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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:41:24 No.2035910 View View Reply Original Report

Is this actually good outdoorwear or is it just hypebeast fashion shit?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:45:24 No.2035918 Report

Quoted By: >>2035934

>>2035910
i'm sure it's great, just not worth the money. if you understand what clothes are made out of, how they're sewn, and if you can recognize craftsmanship, then it shouldn't be too much trouble for you to find outdoorwear of a similar quality for a tenth the price. course, it's difficult if you can't see what you're buying in person

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:54:30 No.2035930 Report

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>>2035910
If you have good money, sure go for it. Gore tex is gore tex in my experience. I ski 50 days a year and a cheap north face does me fine. I've noticed stuck up ski dads wear arc teryx, also hiker fags. The fit looks very slim. I like my jacket baggy.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:55:41 No.2035931 Report

Quoted By: >>2036026 >>2036615

I bought a Sabre AR jacket because it looked like a sturdy shell, but also something I can wear around. I live in Minnesota. It seems to have some kind of flannel built into it. Can I wear it with just a t-shirt under in like 40F weather?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:58:11 No.2035934 Report

Quoted By: >>2036779

>>2035918
>it's difficult if you can't see what you're buying in person
which is also why i suspect that online buying has emboldened companies like arcteryx to sell their wares at whatever absurdly high price they see fit. if you can't see the arcteryx jacket and the non-arcteryx jacket side by side, see that they're made of similar or the same material, with equal parts stitching, and that the fabric is the same thickness, then you're probably not going to know you're being ripped off. you really need to have a handle on the manufacturing process - try to guess how much it costs to manufacture the item vs the price tag, and ask yourself "is this profit margin too big?". dont buy stuff thats marked up 1000 or 2000%

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 04:03:24 No.2035937 Report

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>>2035910
I'm sure it's nice stuff, but be aware that you will be drawing attention to yourself. Especially if you're doing any long solo trips in potentially sketchy areas. I love nice gear, but I always try to keep this in mind too. I try to be as inconspicuous as possible to not draw any unwanted attention. You don't want to look like a walking dollar sign. People's gear gets stolen more often than you would think. Be smart, be careful /out/ there.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 04:04:35 No.2035939 Report

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>>2035910
>asking this question
why? what's the point? do you buy so much gear that you have to stick to one brand for volume discounts?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 04:23:38 No.2035943 Report

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This shit makes orvis prices seem reasonable. Would not buy.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 04:58:24 No.2035974 Report

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>>2035910
Same quality as cheaper brands. It’s all hype.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 05:36:11 No.2036003 Report

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>>2035910
>mfw the professor I’m working with tells me that Arc’teryx is the only brand that fits him correctly when I ask him why it’s the only thing he wears

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 05:39:06 No.2036006 Report

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>>2035910
I got one of their rain jackets. It’s pretty great; tough, great fit, nice adjustability, comfortable. It was expensive but I don’t regret the price at all.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 05:47:00 No.2036015 Report

Quoted By: >>2036022 >>2036052 >>2036108 >>2036114 >>2036302 >>2047245

They're one of the leading brands when it comes to technical outerwear. They're for a specific crowd of people, not just for hikers. It's more for climbers and especially alpine climbers.

People who keep saying materials and whatnot are ignorant because Arc'teryx compared to other brands have better materials or just as good if they're just as top quality. Their down jackets have 850 goose down, their fabrics are top notch, they use the best goretex fabrics and above all else, it's very apparent they continuously evolve their designs, some jackets and shit evolve with each season even, others are barely touched because they're perfect as is; Alpha SV, Atom LT, etc.

Then you have the important thing about deadbird: the cut and design of their jackets. This is where they shine. Fuck materials, fuck stitching, we already know they're top notch, but design, cut, etc. deadbird does it best. Again, a lot of their technical pieces are designed around climbing.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 05:52:16 No.2036022 Report

Quoted By: >>2036024

>>2036015
t. Hypebeast

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 05:53:32 No.2036024 Report

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>>2036022
I mean, if thots and urbanites are going to give me respect for wearing climbing outerwear, that's a bonus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 05:58:00 No.2036026 Report

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>>2035931
>>2035931

bump

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 06:18:27 No.2036038 Report

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They closed the Icebreaker store at a shopping centre near me and replaced it with an Arc'Teryx store.
Fucking chinks. :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 06:46:05 No.2036052 Report

Quoted By: >>2036114 >>2036302

>>2036015
Yeah, this. They shine when it comes to technical alpine outerwear, which is a niche area. It's not hiking, it's not skiing on slopes, it's not snow shoeing and it's not sport climbing.

The point about fit is a very good one when you consider you need something that'll fit well with a harness, not bunch up between straps and not hang over the top so you can't see your gear. Also hoods that will fit over helmets and stay in place when you move your head around. The pockets need to be in the right place and you need to be able to reach up without screwing up how the jacket sits on your harness. It can't be too loose otherwise you catch it on ice axes.

