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Snowshoes suck

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 16:53:03 No.2285679 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2285680 >>2285768 >>2287186 >>2287555 >>2287557 >>2287595 >>2287755 >>2287977 >>2288013 >>2288234 >>2289294

what are they supposed to accomplish? They don't stop me from sinking into snow, which then falls on top of them and makes each step heavier. And if you're not supposed to use them on deep snow, then just get boots with decent treads.

Am I doing it wrong or something? I hate this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 16:53:59 No.2285680 Report

Quoted By: >>2285691

>>2285679
How fat are you that snowshoes don't work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 17:00:19 No.2285691 Report

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>>2285680
6', 185 lbs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 17:02:46 No.2285693 Report

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You're either too fat or using wrong kind of snowshoes in the wrong terrain. Probably both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 17:16:51 No.2285705 Report

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snowshoes are at their worst during hard or soft deep snow while wearing a backpack
they´re at their best during hard snow while pulling a sled or a light backpack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 17:32:15 No.2285713 Report

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i feel similarly about snow shoes - they're heavy, as fuck, and they don't really work that well

But if you have to bust through some seriously deep snow, nothing else will really work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 19:15:30 No.2285768 Report

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>>2285679
Skis work better anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 20:50:54 No.2285809 Report

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I snow shoe solely for larping purposes. It can make moving around off trail a bit easier I guess, but it’s a pain in the ass to bring with and put them on. I’ve noticed shorter people have a harder time with them. You need a wide stance and long stride for it to be effective.

Went along with a short friend who wanted to try once, had to wait for him to catch up constantly and watched as a couple holding hands on a romantic stroll passed him by in mid level hikers. As he huffed and puffed from all the effort it took to lift his legs high enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 20:54:54 No.2285811 Report

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you need bigger snow shoes. trust me. I've never even been in snow.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 22:19:47 No.2285850 Report

Quoted By: >>2285870 >>2287449

Snowshoes like picrel work. The little aluminum shoes you see at REI are crap.
The only time snowshoes are needed is when snow is deeper than you can lift your feet when walking, that is, when you can't move forward without pushing snow.
Snowshoes aren't built for fun. They are a crapload of work. Snowshoes are built so you can maybe probably, if you really have to, move across a few miles of crotch deep snow.
I own a pair, had to wear them and pull a sled at work to sample monitoring wells in 3' of snow. No way would I fuck around with them in less than 18". Haven't needed to use them in several years, and that is just okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jan 2022 22:50:19 No.2285870 Report

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>>2285850
damn my legs get weak and sore just walking a couple blocks down my street, id probably die using snow shoes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 02:24:01 No.2286018 Report

Quoted By: >>2286099 >>2286116

>>2285870
It's almost like walking in water, but more demoralizing because you can step up high, put your foot down, and it will sink waaay down in the snow, so much wasted effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 05:49:31 No.2286099 Report

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>>2286018
This. If you’re not in shape, it becomes exhausting immediately. I’ve watched many people completely wear out in well under half a mile because of how low you sink. Moving fast helps but then you’re practically running. Snow shoeing is a larp unless you’re in a tundra

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 06:04:13 No.2286108 Report

Quoted By: >>2286113 >>2286635 >>2290941

Just use XC skis wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 06:16:31 No.2286113 Report

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>>2286108
This. Much faster and reliable. Actual useful skill + good workout

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 06:21:27 No.2286116 Report

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>>2286018
I think a better comparison is walking in sand.

What's fun is the first time you fall over, put your hands out in front of you to catch yourself, your hands posthole into the snow, and you land on your belly with your arms stuck out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:46:54 No.2286635 Report

Quoted By: >>2286877 >>2290941

>>2286108
Don’t skis typically require special boots? I couldn’t imagine wanting to wear those heavy ass things anywhere other than the skis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 21:02:22 No.2286643 Report

Quoted By: >>2286739

>>2285870
Fattie or cripple?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 21:48:33 No.2286658 Report

