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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 13:31:37 No.1999789 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1999819 >>2001393 >>2004481

ITT we talk about self sufficiency and other agricultural related things.
This is political, the west has been plagued by gluttony and greed, we need to return to MONKE!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 13:50:52 No.1999790 Report

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Solar + Batteries = win
also looking at flywheel stuff for when have excess power and out of battery capacity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 14:22:21 No.1999810 Report

Quoted By: >>2004112

>>1996192

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 14:42:43 No.1999819 Report

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>>1999789
I would not plant fennel near literally anything else. Awful root exudates, needs to be in its own pot or bed. Better yet just grow anise hyssop

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Anonymous Wed 03 Feb 2021 02:11:30 No.2001393 Report

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>>1999789
I've been collecting these for awhile now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Feb 2021 02:35:03 No.2001413 Report

Quoted By: >>2002348

Self suficiency is a larp and a pipedream for lazy fools.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Feb 2021 02:38:04 No.2002348 Report

Quoted By: >>2004105 >>2004484

>>2001413
Bill Gates (The biggest farmland owner in America) is a lazy fool?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 01:15:47 No.2004105 Report

Quoted By: >>2004231

>>2002348
Bill gates is yes. Literally globohobo henchman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 01:20:35 No.2004112 Report

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>>1999810
No we need two of the same thread

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Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 03:58:03 No.2004231 Report

Quoted By: >>2004301

>>2004105
Well, then being a lazy fool must be very profitable!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 05:30:40 No.2004290 Report

Quoted By: >>2004402

you can't do it alone
you need a family, friends, and/or community
good if you have skilled or knowledge to specialize
one does calorie staples, one nutrient focused foods, one does animals (meat, eggs, milk, fat, etc), one does feed for animals (for winter and storage), one does build materials (for example wood, bamboo, thatch, etc), and so on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 06:00:24 No.2004301 Report

Quoted By: >>2004302 >>2004402

>>2004231
Don’t most store bought fruits/veggies have infertile seeds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 06:01:24 No.2004302 Report

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>>2004301
Organic and heirloom are the only viable ones

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Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 10:15:45 No.2004402 Report

Quoted By: >>2007054 >>2007598 >>2007933

>>2004301
If it's from another country it must be sterile under penalty of law

>>2004290
More is better but our ancestors have done hunting/gathering/farming for hundreds of thousands of years. Better to be 80% self sufficient than totally reliable on a fragile and short lived system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 11:28:44 No.2004424 Report

Quoted By: >>2006915

Self suficiency is an unobtainable dream for losers who can't even get a gf, brush their teeth or clean their room

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 13:02:17 No.2004481 Report

Quoted By: >>2006915

>>1999789
take this to /hgm/you stupid newfaggot tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 13:04:30 No.2004484 Report

Quoted By: >>2004521 >>2006915

>>2002348
remember this chart didnot take into consideration crop failores and animal proplems,i would buy a little extra land if you need it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 13:27:40 No.2004521 Report

Quoted By: >>2006915

>>2004484
None of these retards will ever own land they only collect infographics and dream of running away from themselves

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 00:46:31 No.2006915 Report

Quoted By: >>2006929

>>2004424
How's that divorce going for you, bro? I hope Mr. Shekelstein didn't take too much for alimony...

>>2004481
OP didn't check the catalogue

>>2004484
Always have a backup plan, even a large acreage farm could fail so learn canning/drying for those bountiful years

>>2004521
Are people saying this so THEY can get the best remaining land? If so, very weak FUD - at least my effort posting increases their chances of success

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 00:53:08 No.2006929 Report

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>>2006915
>OP didn't check the catalogue
of course he didn't, he's a faggot redditor visiting from /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 02:36:07 No.2007054 Report

Quoted By: >>2007092 >>2007103 >>2007598

>>2004402
This pic always bugged me. That is no where near enough room for two cows to live healthily. Your only break from shoveling manure all day will be giving them more feed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 03:12:32 No.2007092 Report

Quoted By: >>2007103 >>2007598

>>2007054
It's not an infographic is a larpographic. Literally no one does this shit

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 03:29:42 No.2007103 Report

Quoted By: >>2007108 >>2007394

>>2007054
You're right, a goat would be better

>>2007092
They're here for inspiration and ideas - starting a farm based on an infographic is a meme and you should DYOR before undertaking such a monumental task as freeing yourself from society

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 03:39:47 No.2007108 Report

Quoted By: >>2007369 >>2007949

>>2007103
It's a larp. Literally thousands of threads and no one has done it. You are all retarded children trying to escape wageslavery and even you know it's so dumb you don't even try except that one tard who was shitting in a bucket working at Burger king

