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LARPer vs Ultralighter

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 21:43:13 No.2525574 View View Reply Original Report

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>Bushcrafter packs 50 pounds of gear
>Camps under 1 mile from the trail head
>Amtrak train seen in the background of the youtube video where you're trying to convince impressionable tweens that you're a rugged mountain man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAVt99ymHc4

meanwhile...

>Gear fits in 20 liter backpack
>Finds his sleeping pad in the trash along the way, probably didn't even start with one
>Hikes the entire full length of north america like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkzggN8OBlE

How old were you when you realized all the extra gear bushcrafters bring is training wheels to make up for not having a dad?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 21:44:14 No.2525575 Report

Quoted By: >>2525627 >>2525735 >>2525755 >>2525821 >>2526848 >>2526894 >>2528536 >>2528898 >>2529182 >>2531697 >>2533495

here's the bushcrafter's loadout
i'm not joking he's under 1 mile from the parking lot camping right next to some amtrak train tracks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 21:51:24 No.2525580 Report

Quoted By: >>2525582 >>2535014

yep, people like different things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 21:54:21 No.2525582 Report

Quoted By: >>2525618 >>2528020 >>2535018

>>2525580
i think its just because they never had a strong father figure. the 30lbs of gear is like a comfort blanket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 22:19:27 No.2525602 Report

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>>2525574
Holy shit that asian twink acts so gay, but what would you expect from an ultralighter.
Apart from that making your own gear is always based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 22:35:33 No.2525618 Report

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>>2525582
yep, people are not you and like different things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 22:36:14 No.2525619 Report

Quoted By: >>2525623 >>2525760 >>2525935 >>2525962 >>2526120 >>2527074 >>2528654

>>2525574
I do 1000 miles every summer with 60 pounds. That's normal in Sweden.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 22:45:28 No.2525623 Report

Quoted By: >>2525760 >>2526120 >>2528618 >>2532323

>>2525619
>I do 1000 miles every summer with 60 pounds. That's normal in Sweden.
Good luck convincing these day hiker milquetoasts that that's even possible... even though, y'know, it was the norm for hiking throughout the 1970s-1990s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 22:52:06 No.2525627 Report

Quoted By: >>2525631

>>2525575
Hey that’s me!
You’re a niggerfaggot who needs to charge your phone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 22:55:57 No.2525631 Report

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>>2525627
if you're getting ad revenue for playing dad substitute to tiktok teens...
i honestly can't knock the hustle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 02:30:39 No.2525733 Report

Quoted By: >>2525740 >>2525854

im not wasting hundreds on UL gear and dried meals. I just get a bunch of chinese crap i see on amazon and that keeps it around 25-30lbs which is really not that bad unless youre really out of shape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 02:43:30 No.2525735 Report

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>>2525575
Instagram faggot consumer gear

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Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 03:03:20 No.2525740 Report

Quoted By: >>2525755 >>2525784 >>2525854 >>2530773

>>2525733
>im not wasting hundreds on UL gear
No, you'd have to waste thousands on it, and Dyneema degrades within five or six years (check the manufacturers' specs, kids). When it does degrade, they'll throw it away and it'll pollute the environment for centuries to come.

At least PU-coated nylon has the decency to last for ten to fifteen years before the coating starts to pill off, like it has on my 1990s 48L Kelty pack and 2000s LL Bean 40L pack. That's what these kids don't understand: the ravages of time. Guarantee you not a single zoomer on this board had the faintest notion how quickly Dyneema degrades when they bought their gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 03:39:21 No.2525755 Report

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>>2525575
1 tiny water bottle, no water purifying options beyond fire, small handheld flashlight...but 4 blades. Yeah this guy's puts down the miles.

Nah he probably has a good time. I have a whole box of kit for short camps with friends, some more things for winter. You take what you need, just so happens that when the weather and trail is good you need very little.

