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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 06:24:04 No.2519463 View View Reply Original Report

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I've been taking Americans' gear recommendations seriously for years now and only now I find out that the big trails all the thru-hikers talk about just look like this

what the hell

this is just walking on a well-maintained road for a really long time

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 06:28:34 No.2519465 Report

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>>2519463
yes, footing is the only important consideration when /out/

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 06:31:50 No.2519467 Report

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>>2519463
Based shitposter, posting low effort obvious bait.
See you at the 300 mark :^)

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 06:48:31 No.2519475 Report

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>>2519463
>poorly structured 3rdworlder seethe
You'll be better at this if you calm down first, never good mind you, your geographic handicap will always be there, but you can be better.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 08:02:53 No.2519497 Report

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>>2519465
>>2519467
>>2519475
sorry i just really didn't know that even American hiking trails had to be navigable by mobility scooter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 08:16:03 No.2519503 Report

Quoted By: >>2519552

>>2519463
Get off the trail?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 08:36:02 No.2519513 Report

Quoted By: >>2519518

>>2519463
>average burger male weights 240lb
>average burger female weights 210lb
Dude they're all overweight and half the population is considered obese so what the well were you expecting? Their national parks are massive parking lots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 08:44:07 No.2519517 Report

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They get a lot of foot traffic so they look like that. Also these trails were made to walk between towns. Google has been hiking a lot of trails, they did in my city of 35,000, so look before you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 08:49:30 No.2519518 Report

Quoted By: >>2519608

>>2519513
you've either not been to the parks or you're admitting that you don't really leave your car. either way, typical /out/ poster

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 08:51:00 No.2519520 Report

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>>2519497
damn. epic shitposting, /int/ bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 11:50:32 No.2519552 Report

Quoted By: >>2519744 >>2523374

>>2519503
Thru hikers usually do and they rent hotel rooms and eat 5000 calories of goyslop in one sitting. That isn't a solid thru hike yet every book written about the AT in the past few decades is by a LARPer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 13:26:56 No.2519583 Report

Quoted By: >>2519981

>>2519463
Now you know why they tell you that trail runners are all you need when /out/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 14:39:43 No.2519608 Report

Quoted By: >>2519609 >>2519632

>>2519518
They aren't called national parking lots for nothing.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 14:41:18 No.2519609 Report

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>>2519608
Based larper
this is a nu-out thread

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:14:42 No.2519632 Report

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>>2519608
>proving my point

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 17:45:50 No.2519703 Report

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>>2519497
1. What do you think is going to happen with such a heavily trafficked trail?
2. You would never make it the length of that trail on an unimproved surface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 18:56:17 No.2519744 Report

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>>2519552
most hotel stays on pct are because of the wild fires in cali blocking you from advancing for a while.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:24:18 No.2519756 Report

Quoted By: >>2519779 >>2520116 >>2524831

>>2519463
that's what you get for taking anonymous advice. even outside of these boards, most people are weekend LARPers at best. you don't need 75% of the "gear" people say you need, just basic common sense survival skills, and minimalist gear. bubba and cleetus can "solo" all these trails in $20 rain boots and a t-shirt. going off-trail is where it gets interesting, otherwise you're just passing by tourists all day long on a maintained trail in the "wilderness."

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:29:48 No.2519758 Report

Quoted By: >>2519760 >>2521885

you can drive a jeep through most of the shit in the west, and in the east you're never that far from fresh drinking water. if you die in the us in a national park of anything other than falling off a cliff, you belong at a desk. the days of "survival" or "frontiersmen" are over and only LARPing remains.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:33:46 No.2519760 Report

Quoted By: >>2519764

>>2519758
> if you die in the us in a national park of anything other than falling off a cliff, you belong at a desk
Because hypothermia isn't a thing?