It seems like a lot of fashion likes to take something existing and appropriate it. Same kind of thing happens with work wear. I guess some people wear it to appropriate the aesthetic of other peoples lifestyles, for others it's more aspirational.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 06:55:14 No.2036056 Report

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it's both
not worth msrp in my opinion, but very nice clothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 09:44:08 No.2036108 Report

Quoted By:

>>2035910
>>2036015
i would go for ptfe free hardshells instead of goretex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 09:51:48 No.2036114 Report

Quoted By: >>2036294

>>2036015
>>2036052
Shill and samefag. These posts are formatted the exact same and written similarly. They read like those fake amazon reviews that companies pay for.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 15:53:43 No.2036294 Report

Quoted By: >>2053695

>>2036114
Anon, do yourself a favor and cop a Beta LT on clearance. It'll fit your behavior. My boys and I will be chilling in our Alpha SV's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 15:58:24 No.2036297 Report

Quoted By: >>2036299 >>2036307

>>2035910

Between top tier to borderline experimental shit.

Its overpriced insofar you dont need that level of good, and also many products actually suck shit. For example I had an expensive ABCD whatever gore tex jacket and it was cold as shit and very uncomfy, switched for a cheaper Haglofs. Some gloves are shit as well.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 16:00:45 No.2036299 Report

Quoted By: >>2036322 >>2036691

>>2036297
>my hardshell was cold as shit
Stick to carhartt and other redneck brands. Technical outerwear is a little too high IQ for you.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 16:04:34 No.2036302 Report

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>>2036015
>>2036052
Are they any better than my BD clothes? I do like the looks of that new climbing harness they released, torn between that and a BD technician. Does it have ice clipper slots like the BD harness, Mr Shill?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 16:10:48 No.2036307 Report

Quoted By: >>2036691

>>2036297
>my shell was cold
Anon, I...

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 16:28:23 No.2036322 Report

Quoted By: >>2036356

>>2036299
>Spending too much money on a windbreaker makes me smart

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 17:12:01 No.2036356 Report

Quoted By: >>2036612 >>2036738

>>2036322
>wearing a shell without an insulating layer underneath
>how come I'm cold, this jacket sucks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 17:13:49 No.2036361 Report

Quoted By: >>2039498

>>2035910
Its literally over priced Walmart-tiered gear you dumb fuck. Youre paying for the name and name alone. Keep consooming though instead of actually getting gud by training

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 18:49:31 No.2036434 Report

Quoted By: >>2056500

>only anons so far in this thread who sound like they know a thing or two are praising Arc’teryx
>anons who are criticizing the brand clearly have no idea about how layering works and are clearly ignorant
In all honesty this is all I need to know about the brand. Sounds like it’s a a good one tbqh.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 19:04:55 No.2036444 Report

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My new Arc'teryx jacket just arrived today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 19:07:23 No.2036448 Report

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>>2035910
Since I can actually pronounce their name, I'm going to guess they're not the most expensive outdoor brand.
Mammut is the most expensive brand I see commonly in stores and in ski towns and I highly doubt these are the most expensive brand names out there. It feels like the more popular a brand gets the cheaper it becomes both in price and quality.
Back in the 90's and early 00's North Face was stupid expensive and usually fell into the category of the absolute best shit money could. They still sell expensive shit but most of it is pretty reasonably priced.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 19:17:59 No.2036460 Report

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>>2035910
Like all brands it has good and bad stuff.
It's generally accepted to be over-priced but you can find it 50% off a lot.
I've a polartec fleece thing that I've lived in for about 5 years and it's still great.
I've had some gloves that were shit.
A Beta AR that i didn't like. My Rab and Mountain Equipment jackets are better.
A Thorium AR down jacket that is good, but not as good as my Rab Electron though.

Generally if you are /out/ a lot and trying lots of different gear you'll never be a one brand person.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 20:10:15 No.2036511 Report

Quoted By: >>2036513

>>2035910
>or is it just hypebeast fashion shit?
This one. I got one from work and it's extremely uncomfortable and impractical as far as the shape. A pure fashion item.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 20:12:12 No.2036513 Report

Quoted By: >>2036535

>>2036511
How fat are you?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 20:12:20 No.2036515 Report

Quoted By:

>>2035910
yes

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 20:35:11 No.2036535 Report

Quoted By: >>2036692

>>2036513
Not fat.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 21:26:26 No.2036572 Report

Quoted By: >>2036834

>>2035910

Clothing, especially their LEAF military line, are flagship standard for the industry. How Do I know? I own Two of their Alpha Leaf Hardshells; I've tortured one for 10 years and its handled everything with ease and is still going.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 22:21:01 No.2036612 Report

Quoted By: >>2036738

>>2036356
Sad that you had to explain this to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 22:22:35 No.2036615 Report

Quoted By: >>2051573

>>2035931
>Can I wear it with just a t-shirt under in like 40F weather?
You can skip the shell and just wear a t shirt at that rate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 00:11:46 No.2036682 Report

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>>2035910
Got one off a sale and it was pretty fucking bad, I have $50 jackets better than this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 00:23:38 No.2036691 Report

Quoted By: >>2036726 >>2037713 >>2056501

>>2036299
>>2036307

It was a jacket with wind stopping / water repelling capabilities you cunts. Not a literal hardshell. It was cold as shit. I didnt freeze in it, it did its job, but it was unpleasant to wear and the fit was crap. My trusty haglofs does the same but it's warmer and more comfy.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 00:23:40 No.2036692 Report

