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Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:24:32 No.214849 View View Reply Original Report

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What is the best caliber for taking larger deer like big white tail or mule deer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:26:28 No.214850 Report

Quoted By: >>214852 >>214909

>>214849

There is no "best".

With that said - .270, 30-06 or .308.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:27:41 No.214851 Report

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>>214849
11mm dutch
450-500 grains of lead flying at 1400fps

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Hunter !!kRHwh/oqZvS Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:28:36 No.214852 Report

Quoted By: >>214855

>>214850
Pretty much this. Though I've heard of as small as .223 being used. However, .30-06 or .308 will do just about any medium game animal in North America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:30:46 No.214855 Report

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>>214852
.223/5.56 are banned for hunting due to tendency to wound not kill aren't they?
not a hunter in any way, just things I hear on the internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:32:31 No.214859 Report

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bout tree fiddy

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Hunter !!kRHwh/oqZvS Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:35:56 No.214864 Report

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>>214855
No, it depends on the state. Like here in OK, deer is fine with anything over .22 caliber. Since .223 is larger, it's usable.
Exact regulation is this -
Rifles: Centerfire rifles firing at least a 55-grain weight soft-nosed or hollow-point bullet and having an overall cartridge case length of 1.25 inches or longer (9 mm rifles are not legal). Clips or magazines of all .22 caliber centerfire firearms may not be capable of holding more than seven rounds of ammunition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:39:52 No.214868 Report

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40×46mm M381 of course. What, are you some kind of faggot who wants to eat what he kills?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:41:13 No.214869 Report

Quoted By: >>214872 >>214873 >>214879 >>214883

>>214864
ok, since you're obviously familliar with hunting law, what's the rule on ammo limits?
I haven't quite understood this, wisconsin apparently has a 3 round capacity limit on shotgun slugs for deer hunting.
does this mean I can only have 3 rounds in the tube/1 in the chamber 2 in the tube, and that's it?
or can I have a box of ammo in the bag so long as no more than 3 shells are in the shotgun at any time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:45:29 No.214872 Report

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>>214869
not him but hunting law is state law, it "probably" means 3 total in the gun but you need to look it up. typically states provide free hunting handbooks, get one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:46:05 No.214873 Report

Quoted By: >>214880 >>214881

>>214869

3 total in the firearm = 2 in the tube and 1 chambered. Carry what you want. A lot of times with ammo limitations you'll need a plug in the gun physically limiting its magazine capacity. Most shotguns hold 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:46:40 No.214874 Report

Quoted By: >>214882 >>216507

>>214849
Are you reafy to have your mind blown?

Best mulie guide I know says .25-06 for Mule deer.

White tails, imo, .260 Rem or if you're feeling nostalgic, the good old .257 Roberts. And why NOT?

But that's just me, if you like vanilla do the .308.

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Hunter !!kRHwh/oqZvS Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:49:34 No.214879 Report

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>>214869
Usually 3 rounds means 1 chambered, 2 in the tube. You need to get a plug to limit it to 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:49:44 No.214880 Report

Quoted By: >>214883 >>214884

>>214873
plug the gun?
so, put in 3 spent shells?
or get something to put in on the other end of the mag tube spring to move the end point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:50:50 No.214881 Report

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>>214873
> total in firearm = hmmm no infinity symbol on my phn keypad

No capacity limit.

I love AZ !

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:51:03 No.214882 Report

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>>214874

I love this guy.

Stick with standard / common calibers if you want to always have an easy time finding ammo.

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Hunter !!kRHwh/oqZvS Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:52:05 No.214883 Report

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>>214869
Oh, and you can carry as many as you like.

>>214880
No, a plug is either a plastic or wooden rod that will limit the follower to only accepting 2 rounds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:53:29 No.214884 Report

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>>214880

Check out your state laws, but yes. It's generally a plastic tube or wooden dowel that reduces the interior length of the magazine tube, effectively reducing the firearms capacity.