>the days of "survival" or "frontiersmen" are over and only LARPing remains.
Maybe if you exclude the entirety of Canada and Alaska.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:58:39 No.2519764 Report

Quoted By: >>2519767 >>2519769

>>2519760
hypothermia is a result of poor clothing and terrain research. aka common sense failure. you don't need a $300 jacket from REI, they didn't have those in the 1700s.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:03:27 No.2519767 Report

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>>2519764
When I see gearfags sperging out I remind myself that Nanga Parbat - an 8000'er - was first-ascended in leather boots (pic related). Obviously improvements have been made since (the biggest one being waterproof & breathable fabrics) but most of it does indeed boil down to common sense.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:14:23 No.2519769 Report

Quoted By: >>2519776

>>2519764
> you don't need a $300 jacket from REI, they didn't have those in the 1700s.
The jackets they wore in the 1700s in northern climates would have been made of fur and/or thick wool, which by today's standards would run in the hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:19:05 No.2519770 Report

Quoted By: >>2519819 >>2524601

>>2519767
>common sense.
Common sense is only common to those who are experienced and knowledgeable. Which is to say, it's not all that common at all. Everyone has to start somewhere. No one is born knowing that cotton as a base layer is dangerous. No one instinctively knows how to read a topographical map. People's biggest mistake is overestimating their abilities and knowledge, and being above proper education.

/out/ is a perfect example of this attitude. How many times have you gotten in an argument with an anon who clearly has no idea what they're talking about, and yet has the hubris of an expert? Those are the sorts of people who you hear about getting lost and freezing to death in national parks alongside their entire family.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:21:24 No.2519776 Report

Quoted By: >>2519784 >>2523763

>>2519769
Yeah but people shot the animals and made the coats themselves back then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:28:05 No.2519779 Report

Quoted By: >>2519826

>>2519756
>bubba and cleetus can "solo" all these trails
>implying those inbred retards can do 12h hiking days with their beer guts hanging.
Lol

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:31:43 No.2519784 Report

Quoted By: >>2519828

>>2519776
What's your point? Most of us can't do that today, so we have to spend big money on equivalent gear to keep us warm. You can't just go buy a shitty $70 coat from walmart and think you're better off than an explorer from the 1700s because muh technology. Even today the warmest gear is made of natural materials, and shit's expensive.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:35:33 No.2519788 Report

Quoted By: >>2519876

>>2519463
I know this is bait but its true. I sued to work at outdoors stores and people would come in and I knew they watched Darwin on YouTube because they would be trying to buy what he recommended, except Darwin lives and hikes in California and we live and hike in Ontario. Saving weight by not having a bug net tent will not work up here

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:07:30 No.2519819 Report

Quoted By: >>2519963

>>2519770
I'm just warning against gearfagging because it makes people think expensive = good in general. you can buy budget clothing if you pick the right materials for the environment, doesn't even need to be hobby specific clothing.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:10:40 No.2519826 Report

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>>2519779
they can though. the dudes work general labor jobs in the summer heat 12hours a day even well into their 50s or 60s. just because they have a gut from excessive alcohol doesn't mean they don't have endurance or strong legs that can go all day. just because you don't like their politics doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. people who grow up outdoors don't have to have an /out/ hobby like you because it's just normal life. you can do ad-hominem attacks all you want, but they were playing out there when they were 10 years old without supervision while you were playing with pokemon cards indoors.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:11:41 No.2519828 Report

Quoted By: >>2519960 >>2519963

>>2519784
not him but the actual point is that there are cheaper alternatives to real furs these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 22:04:21 No.2519876 Report

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>>2519788
REI doesn’t sell the Zpacks Ultaplex. Darwin uses something like that because he’s really tall and a typical single wall tent is too narrow.

And I’m not sure what you mean by “a bug net tent.”

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 22:10:25 No.2519884 Report

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>>2519826
Lots of projection there, redneck.
Also none of those beer gut subhmans can keep with my pace.
t. /rooner/

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 22:19:56 No.2519897 Report

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>>2519463
Yes, this is luckily something I realized early when I was searching up youtube videos. Most of the people recommending stuff are americans, "hiking" paths where there's easily multiple other people they run into and camp together with. Like its borderline taking a walk downtown. You suddenly realize how so many of them get away with using light shoes and a pack weighing less than a schoolkid's backpack. If you follow their advice, and you live anywhere with a bit of cold, or with actual terrain, your bound to have an awful time.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 23:06:07 No.2519920 Report

Quoted By: >>2519972 >>2520045

>>2519826
Holy shit can we stop projecting this myth that every “rural” person in America is Kit Carson? The vast majority of rednecks spend their off time at the local watering hole and are incredibly out of shape from years of smoking reds and eating slop from Walmart and Dollar General.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 23:08:48 No.2519923 Report