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 08:15:41 No.2007369 Report

Quoted By: >>2007396

>>2007108
Your post is a larp - our ancestors did this for hundreds of thousands of years

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 08:46:46 No.2007394 Report

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>>2007103
Dafuq are courgettes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 08:47:40 No.2007396 Report

Quoted By: >>2007434 >>2007949

>>2007369
Then why does no one do it? Making more larp threads isn't doing it its shouting that you can't do it. Which you can't. If you could you would. But you don't and you won't. Because you can't and you shant

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 09:49:26 No.2007434 Report

Quoted By: >>2007447 >>2007660

>>2007396
Lurk more you retarded factor, just because you think something is hard doesn't mean it's impossible.
There have been plenty of people posting their farming set up, which you'd know if you've been here more than a couple of days.
Go back to playing video games, they might be more your speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 10:22:07 No.2007447 Report

Quoted By: >>2007462

>>2007434
Lmao all you tards do is post infolarpics. Answer the question. Why aren't you doing it? Why is no one doing it? Why has no one ever done it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 10:35:52 No.2007462 Report

Quoted By: >>2007463

>>2007447
A better question is why are you being such a faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 10:45:07 No.2007463 Report

Quoted By: >>2007478

>>2007462
How many infolarpics do you have in your collection? How many do you need before you are self sufficient in useless computer files ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 11:20:45 No.2007478 Report

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>>2007463
Dont care virgin. Why do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 11:23:46 No.2007481 Report

Quoted By: >>2007487

It is too far now… return to primordial soup, shit went south after that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 11:40:26 No.2007487 Report

Quoted By: >>2007532 >>2007955

>>2007481
They would rather hang out in mommy's basement posting on their goyphone11g larping as self-sufficient mountainmen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 13:26:38 No.2007532 Report

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>>2007487
Sounds like someone's jealous

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 14:55:12 No.2007598 Report

Quoted By: >>2007620

>>2007054
>>2007092
>>2004402
This image is from a book called The Complete Book of Self-Sufficiency by John Seymour. The author explains that you will have to bring in animal feed in this set up, at least for the winter. The text that goes with this image should really be posted alongside it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 15:06:48 No.2007620 Report

Quoted By: >>2007627

>>2007598
Yes buy my collection of memes that will help you (me) have a nice home in the country

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 15:10:45 No.2007627 Report

Quoted By: >>2007641

>>2007620
I don't know what is wrong with you other than being poisoned by bitterness. The author died in the 2000s anyway.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 15:14:51 No.2007633 Report

Quoted By: >>2007641

Imagine going on the internet to convince people to become MORE reliant on society by actively arguing against self sufficiency

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 15:30:34 No.2007641 Report

Quoted By: >>2007664 >>2007665

>>2007627
Thousands of books sold and now sitting on bookshelves or in Goodwill and not a single buyer has used those precious memes to be self sufficient

>>2007633
Imagine believing you are going to run away from yourself and defeat the tribe you hate by buying a bunch of shit and land in the middle of nowhere and then you waste your whole life doing nothing and fail to reproduce actually fulfilling the plan of the tribe you hate whose goal is to neutralize you and eliminate your bloodline

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:00:07 No.2007660 Report

Quoted By: >>2007669

>>2007434
It makes me wonder why someone would come into a thread and shit on people who want to improve at something objectively useful.

It's either some kind of desperate bot, or someone with a crippling level of self-doubt so enormous that he must convince himself and others that self-improvement is a waste of time.

Don't let someone's projection get you down!
I want to garden, and I want everyone in this thread to be inspired to garden!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:03:38 No.2007664 Report

Quoted By: >>2007673

>>2007641
If growing your own 100% organic food is so bad, what would you have us do instead?
Never bitch about a problem if you have no solution, otherwise people will just think you are annoying.

You can't build anything by tearing something down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:03:38 No.2007665 Report

Quoted By: >>2007676 >>2007680

>>2007641
what are you doing to fight the tribe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:05:20 No.2007667 Report

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I have a little farm with chickens, pigs, and mules. Just moved here a few months ago. Going to plant a garden in the spring.

Chickens are the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:06:02 No.2007669 Report

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>>2007660
It's because you make 1000 threads larping as selfsufficientman and never leave Mommy's basement go be a btard somewhere else larper

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:10:53 No.2007673 Report

Quoted By: >>2007678

>>2007664
You aren't growing anything except your infolarpic collection

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:13:34 No.2007676 Report

Quoted By: >>2007680

>>2007665
He's pointing out that y'all fell into their trap so get /out/ before it's too late

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:14:12 No.2007678 Report

Quoted By: >>2007687

>>2007673
bitch, I have a greenhouse, and I'm going shopping for seeds as we speak.

just because all your plants died last time you tried doesn't mean gardening is evil bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:17:28 No.2007680 Report

Quoted By: >>2007683

>>2007665
>>2007676
what anon is asking is: what's better than fucking off and being self sufficient i.e. paying 0 taxes and not contributing in any meaningful way to the j*w trap?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:19:32 No.2007683 Report

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>>2007680
>What's better than 1000 larp threads?