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>>2036535
>t. fat

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 00:53:50 No.2036718 Report

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I have a down jacket that I got for a steal a few years back when a store was closing. It's a really nice piece, very lightweight but warm and well cut, and it's still in good shape 5 or 6 years after I bought it. I dunno if I would've paid full price for it (400-ish iirc) but it's definitely nicer than comparable jackets in the $100-150 range like the REI Co-Op stuff or whatever. Only downside is that it's bright orange but I've usually got a shell over it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 01:09:18 No.2036726 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036691
>goretex
>not a literal hardshell
ANON PLEASE

Recipe man

Recipe man Sun 07 Mar 2021 01:31:51 No.2036738 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036356
>>2036612
I wasn't the retard that didn't know what a shell was, I was just commenting that buying expensive stuff doesn't make you smart. Consumer harder nigger.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 02:38:08 No.2036764 Report

Quoted By: >>2036771 >>2036917 >>2038774

Arc'teryx was one of the most vocally woke during the pretty boy Floyd riots. I think I remember them having some big letter on their home page apologizing for making nature so hostile for kangs or some retarded shit.

So in mind arc'teryx will forever be the #1 brand for getting bl*cked in

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 02:48:53 No.2036771 Report

Quoted By: >>2036803 >>2036808 >>2036913

>>2036764
You will never be a woman.
You will never be accepted in society.
You will never be accepted in and around nature.

Put yourself out of your misery before someone else has to shoot you like a sick dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 02:54:27 No.2036779 Report

Quoted By: >>2036797 >>2037274

>>2035934
I'm not the anon you responded too. What would you suggest as an alternative to dead bird? As someone that doesn't have enough time in the day to learn the idiosyncrasies of the clothing industry, all I have to go off is brand recognition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 03:14:26 No.2036797 Report

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>>2036779
>alternative to dead bird
Pretty much all the outdoor gear companies are the same more or less. Just find something with a good fit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 03:28:40 No.2036803 Report

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>>2036771
Take your meds maybe

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 03:37:07 No.2036808 Report

Quoted By: >>2036887

>>2036771
Did you not understand that guy's post?
Or is this like back in the soi days where the basedboys started calling everything soi to try and make it meaningless?

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 04:28:36 No.2036834 Report

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>>2036572
Their LEAF line is great. I have the Atom LT pants and jacket and I wear the jacket everywhere, hiking, rock climbing, alpine. The pants are my go-to for an alpine climbing soft shell.

Their hard shells don't really work for me for alpine climbing or hiking though. I think there's better jackets for hiking and I don't like them over-fitted for alpine treks as I do long-haul mixed stuff, but I can see why people who are into get-in-get-out ice climbing and so on like them.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 04:34:03 No.2036838 Report

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I have a really nice jacket from them, but I'm paranoid of wearing it with my jeans cuz I don't want the jean dye to rub off and stain a jacket that is worth almost $700. However, I will have no problem taking it out on the snow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 04:47:53 No.2036842 Report

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I have one I got on a prodeal
I use it year round for ski touring and Backpacking and it keeps me dry pretty well
I would say if you can get a decent deal on one its worth it otherwise just find something cheaper

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 05:41:18 No.2036887 Report

Quoted By: >>2036891 >>2036894

>>2036808
It kinda worked though didn't it?

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 05:46:00 No.2036891 Report

Quoted By: >>2036894 >>2037571

>>2036887
No, not really at all. It's like the word "hipster." People don't want to be called soi or hipster but those terms both describe real phenomena.
The ones that want to discredit the terms know the terms describe them and since they're not complimentary they don't like it.
If you're referring to a downturn in the use of "soi" that is just the natural life of a meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 05:48:21 No.2036894 Report

Quoted By: >>2037720

>>2036887
>>2036891
There can be a downturn in "hipster" as people stop dressing like hipsters but soi is going to be pretty evergreen for the foreseeable future.
High mutational load, skinny fat bodies, overly pale skin, myopia, maxfac deformity, effeminate manner and consoomer hobbies: the only country doing anything to combat it that I have heard about is China.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 06:31:37 No.2036913 Report

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>>2036771
Did you drop out of middle school 'cause you failed reading comprehension?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 06:40:17 No.2036917 Report

Quoted By: >>2040443

>>2036764
Uh no they didn't, a few months ago an anon mistakingly said deadbird was base for not supporting the George Floyd riot bullshit, because they were one of the few who didn't advertise that on their MAIN website.

Unfortunately they did have a single post on instagram, the blacked out photo every idiot was doing.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 17:53:15 No.2037274 Report

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>>2036779
Consider your needs.
>climate
>use (hiking, skiing, climbing, etc)
>pocket location
>fabric weight
>hood type
>pit zips
>colour
>fit

Then spend what you can afford.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 22:37:45 No.2037571 Report

Quoted By: >>2037720

>>2036891
Yes it describes a real phenomena but it means a hell of a lot less to be called or refer to something as soi now because of that overuse. Like, it's understood what the word is describing but colloquially it's just synonymous with bad. That's soi, this is soi, you're soi = that's bad, this is bad, I don't like you. I'd say the generalization and cleaning of the word is close to the word meaning nothing.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 01:59:30 No.2037713 Report

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>>2036691
It's called layering you dumb bastard. Not being warm is a good thing in something that stops water and wind because it means it stands a chance of not being a hot house in warmer situations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 02:02:17 No.2037720 Report

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>>2037571
>it means a hell of a lot less to be called or refer to something as soi now because of that overuse.