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>>2519463
>Be Yuro
>Google tourist traps
>Be mad you showed up to a tourist trap
A tale as old as time

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 00:43:02 No.2519960 Report

Quoted By: >>2519967

>>2519828
There really aren't. Even poor Mongols in Siberian villages wear expensive fur because that's the only thing that will keep them alive.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 00:53:05 No.2519963 Report

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>>2519828
>>2519819
I think what you mean is that most people going /out/ in America don't need super expensive fur or down coats because they aren't going to the arctic and will be able to stay warm by layering well using cheaper materials. I agree that it's hilarious seeing citiots on trails in their thousand dollar canada goose jackets when it's 30F out. But if your goal is to be warm in arctic-like conditions then yeah, you're going to be paying a lot of money on a high quality fur or down jacket end of story.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:02:21 No.2519967 Report

Quoted By: >>2519968

>>2519960
people that go the the himalayas or the poles dont wear furs; they wear down, wool, polyester etc. all of which is relatively cheap and gets the job done

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:05:45 No.2519968 Report

Quoted By: >>2519973

>>2519967
That's because fur is too heavy for mountain climbing. They all wear top of the line down coats though, mixed with wool base layers and synthetic base/shell layers.

>all of which is relatively cheap
Down is not cheap. Good wool is not cheap.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:14:53 No.2519972 Report

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>>2519920
I will if ppl stop projecting the myths of noble savage indians and poor unprivileged niggers being astronauts and doctors

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:18:01 No.2519973 Report

Quoted By: >>2519974

>>2519968
>Down is not cheap. Good wool is not cheap.
It is compared to fur. And down is just a better insulator anyway.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:19:59 No.2519974 Report

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>>2519973
Any jacket suitable for mountain climbing will run you over $300.

>And down is just a better insulator anyway.
False. Fur is the best insulator by far if weight and price aren't an issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:21:29 No.2519976 Report

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>>2519463
They are probably the most well know, and thus well trodden trails in the entire world, what did you expect?
Did you expect for them to be all overgrown and and barely visible?
Retard

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:33:30 No.2519981 Report

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>>2519583
I go down scree slopes in trail runners like I’m skiing, but go ahead and tell me I need boots cuz muh ankle support.
Sorry, but I’m not some 300lb faggot with weak ankles, and hiking boots aren’t stiff enough to stop you from hurting your ankle.
Just go hike in modern motocross boots with integrated ankle braces if you’re that worried about your glass ankles and want a boot that’s actually stiff enough to stop an ankle injury

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:40:52 No.2519988 Report

Quoted By: >>2520263

>>2519767
Good job leaving out the fact they lost toes and whole chunks of their feet due to frostbite

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 02:06:18 No.2519998 Report

Quoted By: >>2520047 >>2520049 >>2520142

>>2519826
There is no blue collar job that gets your heart rate into zone 2 to build endurance.
I do siding, gutters, and windows, and you might think climbing ladders all day with a heavy work belt on would translate well to alpinism, but it doesn’t.
It’s like 30 seconds of climbing and then 20 minutes of shuffling around on a running board, which does jack shit for cardio or endurance.
Sure it’s way better than sitting in a chair all day, but you’re kidding yourself if you think a blue collar job means you can run up mountains or hike 20 mile days for months

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 02:12:15 No.2520005 Report

Quoted By: >>2520192 >>2521435 >>2524603

>>2519826
>you were playing with pokemon cards indoors.
Fatass cope
Anime posters go /out/ more than you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:00:40 No.2520045 Report

Quoted By: >>2523762

>>2519920
it depends on what "rednecks" you are talking about. that's a problem with your semantics and worldview, not mine. the people you call "rednecks" are usually LARPers who live just outside of suburbia. I'm talking about real rural people.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:04:04 No.2520047 Report

Quoted By: >>2520054 >>2520097

>>2519998
you don't need to be a serious athlete to do any of this shit though, that's the point. you just need to be remotely fit. people who work desk jobs and LARP can go do most of these trails if they have double digit IQ. being able to stay on your feet for hours translates better to this type of shit anyways, it's usally faggots crying about their feet hurting from a blister who tap out.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:05:05 No.2520049 Report

Quoted By: >>2520056 >>2520142

>>2519998
hiking 20 miles is not hard. maybe you are overweight? it's not a race. if anything, the only real taxing part is your thighs getting fatigued from inclines.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:19:14 No.2520054 Report