Going out and failing and realizing it's stupid and impossible.

Why aren't you out doing it instead of larping?

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:20:24 No.2007686 Report

Quoted By: >>2007699 >>2007707

>Larp...larplarplarp..larp!

I'm reminded of those seagulls from Finding Nemo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:20:34 No.2007687 Report

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>>2007678
Congrats on being -20% self sufficient

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:24:55 No.2007696 Report

Quoted By: >>2007711

jesus, whats with the bitter guy? just fuck off and let me have my fun with plants and chickens and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:25:00 No.2007697 Report

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Why is it stupid and impossible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:25:38 No.2007699 Report

Quoted By: >>2007701

>>2007686
>I bought a bunch of plastic now I'm self sufficient

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:26:30 No.2007701 Report

Quoted By:

>>2007699
But WHY tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:30:27 No.2007707 Report

Quoted By: >>2007720

>>2007686
Nice setup. Do you ever use the stove?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:31:03 No.2007709 Report

Quoted By: >>2007712 >>2007717

I have a question for you guys (and hopefully this'll get the thread back on topic). I dont want to be fully self sufficient but I do want to reduce my reliance on groceries (I'm not willing to butcher so ill still go for meat and other odds and end I dont use too often). I was thinking of buying some land, building a house on it and having a small garden, some chickens, and maybe a couple goats for milk. How much land would that require? Anyone have any other suggestions to add?

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:32:39 No.2007711 Report

Quoted By: >>2007719

>>2007696
You're being trolled by a jaded urbanite who doesn't know his neighbors or anything about his community, he drives 25 minutes to get somewhere he could've walked to in ten, bags groceries, and rages at everyone else because he's too afraid to rock the boat he's sitting in, therefore it's unattainable, much like the grapes the fox so desperately craves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:33:00 No.2007712 Report

Quoted By: >>2007722

>>2007709
Oh yea I forgot to add that right now its just me and the wife but we plan on having 2 kids in the near future. So keep in mind a family of 2-4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:36:58 No.2007717 Report

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>>2007709
That larp requires 0.000 acres

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:37:11 No.2007718 Report

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The point is no one want to hear "knowledge" about "self sufficiency" from people who dont do it themselves and no a picture that makes you feel good from a book you never read is not knowledge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:39:55 No.2007719 Report

Quoted By: >>2007726

>>2007711
They won't believe you they fell for the self sufficient meme not realizing it's a psyop and impossible

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:40:11 No.2007720 Report

Quoted By: >>2007724

>>2007707
The stove is mainly to help during the winter months where the interior temps can dip a bit low for some of the more temperate climate plants, the water basin does a ton of temperature regulation just by itself for most of the year though.

>Yes, that's a woman. We fuck as loud as we want because there's nobody around to worry about disturbing. Still larping though because what woman would ever want a traditional life with a small homestead and reading to their kids every night?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:40:35 No.2007722 Report

Quoted By: >>2007755 >>2007765

>>2007712
with goats i'd actually look into silvopastoralism. give them a bit of wooded/half wild land to feed on so they would fuck up your garden. cause goats eat everything. theyll eat your damn laudnry if you leave it out for too long.
as for groceries, first step would be to identify what grows well on the soil your land will have. not everything grows well everywhere, so that is a factor you need to account for. a single mature cherry tree is enough for my three person family to be eating cherry cakes and kompot for pretty much the whole year, so various foods have various yields. also - you need to look into preserving the food - pickling, making jams and such, storing potatoes in a cellar. otherwise a lot of your work will go to waste. sorry if im chaotic, but thats what you get when you ask for suggestions

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:41:43 No.2007724 Report

Quoted By: >>2007731 >>2007736

>>2007720
can i ask what part of the world are you in? the dome looks dope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:43:55 No.2007726 Report

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>>2007719
Jesus fucking christ how about explaining yourself for once?