>>2525740
Brainlet take. Vast vast majority of weight is saved with a down quilt, pad, and leaving extraneous stuff like extra clothing and camp stuff like saws. Dozens of silpoly and silnylon shelters at normal tent prices. Are you too much of a bitch to use a tarp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 04:00:33 No.2525760 Report

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>>2525619
>>2525623
I'm all for this and use an external frame with some bulkier shit but sometimes i get off the trail and muh knees hurt for a week lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 05:15:58 No.2525784 Report

Quoted By: >>2525918

>>2525740
How would anyone know what happens to Dyneema after 20 years? It hasn’t even been around that long, let alone common place.
When PU coated fabrics first became a thing, they peeled much quicker than 5-6 years, sometimes only in a matter of months.
New materials advance and improve, and Dyneema since switched to a different type of Mylar than what was used in many of the early shelters that had issues with delaminating.
Many problems with it tend to be related to shelter or pack construction, such as poor choice in seam construction, too short a stitch length, or not reinforcing properly.

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Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 08:08:38 No.2525821 Report

Quoted By: >>2525853 >>2526850 >>2529219 >>2530423 >>2535020

>>2525575
>lantern
>whetstone
>draw knife
>a ton of different rags and blankets
>two different pocket knifes
>A CAST IRON SKILLET
what the actual fuck is this man thinking? i can understand taking a hatchet sometimes, but this is absurd.

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Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 10:43:39 No.2525853 Report

Quoted By: >>2525872 >>2526318

>>2525821
>>A CAST IRON SKILLET

he's a such a sampilled LOTRcel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 11:05:57 No.2525854 Report

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>>2525733
>>2525740
It’s a matter of perspective. If you’re trying to get below 10lbs then yeah, probably.

But under 15? It’s not going to cost that much. A really nice, free standing, double walled, non-ultralight tent is the same price as a Durston X-Mid or an SMD Lunar Solo. And the Lanshan 1 is the cheap Chinese version of a Lunar Solo that you can find in Ali Express. The same goes for packs; you can get a fairly light pack for the same price as a 70L LARP bag without buying DCF (Osprey Exos, Gregory Focal…). The only really “expensive” item is a down quilt.

The biggest weight saving is leaving shit at home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 12:25:55 No.2525870 Report

Quoted By: >>2528312

>people really think it costs thousands to go below 15 pounds
The other anon who said it takes minimal effort to just get to 15 pounds is correct: it doesn't take that much. I can go sub 15 with my Osprey backpack, you don't need a $300+ small cottage, xpack constructed backpack to get to that weight limit, nor need a zpacks tent. Just getting inexpensive, light gear and not packing 50 layers accomplishes this goal, with food and water included.

Fuck sake, there's some cheap Chinese quilts you can get that are ultralight, you don't need an enlightened equipment one. You don't need to go balls to the wall with Rab layering either. It isn't until you go sub 10 pounds you gotta splurge.

And expensive dried food? Bruh, ultralighters skim the 99 cent food packets for their stuff, not $15 mountain houses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 12:34:46 No.2525872 Report

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>>2525853
sam's carrying a hammered skillet though, which would actually be pretty light compared to the cast iron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 15:16:06 No.2525918 Report

Quoted By: >>2525923 >>2525932 >>2526128 >>2533424

>>2525784
>How would anyone know what happens to Dyneema after 20 years?
Ask the chemist(s) who originally designed it.
>It hasn’t even been around that long, let alone common place.
It has, under a different trade name, used for yacht sails and similar applications. It's been around longer than you clearly just assumed based on when it showed up at REI. You're ignorant, as I said before.
>When PU coated fabrics first became a thing, they peeled much quicker than 5-6 years, sometimes only in a matter of months.
Yeah, because it's a coated fabric. Dyneema is a fiber unto itself. Plastictard cope means nothing to me because my one pack is waxed duck canvas that I sewed up and buckled to an old Kelty frame myself, and my other pack is Mystery Ranch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 15:29:14 No.2525923 Report

