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Medkit Essentials?

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 14:56:45 No.1972526 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1972539 >>1972614 >>1972667 >>1972763 >>1973099 >>1973413 >>1974040 >>1974108 >>1976194 >>1976230 >>1976814 >>1977887 >>1978419 >>1979624 >>1980354 >>1980413

If you were building your own medkit from scratch, what would you add? What are some additional essentials for innawoods?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 15:07:45 No.1972527 Report

Quoted By: >>1972533

Common medicine like pain killer, diarrhea, allergy, penicillin if you can get.
Things to take care of blisters.
Something to stop a bleeding and clean a wound.
Things to stabilise a twisted ankle or broken bone the best you can so you can get back to civilisation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 15:26:08 No.1972533 Report

Quoted By: >>1972537 >>1972539 >>1972593

>>1972527
If we're talking about wound sterilization, would it be better to have something like antiseptic solution, hand sanitizer, rubbing alcohol, or drinking alcohol?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 15:45:55 No.1972537 Report

Quoted By: >>1972546 >>1972551 >>1972594 >>1977652

>>1972533
Alcohol burns skin, antiseptic. Also unironically, superglue. Instant stitches for small cuts, just make sure its clean

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 15:56:29 No.1972539 Report

Quoted By: >>1972564 >>1972594 >>1972770 >>1977794

>>1972526
Keep it light. Keep is simple. So ignore any larp shit.
The most important part is going to be the booboo part. Carry some triple antibiotic, multple sizes of bandaids, tweezers, moleskin or preferred blister care, and maybe aspirin. I add sting kills and some poison ivy treatment.
See the NAR bleed kit for rest. Eithee buy that or base yours off it. That's all you need.

Survival shit like water tablets and pretty much any pill is larp shit.
>>1972533
Carrying a bottle of that would be bulky and heavy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:08:03 No.1972546 Report

Quoted By: >>1972551 >>1972594 >>1977652

>>1972537
>superglue
only works for superficial cuts on relatively immobile patch of skin
also it's toxic. useful at fixing tools tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:12:44 No.1972550 Report

Quoted By: >>1972594 >>1972612 >>1972931

The fuck you need a medkit? Are you 88 years old or larping a FPS game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:13:56 No.1972551 Report

Quoted By: >>1972567 >>1972568

>>1972537
>>1972546
If you have the luxury to plan ahead there's no point in super glue these days. 3m steri strips work as good as stitches and I'd argue better than stitches in an emergency since they can be kept sterile and the application in dirty environments doesn't matter. It's still relatively hygienic.
They're also lighter, the size of band aids, and won't leak ruining everything.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:37:00 No.1972564 Report

Quoted By: >>1972572 >>1972594 >>1972640

>>1972539
Adding to this great list, is one suggestion-
That stretchy, self adhering wrap bandage commonly used at veterinary offices.

It's cheap when you buy at a farm supply, and holds much better than an Ace or adhesive tape, plus is breathable and easier to remove.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:38:20 No.1972566 Report

Quoted By: >>1972594

Always carry some Benadryl or another antihistamine, allergic reactions are no joke. Mole skin is super handy, especially when you’re with newer hikers who didn’t listen to you and wore shitty socks with new boots. I only buy the waterproof knuckle adhesive bandages because I find them the most useful, never had to dress a big wound innawoods but I carry nonstick pads, gauze, and waterproof tape just in case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:38:27 No.1972567 Report

Quoted By: >>1972572

>>1972551
I thought those were a meme desu bit im the idiot that uses duct tape and spit to deal with cuts and ive never had an issue

Also my captcha thought a house was a hill

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:40:49 No.1972568 Report

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>>1972551
>3m steri strips
interesting thnx

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:48:17 No.1972572 Report

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>>1972567
The non name brand ones are garbage. The 3m ones work very well. Their adhesive is surprisingly tolerant to sweat and dirt.
>>1972564
These bandages are good. I prefer carrying some medical tape and guaze so it gets too bulky to also carry those self adhering compression. 3m used to make a mil version that was compressed and really compact. They may still make it.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:21:31 No.1972588 Report

