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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:36:33 No.1740002 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1740005 >>1740013 >>1740262 >>1740266 >>1740377 >>1740486 >>1745643

Old thread got bumped.

Just wanted to get an opinion on what the best water filtration/purifying method is for my situation. Looking to take something with me for short hikes (3-5 day) and 7-14 day canoe trips. Was thinking about the Katadyn BeFree Microfilter with Hydrapak 1.0L

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5057-943/BeFree-Microfilter-with-Hydrapak-1-0L

or a water pump filtration system like this

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5001-239/MiniWorks-EX-Water-Filter

but is it worth the bulk? Other than that I was just going to go with the tablets/drops. Any recommendations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:39:41 No.1740005 Report

Quoted By: >>1740014

>>1740002
I use the befree but I got the 4L bladder
extra storage space is nice and you don't have to fill it all the way if you don't need it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:44:11 No.1740009 Report

Quoted By: >>1740018

depends on what needs to be cleaned out of the water. in the high sierra i just use 2 drops of bleach per liter. lower down i filter. gravity filters are the easiest. unfortunately i spent over a hundred bucks on a katadyn camp gravity filter and it's given me nothing but trouble-the fucking filters stop working when they get wet, which is a bit of a fundamental problem with a water filter, so i suggest avoiding them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:45:24 No.1740013 Report

Quoted By: >>1740018 >>1740022

>>1740002
sawyer squeeze does everything the katadyn does, but you can clean it with by backflushing with a smartwater bottle nozzle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:45:38 No.1740014 Report

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>>1740005
No issues with the bladder getting pierced? I like the idea of it not being a solid object that'll be bulky in a pack but durability would be my concern with this product

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:53:57 No.1740018 Report

Quoted By: >>1740023

>>1740009
giardia is the first thing that comes to mind, but just general debris mostly. for canoe trips i'm not too worried as I'd be filling up on the interior of the lake where its the clearest. but on hiking trips I dunno where the water sources are going to be so something that can do a pretty good general filtering is ideal

>>1740013
Sawyer seems pretty good, if the filter actually lasts as long as they say it does on the website I might go with that instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:57:14 No.1740022 Report

Quoted By: >>1740028

>>1740013
Same poster as above, was just reading up on sawyer. a lot of complaints about the filtering rate, is it really that slow?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:57:39 No.1740023 Report

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>>1740018
>if the filter actually lasts as long as they say it does on the website I might go with that instead
if you get the cleaning adapter you can backflush it easily and it'll last a very long time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KeLHMUfEtY

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:01:26 No.1740028 Report

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>>1740022
mini is slow, squeeze isn't too bad. 2l/min, iirc. and if it starts to get slow you backwash it to clean it and speed it back up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 03:23:05 No.1740262 Report

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>>1740002
OP, if you value your time, get a gravity filter. Best investment you will make. Please don't get a squeeze system. Pump systems have their place, especially with lakes where you can't get out far enough with the gravity bag to avoid getting sand or silt inside, but I switched my pump for a gravity system after only one year. You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 03:32:12 No.1740266 Report

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>>1740002
>Other than that I was just going to go with the tablets/drops. Any recommendations?
If you choose iodine, it will work with dirtier water than chlorine will and can also be used as first aid. Nothing is more convenient than chlorine tabs though, if the water is nice you can just dunk your water bottle, toss a tablet in and keep walking. Neither will kill bacterial cysts.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 04:55:05 No.1740301 Report

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I'm thinking wolf? They seemed to be interested in moose tracks. Pretty old though

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Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 06:40:53 No.1740333 Report

Quoted By: >>1741005

I'm looking for a hiking backpack that has a main compartment with a height of at least 30 inches or higher so I can hike with a firearm stowed in it. Does anyone know of a good pack that is this large? Price doesn't really matter but naturally it's better to spend the least amount of money possible.

>pls no bully

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Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 08:08:06 No.1740377 Report

Quoted By: >>1741015 >>1741303

>>1740002
Best U.S/Canadian state for /out/? I want to move there, I like Alaska but it is meant to be expensive and there isn't a lot of jobs. If I was moving to Canada it would be Yukon (although financial situation would be better as i'm Australian and our dollar is closer to theirs) but i'd be in the same job situation. Do you guys think it's worth toughing out to live in a much less populated area? Or should i try somewhere like West Virginia or Montana or something?