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:46:07 No.2007731 Report

Quoted By: >>2007734

>>2007724
Sangre de Christo Mountain Range

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:49:34 No.2007734 Report

Quoted By: >>2007744

>>2007731
looks pretty arid. euro anon here, so im kinda dumb on american climates. are those tukeys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:49:54 No.2007736 Report

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>>2007724
He's in his mommy's basement in SanFagCisco. Like totally self sufficient as long as mommy let's him lay there for free

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:55:27 No.2007744 Report

Quoted By: >>2007747

>>2007734
Yessir, they're wild turkeys. You're spot on about it being a much more brittle/ arid climate, I dont recall the specifics but we only get roughly 20 or so inches or rain a year with about half of that or more being snowfall over the winter months, so I tend to focus on rainwater catchment and heavy mulching to try and keep the water in the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 16:57:46 No.2007747 Report

Quoted By: >>2007754

>>2007744
oh nice! any tips on water management? where i live was getting severe spring droughts the last few years and could actually start becoming dryland in the next few decades. implemented a few of my own ideas but its always good to share

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 17:08:13 No.2007754 Report

Quoted By: >>2007761

>>2007747
There's a metric fuckton of info on the subject, but if you have an above ground water cistern do your best to keep the water that's going into it out of direct sunlight, mulch your plants with ramial wood chips as best you can, and generally just try and make your property work in a way that even the water you aren't catching off your roof is being slowed down, spread out, and sunk into your soil rather than speeding off in some channelized flow that takes your soil with it.

Brad Lancaster is a really solid source of information on the subject.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 17:08:19 No.2007755 Report

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>>2007722
Didn't seem chaotic to me. Lots of good suggestions. Thanks anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 17:15:37 No.2007761 Report

Quoted By: >>2007772

>>2007754
yeah, its all pretty intuitive if you know the basics, i was hoping maybe there was some neat trick i could learn. still good to discuss. i was initially sceptical of woodchips but the effects exceeded all my expectations. my property is long and slighty downhill, so a lot of options there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 17:17:40 No.2007765 Report

Quoted By: >>2007773

>>2007722
silvopastoralism looks interesting but at least where I live currently having a lot of trees means there's fuck all growing on the ground. What would you plant on the ground that would grow well in the shade and also be good for the goats? It would also be an added benefit if it gives the chickens some good foraging opportunities.
As for what will grow on the land, I currently live in zone 9 but plan on moving to zone 7 so most staple veggies should be fine and I'm willing to put in the work to make the soil more hospitable to whatever I want to grow.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 17:23:07 No.2007772 Report

Quoted By: >>2007775

>>2007761
Look for headcuts on your property, places where the water gets moving fast enough that it actually carves out a small cliff/ waterfall in a rain event and dig out a round basin where the water splashes down, you could probably bury a barrel or just dig a hole and line it with rocks, but the idea is the water fills that basin and overflows out of it, essentially slowing down the chances of erosion while also spreading the flow and slowing it down.

Once the water starts seeping out of the hole you can further slow the water down by planting stuff on the downhill side or making something like a crescent moon out of rocks that the water has to flow through.

All of this stuff Brad Lancaster mentions btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 17:24:20 No.2007773 Report

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>>2007765
if the wooded area is a part of your property, you could consider just cutting down some of the trees - more light means more vegetation, also goats love climbing.
about veggies: start small.theres a lot vaiables: maybe some kind of a pest will be present in your area that damages some of your plants, ot the soil will be polluted/otherwise unsuitable for some of the veggies. start with just a few types of veggies and expand with time, as you learn how your microecosystem works. besides, trying to manage too many different crops at once is a fucking nightmare, even if you respect the "good neighbours" thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 17:26:38 No.2007775 Report

Quoted By: >>2007779

>>2007772
thanks man, that is a good trick. i always trust personal experience more than a book

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 17:32:14 No.2007779 Report

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>>2007775
Well this is personal experience I applied learning from a book, look this dude up on YouTube and there's a home tour he does that really drives his information home. He's a bit of a talker but his water management is impeccable, learned from a farmer in one of the African continents, but I can't recall which.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 20:30:23 No.2007933 Report

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>>2004402
That farmer has a shed bear. Good for him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 20:43:02 No.2007949 Report

Quoted By: >>2007961

>>2007108
>>2007396
who hurt you? seriously you seem deeply, deeply wounded and or schizophrenic. Seek help friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 20:45:15 No.2007955 Report

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>>2007487
go back to your tranny boyfriend /leftypol/ your nihilism has no power here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2021 20:51:12 No.2007961 Report

Quoted By: >>2008251

>>2007949
Lashing out at random people won't repair your damaged relationship with your dad and it won't make your dream of running away to the woods because you hate yourself a viable goal. Maybe talk things over with a priest

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Anonymous Wed 10 Feb 2021 01:38:42 No.2008251 Report

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>>2007961
>lashing out
>genuine concern

Getting these expressions confused is a sign of autism

Why don't you start by trying to be just 5% self sufficient - grow some of your own food, filter your own water, buy a chicken?

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