Quoted By: >>1972597 >>1978301 >>1980504

- band aids of various sizes and purposes
- gauze pads and gauze rolls
- medical tape and duct tape
- antiseptic wipes and spray
- burn gel
- vaseline or polysporin
- 2 elastor wraps
- paracord or surgical tubing
- sewing kit, safety pins, scissors
- large bandana or 2
- rubber gloves
- pain killer, aspirin, allergy medication, salt tabs
- space blanket or 2
- flashlight

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:25:59 No.1972593 Report

Quoted By: >>1972605 >>1980510

>>1972533
don't put alcohol in wounds, if you need to irrigate just use clean water or dilute some PI

some triple antibiotic ointment is good though

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:26:34 No.1972594 Report

Quoted By: >>1972601 >>1972605 >>1980650

>>1972537
The syntax is a little weird there. Is Alcohol bad, so use antiseptic, or is alcohol good because it burns the skin and is antiseptic?

>>1972539
What about a small mickey of vodka? Dual purpose.
Nevertheless, great additions. The blister care in general was something I overlooked.
As someone who has been rarely stung or hit with poison ivy, how 'bad' can it be? Isn't that something you can easily tough out for a week or less?

>>1972546
Might through superglue into the go-bag, but not the medkit.

>>1972550
>pic related

>>1972564 >>1972566
Added!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:30:11 No.1972597 Report

Quoted By: >>1972625

>>1972588
Fantastic list. The vasaline, paracord, space blanket, and flashlight all slipped my mind.
One question: why the large bandana? Is that to use as triangular bandages? Would it be necessary to have face masks at all in the kit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:33:30 No.1972601 Report

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>>1972594
>As someone who has been rarely stung or hit with poison ivy, how 'bad' can it be?
I travel with people that have no first aid supplies at all. My kit is pretty heavy with things I'd ommit if it were for myself. Poison Ivy wipes are very nice to have though if just to stop the spread. I carry burn gel and anti itch too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:37:23 No.1972605 Report

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>>1972594
Yeah pretty bad, I meant alcohol is bad, or at least not good like this >>1972593 anon says

Poison ivy, nettles and bee stings i find are memes, some people may have more of a reaction I guess but I've had people freak out because I walked through ivy and I never understood why

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:41:26 No.1972612 Report

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>>1972550
Things can wrong fast when /out/. You wouldnt know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:42:44 No.1972614 Report

Quoted By: >>1973308 >>1978434

>>1972526
Iraqi bandage, splint tape, water tablets, sanitizer, burn dressing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:53:39 No.1972625 Report

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>>1972597
>why the large bandana?
Yes, for slings for a broken arm mostly, also splints, compresses, rough filters, etc. Face masks are a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 18:13:24 No.1972640 Report

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>>1972564
The white horse wrap also makes good rifle snow camo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 18:19:31 No.1972644 Report

Quoted By: >>1972658 >>1972669 >>1972730 >>1978440 >>1979454 >>1980515

Army medic here fwiw

>For cleaning wounds, you want to use saline and then (after) disinfect it with Neosporin. This should stop infection while protecting your tissue. Neosporin/bacitracin is great stuff. I also bring a few packaged alcohol pads to sterilize small wounds quickly.
>Painkillers: a small pack of ibuprofen and a small pack of acetaminophen. They can be taken simultaneously, if necessary, if you really hurt yourself out there. If you need to hobble back on a fucked ankle, you'll be glad you brought both.
>Bandages: gauze and medical tape alone can cover everything. Take band-aids if you want, but I rarely use them. Heavy bleeds in the woods are very rare, so israeli (pressure) bandages/tourniquets/quickclot or whatever are generally a waste of space.
>Other meds: antidiarrheal, antiemetic, benadryl. Personal choice - cold/flu medicine that also stops a runny nose (look for runny nose suppression on the advertised uses, most do not have it)
>Splint only if you know how to use it. If you fracture your shit innawoods, you should be calling for help. Sticks work well as splints. Secure with duct tape or elastic wrap. The only time I've personally had to use a splint innawoods was as a makeshift cervical collar (he made it out)
>Moleskin for blister control. Duct tape works too, but not as well. Apply these BEFORE blisters form.