Science, bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 04:57:11 No.214888 Report

Quoted By: >>214890

>>214882
>>214882
> mmm, vanilla
> please no spices

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:00:49 No.214890 Report

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>>214888

Don't get me wrong, I love my cinnamon...

I've got a .338 and a .454 - it's just a bitch finding food for them these days without breaking the bank.

For the Average Joe, vanilla is just fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:01:34 No.214891 Report

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>>214882
> like buying what everybody else is buying, that way there will always be some?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:03:38 No.214893 Report

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>>214849
Big boy like that? I'd hit it with a pair of .30-06s, just to be safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:05:02 No.214895 Report

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>>214882
common...
easy to find...
I have noticed the opposite for my part.
I'm thinking of finding a rifle in 30-06 because of the fact that 308 is never on the shelves, but there's always at least 10 boxes of 30-06
less popular, means it'll sill be there in a worst case scenario. if you wanna vanish innawoods, you need a caliber you can buy large amounts of in a SHTF scenario due to the fact nobody else wants it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:05:10 No.214896 Report

Quoted By: >>214901

>>214891

Go check the shelves. Everybody stocks common calibers, because they sell. Ammo manufacturers produce more because they sell . Supply and demand.

Science, bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:06:24 No.214898 Report

Quoted By: >>214903

>>214890
For me at least, when I feed my .375 win, .218 bee, .25-06 AI,.35 rem or .45-70 I bake at home.

All the vanilla eats at home, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:08:18 No.214900 Report

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>>214895

Agreed, .308 has been tough. 30-06 is about as common as you can get, it's been around forever, hence the quantity available.

I wonder if lack of .308 and the fact that it's used by military have anything in common...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:09:06 No.214901 Report

Quoted By: >>214904

>>214896
> yeah, the shelves are never bare

Eyes bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:10:00 No.214903 Report

Quoted By: >>214924

>>214898

That's a whole new hobby. How much was your setup?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:12:54 No.214904 Report

Quoted By: >>214912 >>214924

>>214901

That's depressing then. While ammo has been tough, it's absolutely getting better. And I live in NY! Certain calibers have freed up tremendously, but .308, .22, .22 mag and .17 HMR are still difficult to get your hands on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:17:02 No.214907 Report

Quoted By: >>214913 >>214914

fuck off you small dicked hunterfags

Ricotta Elmar !/J1QYpS5Eo

Ricotta Elmar !/J1QYpS5Eo Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:17:34 No.214908 Report

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>>214849
7.62x54r.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:21:08 No.214909 Report

Quoted By: >>214928

>>214850

.25-06 is pretty solid.

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Hunter !!kRHwh/oqZvS Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:23:56 No.214912 Report

Quoted By: >>214915

>>214904
Ammo here is still hit and miss.
.17HMR is plentiful, but .22lr is usually a no go, or overpriced.
.308 is spotty, but so is .30-06 now (our deer season is coming up).
.22mag is still on the shelves. 9mm, .40S&W, and .45ACP are making a comeback too.
I'd still like to see more .22lr drop though, I haven't been able to buy bulk ammo in about a year - there's a lot of squirrels and crows in need of killing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:24:58 No.214913 Report

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>>214907

My wiener is actually closer to average.

Thanks.

Oh, yeah , BTW - grow a pair. This is what man does, he hunts. Always has. Always will. If you don't, you stay back at the village with the women, children, and the old folk.

Science, bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:26:43 No.214914 Report

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>>214907
>this insult again
Doesn't it get boring using the exact same insult time and time again? Your lack of wit is actually depressing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:28:24 No.214915 Report

Quoted By: >>214917

>>214912

Where you from?

I manage a sporting goods store in CNY, and we've had bricks of CCI for weeks. I limit it to one box a customer, but people understand.

