of time and money for everyone
however, if things are nor actively reported, go nuts
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>>1699646 My uninformed ass thinks a tent should be well ventilated enough. Maybe just keep the door open a to be sure? Hate you to die in your sleep.
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>>1699662 Yea. It would be a real shame if I died painlessly in my sleep while comfy /out/ in my tent. I found recently small one, it's also a thermometer so that's kinda cute, fun to see the actual temperature in the tent. I just wanna get a concrete idea of the PPM inside the tent, and I'm willing to carry 200g for something that will wake me up if I'm gonna die
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>>1699699 >It would be a real shame if I died painlessly in my sleep while comfy /out/ in my tent. Not a bad way to go but your posting would be missed.
I think 200g is perfectly acceptable considering the vital and interesting data it will provide.
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>>1699708 aw, thanks bud, glad i couldnt find a thermometer i wanted, i only saw that it was also a thermometer when i turned it on
almost picked up one of these heat activated fans just because they are neat. that british canaboat guy has one, never seen one in person, its pretty cute
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>>1699711 We've got one at home. They make a subtlely impressive difference. Plus there's something magic about when it starts spinning with no electricity.
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>>1699715 this might be a dumb question, but, if you hold you hand in front of it, is it warm air? or just normal?
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>>1699721 So it feels normal, but imo that's because the still air around the stove feels much warmer. I know in our dining room where we have the stove the room feels drier and warmer when the fan is on. We have a fairly simple, single blade one, but a friend has a more sophisticated double blade one and it's much more effective.
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>>1699723 Do they generally have a upper limit to what temperature oven they can be used on? Compared to a home oven mine is pretty spicy with the temp of the metal
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>>1699725 I've never heard of one, our stove gets obscenely hot and has never been an issue. I'm interested now.
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>>1699725 >Operation beyond the recommended temperature of 660 Fahrenheit degrees/350 degrees Celsius could damage the fan and generate electricity. Just copied this from an Amazon description. Generating electricity sounds fun!
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>>1699725 wait wft. I was on my phone earlier which has a black and white screen. Is that the metal of your stove glowing red hot?!
Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5
>>1699729 >>1699734 hmm might take my laser thermometer next time i set it up at home to see how hot the stove itself gets
>>1699771 gotta get toasty!
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>>1699773 >gotta get toasty! lmao that's a fucking death trap!!
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>>1699775 Relax, I only had it that hot on the first burn with all ventilation including the door open because galvanized steel has some unpleasant and smelly fumes and I wasn't in the tent
Also
>hot stove bad Lol
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>>1699790 Were you just burning wood in there? Who made the stove?
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>>1698004 I think you failed to grasp the original joke about the mushroom.
I feel bad for you.
Please reflect on what you have posted, and what the original comic is about.
Perhaps note the juxtaposition of talking about the rape and crime with the mushroom.
Good luck anon.
Also, It's not good to be on the computer all the time. Be sure to go out. Even if it's for a walk. Research shows that there is measurable cognitive benefits to doing so.
polite sage.
If this was bait I rate 8/8
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>>1699646 Military guy here. In our tents we have a flap near the top we open to allow the fumes to vent out from naptha heaters/ lanterns.
Even then, some guys pass out when they stand up from the fumes.
There wasn't enough ventilation if you wake up with red/ sore eyes.
I would bring a small battery powered CO alarm if I could find one.
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>>1699793 yea, some beech and rowan, but small thumb size pieces to get the heat up fast, then for the res t of the night i would just put 1 halfway decent size log, 30cm long, turn the intake down and it would pretty much burn for 2ish hours on 1 log, not burn out, but still have some small coals to light the next log
and its Helsport, same for the tent
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>>1699842 well, not a log, a quarter of a log, sorry
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alright friends, what are some good clothes to have when camping in a environment like southern finland? it's quite wet most of the year, windy and a bit cold.
Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5
Get to campsite
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>>1700325 >YAY!!1!19!! Finally a chance for skinny dipping!!31!! Anonymous
>>1700325 find some high ground
*sees trip*
oh no
oh no no no no
AHAHAHAHAHA
>Himmelbjerget is one of the highest natural points in the Danish landscape. >With a height of 147 m Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5
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>>1700325 how do you find firewood in an wet environment island hell like denmark?
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ITT: anons that start fires with things other than globs of easily gathered pine resin.
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>>1700343 I don't have the experience but ive watched vid that said if you take the soggy bark off, the wood underneath is usually good enough to burn, if its dead and not water logged.
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>>1700368 also once you've started a fire you can put the wood close and dry it out
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>>1700331 Dansk
>>1700340 >himmelbjerget hiked up there one bitter cold autumn day, pretty boring but the tree planted in 1915 to celebrate women getting to vote was neat
>>1700343 we have a fuck ton of beech trees, beech tends to get its higher branches snapped by wind and they fall and get caught in the lower branches, thats a good source, drift wood can be a good source too if you are near beaches which is pretty often here, basically collect anything off the ground, you are right though, the firewood directly on the forest floor tends to be pretty wet, its also normally larger, so i take it and put it around my fires to dry it
other then that its the same as everywhere else i would imagine?
and also battony chop chop for feathersticks
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>>1700375 takk så veldig mykke herr danskman
t. finsk
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>>1700381 No problem fin-bro, do you have a suggestion for a good first time /out/ experiance in Finland? Preferably starting In Helsinki as I can take a ferry there?