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Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 12:25:26 No.1740486 Report

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>>1740002
I started using aqua tabs last year and haven't looked back. Tiny little pills you drop in your water. Wait 30 mins and you're good to go. Feeling paranoid? Leave it longer. I used to use a mechanical filter like but must say I prefer chems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 17:55:37 No.1740737 Report

Quoted By: >>1741629

Do you lose muscle mass if you stop hiking?
I seem to be loosing weight with this lockdown thing, 3kg so far, in a month and half of doing absolutely nothing but laying on the couch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 23:17:31 No.1741005 Report

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>>1740333
I've unironically held this exact luty gun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2020 23:27:07 No.1741015 Report

Quoted By: >>1741053 >>1741303

>>1740377
Depends on how much you like snow and freezing temperatures

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 00:03:00 No.1741053 Report

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>>1741015
I love snow but i'm not very climatised to freezing temps. But i'm easily willing to tough it out, doesn't bother me

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 04:11:44 No.1741197 Report

Quoted By: >>1741229 >>1741265 >>1741629 >>1741881

https://www.rei.com/product/168432/rei-co-op-backpacking-bundle

How is this? I have zero gear so far. Also I’m still a fat fuck but I really want to go backpacking. I’m 265ish at 5’11 and while I’ve dropped 60-70lbs I still have a ways to go. I just want to get outside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 05:06:23 No.1741229 Report

Quoted By: >>1741235

>>1741197
decent starter gear, but you'll probably be pretty tight in that sleeping bag until you drop another 40+ lbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 05:13:30 No.1741235 Report

Quoted By: >>1741239

>>1741229
Shit I didn’t think of that, thanks anon. I’m a big dude still but not 100% day like I used to be, I’ve been busting my ass at the gym 5 days a week to get some muscle on these bones. My stomach is still big but my arms and legs are fine. Think that’ll still be a problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 05:27:27 No.1741239 Report

Quoted By: >>1741495

>>1741235
rei has a great return policy, so if it doesn't work you can get your money back easily, though since you'd be buying it as part of a package you'll probably have to return everything. if you can wait 'til the stores open again they have a ton of display bags you can crawl inside to see how they fit.

and note i'm NOT saying to wait to lose more weight to go /out/. just be prepared for gear to fit a little differently as you change shape. notably backpack hip belts might be an issue. if you get a good backpack while you're still losing weight look for one that has an exchangeable hip belt in case you go down a size. i have a gregory baltoro that i was able to get a smaller factory belt for because i'm tallish, but lean, and the torso length:hip belt ratio wasn't right for me.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 05:52:53 No.1741251 Report

Quoted By: >>1741629

britbong here, have literally never done actual camping. I want to learn to camp in "remote" areas so I can chill with a little tent and tiny fire for a few days. Currently doing light research, but can someone give me the quick rundown? A checklist of things I should know and think about?
p.s I have a tight budget

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 06:19:43 No.1741265 Report

Quoted By: >>1741881

>>1741197
before buying from rei you should check craigslist, Idk about you but live in the pnw so everybody camps here and theres always people trying to sell their old stuff.
Just in the past few days I got a nice sleeping bag for $20 and an rei nitelite tent for $20. Im sure i could find a sleeping pad too for no more than 20. thatd be he same setup youre about to get at a fraction of the cost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 07:55:36 No.1741303 Report

Quoted By: >>1741340

>>1740377
>>1741015
>Yukon
>coming from Australia
Winter freezes last 7-10 months out of the year. Alaska has more jobs than the Yukon but you'll still be freezing your balls off for 5-10 months out of the year by Australian standards. Imagine -12C to -30C as the normal January lows in most of Yukon and AK with highs still well below 0C for both Anchorage and Whitehorse which are mild for the state/province. There are 9 US states and 10/13 Canadian provinces with a population density lower than 10 ppl/sq km all of which are pretty great for /out/ but not so much for jobs. It comes down to your own preference/priorities. If you like the cold, don't like lots of people, like going /out/, and have desirable transferable skills those places are great. Also Alaska is full btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 10:40:35 No.1741340 Report

