>>2421860>>2421868>extra shit>unnecessarydepends on what kind of backpack you are wearing. on a frameless pack the sit or sleep pad can be your pack's frame so its actually the opposite of being extra shit, its turning an otherwise normally useless-for-anything-else part of your backpack (since a non frameless pack would have a frame and padding) and making it multi purpose.
i can see how you'd have that kneejerk/gut reaction but its not always correct.
i do agree with you when it comes to carrying them with framed backpacks though. they're unnecessary and a plastic square is both lighter weight, more compact, fits in a fanny pack or belt pouch, and can serve 3482438 multi uses.
if i want to sit and chill somewhere with my plastic square and have it be comfy i can usually just gather some shit in the woods to make somewhere comfy and padded to sit and put the plastic over it so my ass doesn't get wet.
>>2421868>instead of just sitting on your sleeping bag and mat, or sitting on the ground, a rock, a log, or standing.yeah if you live in a dry climate and you never hike in the winter.
lmao sitting on your sleeping bag or really even taking it out of your pack without being under a tarp like that will end the trip even possibly get you killed if you don't have satellite shit and you're too far out on probably half the trips i do in the winter. gotta think that one through more lol. you might live in a dry area and not winter backpack but every single one of the things in your list are only really options to sit on 1 season out of the year in my climate. kinda hard to sometimes but i always try to consider not everyone's idea of backpacking and not everyone's climate is the same.
i do agree with sentiment though. small plastic square > sit pad unless the sit pad is serving as your backpack's frame.