Quoted By: >>2526128 >>2526131

>>2525918
Cuban fiber was not laminated with the same process as Dyneema, the adhesives are different.
>Dyneema is a fiber unto itself.
Wrong, it’s a non-woven laminated fabric.
Seems like you’re projecting your ignorance.
Why didn’t you post that pack you claim you made?
Let’s see how shit your stitching is if it even exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 16:18:39 No.2525932 Report

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>>2525918
>DCF you saw at REI
Are the REI employees in the room with you now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 16:24:37 No.2525935 Report

Quoted By: >>2526916

>>2525619
How? My winter load is about 50 lbs, and that's bulky cheap shit and 8 liters of water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 17:41:46 No.2525962 Report

Quoted By: >>2526916

>>2525619
Are you really that bad at /out/ that you need to bring an additional 50lbs of gear with you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 19:24:59 No.2526015 Report

Quoted By: >>2526123

>>2525574
Camping/bushcraft and hiking are different fucking activities. There's nothing wrong with bringing a bunch of shit if you're just camping since you're not going to carry that shit every day.

Hiking require light gear and compromises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 22:20:15 No.2526110 Report

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>>2525574
I didn't know John Cena was into camping. Neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 22:50:16 No.2526120 Report

Quoted By: >>2526914

>>2525619
>>2525623
>>2525623
anon doesn't actually do bandet every summer he's just making it up. cool fantasy if it were true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 22:52:35 No.2526123 Report

Quoted By: >>2526335

>>2526015
Europeans don’t know the difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 23:04:35 No.2526126 Report

Quoted By: >>2526911

>bushlarper gets fit
>nordicstickero doesn't
>bushlarper learns basic survival skills
>nordicstickero learns how to walk in a straight line up minimal incline
>bushlarper goes innawood
>nordicstickero goes onnatrail

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 23:05:18 No.2526128 Report

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>>2525923
There is dyneema fiber but it is not 'DCF' as the fabric is, the fabric is a laminate composite as you said.

>>2525918
Have you considered that people that go out a lot can consider a dyneema object like a tent a wear item if it meets their durability needs? Not everything is an heirloom. For what it's worth DCF is kinda meh, prefer silpoly, and I expect silpoly to see major development in the coming years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2023 23:10:55 No.2526131 Report

Quoted By: >>2526180 >>2526763

>Brainlet take. Vast vast majority of weight is saved with a down quilt, pad, and leaving extraneous stuff like extra clothing and camp stuff like saws.
Yes, leaving extra layers at home, alongside the first aid kit, extra food, any emergency supplies and tools, just like the day hikers who've turned themselves into popsicles and gotten their own memorial /out/ threads this season.

And don't pretend like every UL pansy doesn't get the $1,000 cucktent and $600 cuckruck too, because they always do, if they can afford it (or even if they actually can't).
>>2525923
>Cuban fiber was not laminated with the same process as Dyneema, the adhesives are different.
It's spelled Cuben fiber, but I'm glad you finally did some research.
>Wrong, it’s a non-woven laminated fabric.
Let me rephrase: The issue with laminated nylon fabrics is that they delaminate from their substrate. While Cuben/Dyneema may also have a laminate coating, it's the fiber itself that deteriorates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 00:46:36 No.2526180 Report

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>>2526131
>it's the fiber itself that deteriorates.
And what is the mechanism that deteriorates the UHMWPE fibers according to you?
Early Cuban fiber stuff delaminated in a way that the mylar separated at the stitching due improper stitch choice and reinforcement of the area.
It also had problems with sagging on doors early on, due to the type of Mylar used not bonding as well with the adhesive used, and being non-woven it allowed stretching along the bias.
Both of these problems have been remedied by shelter and pack manufacturers updating how things are constructed, and DSM switching from M to K type mylar for better adhesion and less brittle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 06:51:59 No.2526318 Report