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>>1741303
Thank you for the advice. I have done plenty of research on Alaska’s weather hence why I don’t really have a desire to live in Fairbanks haha. Looking more into Palmer and surrounds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 16:28:37 No.1741495 Report

Quoted By: >>1741543

>>1741239
Yeah I can wait. Good advice on the hips. My love handles are taking their sweet time to fuck off. Should I go for a backpack without hip straps to start?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 17:09:52 No.1741523 Report

Quoted By: >>1741755

Where do you holster your knife when you're camping? I've seen people have it on the outside of their bag, but I have no idea how to do this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 17:42:25 No.1741543 Report

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>>1741495
not for a starter backpacking pack. day packs are fine without them, and serious ulers can do without them, but otherwise they're crucial for carrying a multiday load.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 17:43:21 No.1741545 Report

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Shoes to wear with my waders? I left my trashed sneakers at my winter home. The cobble out here's slippery and the water's real cold. Thinking closed toed hiking sandals maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 20:05:57 No.1741629 Report

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>>1740737
>in a month and half of doing absolutely nothing but laying on the couch.
Yes. You need to keep exercising dummy. You don't just get to keep muscle forever without any work.
>>1741197
REI has awesome customer support so it's worth buying from them if you are new as their return policy rocks.
>>1741251
Start here. Read it through and come back if you have more questions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 20:16:50 No.1741640 Report

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What are the best budget PLBs and GPSs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:31:45 No.1741695 Report

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What is the best DIY waterproofing for your gear? I'm experimenting with a wax combination made up of paraffin, beeswax, and micro crystalline wax. Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:58:26 No.1741708 Report

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What is the difference between an SRK and a bushcraft knife?

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 23:05:28 No.1741755 Report

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>>1741523
You can get a dangler sheath, and adjust where on the belt it sits so that its not in the way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 23:11:24 No.1741764 Report

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I know this is a stretch but I need recommendations for a cheap inflatable pillow, a good flashlight, a good portable charger, a good raincoat, a good pot, and a 30 degree sleeping bag. Cheap items are preferable

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 02:00:31 No.1741881 Report

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>>1741197
Not bad better you're better off with:
>Kelty Salida 2 ($100)
>Any used 20-30F down bag (~$100) or if you just want a cheapo starter bag, Kelty Tuck 35 ($70)
>Thermarest Z-lite ($30)

also this anon is right >>1741265, since going /out/ is a fad, there's lots of yuppies who buy their gear, try it once, realise they don't like spiders, and then sell it for half off on craigslist or ebay.

That's how you should look for your backpack as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 02:41:40 No.1741911 Report

Quoted By: >>1743948

how many faggot jannies are on this board?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 18:22:08 No.1742359 Report

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Are Grays and Torreys Peak good to hike for a beginner from pancake land? Any suggestions for other colorado mountains?

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:46:50 No.1743097 Report

Quoted By: >>1743150 >>1743171

Best 1L+ water bottle for short hikes?
Nalgene? Klean Kanteen? Smart Water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:27:09 No.1743115 Report

Quoted By: >>1743948 >>1744362

I'm updating my earthquake kit with a stove and cookware ready to go. What are the most calorie dense dry foods? Planning on some oatmeal, pasta, pinto beans, spam, and brown rice to stash and forget.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 10:56:27 No.1743150 Report

Quoted By: >>1743171

>>1743097
if you can't pick a water bottle for a short hike without someone holding your hand you probably can't get the lid off one on your own, either, so just stick to the sippy cup your caretaker gives you and quit pooping in your hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:43:14 No.1743171 Report

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>>1743097
>Best 1L water bottle.
Doh. >>1743150 this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 14:49:42 No.1743272 Report

Quoted By: >>1743295 >>1743319 >>1743948

Out-centric book recommendations? Something along the lines of the Hatchet series, Give your heart to the Hawks, The River by Peter Heller, Alaska's Wolf Man ect Books where the outdoors and the experience of nature in a more grounded manner is the focus. Supernatural stuff at a minimum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 15:22:41 No.1743295 Report