Quoted By: >>2286815 >>2286909 >>2287050 >>2287554 >>2287659 >>2290710 >>2290967

ITT: LARPers who've never used snowshoes. I walked 700m elevation today with snowshoes. One part was over 50 degree elevations, you couldn't walk there with normal boots during the summer but with snowshoes it was possible. The snow today was very powdery so I sank in 15cm max (would be 50cm with normal boots if not more). Yes it is exhausting especially going uphill, but it's great being able to walk anywhere you want

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 23:30:36 No.2286739 Report

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>>2286643
neither

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 01:15:48 No.2286815 Report

Quoted By: >>2286911

>>2286658
>over 50 degree elevations

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 03:25:29 No.2286877 Report

Quoted By: >>2287267

>>2286635
Yes they do, but only DH boots are big and heavy. XC boots are light and not that different to hiking boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 05:24:22 No.2286909 Report

Quoted By: >>2286914 >>2290941

>>2286658
so what's the trick? Do you use larger snowshoes, is there some special way to set your foot down or something? Is it only useful in deep snow or shallow snow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 05:27:14 No.2286911 Report

Quoted By: >>2287189

>>2286815
or steepness idk what it's called, i'm esl. At least I speak more than one language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 05:30:16 No.2286914 Report

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>>2286909
No they're not large at all and there's no trick really. You still sink in, just much less than you would with normal boots. They're very useful for steep inclines like I said, because you can kick into the hill and create a sort of step, which allows you to walk up very steep hills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 12:20:11 No.2287050 Report

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>>2286658
Only good post here.
Snowshoes make traveling deep snow easier than by foot, they cant magically let the snow dissappear. Longest trip in snowshoes was 2200 vertical meters, 25 km for me, people here are just very out of shape.
Personally if there is significant exposure below, I dont use snowshoes for slopes over 40 degrees or so

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 14:45:26 No.2287186 Report

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>>2285679
have you ever post holed a bunch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 14:46:54 No.2287189 Report

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>>2286911
based ESL larper

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 15:48:28 No.2287219 Report

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i used to hate snow shoes when id go do it on groomed trails or whatever as an activity it always felt like
>gee this would be way easier without giant paddles strapped to my feet
but now that i live out in the boonies with more remote trails i love them
especially fun to go with another person to take turns leading and breaking the trail

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 17:00:06 No.2287267 Report

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>>2286877
I'm a wannabe Backcountry enjoyer and just bought my first splitboard. Does skinning up with a splitboard have the same difficulty factor as with snow shoes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:43:57 No.2287449 Report

Quoted By: >>2287450

>>2285850
>Sampling monitoring wells
Geologists and envi sci guys seem like the last people who /out/ for a living

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:55:49 No.2287450 Report

Quoted By: >>2287591

>>2287449
I don't think he does go outside, given that everything he posted about snowshoes was incorrect. That or he is fat as shit. Not sure which is more likely...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 00:41:32 No.2287554 Report

Quoted By: >>2290710

>>2286658
Based MSR enjoyer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 00:43:48 No.2287555 Report

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>>2285679
Your snowshoes are probably too small for you. What do you have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 00:45:50 No.2287557 Report

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>>2285679
From the top of my head
>Walking incorrectly
>Wrong kind of snowshoes
>Too fucking fat
Said all that, skis are much better anyway. Snowshoes are mostly for larp, since they are for short-distance trek (like 10 miles or so) when you absolutely MUST walk right here and now in some shitty weather. So there is also a good chance you decided to walk in them for like whole day and got surprised they "don't work".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 01:41:00 No.2287591 Report

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>>2287450
Knowing geologists it's probably the latter. I use those symmetrical aluminum ones for similar duties and while it's certainly not easier than bare ground it's a hell of a lot better than stomping through with boots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 01:47:12 No.2287595 Report

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>>2285679
I'm with ya bud. I'm 5'8 and they're awkward as fuck to try walking around in, not fun or tactical at all. Much prefer some wide boots, snowboarding boots are actually pretty good for winter hiking.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:28:11 No.2287659 Report

Quoted By: >>2288239

>>2286658
This. Anyone who doesn’t think snowshoes work doesn’t do a lot of winter hiking. I was out for 20.5 miles and 6000’ elevation gain today with snowshoes on the entire day. Would have made for a miserable day without snowshoes. You just need the right type for your terrain. Something with heel lifts for mountainous terrains, and something with max floatation for open forest rolling hills that have deep snow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 06:42:13 No.2287755 Report