To comment on the super glue debate, do not put store-bought glue in a wound. They make special medical glue for this purpose. I don't remember if that stuff is prescription only or not. I've never used the steri-strips but they seem like a good product.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 18:40:50 No.1972658 Report

Quoted By: >>1972669

>>1972644
IMO every idiot who brings a hatchet, or broad heads into the woods, or is in bear territory, should bring a tourniquet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 18:54:24 No.1972667 Report

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>>1972526
issa larp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 18:55:28 No.1972669 Report

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>>1972658
Not a medic like >>1972644 anon here but I have two tourniquets in my pack bc of this. Also when not camping my ifak goes to the shooting range with me. Its just a safe option but I agree it can be bulky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 20:20:58 No.1972730 Report

Quoted By: >>1972732 >>1973497

>>1972644
Great! Thanks for the high quality post.
Why the runny nose suppression?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 20:22:20 No.1972732 Report

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>>1972730
Sniffles scare deer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 20:59:42 No.1972763 Report

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>>1972526
Moleskin is garbage by itself. The adhesive isn’t very strong and the outer layer isn’t slippery enough. Duct tape and luekotape suck because they offer no padding.

It takes a combination of them to treat blisters. I would use moleskin by itself for treatment or prevention unless I’m not hiking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 21:08:15 No.1972770 Report

Quoted By: >>1972818

>>1972539
>pretty much any pill is larp shit.
Anti-diarrheal
Anti-inflammatory
Antihistamine
Seasonal allergy/headache

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 22:08:20 No.1972818 Report

Quoted By: >>1972831 >>1972832

>>1972770
If any of that is such a common problem you should focus on fixing your health.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 22:23:03 No.1972831 Report

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>>1972818
Anti-inflammatory pills are used for mild sprains and muscle trains, both common hiking injuries. Peptobismal chewable tablets treat the most common ailments associated with RWI. Antihistamines reduce swelling from bee stings and work as a sleep aid.

Necromancer

Necromancer Fri 01 Jan 2021 22:23:18 No.1972832 Report

Quoted By: >>1972837 >>1980647

>>1972818
Medkits aren't for common problems. Nobody needs saline and 3M strips on every trip. It's ALWAYS just-in-case.

I thought about the anti-diarrheal pills. If your lifestraw isn't working properly or you don't properly boil your water and you end up with Cholera, anti-diarrheal pills might be the difference between staying hydrated enough to get out alive or to die of dehydration. They don't cure diseases, they just clog you up temporarily (and, if anything, extend the time of sickness) but that can be time you use to get help.

Antihistamines can also save your life (not all severe allergic reactions present so badly that you need adrenaline), and also be a huge comforter if you have allergies that aren't life threatening. You can't fix allergies, other than by avoiding the allergen.. But that's like saying "just don't break your leg"; it's not helpful to fixing the problem if you get stuck in that situation.

Anti-inflammatories are just another QOL thing, or might help you push to get out of a bad situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 22:26:21 No.1972837 Report

Quoted By: >>1972887

>>1972832
The TLDR of that is survival larp trash. A bit of diarrhea for a day or few isn't a big deal.

Necromancer

Necromancer Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:04:36 No.1972887 Report

Quoted By: >>1972908

>>1972837
haha nice you called something LARPing. you're one of the cool kids now, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:24:35 No.1972908 Report

Quoted By: >>1972911 >>1973391

>>1972887
I'm not that one literally creating a survival fantasy to justify gear and supplies.