Quoted By: >>1743303

>>1743272
>Give your heart to the Hawks
>Alaska's Wolf Man
If you read these at my suggestion, I'm glad you enjoyed them, anon.
I am away from my library across the continent right now, but these come to mind
Vardis Fisher's "Mountain Man" is the source novel for 'Jeremiah Johnson'
AB Guthrie's 'The Big Sky' series is Pulitzer-winning fiction about the settlement of Montana
Hemingway's Nick Adams short stories for some comfy 1900s UP MI tales
'Three Against the Wilderness' is a wonderful account of starting a family on a British Columbian trapline and restoring the environment
Jim Rearden (Wolf Man biographer)'s other works are excellent
'Last of the Brown Bear Men' biography of Kodiak Island's most famous bear guides
'Green Mountain Farm' account of author Elliot Merrick starting a farm in Deppression-era Vermont
and finally, a bit esoteric but a hidden regional gem: 'Forty-Four Years of the Life of a Hunter: being reminiscences of Meshach Browning, a Maryland hunter' details the settlement of the Allegany Mountains in the early 1800s through the eyes of a very prolific market hunter recounting his most thrilling hunts'

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 15:31:36 No.1743303 Report

Quoted By: >>1743308

>>1743295
This is fantastic anon, I really appreciate it. I did in fact learn of those two books from this board, If i could re pay you in some tangible way I would.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 15:36:00 No.1743308 Report

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>>1743303
Awesome!
I'm just paying it forward; good friends gave me all of those books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 15:48:54 No.1743319 Report

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>>1743272
Also Kephart's 'Our Southern Highlanders' and, this may be a stretch, 'Jack Hinson's One Man War' true account of a man of the land's burning vengeance against an industrial war machine, I found it details mid 1800s tobacco production/ farm life in the begining surprisingly well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 17:14:41 No.1743389 Report

Quoted By: >>1743948

for all the gearfags here,

I have a bag I want to attach badges too. I was going to just sew/glue them on, but noticed many came with velcro backs. Which got me thinking, can I just get a big velcro surface to attach multiple? How would you attach this surface to your 1000D Ballistic Nylon bag, and where can I find this? Amazon wasn't too helpful (or perhaps my search criteria).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 20:20:54 No.1743570 Report

Quoted By: >>1743732 >>1743766

How do I become not a pussy and sleep next to the fire, instead of in the tent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 00:25:07 No.1743732 Report

Quoted By: >>1744829

>>1743570
build a wall with snow on the opposite side of the fire to reflect heat into your tent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 01:14:23 No.1743766 Report

Quoted By: >>1744829

>>1743570
just sack up. not really any other answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 03:26:00 No.1743848 Report

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Manned firetower cabs are locked in the off-season, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 06:47:03 No.1743948 Report

Quoted By:

>>1741911
Some, considering that a thread about pipesmoking is up even though it has nothing to do with /out/ other than "haha i smoke on my porch so it belongs on /out/ :^)"
>>1743115
Consider: will you have enough clean water to cook the oatmeal, pasta, soak the beans, and cook the rice? If it's a crate add some soups or canned tuna/fish, if it's a backpack I have no idea your setup.
>>1743272
Jack London maybe?
>>1743389
You could sew or glue (maybe a combination of both) a large velcro surface to your bag, yeah. Just search for velcro bagging I guess?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 09:48:26 No.1743996 Report

Quoted By: >>1744081 >>1745594

Accidentally cut open my first sleeping bag, what do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 12:38:12 No.1744081 Report

Quoted By: >>1744710

>>1743996
buy a second sleeping bag. and quit playing with your knives like a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 18:05:47 No.1744362 Report

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>>1743115
>earthquake
I'd recommend having two different stages of food preps; a large storage for staying in your home that includes easy to prepare meals and a method of cooking them that doesn't require utilities being active. Your in-home kit should be on an outside wall for easier recovery. You should also have a smaller kit for bailing out, kept right next to your front door, with enough camping gear to stay in your yard, and a fire axe and sledge hammer to get to your other preps if you can, but both of these can be left behind if you have to hike out anywhere. Your smaller kit should have a couple days' worth of food that doesn't require cooking, like MREs or canned food, and a weeks' worth of food that's lighter, but can be prepared relatively easily.
>Planning on some oatmeal, pasta, pinto beans, spam, and brown rice
I'd switch the brown rice for white (longer shelf stability), pintos for split peas and lentils (much shorter cook time) and add some sort of nut butter and oil (higher cal/g).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 19:24:25 No.1744425 Report

