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Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2013 20:40:01 No.170497 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>170500 >>170592 >>170729 >>170993 >>171027

Yea yea... I know Bear Grylls gets a bad rap and people can post a laundry list of qualifications for him. But.....

Am I the only person who can't bring themselves to buy a Bear Grylls products? I instantly think of any item with BG on it as a inferior product marketed to wanna be innawoods surviving people.

I would honestly think less of someone if the pulled out a Bear Grylls product while on the trail.
I haven't seen a Bear Grylls product in the wild yet so I guess boycotts buy this stuff. No offense to the boycotts.

Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2013 20:43:37 No.170498 Report

Quoted By: >>170507

I feel the same way. The first time I saw one of them innastore I almost laughed aloud. I've been led to believe that Grylls is a hack; is he just getting a bad rap, or what?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2013 20:53:13 No.170500 Report

Quoted By: >>170724

>>170497
I honestly don't care. I own a BG knife. It was bought as a gift, (my son's favorite color is orange) and I love the knife. Used it all the time this summer so far and no complaints. I have several older Gerber blades I love also (and even Fiskar Axes) and never had an issue.....actually the only knife I have had a problem with was a Buck folding lock blade.
All the Gerber and Bear bashing is a waste of energy, but hey, people love to point fingers......
I don't care about a Logo or a name attached. I don't go out to be in a fashion show. I go out to be out.
Let the bashing of me begin.......

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2013 21:14:03 No.170507 Report

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>>170498 If you read up on the guy.. He is legit but some of the stupid shit they had him on the show just ruined his name in my opinion.

Cody Lundin really summed up how dangerous those kind of survival shows and survival instructors are. You will have to Google that to read it all.

It makes surviving a messed up situation innawoods seem fun and adventerous. Like jumping off water falls, drinking your own piss and making daring walks over lava flows. It's a totally unrealistic view of a serious situation.

I think that rubbed the inbawoods survival community the wrong way. Then to top it off all those videos came out showing how fake and over the top his scenes where. Which lead to anything Bear Grylls being viewed as a joke.

So in a nutshell a really good survivalist sold his soul to Hollywood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2013 21:25:24 No.170514 Report

Quoted By: >>170532

Mora is 1000x better for same price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2013 21:30:39 No.170517 Report

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At one time I liked the lines of the BG Parang machette so much I was eaiting for it through Botach... that's how bad I wanted the lowest price w/no tax or s/h fees. Bavk ordered dut to them BREAKING OFF AT THE TANG by the grip! Went with the Condor Parang machette.and couldn't be happier! Condor products rule! (shsmeless plug)

Still, I do have "his" fire rod and do enjoy the extra grip surface for my cold fingers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2013 21:47:38 No.170532 Report

Quoted By: >>171150

>>170514 Mora is God Tier...

Absolutely love them. Almost any Mora or Kabar BK series is top notch in my book

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 00:03:01 No.170592 Report

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>>170497
I picked up the fold-y one on the bottom right because it was like $19.99 all-in. I like it. It works and gets pretty damn sharp. I dropped it on my foot and there was lots of blood. It's certainly not for picnics or your glove compartment.

Not much else to say except that if I wanted (or needed) a knife to last a lifetime I wouldn't have been looking in the bargain bin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 03:46:55 No.170723 Report

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They're actually perfectly serviceable knives, the folder fits my hand quite well. Still cant bring myself to buy one...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 03:48:15 No.170724 Report

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I have a BG firestarted and I think it is great. It was the cheapest ferro rod with built in striker and tinder box on the market. I can store enough cotton to make 6 or 7 fires inside and it's completely waterproof.

My little bro had the parang and it seemed decent.

For the price the shit seems decent. It's just some of the dumb things he did on the show that ruined his name.

But like this guy said
>>170500

If you are having a fashion show while /out/ kill yourself please.

Most of us learned when we were kids that the best way to live is to do what you like without giving a fuck what others think. If you like BG gear. Fucking use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 03:52:15 No.170729 Report

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>>170497
it's a gerber knife, it's good

i'm the type who doesn't really like walking around with logos and advertisements all over me (addidas, etc) and this is just kinda one of those products.

like some anons have said, if i was given the knife as a gift i'd keep it, us it, and appreciate it. otherwise i probably wouldn't bother with an endorsed product and just find something simpler and less flashy from gerber et al.

also i got nothin' against gerber or bear. we benefit gluttonously from our capalist system and so do they

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 05:06:26 No.170776 Report

Quoted By: >>170811

I have the Scout folder and it's pretty nice. I have since replaced it with others for EDC, but it's still the best of what I have in terms of handle ergonomics. The handle just feels really good. While I'm not fond of the big BG on it, I like the mix of grey and orange. It's a pleasing color combo and does make it easier to see if you drop it without adding a blaze orange fob or something. For the most part the stuff is probably good, but the mark-up on it for the BG line is enough that most people probably go with other products to get more for their money.

Speaking of the BG logo, my wife checked out his new show. Apparently just about everything they wear has a huge "BG" on it and then they're talking about, "the Walmart steaks for the reward were so juicy and it was great to brush my teeth with that minty Crest toothpaste."

She said it was like watching that product-placement segment of Wayne's World.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 06:05:39 No.170811 Report

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>>170776
Fucking loved waynes world, was my first movie I owned.

> back on topic
I didn't like the show to much, to gung ho for me, especially after I found out what was going on behind the scenes.

but Gerber puts out some decent knives so I did try the BG Scout because I got it as a gift, came really sharp, grip ergo was kick ass, had a nice texture, but I prefer a heavier knife with a liner/frame lock, also it was mildly embarrassing to pull it out in public.