Quoted By: >>2520055

>>2520047
>remotely fit
And you think dudes with beer guts count as remotely fit because they walk around a bit in between driving their truck to drive a skid loader or use a nail gun?
Carrying sheet rock 20 yards every 15 minutes will make it easier for you to carry sheet rock, it will not condition you to hike 20 mile days.
Blue collar work does not make you fit, you’re more likely to have chronic back pain and weird muscular imbalances from doing the same thing everyday than some office worker who gets up out of their chair every hour to stretch and do 10 push ups.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:22:03 No.2520055 Report

Quoted By: >>2520060

>>2520054
> t. deskcel

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:22:27 No.2520056 Report

Quoted By: >>2520064

>>2520049
>hiking 20 miles is not hard
>it’s not a race
I’m talking about 20 mile days for months at a time, which is pretty standard for young and fit people who hike long trails.
Your hypothetical blue collar beer gut guy is not capable of that, you are delusional if you think otherwise

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:26:43 No.2520060 Report

Quoted By: >>2520065 >>2524606

>>2520055
>t. actual blue collar worker
You need to be 18 to post here kid

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:33:33 No.2520064 Report

Quoted By: >>2520084

>>2520056
that's not what anyone was talking about. people like that don't have jobs like 99% of people. just stop. nobody compared a manual laborer to a professional athlete. you can keep reaching though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:35:05 No.2520065 Report

Quoted By: >>2520076 >>2520091

>>2520060
you press a button on a line in a climate conrolled warehouse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:50:40 No.2520076 Report

Quoted By: >>2520091

>>2520065
>>2520065
Judging by the low quality labeling on the cheap toolbox, the Walmart "rugged blue collar" everyman thermos covered in escapist fantasy stickers of places he's never been to and gear that he won't ever use for its intended purpose, and his need to post this picture... yes, his life probably does consist of pushing buttons in some slave labor shithole dead end job. But he won't reply to this anyway.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:59:33 No.2520084 Report

Quoted By: >>2520098

>>2520064
>the big trails all the thru-hikers talk about
>no one’s talking about that
Obviously you didn’t even read OP, and you are struggling to read what I say too, you just skimmed and started taking shit about things you don’t know.
I never said anything about needing pro athlete levels of endurance.
20 mile days are standard for young fit people on long trails.
That’s not pro athlete levels; those guys are crushing 40-60 miles a day and pushing for FKTs or calendar year triple crowns.
Can a beer bellied blue collar worker hike the AT?
Sure, 70yo ladies have done it, but he isn’t gonna be averaging close to what a moderately fit 25yo dude will be; it would probably take him a whole month longer to finish.
>bubba and cleetus can "solo" all these trails
>implying those inbred retards can do 12h hiking days with their beer guts hanging.
>>they can though.
Totally delusional to think some beer gut guy could keep a pace like that for more than a couple days, let alone an entire long trail thru hike.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:16:31 No.2520091 Report

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>>2520065
>>2520076
In the summers I do windows, siding, and gutters.
In the winter that stuff isn’t happening, so I do basic repair work in a factory.
This place was built in like 1920, so it’s way to old to be climate controlled.
>cheap toolbox
>Walmart thermos
So now you’re bashing blue collar workers who aren’t richfag brand whores who spend thousands a month at the snapon truck or buy the latest Milwaukee pack out coffee thermos?
Go fuck your self.
>escapist fantasy stickers
Wtf are you talking about?
It’s a Yuru Camp sticker and some stickers I got for free when I ordered stuff from Dutchware and RBTR cuz I sew some of my own stuff.
Sewed a new hammock this past weekend, pic rel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:27:49 No.2520097 Report

Quoted By: >>2520105

>>2520047
Nig stop, cletus isn't going to hike 20 mile days, you're a delusional retard.
cletus is driving his raised chevy as far as he can and then walk .5 miles to the waterhole. And then will lay all day on a chair because his knee pain is killing him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:28:56 No.2520098 Report