Quoted By: >>1744739

I am thinking of buying a scout for hunting and backcountry backpacking. Any recommendations?

someone on /k/ recommended the Ruger Gunsite Scout

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 21:31:50 No.1744562 Report

Quoted By: >>1744574

How come horses have such thin lower leg yet are so powerful and can carry so much weight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 21:46:45 No.1744574 Report

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>>1744562
because their "lower legs" are actually their feet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 00:48:49 No.1744710 Report

Quoted By: >>1744723 >>1744919

>>1744081
I'm going to buy a new one, but I still wanna use this one as a spare to give to a friend, can't I just duct tape this up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 01:09:39 No.1744723 Report

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>>1744710
you could try. since you'd throw it away otherwise anyways, what's the risk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 01:11:29 No.1744725 Report

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Thinking about getting a Mora Kansbol for some backyard bushcrafting practice. Is it worth the extra 20 bucks over a Companion HD?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 01:31:08 No.1744739 Report

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>>1744425
Savage Scout is about three hundred bucks cheaper and they take standard AICS mags now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 04:03:47 No.1744829 Report

Quoted By: >>1744836 >>1744919

>>1743732
Im in az, and its hard to catch snow with my work schedule.

>>1743766
Fucking mountain lions spook the fuck outta me though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 04:35:53 No.1744836 Report

Quoted By: >>1745111

>>1744829
look up how many mountain lion attacks there are, then realize you're way more likely to die in a car crash on the way to the trailhead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 07:36:32 No.1744919 Report

Quoted By: >>1745111

>>1744710
Why would you duct tape it instead of sewing it together, are you going for hobo tier?
>>1744829
Get a gun, you do live in AZ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 14:32:52 No.1745111 Report

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>>1744836
You're probably absolutely right.
>>1744919
Have many, but they're all high end target pistols. Im going to buy a glock 19 soon, so I bet with that next to me ill feel a lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 19:44:35 No.1745383 Report

Quoted By: >>1746368

I'm pretty novice- the times I've gone /out/ have been using the gear of others or humping a jansport. Someone help me find a good pack?

>PNW, so waterproof
>long day hikes and sometimes overnight camping
>durable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 23:21:07 No.1745594 Report

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>>1743996
Patch it and sew the repair patch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 00:22:05 No.1745643 Report

Quoted By: >>1745647

>>1740002
Id pls. North east usa

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Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 00:23:10 No.1745647 Report

Quoted By: >>1745679

>>1745643
I'm a duking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 00:45:03 No.1745679 Report

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>>1745647
Prob Northern Cobweb Spider

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Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 15:24:31 No.1746207 Report

Quoted By: >>1746396

Just bought the BD Distance tent at a 20% discount.

My objective is to have a lightweight shelter for longer distance solo hikes in colder weather.

I read a shitton of reviews - condensation and heat seems like it can be an issue, but usually can be managed with careful camp site selection and pitching.

How badly did I fuck up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 18:00:37 No.1746368 Report

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>>1745383
Just use waterproof liner

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 18:31:57 No.1746396 Report

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>>1746207
Well I'm sure the tent is fine, but boy did you fuck up that pitch. You're going to have to work on that if you want it to protect you from any real weather. Time to get practicing. That thing needs to be tight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Apr 2020 10:04:36 No.1747088 Report

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What are some really good quality trousers and boots for landscaping/general outdoors, gardening work in summer? For the trousers I would prefer pockets with zippers so the dust doesnt get inside, waterproof if possible too.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Apr 2020 12:29:05 No.1747140 Report

Quoted By: >>1747261

Good job on your weight loss anon.
I’ll make this short
>doing car camping to practice basic out skills
>have some tools but only heavy Walmart chink tent and foam bedroll
>currently fine for spring/summer in North Carolina
>want to work towards overnight backpacking
>do I pick a backpack (55-65 liters) and then choose my shelter and such to fit?
> or do I pick what I think is best in all other gear, then choose a pack to accommodate said gear?
>pls no bully
Have a pic of some of my garden

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Apr 2020 15:34:29 No.1747261 Report

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>>1747140
buy other gear first then a pack to fit it.

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