Necromancer

Necromancer Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:29:38 No.1972911 Report

Quoted By: >>1972920

>>1972908
>reasonable medication choices to help with
relatively common ailments is creating a survival fantasy

okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:40:03 No.1972920 Report

Quoted By: >>1973393 >>1973515 >>1973837 >>1980923

>>1972911
>relatively common
Again if those symptoms are common there's a pre existing problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:55:03 No.1972931 Report

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>>1972550
Car camping has been easy to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 03:48:41 No.1973099 Report

Quoted By: >>1973221 >>1973727

>>1972526
>womans maxipads and two ace bandages (pressure bandage to stop bleeding)
>medical tape
>Rolls of gauze (not the squares)
>micro thin film dressing
>trauma scissors and surgical scissors
> forcepts
>50cc syringe for irrigation
>a few oz of betadine(dilute to 1% w/ clean water to pack wounds w/ gauze)
>Benzoin tincture (put it on skin where you want tape to stick)
>gloves
>scalpel blades and handle
>padded splint and non-stretch wrap

don't try to stitch a wound in the field. You will just insure infection. Pack open with 1% betadine soaked gauze and change dressing as needed untill evac

t. woofer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 07:50:40 No.1973221 Report

Quoted By: >>1973561

>>1973099
some survival manual recommend just leaving the wound open

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 11:30:37 No.1973308 Report

Quoted By: >>1978303

>>1972614
is that like italian dressing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 14:19:25 No.1973391 Report

Quoted By: >>1973744

>>1972908
No, but you are saying that a first aid kit has to be life saving, otherwise it’s not needed. “It’s no big deal to have to shit every 30 minutes.” I go to the woods to enjoy myself, and I enjoy myself a lot less when I’m constantly shitting. Why are you there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 14:20:27 No.1973393 Report

Quoted By: >>1973744

>>1972920
>RWI and sprained joints are pre-existing issues

Ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 14:50:40 No.1973413 Report

Quoted By:

>>1972526
Tourniquet, chest seal, bandage, Everclear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 17:01:04 No.1973497 Report

Quoted By:

>>1972730
Because a runny nose is a pain in the ass and can ruin my /out/ing. That's a personal thing.

Necromancer

Necromancer Sat 02 Jan 2021 17:23:30 No.1973515 Report

Quoted By: >>1973744

>>1972920
you don't understand what "relatively" means, do you anon? It's okay, you can tell me, I can keep a secret

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 18:21:32 No.1973561 Report

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>>1973221
you can do that if you nothing to pack the wound with. It's better to have some povidine/betadine 1% solution soaked gauze packed into the wound to keep anything from getting in it while you are trying to get the injured person out of the field

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 22:54:34 No.1973727 Report

Quoted By: >>1973766 >>1973895 >>1977863

>>1973099
agree with most of this
the maxipads are kind of a waste of space if you're also bringing kerlix gauze anyways. cravats are always useful too, can act as a tourniquet, sling/swathe, and can stabilize a field expedient splint.

maybe some drugs to add to this
>NSAID of some sort for pain
>loperamide for diarrhea
>iodine for emergency water (obvi, if you have a filter, ignore)
>Benadryl for allergies (epi, if you can get your hands on it would be dope)
>topical hydrocortisone
I personally add some antibiotics, prednisone, anti-emetics, dexamethasone, and acetazolamide; but obvi not everyone can get these

source: paramedic, fp-c, WFR, advanced wilderness and expedition provider, former army sf medic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 23:32:51 No.1973740 Report

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I recently got my snugpak jungle which is great and I highly recommend it. I went innawoods with my rifle and gear for a 2 day ruck. if you live somewhere with a mild winter like the south such as arkansas where it doesn't get below 15f often I highly recommend it. Pair it with an army surplus poncho liner and wear whatever clothes you have on and it's maximum comfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 23:45:42 No.1973744 Report

Quoted By: >>1973825

>>1973391
>>1973393
>>1973515
You should leave your IBS and chicken leg ankles at the suburbs. Or just don't go out. That works too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 00:34:23 No.1973761 Report

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Fish mox

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 00:48:05 No.1973766 Report

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>>1973727
you can use beadine for water purification too desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 01:55:27 No.1973825 Report

Quoted By: >>1973830

>>1973744
Leap harder with your splits and suture kits that never get used. Anyone saying they’ve never pulled a muscle or sprained an ankle hasn’t done much hiking. Anyone who doesn’t know what RWI is has never been to the doctor because of “giardia.”