Quoted By: >>2524988

>>2520084
slow and steady dude
it's aint even a race lol

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:46:37 No.2520105 Report

Quoted By: >>2520107 >>2520116

>>2520097
bitch please. not all labor jobs are the same. try being a low-tier guy on a framing team. the boomer makes you do all the lifting, carrying studs, heavy door frames, and sheetrock up stairs because they don't want you to scratch up the elevators. now try doing that literally all day long. guys who do shit like that would twist you into a pretzel in 10 seconds. you have no clue the kind of endurance and mentality it takes to stay in a position like that for years. been there and lucky to be out. you wouldn't last more than a couple of hours I can assure you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:49:46 No.2520107 Report

Quoted By: >>2520116

>>2520105
and the buildings I did this in were usually 10+ floors, most of the time working at least half way up. it's about as close as you can get to slave labor legally, hiking is a fucking cakewalk compared to that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 05:05:49 No.2520116 Report

Quoted By: >>2520124

>>2520105
>>2520107
No shit there are fit people who work blue collar jobs, no one said there wasn’t, but that’s not who the subject at hand was.
>>2519756
>>2519826
The subject was beer bellied Bubba and Cletus having some magical hiking ability by virtue of them having a blue collar job and not sitting in a chair all day
>they sit in their lazyboy all evening instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 05:33:43 No.2520124 Report

Quoted By: >>2520129

>>2520116
hiking is not that hard though, unless you're talking about the rare "hardcore" type of hiker... which would be strawmanning. general hiking only seems "hard" to people who live a sedintary lifestyle. everyone used to hike several hundred yeats ago. it's nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 06:10:26 No.2520129 Report

Quoted By: >>2520419

>>2520124
Idk what you consider a hardcore hiker, but the claim was beer bellied Cletus can magically hike at the same level as an averagely fit 20 something thru hiker, all while wearing $20 rain boots and a t-shirt, because Cletus has a blue collar job.
>general hiking only seems "hard" to people who live a sedentary lifestyle
That’s the Average 1st worlder in 2023

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 07:10:17 No.2520142 Report

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>>2519463
>dirt sidewalk
It's like taking roads instead of driving thru people's yards. It protects natural areas from extra damage. Plus it's the easiest way to get to camping spots without losing your way even if it's only a couple of miles.

>>2519998
>>2520049
20 miles is 5+hours before and after lunch depending on trail. I could do that everyday if my pack wasn't heavy. Too much weight which heavy people already have before carrying anything would be bad but they are already use to it.
I usually don't see big people at 2-3 miles in, that I remember at least.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 12:38:33 No.2520192 Report

Quoted By: >>2520205

>>2520005
>Anime posters go /out/ more than you
can confirm. need to bring some anime rep with me next time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 13:14:51 No.2520205 Report

Quoted By: >>2521435

>>2520192
Can't confirm. You don't have any pics to prove it. You tried tho.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 15:31:34 No.2520263 Report

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>>2519988
they still do

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 16:00:13 No.2520268 Report

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You should see the trails in Europe, half of them are paved and the other half are paved roads with bus stops

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 19:29:16 No.2520419 Report

Quoted By: >>2520461 >>2520619

>>2520129
I know fat mexicans who can go all day long, so like I said, having a big belly doesn't mean you are less fit than someone without. there are fat guys with lower resting heartrates than skinny guys. not all labor jobs are the same, so if you want to be picky about what I said, go ahead. I have guys I've hunted with that are fat and they can walk for miles and miles without bitching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 20:29:29 No.2520461 Report

Quoted By: >>2520471

>>2520419
>I know fat mexicans who can go all day long
No you don't and even if you do, if they're fat, their pace sucks. No 60lb overweight 5'5" mexican manlet can keep up with a fit hiker no matter what you say.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 20:38:20 No.2520471 Report

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>>2520461

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 00:48:29 No.2520619 Report

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>>2520419
>having a big belly doesn't mean you are less fit than someone without.
Yes it does, keep coping fatass squatemalan

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 18:06:35 No.2521435 Report

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>>2520205

>>2520005

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 16:53:01 No.2521885 Report

Quoted By: >>2523358 >>2523365 >>2524609

>>2519758
>you can drive a jeep through most of the shit in the west
what does this even mean? You aint driving a jeep thru millions of acres of forests.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 17:03:56 No.2521891 Report

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>>2520471
>posts archaic can-crusher who could not survive in the more athletic and disciplined heavyweight division of today
Wow you sure showed him

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 19:25:39 No.2523358 Report

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>>2521885
Come again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 19:54:10 No.2523365 Report

Quoted By: >>2524609 >>2525193

>>2521885
The furthest you can get from a road in the lower 48 is like 20 miles
so yeah, you can pretty much drive to any point and then walk the last couple miles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 20:10:09 No.2523374 Report

Quoted By: >>2523377

>>2519552
What the fuck does this even mean? Im beginning to think no one on this board knows what larp means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 20:13:35 No.2523377 Report

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>>2523374
It means roughly the same as "hipster" used to mean : "anyone with unmitigated AUDACITY who does something in a way or for a reason I don't approve of."