>tfw almost took a six month internship in Turku but chickened out due to the language barrier Anonymous
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>>1700429 i'd recommend åland if you want a really beautiful environment, getabergena is a nice spot for mountainous, also kayaking or just going around with boat there in the archipelago is a joy, you can just drive to a random archipelago and set up camp there, go fishing, sleep a night, then go to another.
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how far from a stream should one piss?
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>>1700566 just piss on a tree to mark your territory
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>>1700566 like 8 meters should be fine, but further if you can
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>>1700566 you should piss in a stream
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>>1700355 Twigs, fluffy natural stuff, bark, dead trees, etc.
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May be a little late to this thread (And will probs repost to the next qtddtot if I don't get anything), but what's y'all's opinions on ponchos vs rain coats and pants?
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>>1701011 Ponchos have a time and a place and have great breathability. Wouldn't wear one any where exposed, anywhere that's prone to high wind, or anywhere that involves bushwhacking.
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>>1701013 wind and rain go hand in hand here
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>>1699533 Hey anon, I was the one who was also looking for waterproof pants. You may want to consider carhartt ripstop cargo work pants. I tried them out and it seems like they are not 100% waterproof but highly water resistant. I tested this by putting them on and putting my leg under the bath faucet. Water rolls off of them and the inside of the pant stays dry for a good while. After leaving it under running water for a minute or two the inside of the pant leg did get a little wet. So they would be good in rain but not walking through standing water. Costs about $50-$60
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>>1701011 Rain jackets are better in most cases, less extra fabric to get caught up on stuff and flap around in the wind. I see ponchos as a tarp for a primitive shelter that can also be worn if you have to.
Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5
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>>1688604 I have this one but not the pdf.
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I have the original MSR Pocket Rocket stove. I have a lot of green Coleman propane cans. I see I can get a valve adapter to make the stove burn propane. Is this safe and are their any drawbacks?
In this vid they do it with the Pocket Rocket Deluxe, but that has a pressure regulated valve. Thoughts?
https://youtu.be/_h8uEewOF50 Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5
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>>1701675 i have the orig too, no idea man
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Whats the best state to live in in the north? I live in NY and the states falling apart because of the liberal laws, taxes, downstate ruining it, etc. I would need to make new friends when I move. I don't like the heat and humidity in the south. I have been considering Maine, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin. Possibly Minnesota or Montana? Pls respond
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who else /terrible night vision/ here?
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Lads what sort of natural fiber/leather wide brim hat should i get for /out/ing?
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>>1703076 Enjoy your mildew.
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>>1689357 +1 for Luci inflatable lantern. I got the multicolored lantern so I can use it for mood lighting. My wife appreciates it, as well.
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>>1702024 >best state to live in in the north Oxymoron
>I don't like the heat and humidity in the south Thank you heat and humidity for keeping a yank out.
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>>1698703 8in Cast iron skillet because I love cooking on it.
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new to /out/ here
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>>1703125 southeast if that matters for what company sells where.
>>1703103 >>I don't like the heat and humidity in the south >Thank you heat and humidity for keeping a yank out. None of them move "south south" unless youre talking FL, which is about as south as NY anyway.
t. former FL mosquito
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What's a good small backpack to use while biking and hiking (short hikes)? I have a backpack from college that I use but it feels a little bulky on my back and the pockets and space inside aren't that great.
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>>1703078 >falling for allied propaganda plots to mask deployment of radar Anonymous
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>>1703125 Stay with milsurp for the start. it's not that expensive and reliable.
As for brands, there is not a single one I'd recommend completely. Most have some good things and lot's of meme-tier trash. For example, Sturm makes good, cheap woolpullovers, canteens and cooking vessels, but their backpacks and pants pretty much tear open from looking at them. Frost (Mora) makes good carving knives and general purpose knives, but their "bushcraft" knives are overpriced memegear. Fiskars has acceptable hatchets (old ones ones are usually better though), but their knives, shovels etc. suck badly.
About the only brands I'd advise to stay away from are cold steel (since their knives are usually not ground properly), Wenger (since their SAKs have the scales put on through cuts in the metal, where dirt and grit accumulate, making the prone to jamming) and Trangia (since they're terribly overpriced - even a simple 3€ esbit-style ethanol burner costs 15€ if you buy from them).
Just ask in the respective generals once you know what you need.
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>>1700368 >I don't have the experience but ive watched vid >listen to me Anonymous
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>>1701675 >green Coleman propane can + pocket rocket >dawbacks? They're unstable a hell. You'll end up dumping your meal and burning the woods down.
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I was thinking of buying one of these lamps, do any of you know how much fuel does it use or if it isn't worth getting?
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anyone got a link to a dutch army sleeping mat? Everywhere I look is either out of stock or overseas that have expensive shipping.
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Overall I want a foam sleeping mat but have been trying to search for milsurp ones as modern day pads tend to be either expensive or inflatable and id rather not worry about cuts and holes. Ideally I was trying to search for dutch army foam pads but its either sold out or sold overseas and has ridiculous shipping.
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>>1703824 I got the Coleman Lumiere lantern (pic related), I like it, it gives a nice ambiance. One night of use (around 6 hours) used about 10% of my 200g fuel canister. Your call if that is worth it or not.
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>>1703824 if you want something thats the most functional sorry its gonna be a hand crank LED lantern. i love the old style ones and i have them but for functionality led is the best
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>>1704098 >hand crank What kind of stupid are you?
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>>1703275 Get the CamelBak mule, or if you are on a budget high Sierra makes some good hydration packs.
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realistically how long would it take to cycle from NYC to California?
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>>1704721 Depends, if you're very fast it can be done in a few hours.
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>>1704010 search for the rollable us army surplus ones on ebay
