>>243783>either Northface, fashion brand mostly. They do have some stuff thats OK, if you can get it for cheap, but i wouldnt want to have to rely on TNF for "critical" outerwear.
>OR,Supposdly quite good
>Mountain Hardwear, My hardshells from them rock (but they are all quite old, so dont know if their current quality is still the same, but given that they did not move fully into fashion territory the chances that they are still good is quite high.
However i had a softshell from them, back when softshells were a new thing, and that was crap. Built quality was fine, but the fabric was 100% windproof gore windstopper. Nothing came in, nothing came out. If you started moving, you got cooked…
>or Marmot.I like their gloves
Personal fav softshell:
Arcteryx Gamma SV.
Mine is from 2004 and now it slowly starts to show some wear, after multiple climbing trips and field trips from the artic to the tropics.
dont know how much they got worse, now that they have all their manufacturing in china too.