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 12:34:36 No.2523619 Report

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>>2519463
>cherry pick a valley on the PCT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 14:02:40 No.2523633 Report

Quoted By:

>>2519767
>8,000er
I really hate that some fags misappropriated an American colloquialism to fit their own needs. It’s cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 22:03:46 No.2523762 Report

Quoted By: >>2523768 >>2524605 >>2524607

>>2520045
>that’s the problem with your semantics and worldview, not mine
Actually it’s the other way around fuckhead. See what you’re describing is the exception, not the rule. Like I said most rednecks are fat retards. I’m not doubting the people you describe exist, but for every “bubba and cleetus” that can do the things you describe, there’s just as much if not more ultra fit marathon/trail runner urbanites who would absolutely smoke those dudes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 22:08:48 No.2523763 Report

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>>2519776
I don’t think this is true. ‘Jack of all trades master of none’ has been recognized by humans since the beginning and every person typically has a specialty that contributes to the whole. What I’m getting at is that people have always had to barter for items so it’s not breaking your larp just because you didn’t hand make everything you’re wearing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 22:33:30 No.2523768 Report

Quoted By: >>2523769 >>2523796

>>2523762
oh yeah! ultra marathoners(who usually weigh like 130lbs soaking wet) would DEMOLISH a fat redneck. hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 22:38:22 No.2523769 Report

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>>2523768
In an endurance event? They absolutely would. Posts like this make me glad I grew up in a state that values education.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 00:04:14 No.2523796 Report

Quoted By:

>>2523768
they definitely woud

Herbs

Herbs Thu 12 Jan 2023 22:39:57 No.2524125 Report

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>>2519497
Imagine shit taking the US and not posting your native country
boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 17:04:51 No.2524468 Report

Quoted By:

>>2519463
>Anon from country the size of Maine is surprised when not American trails are the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 22:27:24 No.2524601 Report

Quoted By:

>>2519770.
>How often do you get in an argument with an anon that has the hubris of an expert but clearly literally no idea what they're talking about.
Constantly. That is basically how I would summarize this board. It's driving me mad. Just people who clearly don't even have the self obvious knowledge someone who has done X thing once would need to have to have done it, spouting off randomly made up advice as if they were an expert.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 22:32:10 No.2524603 Report

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>>2520005
Kek. Fucking based.
What altitude did you start at?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 22:38:42 No.2524605 Report

Quoted By: >>2524635

>>2523762
do you know what percentage of hikers are ultra-fit marathoners? you're deliberately being selective when the original debate was about the averag hiker. the point was that anyone remotely fit can hike your average public trails. any attempt to say otherwise just outs you as a shitposter or a salty unfit faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 22:39:17 No.2524606 Report

Quoted By: >>2524783

>>2520060
Dude I unload trucks at costco and I'm sure I do more manual labor than you, and I would consider my jobs easy, shut the fuck up. I've worked in factories like this, genuinely 90% of factory workers are basically part of an assembly line. I bet you stand still and screw the same 4 screws into a piece of paneling all day or some shit. Or weld the same 2 lines over and over.
I always figured I was in real bad shape because I don't workout, don't do cardio, and smoke a half a pack a day, till I invited some friends with desk jobs out hiking, just to see that they were out of breath having to sit down every hundred feet while I just wasn't.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 22:40:52 No.2524607 Report

Quoted By: >>2524634 >>2524705 >>2524742

> this is you>>2523762

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 22:45:03 No.2524609 Report

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>>2523365
Seriously. I say this and get called a larper who dosent go out, but like, look at a map. 15 miles from a road is maybe possible in like the frank church wilderness in Idaho, and sequoia in callifornia, and a couple deserts in nevada and that's about it.
>>2521885

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 23:23:07 No.2524634 Report

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>>2524607
I go out more than you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 23:32:27 No.2524635 Report