Quoted By: >>2526920

>>2525853
What is the Sam load out?
Starting at the cloak and anything in his belt.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 07:18:17 No.2526325 Report

Quoted By: >>2526326 >>2526441 >>2531708

The "light" carry with PPP (personal protection pug)

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 07:25:48 No.2526326 Report

Quoted By: >>2530774 >>2531708 >>2533096 >>2537638

>>2526325
the typical heavy backpacking/hunting gear
I also have a loadout for if Trump or Biden are relected.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 08:57:06 No.2526335 Report

Quoted By: >>2531236 >>2531732

>>2526123
More like an influx of redditfags obsessed with ul thru hiking that can't comprehend that other people like doing other shit. Newfags probably don't even know who Ray Mears is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 16:55:22 No.2526441 Report

Quoted By: >>2526684 >>2526686 >>2526851

>>2526325
What bow? I have a recurve but it's too long to just bring along. Have you hunted anything with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 19:38:03 No.2526509 Report

Quoted By: >>2526622

hi i'm an ultralighter and i've never bought anything with dyneema in it except the occasional piece of gear using dyneema gridstop which is just more durable ripstop nylon. you don't have to use that stuff to be ultralight. i don't use laminated anything in any of my gear. silpoly, robic nylon, dyneema gridstop, bonded polypropylene, etc exist too. ultralight is more of a mentality than a piece of brand of gear. when i got into ultralight only 2 companies even made gear almost all of it we had to hand make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 19:44:02 No.2526517 Report

Quoted By: >>2526688

go to any bushcrafter or hunting community and its 50000x more consumerist than ultralighters are. most ultralight brands are ran out of people's garages started by hobbyists who start off making gear because nothing on the market suited their needs. if you go back more than about a decade there was literally only rab selling ultralight gear, hardly any of it too. its become cooonsoomery but so is everything. hunting is the most queer about it of all outdoor hobbies IMO. even if you're not one of those people you ALL know hunting has the most gear queers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 22:55:58 No.2526622 Report

Quoted By: >>2526639 >>2526659

>>2526509
yeah its sad that ultralight has turned into spending as much money as possible to get the same level of comfort that you had before but lighter.
In my opinion dcf should be the absolute last thing you buy when you cannot reduce any more weight from removing, sizing down, or getting cheaper replacement items.
Funnily enough i often see a lot of the anti-dcf ultralighters having lighter baseweights than the people with full dcf tents with other comfort items kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 23:19:13 No.2526639 Report

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>>2526622
>Funnily enough i often see a lot of the anti-dcf ultralighters having lighter baseweights than the people with full dcf tents with other comfort items kek
It’s like you said, they wanna have the same comfort but lighter overall weight, so it’s really not surprising that someone who forgoes more comforts can be lighter with a Sil shelter.
I don’t think anyone goes from no tent to a DCF tent, but a shelter is one of the big 4 items and is one of the biggest ways to save weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 23:55:56 No.2526659 Report

Quoted By: >>2526660

>>2526622
I'm an UL but I chose so in order to pack gear that a typical hiker doesn't bring. Multiple fly rods and tackle, my DSLR and 2 lenses that are literal rocks in terms of weight. With those 2 things, along with my other shit including food and water, I'm at ~28 pounds, base weight of 15. Without my tackle and camera gear, literally 8 pound base weight. God I hate DSLR lenses, that's the bulk of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2023 23:57:34 No.2526660 Report

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>>2526659
Fuck, I forgot to mention the biggest thing. Most of my big 4 are made out of xpack material, even my fly fishing chest pack. It's much better than DCF, IMO. DCF blows, shit falls apart after a couple years of usage. Xpack seems to hold up great. Just get the thicker denier shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 00:59:42 No.2526684 Report

