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Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 15:53:25 No.1718526 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1718536 >>1718557 >>1718559 >>1718562 >>1718569 >>1718774 >>1718904 >>1718908 >>1719345

Why are they so fucking bad
>packs are always several liters smaller than advertised
>straps rip at the slightest strain
>shitty nylon compartments
>shitty frames
>shitty... everything
Yet they sell for more than much, MUCH, better packs. Why is this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:04:44 No.1718535 Report

Quoted By: >>1718546

i have 3 osprey packs (manta 28, exos 48 and poco plus) and literally none of those problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:06:21 No.1718536 Report

Quoted By:

>>1718526
What kinda backpacks do you use anon?
Even without those problems I'm not a fan of Osprey because their backpacks look dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:07:03 No.1718537 Report

Quoted By: >>1719219

Fags give off a chemical that shrinks them and breaks them down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:08:13 No.1718538 Report

Quoted By: >>1718557 >>1718559 >>1718562

Osprey is the only brand of backpack you should get. Those stupid ultralight backpacks are ridiculously expensive and are a GIGANTIC meme. Wow! I saved one pound over my osprey...and cost me twice more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:13:44 No.1718546 Report

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>>1718535
*but also, between me, my wife and my kids, we have 2 gregorys, 2 deuters, 3 reis, and 1 high sierra pack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:38:39 No.1718557 Report

Quoted By: >>1718562 >>1719001

>>1718526
They're volume is based on their large size pack. So the Atmos 65 in a L is 65 liters, but is less in a S/M. It also says this on the tag before you buy the product.
I've had multiple Osprey packs for years and never had a single problem that you're talking about, but the primary reason they cost what they do is their warranty. You buy one pack and it lasts you as long as the company stays in business. They'll repair or replace any issue you have.
>>1718538
I bought a dynema pack for a through hike last year. I think it saved closer to 3 pounds and was also water proof so it didn't need a pack cover. I don't think I'll be getting another one.
Might do a frameless bag in a more resilient material later, like a Jansport or maybe even a Kanken.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:39:18 No.1718559 Report

Quoted By: >>1718562 >>1718953

>>1718526
>well priced
>durable
>great customer support
>no lead times
>easy to buy
they are good packs OP.
>>1718538
>go to rei
>look for osprey packs
>they are all $150-$200+
plenty of UL packs in that price range.
>GIGANTIC meme
How so?
>saving 1lb
that's a pretty huge saving my dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:52:04 No.1718562 Report

Quoted By: >>1718564 >>1718744

>>1718526
>>1718538
>>1718557
>>1718559
Osprey is in the UL category. If you want a pack for actual hard use and to last by an American made pack that uses cordura or other known fabric. I'd avoid 1000d becouse it's way to abrasive and doesn't offer much over 500d.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 16:55:53 No.1718564 Report

Quoted By: >>1718605

>>1718562
>Osprey is in the UL category.
Their lightest packs wiegh >1lb. That's not very light anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 17:00:45 No.1718569 Report

Quoted By:

>>1718526
i've had the osprey poco AG child carrier for almost 3 years now. thing is fantastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 17:58:04 No.1718605 Report

Quoted By: >>1718687

>>1718564
I don't know about trash bag packs. Osprey packs are lighter than comparable cordura ones. They are very much in the ul category.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 20:25:34 No.1718687 Report

Quoted By: >>1718697

>>1718605
UL category is like sub 10lb base weight or something crazy like that. Majority of osprey packs will have difficulty making almost any gear load out that light.
I think they have one bag they market as UL, but no hip pockets so it's kinda hard to have your weed handy. Pretty much defeats the purpose of hiking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 20:53:00 No.1718697 Report

Quoted By: >>1718729

>>1718687
Think you're comparing day packs to load bearing frame packs. Sub 5 or 6lbs for a 60+ liter pack is in UL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 21:53:08 No.1718729 Report

