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Anonymous Fri 09 Aug 2013 04:11:53 No.175410 View View Reply Original Report

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Hello, /out/.

I'd like to ask you some questions about long-term isolated living deep innawoods. I have a good sense of basic survival aspects, but there are some things I have yet to grasp.

Is hunting and gathering a viable means of living outside of a tribe? How does one preserve meat in areas that aren't extremely cold? How good is smoke at repelling bugs? Are there any natural means of skin protection from the sun? Would it be better to build a permanent shelter or carry a smaller, deploy-able one on my back?

Lastly: If I walk deep in to a wilderness area with a pack on my back and a strong will in my head, how long can I stay before I absolutely must leave?

Picture semi-related. Uncontacted tribe in Brazil, circa 2009

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Aug 2013 04:18:28 No.175418 Report

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hunting and gathering is very viable, be sure to learn of edible plants and herbs etc before you go
to store meat its best to jerky or smoke it(i just set up a jerky rack and put a fire a few feet below it and just let it smoke for a while
the smoke also deters bugs from landing on your food so its best to smoke it if you're outdoors(or at least have a fire going)
coconut protects from the sun, so do various other plants(i just let the burn come then cover it with aloe or plantain)
for a shelter i set up a wooden shelter between 2 trees, cover with moss/leaves/clay/etc to keep rain out
you can stay forever if you're prepared properly
being that i know most of the edible plants in my area and im proficient in hunting i could probably survive with just a multitool if i had to(could probably get by with a sharp rock if i was desperate)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Aug 2013 04:24:34 No.175423 Report

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>>175410
Kinda.
Smoke/dry/cure it.
It's great, as long as you stay in it. The smell will help mask your odor afterwards, as well.
Long sleeve shirt.
Situation dependent.
Ever read Into the Wild?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Aug 2013 09:55:50 No.176174 Report

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>>175410
>Uncontacted tribe
>tribe

That's a key word here.

People who live in the wild do so as a tribe. Alone, you can't do much. You have to spend your entire time focusing on survival, which is really tiring in the long time. Your mind eventually needs to rest, and for that, you need a tribe to support you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Aug 2013 10:01:37 No.176176 Report

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>>176174

Is that absolute? There is no way to be totally isolated from others?

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Anonymous Sat 10 Aug 2013 10:33:59 No.176180 Report

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>>176176
In complete isolation, no.

Even people living off the grid often have large stocks of everything and still depend quite heavily on sweet products manufactured by the rest of humanity, regardless of their long life: solar panels, light bulbs, steel cutlery, clothing...

What do you do when those things die out? Are you going to manufacture your own candles when you have no power and no light bulbs? Forge your own knives when they're all used up or carve them out of wood or stone? Stitch your own shirts?
Quickly, tending to all of your actual needs turns into quite a lot of work. Now most people living "off the grid" just eventually go back to town to get a few things because they have a large stash of money somewhere they can buy stuff with. The rest of their world is their tribe after all. So much for "off the grid".

Few people really are off the grid in this world, even in some remote areas where I've been, they still depend quite a lot on goods from the rest of the world, even if those goods travel very slowly and sometimes take up to two years to cross a hundred kilometers, and even then it's just a bunch of lin clothing and two rakes.

There are very few people still living completely off the grid, and they all live as a tribe, there can't be another way. That is, if you want to survive longer than a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Aug 2013 10:45:39 No.176181 Report

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>>175410
>Is hunting and gathering a viable means of living outside of a tribe?
Depending on your location it would be best to combine hunting and gathering with some forms of agriculture. Not many sources of food are permanent and may not be available at some times.
You need to have multiple sources of nourishment for proper long term survival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Aug 2013 14:59:42 No.176272 Report

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>>176176
They are various reports of people living alone in the wild for prolonged periods of time, amongst them runaway slaves, war refuges, stranded or marooned sailors and holdouts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Aug 2013 16:33:16 No.176314 Report

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Not an expert by any means...

But I can't imagine why you'd bring a "deployable shelter". At least in places with deciduous trees and plenty of debris, it's possible to build a one-man debris hut in 1.5 hours. If I were you, I'd make one lavish main shelter, and build those tiny, disposable debris huts on extended hunting trips.

As one anon said, there's plants that are natural sunscreen...but mud is simpler and probably also works better. You need mud for camouflage anyways when you're hunting, which will pretty much be all the time.

Godspeed, OP. You're an inspiration to us all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2013 01:26:40 No.176644 Report

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All of those TV presenters pretending to be surviving in isolation are really only surviving long enough to be rescued. Most of them deliberately seek to leave isolation in order to encounter a rescue and are supported by a crew ready to provide emergency aide if the need arrises. Even Les, the most self reliant of the crowd, is usually in pretty bad shape by the end of his week in isolation when he's recovered at some prearranged point.

So it seems just a little bit ludicrous to assume the people who watch their shows can suddenly survive better than they who came far better prepared and supported.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2013 02:26:46 No.176672 Report

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http://history1900s.about.com/od/worldwarii/a/soldiersurr.htm

It CAN be done. Dont expect your sanity to hold out that well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2013 05:06:39 No.176764 Report

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>>175410
Look into trapping if you want to live out there, it takes about 2-3 weeks for your smell to wash off the traps then you could start getting meat and furs from them. Almost all native people in my area needed to trap to survive.

Also, if you want to live innawoods dont take a permanent tent, bring a small one as a backup but build a circular lean-to with the fire in the center.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2013 05:43:12 No.176767 Report

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Keep in mind that if you are isolated then any injury is exponentially worse. If you get slightly sick you are going to have problems, but if you get moderately sick, break any bone or get in any other trouble like that YOU WILL DIE.
Being isolated, any help is far, far away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2013 07:49:55 No.176795 Report

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>>176644
Les also has to expend a ton of energy filming/ lugging around camera gear.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2013 09:53:48 No.176817 Report

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>>176644
And Les has the camera to keep him sane. He talks TO it because he knows it will be viewed. Your mind will work some hoo doo and you will feel a lot better when you talk to trees and dead rabbits.

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