Quoted By: >>2537639

>>2526441
I havent taken this one out hunting yet, still relatively new to it although Ive shot for 10 years. Ive got squirrel, rabbit, pheasant, geese and dick.
The bow is a black hunter but under some different name. 45# proably closer to 50 with my draw, hoping to take a deer down soon.
New bow, silencers, rest, nocks and arrows for $120. Pretty damn solid bow, comparable to many $200-300 models

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 01:02:26 No.2526686 Report

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>>2526441
Also yeah you gotta get creative carrying/mounting. I attach it to bags in a couple different ways. Also being a takedown is a solid perk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 01:06:11 No.2526688 Report

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>>2526517
Hunters and bushcrafters spend 51 months of the year planing, buying and accumulating the gear necessary for that 1 week they actually get innawoods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 05:07:38 No.2526763 Report

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>>2526131
Yeah, no. I think DCF is the surface level terminus for people trying to shed weight but people you actually get into the weeds are looking for very light midlayers and other esoteric gear. Theres a lot of cool fabrics well beyond DCFs which don't get near the same attention. And to that regard, a DCF tent is 600 or what ever; 5 days in a hotel, 20 days eating out, etc honestly a small price to pay if it gets used and gets someone outside more. DCF isn't durable like a heavy polyester but it doesn't disintegrate in a year.

>Tools
UL is not bushcraft or back county hunting, it's trail.

>You need this gear to survive the wilderness!
Reminder that hiking is simultaneously so easy that anyone can do it with 40lbs of mil surplus but also UL hikers are 100% unprepared to survive the woods even as they complete things like great divide trail regularly.

Besides the few that really care about hitting a target weight, perhaps it should be rebranded as 'base weight optimizing' or the like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 13:46:11 No.2526848 Report

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>>2525575
He probably meant to go further but couldn’t make it with the halfton of gear on his back, on what planet do you need an axe, AND a saw, AND a drawknife holy shit

But dont worry he got the combo fork+spoon to save weight with his giant cast iron skillet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 13:48:48 No.2526850 Report

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>>2525821
You never know when he’ll have to sharpen his blades, what if his axe, saw, knife, multitool, and draw knife all get dull, what would he do then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 13:50:31 No.2526851 Report

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>>2526441
Get a takedown, much easier to just swap out parts if something happens to break, breaks down to like 1-3 the size, super good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 15:18:45 No.2526894 Report

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>>2525575
Did he take down his instagram or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 16:28:23 No.2526911 Report

Quoted By: >>2528652

>>2526126
>bushlarper gets fit
You dont get fit by walking 20 minutes and then proceed to sit down and eat all day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 16:32:30 No.2526914 Report

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>>2526120
Pretty much every summer. This year I'll be starting in Finnland go to Nordkapp then down to Groveljoen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 16:42:54 No.2526916 Report

Quoted By: >>2526964

>>2525935
Between 30 and 45lbs of equipment, 25 to 35lbs of food for 2 to 3 weeks.
Get a comfortable, vertically stiff packframe. Train your core, butt, knees. If you have basic fitness "newbie gains" it should be no problem, and over time you'll get used to the miles, 30 miles per day for a week is possible, the maximum for me.

>>2525962
Tarp, camera, tripod, spoting scope, wool clothes. I go for fun, not for miles. Its not a competition because you hardly meet people anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 16:50:23 No.2526920 Report

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>>2526318
Read, I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 18:55:46 No.2526964 Report

Quoted By: >>2526967 >>2526972

>>2526916
You have never done 30 miles a day with 60lbs for a week
t. Alaskan guide

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 19:10:31 No.2526967 Report

Quoted By: >>2526983

>>2526964
Yeah, that weight and mileage for that many days seems pretty far fetched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 19:21:05 No.2526972 Report

Quoted By: >>2526978 >>2526984

>>2526964
Yes I have. Those are 12hr hiking days but it's possible. Even 60 miles (100km) in 24hrs in the army with even more stuff, don't know how much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 19:39:30 No.2526978 Report