Quoted By: >>1718738

>>1718697
UL isn't based on size, unless you're referring to the idea of UL "this is ultra light compared to this" and not the classification (sub 10lb base weight). Sure osprey's 60L pack may be very light compared to other 60L packs.
UL packs (intended to carry minimal weight, mine starts being uncomfortable around 35lbs) are often frameless or have minimal frames/stays to offer rigidity when not fully packed. This is the previously refered to garbage bag pack.
If you have a UL pack you are not carrying heavy loads and do not need a strong frame and can use lighter, but often less durable materials.
UL packs (by classification not idea) are often less than 2lbs and are usually 30L to 50L including outside pockets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 22:11:14 No.1718738 Report

Quoted By: >>1718751

>>1718729
Oh anon your ignorance is adorable. These companies make UL frames that literally fall apart in a year or several. They have ultra light camp chairs, hiking poles, boots, shirt, underwear, you name it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 22:17:41 No.1718744 Report

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>>1718562
they make a whole range of packs...some like the exos are pretty light, I have one of their ski packs which has lasted me almost 4 years of use for trails work, skiing and backpacking.

Also have a HMG ice pack I use for longer days I've had since 2016, still going strong with a couple patches and a new hip belt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 22:42:54 No.1718751 Report

Quoted By: >>1718770

>>1718738
Thanks for the personal comment! I think your lack of reading comprehension is adorable too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 23:07:46 No.1718770 Report

Quoted By: >>1718978

>>1718751
Just saying anon. The term ultra light hasn't meant actually light since this fad started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Mar 2020 23:10:32 No.1718774 Report

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>>1718526
osprey is a good brand but they are just like ded birb and NF to me.
I wont wear them or buy the products. I live in a national park and all the fucking chinks and yuppies have ruined those 3 brands for me.

>only old hippies wear marmot so everything I own is marmot now
but thats just me letting other people ruin things for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 03:59:47 No.1718904 Report

Quoted By:

>>1718526
Just get a Kelty or an REI backpack. Problem solved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 04:03:12 No.1718908 Report

Quoted By:

>>1718526
>Yet they sell for more than much, MUCH, better packs. Why is this.
What pack is better and cheaper?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 06:10:35 No.1718953 Report

Quoted By: >>1718978

>>1718559
1 pound is fucking nothing to fret over when you're going to shell out hundreds for some stupid meme fabric that has absolutely NO features, in fact, some of those ultralight backpacking companies are such a fucking meme, you gotta spend EXTRA to get features on the pack.

Just stick to an Osprey backpack and everything else ultralight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 06:14:12 No.1718954 Report

Quoted By: >>1718978

The type of people who buy those meme 2 ounce UL backpacks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oxpObyS4DE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 08:01:20 No.1718978 Report

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>>1718953
My 3 season base weight is 5.5-7 lbs. In that context 1lb is a fair portion of my bw.
>No features
That's sort of the point anon. The idea is that you know exactly what you want from a pack so can save weight by having a pack that doesn't have features you won't use. For example my pack has no frame, no hipbelt, no sternum strap, etc because I don't need them.
>Spend extra
This is one of the big appeals of some cottage companies. They will do custom work. You can get exactly the pack you want/need. But making one offs is time consuming and tricky hence the extra cost.
I like osprey packs and think they serve an important role in the market but they are overkill for me. For three season stuff I don't need 40L, a ton of straps, ect. So why would I carry a pack that is big, bulky, and heavy.
>>1718770
I mean it has. It's the big brands who jumped on it as a marketing term and tried to muscle in on the market who have diluted the term. It used to be the reserve of small, nerdy gear makers who were creating custom, niche gear out of strange materials for weirdos.
>>1718954
Obvious satire is obvious satire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 09:12:43 No.1719001 Report

Quoted By:

>>1718557
>manlet problems

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 18:04:28 No.1719219 Report

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>>1718537

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 21:57:47 No.1719345 Report

Quoted By:

>>1718526
>bought the cheapest day pack possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Mar 2020 23:13:40 No.1719412 Report

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Have an osprey hydration pack laying around somewhere, worst thing I've ever used.

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