If I tell you that you look a bit orange today do you say. OMG, orange is a meaningless term, it refers to a colour, a fruit and a President?

>but colloquially it's just synonymous with bad.

Misuse of the word doesn't mean the word becomes meaningless. Soi refers to specific things. I mention some of them here:
>>2036894

If you are a soiboi you do not gain a tan, muscle, low body fat and good eyesight by overuse of that word. It still describes you.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 19:28:57 No.2038406 Report

Quoted By: >>2051580

>>2035910
If you live somewhere cold and wet, take the Buffalo pill.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 19:31:07 No.2038408 Report

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>>2035910

yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 19:36:44 No.2038412 Report

Quoted By: >>2038448

>it’s not hypebeast shit because the fit
Lol christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 20:32:59 No.2038448 Report

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>>2038412
It’s not hypebeast because it’s an actual outdoor brand that also runs a famous climbing academy yearly. You dunce.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 21:13:11 No.2038486 Report

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 21:19:46 No.2038494 Report

Quoted By: >>2038538

>>2035910
For me it's fjallraven

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 21:27:58 No.2038501 Report

Quoted By:

>>2035910
good gear but expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 22:35:05 No.2038538 Report

Quoted By: >>2038575 >>2038591

>>2038494
Knock it all you want, but the vidda pro pants are dope for /out/. Just wait for them to go on sale.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 23:15:58 No.2038575 Report

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>>2038538
I have one of their backpacks (not the hipster purse) and it's been good to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 23:32:45 No.2038591 Report

Quoted By: >>2038593 >>2038739

>>2038538
I don't really like them. They're just knock-off Crye Precision combat pants. I'd rather get a softshell pant with minimal features to save on weight, where as the vidda pros have like 50 pockets.

When it comes to outdoor companies, I've noticed a good 99% of European brands cater to the larping crowd, the fat asses who go out and bushcraft, and that ethos is all about "BOMBER PROOF, DURABLE AS FUCK, RETARDS CAN'T EVEN DESTROY THIS" which is....dumb to say the least.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 23:34:02 No.2038593 Report

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>>2038591
Personally I like the idea of one pair for the rest of your life as opposed to fast fashion and I'm American as fuck.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 23:36:34 No.2038595 Report

Quoted By: >>2038601

its top tier shit but its not for poorfags...you want the cheap ugly shit like milsurp if youre broke

>mfw im not white but wear arctyrex and white women cant resist me

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 23:41:44 No.2038601 Report

Quoted By: >>2038611 >>2038612

>>2038595
Man where the fuck do you live, all the white girls only acknowledge Patagonia where I am. They don't even know deadbird. Feels bad man.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 23:49:05 No.2038611 Report

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>>2038601
I live in silicon valley so theres alot of money in the area. Arctyrex is fairly common but mostly by larpers myself included. But hey they make good stuff that works and is really comfortable so why not.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 23:49:49 No.2038612 Report

Quoted By: >>2038663

>>2038601
Fuck you stupid shill.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 01:01:25 No.2038663 Report

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>>2038612
SEEEEEETTTTTHHHHHEEEEEEEEEE

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 02:33:47 No.2038739 Report

Quoted By: >>2038989

>>2038591
>Crye Precision combat pants
These are more expensive and you're just being contrarian because you think wanting a pant that isn't going to snag on a bush is a larp.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 03:01:21 No.2038774 Report

Quoted By: >>2038901 >>2040443

>>2036764
this wasn't during the floyd riots, but they've been putting up some wokeshit about "making the outdoors for everyone" with non-white and women models.

it sucks, but their clothing is still great
yet to find a synthetic insulated jacket i like as much as my atom, and their shells are top-notch

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 04:52:57 No.2038901 Report

Quoted By: >>2038924 >>2038990 >>2040455 >>2046727

>>2038774
>making the outdoors for everyone

lel, such horse shit. the outdoors was always for everyone it's just that not everyone has a preference for it.
the real play here is they want azns, wahmens and azn wahmen to buy their stuff even though they don't go out.
doesn't matter on principle but in practice that likely means they're gonna become a shitty fashion brand. you'll be lucky if even a couple of their products remain good quality.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 05:22:13 No.2038924 Report

Quoted By: >>2038957

>>2038901
yeah ofc the face of this campaign was korean
that's where the money is nowadays ig

even if they go full-patagonia, the LEAF stuff will always be good quality, and i'm sure they'll still have an elite-line or similar

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 05:50:37 No.2038957 Report

Quoted By: >>2044396

>>2038924
You can hope that but multiple things that got popular with military dudes got chinked out precisely because they were popular with military dudes.
eg. Oakley sneaker boots.
You have to cross your fingers that the product remains popular enough that they keep selling it but not popular enough that they need make more of it and faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 06:37:10 No.2038989 Report