Quoted By: >>2527014 >>2527060

>>2526972
I know for a fact you’re lying. Im a former elite middle distance runner who has carried 45 lbs over 20 miles with 7,000 feet of vert off trail which is not sustainable for 7 days (plus numerous 35+ mile days with 15 lbs and carrying sheep and caribou quarters 15 miles in a day) and know for an absolute fact you haven't done 60Lbs (30 kg) 30 miles per day x 7. I promise you, unless this is around the runway(flat) at your military base.
Kg to lbs is times 2.2 you. I would have believed you if you said 30lbs. Perhaps you are taking 15 kg x 4.4

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 19:43:40 No.2526983 Report

Quoted By: >>2528047

>>2526967
The colorado trail record is like 45 miles per day with an ultralight base weight. Only 1.5 times the 30 mile distance but the weight is 1/3 of 60lbs at its heaviest. Its a blatant lie or he is converting kgs to pounds incorrectly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 19:47:18 No.2526984 Report

Quoted By: >>2527014

>>2526972
You realize thru hikers doing 30 + miles per day do 17 hour days on average. 30 miles in only 12 hours exposes your lie.
Perhaps you mean 30 kilometers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 19:52:12 No.2526988 Report

Quoted By: >>2527014

Not to mention you would have to eat 15,000 calories per day to sustain that effort. Which is 6 lbs per day in food. You also claim a static weight which aslo expose your lie because at minimum you’re carrying lbs per day in food. So 60 lbs start would end 46 lbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 20:32:11 No.2527014 Report

Quoted By: >>2527027 >>2527028

>>2526978
>>2526984
>>2526988
I'm assuming you are the same guy.
>perhaps you mean 30 km
no, I mean 50km.

>15,000 calories per day
about 5000kcal I think, but I only eat 4000kcal max. Its ok to lose some weight if its just for a week.

>You also claim a static weight which aslo expose your lie because at minimum you’re carrying lbs per day in food. So 60 lbs start would end 46 lbs.
that's true.

>30 + miles per day do 17 hour days on average
10 to 12 hours is realistic on perfect trails, sometimes 15-16 hours.

30 miles on perfect trails I mean no scrambling or rocks you have to step around that could slow down your pace, trails where you can keep a constant rhythm. There is a trail near my winter work I do every other weekend to keep fit: 100 to 120km. I do it in 24 hours with heavy pack. Or on the weekends in two days with a camp somewhere along the trail. It sounds like you have a lot of unexplored fitness potential to say it non-condescendingly.

It's totally possible. You just have to keep at it and train for it. I didn't believe it myself when I was younger and made fun of people saying they'd do 30 miles a day with a heavy pack.

I also met trailrunners that could only do 25 miles a day with their 15lbs packs. There is just a lot of human potential when it comes to traversing long distances believe it or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 20:47:27 No.2527027 Report

Quoted By: >>2527037

>>2527014
You can make about 5 to 6 km per hour. At least that is the standard marching pace for certification in the army.
So that would mean 50km takes about 10 hours. 12.5 hours if you can only do 4km/h. Even if you take generous lunch breaks you can still make 50km in less than 14 hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 20:52:30 No.2527028 Report

Quoted By: >>2527045

>>2527014
You are a blatant liar. Show gps data

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 21:02:40 No.2527037 Report

Quoted By: >>2527065 >>2527082 >>2528321

>>2527027
Lmao. You are doing 3.7 miles per hour with a 60 pound pack lol. I would love to witness this. And doing a 24 hour hike every other weekend on a flat trail lol. What are you training for some military larp? I call bs. You may be able to fool people on don’t go out on this board but I make my living with a pack on my back and have similar run times (college track athlete) as andrew skurka yet many time stronger.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 21:38:14 No.2527045 Report

Quoted By: >>2527047 >>2527051

>>2527028
>gps
here

>What are you training for some military larp?
Nah, they don't pay enough. I have some expeditions planned but honestly I just do it because I like it and am masochistic.