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>>2285679
I have used snowshoes just fine with a heavy pack and 4 feet of fresh powder. You are doing something wrong. Saved my ass many a time when I thought 'do I really need the extra weight?' Then you bring them and instead of slogging through waist deep snow miserably, you effortless trounce on the top going 10x the speed. It's great.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 18:44:20 No.2287977 Report

Quoted By: >>2289416

>>2285679
You need to pick the right size for your weight, anon. If you're consistently sinking, you're better off going up a size or two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 19:26:50 No.2288013 Report

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>>2285679
they're supposed to accomplish moving around efficiently on terrain that's
>too rocky/steep to ski on
>with sow that can't be trudged through at a reasonable pace
you're right, there isn't much travel that meets that niche

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jan 2022 01:46:00 No.2288234 Report

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>>2285679
Good 1-2 feet deep of fresh snow, other than that I’d rather hike with boots or cross country ski

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jan 2022 01:59:45 No.2288239 Report

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>>2287659
It's mostly insufferable ski faggots who look down on snowshoeing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jan 2022 18:34:43 No.2289208 Report

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The only way you can think snowshoe are useless is if you've never walked in snow.
You just have to realise that walking in snow will always be harder than walking on pavement no matter what, but you wouldn't know if you're a basement larper.
Sometimes conditions are so difficult that even with snowshoe you can barely walk. It doesn't mean snowshoe are useless, in these same conditions without them you couldn't even move forward at all.
Even on moderately packed snow it's usually easier to walk with snowshoe because they prevent the front of the shoe from sinking/sliding back 10cm at every step.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jan 2022 20:48:30 No.2289294 Report

Quoted By: >>2289320

>>2285679
>what are they supposed to accomplish?
Floatation, at a lower price than skis. Except prize, skill (you just walk) and grip on ice (but ski crampons exist), I can't see any clear advantage to snow shoes over skis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jan 2022 21:58:34 No.2289320 Report

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>>2289294
>(you just walk)
As is the case with skis also, in /out/ context at least. You only do any "sliding" on either a managed path or when the weather's been above zero for some time and then suddenly frozen again to create just the right surface on snow. Other than that, it's really just walking on the snow with sticks in your hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:34:10 No.2289413 Report

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It really depends on the snow. They worked really well for me in the mountains of British Columbia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:35:11 No.2289416 Report

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>>2287977
>race
what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jan 2022 05:27:11 No.2290138 Report

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SHOES STUCK, SHOES STUCK

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jan 2022 23:48:38 No.2290710 Report

Quoted By: >>2290952

>>2286658
>>2287554
Really happy with my Lightning Ascents so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jan 2022 09:35:17 No.2290941 Report

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>>2286108
Nordic skies suck if you need to fit in very tight places or deal with steep hills. I Nordic ski recreationally all the time, but when I need to work in tight corners (like going into an out of the animal barns) or climb real hills, I prefer snowshoes. Serious distance on moderate to low hills, though, Nordic skis can't be beat. I use my skis to go ice fishing and also to collect maple sap.
>>2286635
You can get bindings that just strap onto your regular boots, that's what I use.
>>2286909
If the snow's not over your knees, just posthole. If the snow is over your knees, you'll sink less than you would otherwise, so the snowshoes will help your stride. Large snowshoes are best for soft snow. I weigh 95 kilos and my deep snow set is 80 cm long and 30 cm wide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jan 2022 10:32:50 No.2290952 Report

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>>2290710
I've heard a lot of good things about the Lightning Ascents. One of my snowshoe straps broke yesterday so I'm looking to upgrade after getting a few years of use out of these $50 budget snowshoes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jan 2022 11:03:49 No.2290959 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcXVPVt8fyA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jan 2022 11:36:36 No.2290967 Report

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>>2286658
This. They make impassable terrain passable. It still ain’t fun and it is exhausting, but at least you become mobile.
Try moving in 2-3 feet of snow without them and you will immediately understand what makes them useful.

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