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 02:01:26 No.1973830 Report

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>>1973825
I grew up on a farm. My immune system can handle most any water except for serious illnesses. Terrible you can't go for a few hours with out a full cabinet of pill bottles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 02:07:58 No.1973837 Report

Quoted By: >>1973841

>>1972920
What the fuck are you even talking about? Have you never been hiking before, or is at all new to you since the lockdowns started?

Sprains are one of the most common hiking injuries. Hyponatremia causes diarrhea, as does literally every parasite found in water (hence homeboy mentioning recreational water illness, the catch-all for such parasites). That’s more of a long hike thing though, but you wouldn’t know about that. Here’s a link anyway (56% of AT hikers reported diarrhea): https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(02)01494-8/fulltext

Again, you wouldn’t know anything about this. Your knowledge is based on shit you read online and YouTube videos instead of experience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 02:14:29 No.1973841 Report

Quoted By: >>1973862

>>1973837
You're suggesting a pill will cure a sprain? Or are you being retarded on purpose?
If you can't or don't know how to drink water safely then that's not my problem. I'm used to having to treat water or find a safe source. You can't live that way taking pills constantly.
I think the problem is your ignorance of my lifestyle. Obviously since it's foreign to you to drink water and not get sink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 02:38:45 No.1973862 Report

Quoted By: >>1974003

>>1973841
800mg of ibuprofen is what any doctors office on the planet will give you for a sprain.
>I always treat my water
Good for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 03:29:51 No.1973895 Report

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>>1973727
>maxi pads are a waste of space

dude, they have adhesive thats made to stick to fabric incorporated into their design. they are made to absorb blood. a pad and ace bandage applying direct pressure will stop bleeding just like a tourniquet. Plus if any of you fucking virgins ever convince a woman to go /out/ with you, she will greatly appreciate them when and if her period starts unexpectedly. They are a IFAK necessity in my book

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 05:46:44 No.1974003 Report

Quoted By: >>1977737

>>1973862
shit man I just had an emergency tooth extraction and all they gave me was 800mg ibuprofen. works well enough for that, I'll believe it'd help a sprain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 06:41:25 No.1974040 Report

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>>1972526
Superglue. That’s it. Nothing else is needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 08:55:25 No.1974108 Report

Quoted By: >>1976199 >>1976211 >>1977787

>>1972526
i'm a faller for a logging contractor here in the UK (yes we do have logging)
I keep a medical kit on my belt in case I or someone else badly cuts himself with a chainsaw. I put it together myself since the ones you buy from a shop (even the online first aid sites are shit) don't meet the mark imo. it contains
>ACT tourniquet
>celox granules
>relevant ppe (latex gloves, resus guard etc)
>clothing scissors
>several small bandages for packing the wound
>zinc oxide tape
I also keep a bigger first aid kit in my truck with lots of other stuff in it. I only put it together because the ones we get given are shit and time is of the essence with major bleeding so if I keep it on my belt then hopefully a dire situation can be avoided

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 11:12:31 No.1974144 Report

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Which threads are filled with worse information from uninformed larpers: knife threads, gun threads, or first aid threads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 01:38:49 No.1976194 Report

Quoted By:

>>1972526
bottle of stroh 80 rum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 01:42:57 No.1976199 Report

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>>1974108
>badly cuts himself with a chainsaw.
in that case combat gauze would be usefull