Quoted By: >>2039463

>>2038739
No, he is right.
>50/50 cotton blend
>fucking WAXING for water resistance
>12 pockets
They’re purely larp pants. Get soft shell pants like the rest of us who aren’t leaping. Faggot.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 06:41:04 No.2038990 Report

Quoted By: >>2039068

>>2038901
Arc'teryx has had skater from the 90's wear their shit, started their fashion line in the late 90's, and has still been making technical outerwear that's top notch....why do people act like Arc'teryx JUST became a fashion brand is beyond me. They always have balanced the fashion and technical shit perfectly for the past 2 decades now.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 10:07:59 No.2039068 Report

Quoted By: >>2039491

>>2038990
Way to strawman my post. No where in there do I say it's only a fashion brand. I am saying that might happen based on that happening with myriad brands over that same 20 year period.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:33:46 No.2039164 Report

Quoted By: >>2046044

>>2035910
Their LEAF line is great, life time warranty and all, ive used the jacket year around. Cant vouch for the other stuff.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:57:37 No.2039175 Report

Quoted By: >>2039184

Man, a lot of people in here take clothing _very_ seriously.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 13:09:22 No.2039184 Report

Quoted By: >>2039389 >>2039540

>>2039175
If you have the money to flippantly buy Arc'Teryx products you should pay me a monthly stipend to agree with all of your 4chan posts.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 16:31:59 No.2039389 Report

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>>2039184
Just stop being poor lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 17:16:38 No.2039463 Report

Quoted By: >>2039497 >>2041582

>>2038989
You're just as big of a faggot as the other guy. Soft shell pants are not durable. Also, no one is waxing viddas on the regular you stupid fucking nigger. You wax them if you are backpacking for an extended period of time, maybe. Otherwise a little bit of water is not going to ruin your day unless you're a huge fucking FAGGOT like you and worried about your hair and makeup or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 17:47:44 No.2039491 Report

Quoted By: >>2039534 >>2040079

>>2039068
>but in practice that likely means they're gonna become a shitty fashion brand
You said it's a sign they're becoming one, I said they've had that sign for quite some time and are still a technical outerwear company that makes great clothes. You dumb fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 17:49:39 No.2039497 Report

Quoted By: >>2039532

>>2039463
>softshell pants aren't durable
Yeah, that's why I climb in them on rough rock faces and what not and they never tear or show signs of wear.

Now go back to your dumb bushcrafting brands, you Freddie Mercury faggot. Vidda Pros are a fucking meme worn by larpers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 17:49:57 No.2039498 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036361
>over priced
Yes
>Walmart-tiered
Not even close

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 18:23:45 No.2039532 Report

Quoted By: >>2040448 >>2041582

>>2039497
You obviously a newfag or climb like a fucking girl because I have roughed up plenty of soft shell pants while bouldering.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 18:25:42 No.2039534 Report

Quoted By:

>>2039491
which group has more disposable income and acts like conspicuous consoomers?
>skaters
>asians and women

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Mar 2021 18:31:16 No.2039540 Report

Quoted By: >>2040081

>>2039184
>flippantly
That's a huge assumption. I buy high end gear but I'm certainly not flippant about it.
I work hard, save, and make sacrifices as where so I can go on big trips and buy good gear. It's not hard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:52:32 No.2040079 Report

Quoted By:

>>2039491
I apologize, I misread your post. You said JUST became and I read it as became JUST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:53:35 No.2040081 Report

Quoted By: >>2040260

>>2039540
Very good, sir. Will you be needing my services today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 06:59:44 No.2040260 Report

Quoted By:

>>2040081
no, no, take the day off.
>slips a note into your breast pocket
buy yourself and the wife something nice. that will be all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 13:52:21 No.2040443 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036917
>>2038774
Unless I am completely losing my mind I am positive they had a whole article on thier main page about it.
I'm sure of this because I was shopping for hiking pants and was going to buy arc'teryx but changed my mind and bought from a different brand specifically because of thier woke shit. I seen it and made a tangible purchasing decision based on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 13:56:57 No.2040448 Report

Quoted By:

>>2039532
He boulders his fat ass boyfriend. Don't take his word for shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 14:02:58 No.2040455 Report

Quoted By: >>2041578

>>2038901
The people who say that we've been "excluding" poc's from nature are the same people who say white people have no culture. If you deny the existence of white culture then everything that is part of white culture can only be explained by evil gate keeping. White culture is for some reason seen as common ownership.

mexanon

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mexanon Wed 10 Mar 2021 21:58:38 No.2040928 Report

Quoted By: >>2041788

dunno, I just wear overalls

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 13:03:54 No.2041578 Report

Quoted By:

>>2040455
You ever been inside an Asian shop and it was kind of grubby? You guys may not have this to see it where you live but near me there are malls which are 100% Asian stores.
They're very visibly dirty compared to other shopping centres in this country.
Whites have a standard of cleanliness which is considered anal retentive by most other races.
I think part of why shitlibs do that, besides ignorance, is they don't want to have to say things like "the standard of hygiene i expect is white culture, being gross is poc culture."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 13:09:23 No.2041582 Report

