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Backpacking Quilt Thread

Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 14:29:20 No.2411080 View View Reply Original Report

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Thinking of Getting a backpacking quilt to replace my mummy bag. Deciding between Thermarest Vesper 20 and the Enlightened Equipment Enigma 20. I can get the Vesper 20 for about $250 while the Enigma would be like $350. Is the EE worth the extra cash?

Do you all prefer bags or quilts? What's are your experiences with quilts are they worth it?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 14:32:52 No.2411081 Report

Quoted By: >>2411084

>>2411080
neither, UGQ or Feathered Friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 14:40:31 No.2411084 Report

Quoted By: >>2411811

>>2411081
UGQ's website fucking blows.

Feathered Friends quilt options look lackluster honestly. Their bags look way better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 14:49:58 No.2411090 Report

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>>2411080
quilts are great. definitely go for the vesper at that price - it's slightly lighter than the EE too

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 15:25:39 No.2411114 Report

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Do people use liners with quilts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 16:00:25 No.2411145 Report

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>>2411080
HAHAHAHA hahahahaha. a seperate little baggy to put your pillow in, how cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 22:00:14 No.2411410 Report

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>>2411080
Try the hammockgear economy burrow. 850 down, 20º, and around 220. Just make sure to get the wide for ground sleeping. I have a EE from Massdrop and much prefer the burrow.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 23:21:24 No.2411463 Report

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 00:09:37 No.2411495 Report

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>>2411080
Just get a synthetic EE for 205.00 bucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 00:22:11 No.2411503 Report

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>>2411463
What do I search to find this tarp pad hybrid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 00:23:39 No.2411505 Report

Quoted By: >>2411838

>>2411080
Wool blanket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 00:31:40 No.2411509 Report

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>>2411114
I do, I’m a hammock. I use a rectangular shape since it does t have to fit in a bag but gives me little extra space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 00:34:59 No.2411511 Report

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>>2411503
Anon made that themselves from scratch from what I gather from prior threads. I'm now aware of a company that makes anything similar

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 09:15:21 No.2411779 Report

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>>2411511
thank fuck finally someone, ahaha but yeah shit wild. preciate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 11:50:11 No.2411811 Report

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>>2411080
Check loft and fill for comparison. Willing to bet the vesper is traditionally rated for 20 being limit while the EE is probably closer to comfort rating for most.

>>2411084
Flicker is nice but it's not a quilt, its a hoodless bag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 12:52:51 No.2411835 Report

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>>2411114
no I use bed clothes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 12:54:13 No.2411838 Report

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>>2411505
yes that's the poorfag impractical solution

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 13:24:40 No.2411852 Report

Quoted By: >>2411858 >>2412225

>>2411080
Are quilts just a richfag luxury or is there something to them? I slept in one and mildly preferred it to a bag but they seem like they have a very bad price to performance ratio compared to sleeping bags. Also the "loft underneath you is useless" thing is actually just wrong, especially if your sleeping pad has any sort of baffles (inflatable) or divots (foam) in it.
Assume I'm only talking about ground sleeping not hammocks in this post, I know quilts are good for hammocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 13:41:35 No.2411858 Report

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>>2411852
I’m guessing your a fat fuck larper who hiked maybe 3 miles so weight didn’t matter at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 13:54:03 No.2411863 Report

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>>2411503
Here is how you do it:
>Get 2 hanks of canvas tent fabric
>Stuff pool floats between layers
>For whatever reason, use grommets meant for truck tarps to hold the two layers down. I guess in case of huge wind you need to batten down your hatches.
>Sew around the pool floats to hold in place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 13:56:39 No.2411864 Report

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>>2411858
Couldn't be more wrong but okay.
Doesn't even really make sense from a weight perspective. I'm looking at mummy bags and quilts from the same companies with the same temp rating, fill power+weight and the difference is about 3oz. Seems like a wash for weight after you consider needing a higher r value pad and the sleeping pad straps that ground sleepers use with their quilts, and the mummy bag being warmer than the equivalent quilt.
I'm fine if quilts are paying a premium for better side sleeping, but is there anything more to it if I'm not a warm sleeper?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 14:09:49 No.2411874 Report

Quoted By: >>2411953 >>2412225 >>2412833

>>2411864
The insulation under you is just much less efficient, the extent of that depends on what it is. Something highly compressible like down drops to about 0 when on anything that your body conforms to, like most inflatable pads.

I prefer quilts because I am a warm sleeper who moves around a lot. Quilts are easier to vent from, and they allow more freedom of movement.
You don't need pad straps and you don't need more R in your pad, so the 3oz is 3oz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 17:15:33 No.2411953 Report

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>>2411874
I'd say it's more a matter of comfort anyway, you have much more freedom of movement with a quilt than when youre stuck in a mummy sleeping bag.
But in my experience just opening your sleeping bag (keeping only the toebox closed) and using it upside down is almost the same as a quilt and you can still close it if you need more warmth.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 01:37:51 No.2412225 Report

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>>2411080
I have a Thermarest Neo Xlite large and use a Vaude alpstein quilt when it's cold and a chink Miltec poncho liner in summer.
It's just more comfy if you can put out a leg to cool off. Quilt over sleeping bag every time.

>>2411114
I have a sheet for the sleeping pad and a cottone liner which i only use in the cold really.

>>2411463
I apologize for this spergs autism. Please don't engage.

>>2411852
I don't understand why they are that pricey either. They are more comfy tho.

>>2411874
Yes, but why are quilts more costly than sleeping bags then? It's a very valid question, methinks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 05:15:05 No.2412833 Report

Quoted By: >>2413133 >>2413136

>>2411874
>The insulation under you is just much less efficient, the extent of that depends on what it is
This is an urban legend. There's room to loft in the baffle design of most sleeping pads. Some pad designs yeah it's true, most of them not really. I tested it myself in a pretty similar way this guy uses to test R value: https://youtu.be/e2H8EYHvF3U?t=790
>I prefer quilts because I am a warm sleeper who moves around a lot.
Yeah me too, I totally get the appeal because I roll around in my sleep, it's just a tough pill to swallow when you're budget conscious.
Thinking about it more theoretically from my limited experience with quilts, they might have a genuine advantage in wet conditions in single wall tents because you're a lot less likely to get that footbox wet. Quiltfags is this true in practice? An advantage like that might get me to pull the trigger.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 15:51:38 No.2413133 Report

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>>2412833
>Yeah me too, I totally get the appeal because I roll around in my sleep, it's just a tough pill to swallow when you're budget conscious.
If you don't mind weight and volume get a regular sleeping blanket:
https://www.amazon.de/sleepling-190045-Mikrofaser-Baumwolle-Mischgewebe/dp/B01F25E54E/
The filling is polyester, just make sure the fabric that touches your skin contains some cotton. Cheaper variants have microfober fabric, which is think feels sticky. I personally like to pull the blanket over my head, i'm 190cm, so the 155x220cm is perfect.
Weight is 1,3kg at that size.

Perfect spring/summer/fall quilt i think, double them for European winter, tripple for very cold winter. If you insist, you could dye it into your favorite color and add strings to form a foot box.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 15:53:26 No.2413136 Report

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>>2412833
>single wall tents
Never. That is all i can say.
And it doesn't matter, sleeping bag and quilt will touch the walls, unless your tent is huge.

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