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 02:02:29 No.1976211 Report

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>>1974108
>ACT tourniquet
I'd upgrade to one approved by CoTCCC if possible. good on you for having a belt kit though, saws can make a mess
https://books.allogy.com/web/tenant/8/books/f94aad5b-78f3-42be-b3de-8e8d63343866/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 02:30:28 No.1976230 Report

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>>1972526
If you're not humping a Finnochitto Chest Retractor, you're wrong. Med fags, amiright?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 22:52:52 No.1976814 Report

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>>1972526
KY and a pack of smokes

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 08:26:13 No.1977652 Report

Quoted By: >>1977780

>>1972546
>only works for superficial cuts

>>1972537

Fuck yes on the super glue.

I had a folding saw go a little more than halfway through my left index finger at the second knuckle. Rinsed it with water, applied a tourniquet at the wrist and superglued it shut & splinted it and removed the tourniquet. It's healed and is fully functional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 14:00:10 No.1977737 Report

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Only one (1) person mentioned leukotape. This place really is filled with larpers.

Leukotape is a rigid strapping tape with high tensile strength and a super powerful, waterproof adhesive. It is the top blister prevention, miles ahead of duct tape and moleskin. It can be used to treat sprains and partial dislocations (subluxation?) the same was as athletic tape. I think that’s it’s intended purpose.

>>1974003
It’s also an anti-inflammatory. It’s so common for hikers it has the cringey ass nickname “vitamin I.”

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 14:24:25 No.1977747 Report

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i use a baby methkit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 16:03:35 No.1977780 Report

Quoted By: >>1977851

hello, fellow larpers. I just made a medkit, total weight 4.6 lbs including case and all the glass containers. dunno if this stuff has been mentioned yet:
>Parafilm lab film (nonadhesive wax film, sticks to itself, dissolves in alcohol)
>all implements are pure stainless steel to make sterilizing easy
>finger condoms for situations like >>1977652
>Lassar's paste for skin (zinc oxide and salicylic acid)
>Tiger Balm (camphor and menthol)
>Fels-Naptha bar (poison ivy/oak and sumac)
>baby powder and baking soda
I'm also considering a small vial of turmeric essential oil or filling gelcaps with starch and common lab antibios like ampicillin and doxycycline. usually dosage is ~ 25 ug/mL so a couple mg of antibio powder would make several 10-day supplies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 16:18:26 No.1977787 Report

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>>1974108
Hello, I'm also a forester in the UK. Might I recommend first field dressings (FFD)? Basically a large cotton pad soaked in celox with a pair of self adhesive straps. If you get gored you can seal the wound with the FFD instead of celox+gauze+bandage. They cost about £5 and come in two sizes: large and even larger. Will absorb about a pint of blood instantly so using a FFD properly gives you are very quick visual notification if a tourniquet is needed too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 16:35:41 No.1977794 Report

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>>1972539
>Carrying a bottle of that would be bulky and heavy.
some liquids are so useful they're worth carrying. I'm putting pint nalgenes of everclear, olive oil, and castille soap in my bag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 17:55:46 No.1977847 Report

Quoted By:

Zinc tape and vodka

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 17:57:04 No.1977851 Report

Quoted By: >>1977856

>>1977780
I like the baking soda as eating all this dry and processed food makes my stomach feel really acidic after out for a while. Anyone else have this happen to them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 18:11:22 No.1977856 Report

Quoted By: >>1977864

>>1977851
sometimes, though I don't eat processed food. GORP, waxed cheese, and fermented meat is nice but mostly acidic.

baking soda is nice stuff. also a mouthwash, scrubber, exfoliant, stain lifter, foot bath, canker sores, food container deodorizer, etc.

I just removed the Naptha-Fels and the mushroom tinctures because castille soap exists and the tinctures were more more marketing purposes. total bag weight dropped ~ 1 lb.