Quoted By: >>2041780

>>2039463
>>2039532
you've bought shitty softshell pants then. for the weight, nylon and polyester are about 10 times as abrasion resistant as cotton

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 17:53:27 No.2041780 Report

Quoted By: >>2041801 >>2041925 >>2057280

>>2041582
Vidda pros are 65% polyester 35% cotton. They are more durable than any true softshell pant I have ever purchased. Some climber at local store here suggested the OR Ferrosi's as the best softshell pant for climbing ever made. I went to a local bouldering gym and after one session the pants fucking pilled up horrendously and seems ripped. Pic related was all the damage after an hour of climbing in the "best climbing pant ever made." You'll have to mind the wrinkles because I pulled them out of the dirty laundry bin... Also the fabric is so thin that it shows my underwear and my dick outline which is lewd and my autism can't handle it. I have had other softshell pants that snagged on a bush limb and pulled a fucking seam up the entire leg. I still regularly buy Prana Brion's because they are comfy as fuck, and work well for a regular hike, but I need the peace of mind that my pants aren't fragile while backpacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 17:58:14 No.2041788 Report

Quoted By:

>>2040928
overalls are for queers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 18:10:49 No.2041801 Report

Quoted By: >>2041802 >>2041925

>>2041780
>35% cotton
stopped reading there, they're larp pants bro, a pair of Outdoor Research Ferrosi's cost less and are better, I literally rub that shit all the time while rock climbing at Mt. Charleston and Red Rock, come on bruuuuhhhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 18:13:24 No.2041802 Report

Quoted By: >>2041946

>>2041801
I just showed you pictures of ferrosi's after one climb bruuuuuuuhhhhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 20:19:36 No.2041925 Report

Quoted By: >>2041946

>>2041780
I had the same experience with Ferrosis. I want to like them, but sometimes I feel fucking naked with them on and the stitching does seem to wear out quick. I have them in black and you don't notice the dick outline or the pilling as fast, but it shows over time.

I have some Vidda's too, and they are great, they're the opposite end of the spectrum though. I only wear them when I go in the woods because they're work pants. I don't want to wear heavy ass work pants all day if I'm not in the shit.

>>2041801
get fucked. I bet you rub shit all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 20:42:07 No.2041946 Report

Quoted By: >>2041995

>>2041802
Not going to give a shit about a Gumby’s experience climbing indoors when my experience and countless others have experienced the opposite. Why do you think that climber recommended them. Why do you think I am.

Ferrosi and Parma Brion’s are better than vidda’s.
>>2041925
Another larper. Smfh.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 21:55:57 No.2041995 Report

Quoted By: >>2042048 >>2042159

>>2041946
You're just a salty faggot. Opinion discarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Mar 2021 22:49:12 No.2042048 Report

Quoted By: >>2042099

>>2041995
Not him, but I don't have a problem with my ferrosi's either. Honestly, the weight alone from the vidda pros, you could have a softshell pant + lightweight leggings and be an Oz or two under the entire weight of the vidda pros and have the versatility of more layering.

Patagonia capilene air + softshell pant = really good combo. Vidda pros just seem unneeded.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 00:04:53 No.2042099 Report

Quoted By: >>2042128

>>2042048
Unneeded for what? If I am setting up camp or in deep woods, I prefer to have a tougher pant. That is all this amounts to and it seems to hilariously piss people off. I don't like to worry about what fabric I am wearing when outdoors, it's that simple. I wear duck canvas pants when doing yard work for the same reasons. Are you all going to sperg out about duck canvas pants now too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 00:54:53 No.2042128 Report

Quoted By: >>2042179

>>2042099
No, I'm not going to lose my shit over your choice of wear over yard work, but when it comes to outdoor stuff where weight may potentially matter, especially when hiking, a 65/35 or 50/50 cotton poly blend is kinda dumb to use. You can invest in better layering that's just as durable, if not more so, weighs less, potentially more breathable if that is what you need, and has the added ability to layer with for versatility like I said.

If they work for you, that's fine, but there's better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 01:16:27 No.2042147 Report

Quoted By:

>>2035910
YOU ARE PAYING FOR WARRANTY AND CUSTOMER CARE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 01:24:56 No.2042159 Report

Quoted By: >>2042179

>>2041995
There's no need for homophobic slurs here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 01:52:30 No.2042179 Report

Quoted By: >>2044861

>>2042128
The fabric of those softshells will damage and tear, so make sure to stay on trail and watch out where you walk or how you handle fire wood or anything else while in the woods. Let someone else take care of that stuff so you don't ruin those nice pants of yours. Why exactly do you think Crye uses a 50/50 blend? Because it's weak? This weird gatekeeping shit some of you faggots get caught up in is pretty fucking stupid.