Quoted By: >>2524689

>>2524605
I never said marathon runners are the average, just that for every redneck as described, there are just as much if not more /fit/ trail runner types that would outperform them, which is true. The original point was actually that your average trailer trash is putting is outperforming the average day hiker by virtual of having a trade, which is untrue. I’m sorry you’re fat and retarded but living in some delusion that those things are somehow virtues isn’t going to help you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 01:32:31 No.2524689 Report

Quoted By: >>2524710 >>2524788

>>2524635
I'm actually not the original person you were arguing with. Seemed to me like they were saying the average manual laborer could do all the popular "trails" that are cleared out, and that you didn't have to be some unemployed giga-hiker to complete them. That seems pretty true, beer belly or not. I'm sensing that your delusions come from not having been to any of these places, so you think they are some Mission Impossible Hollywood movie type of shit. Either that or you are a onionsboy who watched "Free Solo" and plays Uncharted..99% of the population is nearly completely sedintary at least 350 days out of the year, to think that a laborer isn't the epitome of "physically fit" in comparion would be delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 02:03:20 No.2524705 Report

Quoted By:

>>2524607
theyre going outside i dont see the issue here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 02:15:45 No.2524710 Report

Quoted By: >>2524838

>>2524689
>to think the a laborer isn’t the epitome of “physically fit”
It’s not and you’ve never worked a trade

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 04:11:20 No.2524742 Report

Quoted By:

>>2524607
I'm an Asian?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 05:51:02 No.2524783 Report

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>>2524606
The comparison wasn’t the average blue collar worker vs the average office worker.
The comparison was the average blue collar worker vs an outdoor enthusiast.
Of course your friends will have a harder time than you if their lifestyle is more sedentary.
The point is that working a blue collar job doesn’t grant you magical hiking abilities like the other guy thinks 5’3” beer bellied Mexican roofers have.
From what I can tell, he thinks that hypothetical guy would blow through the PCT, doing 30+ miles a day wearing nothing but a T-shirt and sandals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 06:13:51 No.2524788 Report

Quoted By: >>2524838

>>2524689
If “could complete” is your standard, that’s an extremely low bar.
A guy with no legs climbed Everest, it just took an entire team to do it.
An 80yo grandma hiked the AT, it just took her three times the average length of time.
Anyone who can walk can hike almost anywhere given enough time and the right supplies.
Of course the average laborer is more fit than the average desk worker, no one is arguing otherwise.
The contention comes in when that other guy claims that beer bellied Bubba is just as capable a hiker if not more so than the average hiker or outdoor enthusiast, with the reasoning behind that claim being that beer bellied Bubba works a blue collar job

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 09:11:28 No.2524831 Report

Quoted By: >>2525032 >>2525112 >>2525161 >>2525204 >>2525467

>>2519463
>>2519497
>>2519756
>muh off trail
>off trail
>hating trails
i see this sentiment constantly on this board. it seems really bizzare to me... then i think back to the times i've traveled abroad and how tame the outdoors was compared to the places i've lived (wa, or, cali, nw territories, mexico)
i think (sarcasm) maybe depending on region there might be a pretty big variance in what "off trail" entails... doesn't europe only have a single old growth forest left or am i mistaken?
there's a certain romance to going places barely anyone or no one's been, but anons, off trail pretty much means macheting your way through blackberry bushes the whole time at snail's pace getting completely torn up and having to throw all your gear away after the trip. ill do it but you gotta give me a good reason. off trail also sucks dick places where there's venomous snakes. there's reasons trails exist. they're older than humanity. even animals make and utilize them.
baka travel and get out more eurocucks. wild camp my balls toothless 4reigners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 09:39:15 No.2524838 Report

Quoted By: >>2524844 >>2525061

>>2524788
bubba spent his life outside though, was probably doing the things you consider a "hobby" from ane arly age. you are not foundationally built the same. nu-males cannot compete.
>>2524710
it is in this day and age. you grew up playing xbox while these guys put in 60hr weeks at 16.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 10:55:16 No.2524844 Report

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>>2524838
If you were saying Bubba could fish, or trap, or build a better bushcraft shelter, I would agree with you, but none of that matters when taking about fitness.
If you’re a beer bellied fatass it doesn’t matter if you work a blue collar job or know how to run a trotline, you’re gonna give yourself a heart attack trying to keep up on any sort of uphill with someone of average fitness who hikes regularly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 19:42:01 No.2524988 Report