I may add a couple 60mL syringes full of sterile saline, as I already decided against carrying salt, and need some non-alcohol to clean wounds.

it seems like most common medicines can be accomplished with a small variety of common chemicals:
>sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)
>(acetyl) salicylic acid (aspirin and lassar's)
>zinc oxide (sunscreen and lassar's)
>pharms: anti-hist, anti-shit, anti-inflame
>asorbic acid (vitamin C)
>some luxuries like propylene glycol eye drops, camphor/menthol paste

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 18:20:25 No.1977863 Report

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>>1973727
>topical hydrocortisone
why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 18:24:54 No.1977864 Report

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>>1977856
>decided against carrying salt
that is, loose table salt in a jar. salt/electrolyte tablets would be worth strongly considering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2021 19:03:49 No.1977887 Report

Quoted By: >>1978402

>>1972526
Anyone have a link to this bag?
Also where to start on learning first aid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 05:21:03 No.1978301 Report

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>>1972588
Top tier list. Could include a knife, suture kit and a professional grade medical stapler for wounds. Medical staples are great as an alternative to stitching smaller but more inconveniently located wounds. Anti-diarrhetics would be useful for disentary too and bayer aspirin is highly recommended for those suffering strokes I believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 05:23:28 No.1978303 Report

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>>1973308
Yup. It's for italian burns. Like when a Mafioso roasts you verbally before blowing you away physically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:23:37 No.1978402 Report

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>>1977887
The community colleges have basic first aid courses pretty cheap. Dunno if that's still possible with the coof scare.

There's always the Universty of Jewtoob
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=first+aid+course+online+free

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:43:50 No.1978419 Report

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>>1972526
>Band-aids
>Drinking alcohol
>Cotton
>Lighter
>Electrocardiograph
>Defibrillator
>Flex tape
>Tweezers (69)
>Blood bags (10)
>Scalpel
>Splint (made out of sticks)
>Dimercaptopropane sulfonate
>Epinephrine
>Dihidrogen monoxide
>Cyanide pills
>Morphine
>Zinc supplements
>Viagra
>Whey
>Nylon thread
>4chan threads
>Sewing needle
>Hairdresser's scissors
>100 grit sandpaper
>Razor
>Communist propganda
>Silver bullets (420)
>Honey
>Hand soap
>Glicerine (lube)
>Sulphuric acid
>Acid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:54:35 No.1978434 Report

Quoted By: >>1978495

>>1972614
It’s an Israeli bandage bruv. As for splinting shit, if you can afford the bulk, SAM splints are fucking amazing. It’s basically foam coated and pliable sheet metal you can use to form to any extremities and keep it stabilized. Wrap that shit in some coban and you’re good to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:01:09 No.1978440 Report

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>>1972644
>army medic here
>heavy bleeds are very rare
>Tx’s are a waste of space
Do not listen to this man. It’ll be worth the couple square inches of space when your trail gives way and you snap your femur in half at the bottom of a gorge. Rare as a wilderness bleed may be, it will kill you if you do not stop it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:26:52 No.1978495 Report

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>>1978434
>The bandage was nicknamed "Israeli bandage" by American soldiers
so the correct term would be "NATO Bandage" because we don't listen to ZOG killbots and their hand-rubbing overlords

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 17:24:29 No.1979454 Report

Quoted By: >>1980298 >>1980299 >>1980527

>>1972644
My brother is a registered nurse and he told me that for wounds alcohol is not 100% useful, since it denaturalizes when in contact with blood (so its useful to clean the side of the wound but not to disinfect the wound itself), then you can use hydrogen peroxide which prevents new bacteria from spawning or whatever the correct term is but does not kill the bacteria already present there (the bubbling is also useful to clean the wound from sand and dust) and then there is betadine which is the actual antiseptic which actually kills the bacteria. how accurate is this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 17:28:45 No.1979459 Report

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i bring benadryl and duct tape

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 19:50:19 No.1979624 Report

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>>1972526
Opinions on the NAR outpak? Bought one as a present for my gf this Christmas. She got me a leatherman

https://www.narescue.com/out-pak-kit-coy.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 07:36:26 No.1980298 Report