>>2042159
Why didn't you call out anyone else you chump? Eat shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 01:54:38 No.2042180 Report

Quoted By: >>2042186 >>2042262

pic related is gucci as fuck, same with their puffy layers. no idea how they justify $1200 for it though. thanks taxpayers lol

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 02:01:50 No.2042186 Report

Quoted By: >>2042219

>>2042180
A lot of these outdoor companies have professional programs that offer these products at exclusive prices so some people aren't paying full price. Arcteryx specifically offers these discounted rates to IFMGA - International Federation of Mountain Guides Associations (IVBV, UIAGM), ACMG - Association of Canadian Mountain Guides, AMGA - American Mountain Guides Association and accredited organizations
Mountain and wilderness Search and Rescue members, Professional avalanche association members, forecasters, and course instructors, NSP, CSP, or fulltime professional ski patrol, Professional ski & snowboard instructors (Level 2 or higher), Certified outdoor education instructors, Park Rangers & Conservation Officers, Fire fighters and paramedics, NGO employee whose mission is conservation, mentorship, inclusion or access, and Outdoor manufacturing employees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 02:38:20 No.2042219 Report

Quoted By:

>>2042186
Outdoor Research, Fjallraven, Icebreaker, and even Lulu Lemon have good pro/mil discounts too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 03:23:52 No.2042262 Report

Quoted By: >>2042267

>>2042180

This jacket is like $350 dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 03:33:26 No.2042267 Report

Quoted By: >>2042269 >>2042271

>>2042262
$850 for the Alpha LT in black, $1200 for the Alpha in multicam

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 03:35:18 No.2042269 Report

Quoted By: >>2042326

>>2042267

Alpha LT doesn't even exist friend

https://www.backcountry.com/arc-teryx-alpha-fl-jacket-mens?skid=ARCZ960-GLA-L&ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6YWxwaGEgbHQ6MToxODphbHBoYSBsdA==

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 03:36:29 No.2042271 Report

Quoted By:

>>2042267
Ironic that if you want it in a non-gay colour you have to pay childless gay couple-tier money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Mar 2021 04:39:57 No.2042326 Report

Quoted By:

>>2042269
https://leaf.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/alpha-lt-jacket-gen-2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Mar 2021 06:47:14 No.2044396 Report

Quoted By:

>>2038957
Every boot has been chinked out. Right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Mar 2021 18:28:42 No.2044847 Report

Quoted By:

I have an alfa fx or something (with 1 pocket) and it is light as fuck, keeps me dry, is high quality and looks good. Also minimal sweating when wearing it. I also have another superthin arcteryx jacket, which is great for trail running. I have another city line jacket which was fairly cheap, the zipper broke after 4 years. The expensive shit is superwel made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Mar 2021 18:43:15 No.2044861 Report

Quoted By: >>2048442 >>2050014

>>2042179
There’s a plethora of reports of guys ripping and tearing crye’s easily and from my experience with them just larping around Arizona bush, they did rip and tear and get holes pretty easily. They aren’t the end all be all fabric, some soft shell pants are thicker than others and if you’re seriously doing real hard work a hard shell might be better for you.

I agree with that anon. It’s not even gatekeeping it’s merely just informing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Mar 2021 00:38:01 No.2045224 Report

Quoted By:

>>2035910
Haven't tried their insulating layers, but been loving the Beta SV jacket and Gamma LT pants I've had. Fit is nice for non-fatties, takes a beating looks perfectly new, light and well designed.

Only cop off outlet and with promos though. Nice as it is, it's hard to justify vs. the kind of trips you can take with that money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Mar 2021 19:46:32 No.2046044 Report

Quoted By:

>>2039164
sadly they discontinued a lot of good LEAF designs like those under-body-armor softshell shirts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Mar 2021 19:56:33 No.2046051 Report

Quoted By:

>>2035910
I've heard good things about their shoes but never tried them myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 09:38:55 No.2046727 Report

Quoted By:

>>2038901
same with filson, just a fashion brand now, with one or two work items (way overpriced of course) so they can claim they are still an honest american workwear brand

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 18:57:45 No.2047075 Report

Quoted By:

>>2035910
overpriced onions trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 22:17:11 No.2047245 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036015
This, it's for climbers. I'm a tree climber and keep a beta lt in my clothing gear bag. I have a northface shell but the mobility is shit and the hood doesn't fit over my helmet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 16:21:58 No.2048093 Report

Quoted By:

Bought it because I was tired of having milsurp and cheap carhartts fall apart on me. Best brand in terms of consistency and quality, I have one low end and one high end jacket and they're worth the price. Goretex is also just fucking magical

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 22:33:14 No.2048442 Report

Quoted By: >>2048445

>>2044861
Post pics

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 22:36:52 No.2048445 Report

Quoted By: >>2048459

>>2048442
Why does he need to when Crye specifically already addressed the issue with the gen 4's. I'm surprised that anon didn't even bring up the gen 4 because it would've completely destroyed that idiot's argument.
>Why exactly do you think Crye uses a 50/50 blend?
They don't. They use a 4 way softshell material now.

https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/aprcpw0232r_g4-combat-pant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 22:50:45 No.2048459 Report

Quoted By: >>2048462

>>2048445
Just trying to snuff out people who talk about things that they have never owned. Should be pretty easy to post a pic today, everyone has a camera. What issue did Crye specifically address? What does this have to do with the fact that fjallraven viddas are more durable than prana brions and OR ferrosis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 22:53:29 No.2048462 Report

Quoted By: >>2048464

>>2048459
They addressed the fact the blew out easily. There's a ton of pics of embaressing pics of operators doing shit with blown out crye's and was one of the biggest reasons why some guys preferred the patagonia combat sets, despite the shitty knee pads, over the crye's.