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>>2520098
It actually is in some ways. Some distances require long water and food carries where a minimum must be met for safety. Most distance hikers also try to plan timing based on seasons; that can be flexible with yoyoing, section hiking but applicable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 20:18:25 No.2525006 Report

Quoted By:

>>2519463
>I've been taking Americans' gear
GIVE IT BACK!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 21:39:53 No.2525032 Report

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>>2524831
Its just classic elitism done the autistic 4chan way. Basically not like other girls but for people that think a hobby is the same as a personality. I like both. Theyre good in different ways. But it doesnt make you a pioneer badass when you say trails are for larpers or whatever the fuck. Also im pretty sure people that say stuff like that go out the least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2023 22:17:06 No.2525061 Report

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>>2524838
>you grew up playing xbox while these guys put in 60hr weeks at 16
Kek I’m a fucking carpenter/upholster you dumbass and before that I was enlisted. You have an incredibly romanticized view of what “blue collar” people are actually like and it makes me believe you that’s because you have no experience in that regard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 00:35:14 No.2525112 Report

Quoted By: >>2525159

>>2524831
lmao, you burgers are such a fucking joke, trails are for leisurely strolls, if you're going /out/ you're not going on a prepared trail, that's antithetical to going /out/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 00:43:05 No.2525116 Report

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>>2519463
No shit bro what did you think trail meant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 03:09:16 No.2525159 Report

Quoted By: >>2525302

>>2525112
>if you’re going /out/ you’re not going on a prepared trail
Something euros also wouldn't know about

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 03:11:50 No.2525161 Report

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>>2524831
>getting completely tore up and throwing away your gear at the end of the trip
Wtf are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 04:44:39 No.2525193 Report

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>>2523365
yeah but those 20 miles aren't easy especially when you go off trail trying to navigate over and around deadfall, boulder slides, and marshy meadows

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 05:07:23 No.2525204 Report

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>>2524831
I agree with your point in this post entirely, however on the other hand, I am absolutely one of those fags that will plow through waist high bushes slowly, painfully, awkwardly for a mile just to get somewhere for that romantic exploration element
But that might be me just because the whole reason I go outdoors is because I have some kind of complex where I feel the need to be as independent, and have as much privacy as possible or om horribly uncomfortable, so obviously needing to be off trail is part of that.
But yeah, like even wild animals use trails a big chunk of the time and maintain trails because it's so much less efficient and more dangerous to just go through the bushes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 11:51:37 No.2525302 Report

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>>2525159
Depends where you are, but yeah, most of Europe is fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 11:59:53 No.2525305 Report

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You don't know what hiking is until you've hiked in scotland during summer. Weather that changes ever 20 minutes from torrential rain to sunshine, No visible trail, knee-deep in stinking peat bog getting eaten alive ticks and midges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 13:04:54 No.2525314 Report

Quoted By: >>2525434

>>2519463
me too, I did the same mistake. The gear just dont hold up outside of big trails and well prepared camp areas. But my bag is alot lighter now though, so i dont think its all useless. However, the trousers, shoes, jackets and less than 50l bags is made for camp to camp on a big trail

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 17:42:46 No.2525434 Report

Quoted By: >>2525470

>>2525314
take the infantryman pill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 18:36:55 No.2525467 Report

Quoted By: >>2525494 >>2525496 >>2525599

>>2524831
>doesn't europe only have a single old growth forest left or am i mistaken?
Jesus christ dude.. It's too big to only have 1 old forest left.. I live in the netherlands and even we have a "forest" left.. it's small as fk, more like a bush, but it's still there..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 18:41:50 No.2525470 Report

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>>2525434
I don't think euros know what that is Tbh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 19:38:49 No.2525494 Report

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>>2525467
"old-growth" doesn't mean old, fellow vriendelijke pannenkoek.

The last old-growth forest is in Poland; Białowieża forest.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 19:40:12 No.2525496 Report

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>>2525467
I don't think that's the argument you want to make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 22:18:39 No.2525599 Report

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>>2525467
yeah there's only one old growth forest in all of europe. i don't even need to drive to be in old growth forest, my back yard's hiking trails lead to one.

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