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>>1979454
you are asking the larper who recommended securing a splint with elastic wrap?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 07:37:30 No.1980299 Report

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>>1979454
>>1980298
nvm

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 10:31:20 No.1980354 Report

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>>1972526
A couple things I didn't see when scrolling the thread:
Tweezers, because splinters and ingrown hairs suck.
Nail clippers, nail file, and clear nail polish to keep your nails fabulous innawoods.
Squeeze bottle with some pumice soap (gojo/fast orange) for getting crud off.
A dozen of each pill for common ailments can be shoved into a pill organizer (you don't need entire bottles of naproxen) and it will keep you covered if you suddenly start shitting and puking constantly.
It's hard to recommend a tourniquet without also recommending that you learn how to actually use it properly. Any medical kit should be packed according to the trip length and how long it would take for help to arrive, or for you to get yourself to somewhere with help. Leave the defibrillator at home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 13:40:32 No.1980413 Report

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>>1972526
>ASTHMA INHALER
Asthmatics are always forgetting or just not taking an inhaler because "I haven't had a problem for ages bro".
Next thing they're lying in a heap wheezing and turning blue.
I don't have asthma, but I carry an inhaler in my PFD and my backpack first aid kit.
People fall into cold water, breathe a heap of pollen or smoke, or just get stressed out and next thing they can't breeve.
Ask your doc for a prescription next time you see them, they're free or close to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 16:03:20 No.1980504 Report

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>>1972588
You missed a thermometer, bleedstop, pens, a watch for time keeping and instruction.
Otherwise good list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 16:06:13 No.1980510 Report

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>>1972593
Infection is worse then anything else.
Kill infection even if you need to remove the limb.

So dumping alcohol in a wound is better then any amount of infection.
Anyone who doesn't kill infection with beserker rage is unfit to treat wounds.

There is nothing worse then infection, nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 16:11:56 No.1980515 Report

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>>1972644
To hell with protecting tissue.
Kill infection, kill any possibility of infection and kill the very idea of infection.

Destroy all the tissue you want just make sure there is no possibility of infection.

Medics are about tape and evac, there job is to leave infection to others, better qualified to deal with it.

In the field you kill infection or you die in 3 days.
Understand you will be dead in 3 days or less if you don't kill infection.
So make sure its dead. By any means possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 16:24:32 No.1980527 Report

Quoted By: >>1980722

>>1979454
Alcohol is fine if its all you got, you just need to use a lot of it.
hydrogen peroxide is under attack for some reason in the medical industry as is alcohol.

Hydrogen peroxide will kill bacteria.

Betadine is also a bacteria and mold killer so its useful it stains, sticks and forms a coating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 19:30:23 No.1980647 Report

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>>1972832
A medikit should be for common problems, otherwise you're lugging around trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 19:32:59 No.1980650 Report

Quoted By: >>1980722

>>1972594
Vodka is too weak. Medical alcohol is isopropyl alcohol, not ethyl alcohol, and is around 70% ABV not 40% ABV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:37:50 No.1980722 Report

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>>1980650
protip: isopropanol and ethanol are equally suitable, but ethanol is obviously more expensive because it gets you shitfaced. the disinfectant ability of all alcohol is inversely proportional to its evaporation time, which is why 70% is used and not 91%. vodka is fine if it's all you have.

>>1980527
H2O2 kind of sucks, bro. it breaks down into water in minutes, and a sealed bottle, once opened, needs replacement after a few months. might as well use a bit of alcohol followed by a saline rinse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jan 2021 00:18:25 No.1980923 Report

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>>1972920
I’m really tall and commonly hit my head on low hanging branches while hiking in the dark, how should I fix the problem; or is it just easier for me to bring along a handful of tylenol?
>inb4 cutting my legs off or sudoku

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jan 2021 18:34:27 No.1981568 Report

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>>1980923

get a good headlamp, or wear some form of helmet (people will call you a LARPer for this)

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