> would buy if it was more subtle and not a brand bastard.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 14:41:17 No.170965 Report

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I don't think it's about having a fashion show as much as it is using garbage equipment with a logo as big as the product.

A gift is a gift... but the products come across as BG fanboy items marketed to survival mall ninjas more than legitimate tools.

Gerber makes some good stuff. I carried a Gerber folder for years before I bought a Kershaw. But BG stuff is proven garbage if you are actually using it in the field.

Plus if you do some googling you will find that some well known survivalist have advised people away from using his knife. They have numerous videos of them falling apart in the field on them.

Do a Google search and you will find 100s of pictures of BG stuff that failed in the field. This stuff is billed as survival gear by a big name and it is just as phony as his TV show.

That is why people don't buy BG stuff. It's garbage....

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Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 14:41:53 No.170966 Report

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Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 14:46:46 No.170968 Report

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His stuff is a walking trade mark... It's as fake as his show was. Stay away from his stuff and buy known reliable gear instead of these reality show props

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 16:02:36 No.170993 Report

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>>170497
I'm the same op, anything with some celebrities logo on it I trust a bit less. Was given the bear grylls survival kit by mom for christmas and really appreciated it, but I'm not sure I would trust it to save my life. I scavenged the worthwhile bits and saved the rest for a rainy day around the house. When you can get really awesome quality gear for not too much (like the Mora) not sure why you would get a BG thing. Because lets be honest, most of the cost of it is the name on it

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Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 17:35:57 No.171027 Report

Quoted By: >>171040

>>170497

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 17:52:09 No.171029 Report

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I've got a couple Gerber products and they're
both cheap and flimsy. Neither I would trust in any situation where it breaking would be a bad thing. Hence I do not trust Gerber, and would not buy anything else by them, nor would I recommend them to anyone.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 18:20:34 No.171040 Report

Quoted By: >>171060

>>171027 you can break the best of knives off at the tip with enough abuse. I think the issue with BG knives if that this failure is happening with regular usage. Also the handles are snapping off as well. They are the laughing stock of the knife world.

I know equip 2 endure had a video of one snapping off in a 2 x4. They used a real knife to dig the tip of the BG knife out of that same 2x4. You can find several similar videos with a quick search

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GwareED32ew&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGwareED32ew

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 18:24:23 No.171045 Report

Quoted By: >>171057 >>171092

BG survival knife seems like a decent product compared to the les stroud survival one. I agree that all these knives with their names on it is gimmicky. They probably should cost closer to 20-30 bucks rather than 50-60 but the guys with their names on it gotta make their money.

Regarding gerber, I see lots of people shit on them but I got my Gerber Gator with Bell Carlson handle and I love it. I think MSRP was 90-120 but I got mines from Cabelas on sale for 30 bucks. Obviously it's all gone now. S30V steel is great. Sharp but I could be sharper, waiting for my sharpening stone to get here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 18:36:22 No.171057 Report

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>>171045
>They probably should cost closer to 20-30 bucks
That's what they cost actually. Only the largest one reaches about $32, others, small versions and folders, are around $20, and down to $8 for the smallest folder.

But that's still misleading. It leads people to get it just because it exists, when they could have a much better knife for barely $10 more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 18:40:17 No.171060 Report

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>>171040
i seen a fairly recent video from gerber saying they have addressed that failure issue but redesigning that part and are offering free replacements for anyone who has the older version

just because it's a BG knife doesn't mean he designed it, it's still a gerber... just a giftknife with maybe one too many compromises

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 19:34:48 No.171092 Report

Quoted By: >>171101

>>171045
Les also has a real knife
http://www.helle.no/products/knives/temagami/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 19:48:27 No.171101 Report

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>>171092 the les knife is pretty much a Mora wanna be with a fancy handle.

Probably a decent knife since it's a small full tang. Not much can go wrong unless it uses cheap steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 20:44:14 No.171150 Report

Quoted By: >>171187

>>170532
Add Ahti, Buck, and Case to that list for fixed blades. Good stuff, all of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 21:51:30 No.171187 Report

Quoted By: >>171195

>>171150 hoping to add Spyderco to my list of trusted blades. Just bought a Spyderco Ambitious to replace my Kershaw chive. Love my chive but I can't get used to the wobbly blade that's a result of the speed opener. It has to be loose to use the speed open so you end up with this weird falling apart feeling when you use it because of the blade wobble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 22:04:24 No.171195 Report

Quoted By: >>171278

>>171187
Sir that cannot be right, I own a blur and a leek, both have zero blade play

Call Kershaw, ship it in, and get it fixed.

> did have a bit of blade play with the leek at one point, each screw in the handle needs to be adjusted because over tightening them can hold the tortion bar still, also use lock tight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 23:12:39 No.171241 Report

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>locked out of house
>wife won't be home for another 10 minutes
better drink my piss

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 23:32:44 No.171262 Report

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Haven't touched one, but I don't like their design or their material choice.
And I can imagine the edge won't hold up with the mystical wondersteel gerber's using

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Aug 2013 23:48:57 No.171278 Report

Quoted By: >>171302

>>171195 good to know... I need to call them then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Aug 2013 00:12:33 No.171302 Report

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>>171278
I also own a Blur and it has zero blade play. I have owned 3 but the previous two were stolen when niggers broke into my truck. Get ahold of Cheryl. She handles warranties and is kick ass. I have sent my knives and others knives in a few times and have never had any problems. Their warranty is kickass.

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