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Hunter !!kRHwh/oqZvS Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:31:18 No.214917 Report

Quoted By: >>214918 >>216871

>>214915
Oklahoma. Most all of our funstores and big stores have ammo limits 1-3 per person, and it is still gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:35:37 No.214918 Report

Quoted By: >>214922

>>214917

We have to. Otherwise some assclown will remortgage his house, come in and buy all my ammo, then sell it on gun broker and triple his money. And then we deal with all the pissed off customers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:39:16 No.214919 Report

Quoted By: >>214921

>>214849

use .50 cal, less is for pussies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:40:53 No.214921 Report

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>>214919

.500 Tyrannasaur.

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Hunter !!kRHwh/oqZvS Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:41:02 No.214922 Report

Quoted By: >>214923

>>214918
It's happening here. My local place I spend a good amount of time in has quit selling to some people that they know are reselling. They went up a little in price, basically passing on the cost increase from suppliers, but they haven't double or tripled the cost on anything, maybe a 10-20% increase on some calibers.
Like the boxes of $2.79 .22lr, now cost $3.50.
It's not a lot, but it's still there.
The ones they found out were reselling they cut off though. They were taking those $3.50 boxes and selling them for $8.
It's stupid that people would buy like that, but they did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:44:58 No.214923 Report

Quoted By: >>214930

>>214922

Definitely. Half the problem are the idiots that pay these ridiculous prices. I know it's tough when you need gun food, but it just perpetuates the cycle. There were people buying bricks of CCI .22 at a gun show back in January for $100. I'd kill myself first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:46:03 No.214924 Report

Quoted By: >>214926

>>214903
Start small. I just know this is gonna pay off sooner or later!! ;)

Thing is (right now) primer availability.

WAYeasier to find srp (small rifle primers) than to find .218 bee factory ammo. The idea being, you own the quality control, odd carts are no problem,ACCURACY!, cost per round. All this adds up to me sitting on 10k srp, 5k lrp, some odd spp (a litte low...'cause I SHOOT!) and various powders, projevctiles and different styles and weights.

All in all, I also cast "projos" and am getting into air guns, just to broaden my spectrum. ...plus muh sling shot!

>>214904
That's tough, in '08, .17 hummer was about the only rimfire on the shelves.

Next up; last "huge pile" I saw was .300 Blackout, of all things! Odd calibers aren't all that bad... unless you're a .218 bee whore, like me!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:49:18 No.214926 Report

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>>214924

I've been toying around with the thought of starting. Maybe I'll pony up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:50:58 No.214928 Report

Quoted By: >>214929

>>214909
> shoots like a stretched string.

And a nice pill.

No lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:52:20 No.214929 Report

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>>214928

F'n right, doggie.

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Hunter !!kRHwh/oqZvS Wed 23 Oct 2013 05:56:34 No.214930 Report

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>>214923
Yeah, I might be willing to pay $30 for a brick, but nothing higher. It's why I haven't been out squirrel, rabbit, and crow hunting at all this year.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 07:09:53 No.214952 Report

Quoted By: >>214961 >>216516

>Only people who argue over the best caliber are those who can't hit the vitals

I've been using a 30-30 "coyotes friend round" for years. Have yet to loose a deer and the ones that do run don't get far at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Oct 2013 07:34:24 No.214961 Report

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>>214952
> well, there's 30 yrds and there's 80 yrds.

NRA Service Rifle starts at 200 yards, so depending on ability, there's some that need a mite more than a flat point can do.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 22:44:59 No.215579 Report

Quoted By: >>215585

According to the writers at Field&Stream the 270 Winchester is the best all around caliber of North American big game.

Antelope, Big Horn Sheep, Boar, White Tail, Black Tail, Mule Deer, Elk, Bear, even Moose have all be taken with a 270.

In all actuality and 30 caliber is perfect, hell even 243 is Ok for deer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 23:11:00 No.215585 Report

Quoted By: >>218131

>>215579
The 7x64 Brenneke wipes the floor with the .270. And is better than the .280 Remington for that matter; .280 AI is about the only "all-purpose" cartridge that can give it a run for its money.

