>>2346690Based gladio enjoyers.
>>2346108Hey man here's the shit. OLD surp is bad because old shit is often not built for the new comfort levels. This si surp and old commercial civilian stuff. Everyone thinks surp = used. Not true.
What you should do is look for civilian engineered shit FOR the military that is modern. No longer surp but secondhand or buying new.
Mystery Ranch, is the go to example of this. For me it's crossfire, one of the comfiest bags ever made. Even under retard high loads.
There are lots of military options that are NOT surplus but surplus modern does also happen. Don't do the alice and overload, it's bad for your back. But do take the alice over say, an Osprey shit stain. In the end what you might want to do is look for second hand currunt issued stuff. Filbe's are great. You can get em for like 150usd and they work. It'll be softer than the ALICE that's for sure but still has a plastic frame. Some plastic frames are shit but better than nothing. Hillpeople gear and Kifaru for non direct civ mil designs. Deuter, Lowe Alpine and ALPS are good as is Emberlestock. Have a look at those and see if you can't get a good deal before resorting to OLD surp. Which is better than ledditor shit but only because it lasts. I would say try for ALPS personally.
TL:DR It did serve, it served well, there's better non surp still military options that are good. Get those.