Just exercise and keep pushing youself and you'll get there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 21:46:14 No.2527047 Report

Quoted By: >>2527066

>>2527045
Wir pirschen auf den gleichen Jagdgründen. Waidmannsheil.
Letzten Sonntag war ich auf dem Zschirnstein, bei mir aber nur 30km und 15kg in 8h. Bis zum Sommer will ich mit gleicher Ausrüstung mindestens 40 laufen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 21:53:28 No.2527051 Report

Quoted By: >>2527066

>>2527045
So no data of your 50 km per day for a week? Seems like something ypu would want to track. Let see a pick of you and your pack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:22:49 No.2527060 Report

Quoted By: >>2527077

>>2526978
I know for a fact he's lying because he's told this story in different threads before and it changes every time. Last time it was that he's done this once. This thread he said he does it every summer. That's why I immediately called it as fake.
Hey if he's bringing 60lb of cameras 'just for fun' there must be a lot of proof to share, right? Like a documentary or youtube channel or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:32:03 No.2527065 Report

Quoted By: >>2537641

>>2527037
not that anon but i used to go on 20km jogs with 24kg strapped into my backpack and after a while people would come and ask if i was training for a marathon or something
granted i was drunk basically all day during those years but in best shape of my life as well

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Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:32:18 No.2527066 Report

Quoted By: >>2527072 >>2527081

>>2527051
No. I don't track GPS in Lappland or train in a competitive mindset. Only physical maps if any. You don't feel like competition because its free nature without people if you don't want to meet them. Don't really want to dox myself but good packs help, ngl. Its the one thing I would invest money in if you want to carry heavy. The standard packs like fjallraven kajka will likely only get you to 45 or 50lbs comfortably max while on high speed unless they fit perfectly.

>>2527047
Sauber! Du kannst mal nach Lappland kommen. Mit 30km bist du fit genug. Dort wirst du noch fitter weil es eine freie Umgebung ist die fitness verlangt. Einfach rein ins Feuer 500km. Der Kopf gibt irgendschon auf und der Koerper hat keine andere Wahl als nachzukommen.
Waldmannsheil. Vi ses, hoppas jag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:38:30 No.2527072 Report

Quoted By: >>2527077

>>2527066
>500 pixel image
>pack full of camera gear
anon this story isn't making less sense every time you post.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:41:36 No.2527074 Report

Quoted By: >>2527077

>>2525619
Same, but Norwegian. Tent, sleeping mat, sleeping bag, food, cook system, water, extra clothing, first aid, toiletries, misc. equipment. Easily 20-35kg depending on the food and equipment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:47:12 No.2527077 Report

Quoted By: >>2535022 >>2535235

>>2527060
>>2527072
bla bla bla. You are just jelous. I delete meta data and compress. I just try to show people what is possible, so they don't get stuck in mediocre mode. Become uber aryan. Train every week and you will make more miles every summer.
I've been polar for every summer since corona. different countries sometimes finnland, sometimes russia, and work in the summer outdoors in Sweden. its not always grona bandet you sperg. See there is another one: >>2527074
Maybe you can attack him too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:51:34 No.2527081 Report

Quoted By: >>2527084

>>2527066
I want to see the body of someone who carries 60lbs for 30 miles for a week.
>exo pack
Not bad
>Worlds greatest backpacker doesn't want to dox himself
Ok bud

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:53:06 No.2527082 Report

Quoted By: >>2527086 >>2527091

>>2527037
Are people really this unfit? I lob around 22kg on me every other day for when I'm doing weighted walks/strength training at the gym. It's not an insane weight to carry on body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:57:16 No.2527084 Report

Quoted By: >>2527095

>>2527081
Different anon; but I ruck with 65lbs for 2 miles every other day on concrete

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 22:59:01 No.2527086 Report

Quoted By: >>2527089

>>2527082
22kg at the gym or at a brisk pace on concrete is entirely different then going up hill. Once you get to a certain mile you notice every minor discrepancy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 23:04:40 No.2527089 Report