If you're going to be buying a nice new general-purpose rifle and reloading anyway, I'd just get a CZ in 7x64.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 00:26:24 No.215603 Report

Quoted By: >>216448

I dislike hunting with anything other than a 20 gauge.

>People who don't deer hunt with 20 gauge slugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 16:26:51 No.215836 Report

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Anything bigger than a .22lr, anything smaller than .300win

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 11:28:42 No.216448 Report

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>>215603
M8, I live in TN with open fields and shit. I'll use a shotgun when I'm in the thick woods in the UP, but either a 6.8 or a .270 here in TN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 14:07:54 No.216464 Report

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7mm Remington magnum. Shoots very flat. It's a little spendy though. Bullet weights are comparable to .308, but they are longer and narrower. 140-180 grains is usually specified in reloading manuals, depending on your intended target, range, and powder charge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 14:09:21 No.216465 Report

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>all these rifle calibers

Indiana here, i jelly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 14:30:37 No.216472 Report

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30-06 or 308 is my top pick for an all around hunting rifle for large game. You can go after elk or moose with this as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 15:55:52 No.216507 Report

Quoted By: >>216509

>>214874
>those shitty random cartridges
Why would you use a .260 or a .257 and limit yourself with such shitty rounds?

25-06 is a great deer round, 30-06 is the best all around I feel.

If you want a rando-deer-blaster that rapes faces on medium game you need a 7x57 Mauser. Best deer rifle I've ever shot and I own close to 40 rifles. (including a .260 that I never use because it's so fucking underwhelming).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 16:06:12 No.216509 Report

Quoted By: >>216513

>>216507
> implying the .257 Roberts isn't a 7x57 necked down to quarter bore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 16:13:40 No.216513 Report

Quoted By: >>216973

>>216509
>implying it's not inferior in every way
Enjoy barely being able to knock down whitetails much less a muley.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 16:23:06 No.216516 Report

Quoted By: >>216524

>>214952
30-30 has killed more whitetail than any other caliber. It's my favorite brush gun, furthest shot on a deer I've taken with it was 90 yards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 16:33:38 No.216524 Report

Quoted By: >>216556

>>216516
Plus, lever actions are the shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 17:17:28 No.216556 Report

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>>216524
That they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2013 21:33:39 No.216654 Report

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>>214849
I would think anything from .270 to 45-70. But that's just my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:10:06 No.216865 Report

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Sabot slug. 12 gauge 3"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:01:30 No.216870 Report

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>>214849
My sister and I got remington 30-06`s last Christmas. Great guns havn`t had a chance to get out and hunt yet this season

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:03:11 No.216871 Report

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>>214917
Hi fellow Okie. 918?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:08:41 No.216872 Report

Quoted By: >>216973 >>218208

>>>/k/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 13:04:17 No.216973 Report

Quoted By: >>217127

>>216513
> implying < 200 fps is "inferior in EVERY" way

>>216872
You can just FO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 18:46:02 No.217127 Report

Quoted By: >>218138

>>216973
>implying being inferior is not being inferior
It's slower, carries less KE, etc.

7x57 is hard to find but handloaders and custom gun makers love it because the load can go hot as hell and move the fuck out.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 19:14:45 No.218131 Report

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>>215585
Well I don't know where you hunt but I have not seen much 7x64 Brenneke in my local sporting good store.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 19:36:53 No.218138 Report

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>>217127

> implying 200fsp in same weight bullet = = big deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 23:14:48 No.218208 Report

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>>216872
>tfw when this actually more /k/ than /k/ actually is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2013 02:22:29 No.218282 Report

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>>214849
West Virginia anon reporting in
Generally, when it comes to calibers heres how it goes for the best chance of a quick, humane takedown

.243 at smallest
30-06 is generally the biggest you wanna go around here
>Also
>.270
>.7mm-08
>7mm Rem Mag
>7.62x54R
>7.62x39
>.308
>.303

Havn't heard of any other calibers being used widely
.223 can do the job, but most people stay away from it.

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