The argument I can see in this topic is softshell vs 50/50 ripstop, and tbqh, softshell is superior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 22:56:57 No.2048464 Report

Quoted By:

>>2048462
Sorry, durability has more to do with the weight of the fabric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 23:28:17 No.2049491 Report

Quoted By:

Their kneepads are the gold standard for paras in the US.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 03:13:57 No.2049700 Report

Quoted By:

I have two jackets. One a black shell for rain/snow and the other a shell with a flannel backer that I hope to eventually use for snowboarding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 13:12:26 No.2049976 Report

Quoted By:

Their hiking stuff is really good shit. I had one of their packable goretex rain jackets for a long time and it survived all sorts of places. Climbing mountains, sliding and scraping up/down volcanos, lots of really bad thunderstorms. Never made so much as a single stitch pop out. And their LEAF stuff is really good too, I wear their combat pants at work whenever I'm in the field and they have held up to 2 years of pretty hard infantry abuse.

They're a very expensive and premium brand, but when you start to put their stuff through the grinder it'll come out unscathed pretty much every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 14:57:21 No.2050014 Report

Quoted By: >>2051774

>>2044861
> if you’re seriously doing real hard work a hard shell might be better for you
huh? "hard shells" are not nearly as durable as most softshells.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 09:51:37 No.2051573 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036615
>40F
>t-shirt
sasquatch hands typed this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 09:57:37 No.2051575 Report

Quoted By: >>2052130

>>2035910
>yOu CaN fInD tHe SaMe ThInG fOr TeNtH oF tHe PrIcE
>ok, what are my alternatives?
>*no response*
The super secret chinese website knower specialist strikes again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 10:03:03 No.2051580 Report

Quoted By:

>>2038406
what's the go to for hot and wet?
usually i'm just drenched with sweat inside my jacket
i already wear merino wool underneath so i'm not too cold and it doesn't stink but i feel i can find better not overpriced rain gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:28:06 No.2051774 Report

Quoted By:

>>2050014
....yeah they are, why is /out/ so fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 23:54:23 No.2052130 Report

Quoted By: >>2052153

>>2051575
Pretty much any major outdoor brand has alternatives. You just want to feel good about overspending.

Here’s a $225 jacket at dead bird: https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/gamma-sl-hoody

Same jacket at Mountain Hardwear for about $100 cheaper: https://www.mountainhardwear.com/p/mens-chockstone-hoody-1828191.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Mar 2021 00:12:47 No.2052153 Report

Quoted By: >>2052999

>>2052130
God damn does the Gamma SL look a lot better though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Mar 2021 20:28:34 No.2052999 Report

Quoted By: >>2053760

>>2052153
they look the same to me except for the logo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Mar 2021 15:06:02 No.2053695 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036294
thats a theta AR

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Mar 2021 16:40:14 No.2053760 Report

Quoted By:

>>2052999
One has black and baby blue. The other has 5 more color options. And guaranteed the arc'teryx one fits a lot better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 01:01:50 No.2054159 Report

Quoted By:

>>2035910

I've had my outer shell for about 5 or 6 years now. It's a little tattered at the cuffs, but it's held up. Very breathable but still warm. Perfect jacket to wear over a hoodie in say...30-45 degrees. But it was like $500. I bought it to wear in the arctic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Mar 2021 05:49:31 No.2056500 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036434
Unless you do hardcore shit above treeline a lot it's probably not worth it desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Mar 2021 05:50:36 No.2056501 Report

Quoted By:

>>2036691
bruh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Mar 2021 21:28:35 No.2056987 Report

Quoted By: >>2056993 >>2057008

Arc'teryx don't excel in every item they make but I'm still a fan of some of their stuff.
Pic related - my new jacket.

I'd say Rab are a better brand in terms of value for money while still being top-tier.
I'm desperate to get Rab's Alpine Kinetic 2.0 pants and I can't see anything in Arc'teryx's range that compares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Mar 2021 21:36:10 No.2056993 Report

Quoted By:

>>2056987
Yeah Rab and Outdoor Research IMO are the comparable “not as expensive” dead bird alternatives. Saying this as a dead bird faggot shill. Those two brands are 10/10.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Mar 2021 21:52:41 No.2057008 Report

Quoted By: >>2057039

>>2056987
i own the kinetic 1.0 pants
terrible build quality but good breathability and water proof enough for winter mountaineering and medium rain.
I would love them but the elastic band broke after 5 months and there are no loops to use a belt. considering it cost me 160€ i hate RAB now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Mar 2021 22:33:40 No.2057039 Report

Quoted By: >>2057044

>>2057008
I think the 2.0 Alpine version are a good upgrade.
They use a different material and have a belt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Mar 2021 22:41:39 No.2057044 Report

Quoted By:

>>2057039
thanks, i will look into them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:12:41 No.2057280 Report

Quoted By:

>>2041780
First lite corrugate guide pants

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