Quoted By: >>2527090

>>2527086
t-thats why you increase the incline on the treadmill, anon...5-12% incline at least (this is something you should do for unweighted running as well btw)
5km/h is more than doable, however exceeding that pace and keeping at it for hours is unlikely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 23:05:40 No.2527090 Report

Quoted By:

>>2527089
Also step machine is goated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 23:06:07 No.2527091 Report

Quoted By: >>2527105 >>2527110

>>2527082
Post body and some proof of fitness. Marathon time 5k time etc.
the worlds greatest hikers and endurance athletes could never do 30 miles with 60 lbs but some guy on 4chan can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 23:08:48 No.2527095 Report

Quoted By:

>>2527084
Good realistic training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 23:24:27 No.2527105 Report

Quoted By: >>2527983

>>2527091
>30 miles, 60lbs
I know quiet a few of military guys who are much fitter than I. It's not that big of an achievement. More like a good standard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jan 2023 23:36:54 No.2527110 Report

Quoted By: >>2527979 >>2527983

>>2527091
Hold on, lemme ask the woods how far Ive ventured and the time.
>the worlds greatest hikers and endurance athletes could never do 30 miles with 60 lbs but some guy on 4chan can
Yes, again, it's not an impossible thing. Norwegian FSK has the minimum rucksack march req as 30km/18miles in 4h40min with about 28kg/62lbs on body. Again, thats the minimum, as most long recce troops will have to carry much more than that. So 30miles in less than a day is more than doable, not sustainable, but doable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 14:05:30 No.2527979 Report

Quoted By: >>2528527

>>2527110
18 miles in a short sustained effort isn’t even close to 30 miles x 7 days with 60 lbs. and everyone i know from the military has back problems from doing shit like that and you want me to believe you do this casually? No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 14:14:33 No.2527983 Report

Quoted By: >>2528044 >>2528065 >>2528527

>>2527105
>>2527110
Its not a single day effort I’m arguing it’s some larper claiming he does it for 7 straight days.
>>2527110
So you are now saying it’s not sustainable? Thats my point. Even if you trained for this as some sort of challenge starting with 60 lbs ending with 45 lbs, wet environment so no water carry, first day 20 mile last day 40 mile then a week of recovery maybe I’d believe. Guys who set fkt times are in bed for a week after their attempt. Every 20 lbs of weight double the energy expenditure.
30 miles a day
Burns 5k cal
With 20 lbs
7.5k cal
With 40 10k cal
With 60 15k cal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 15:04:20 No.2528005 Report

Quoted By: >>2528013

>>2525574
what if i want to do something outdoors other than walk sleep and eat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 15:17:34 No.2528013 Report

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>>2528005
that makes you a larper, because you dont min/max your gear in order to hike the PCT, a trail that you have no ambitions of ever setting foot on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 15:20:14 No.2528014 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525574
One video is about learning bushcrafting/survival skills, and the other is about long distance hiking. I don't see the point you're trying to make. Apples and oranges. Might as well be comparing street cycling to skateboarding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 15:50:27 No.2528020 Report

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>>2525582
the bushcrafter sounds lame, but as if the ultra-lighter isn't doing it because his dad was never proud of him so he has to hike tourist trails with as little weight as possible so he can set a faster time and feel a sense of acomplishment for a brief nanosecond

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 17:23:13 No.2528044 Report

Quoted By: >>2528065

>>2527983
Just wanted to toss it out there that I don’t believe the 30 mile, 60lb pack guy. Not gonna try to prove he’s lying or anything she annecdotal evidence or whatever. I just thi k he’s full of shit and it’s kind of pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 17:25:51 No.2528047 Report

Quoted By: >>2529861

>>2526983
Yeah, I mean…
>30 mile day? Ok.
>60lb pack? Sure.
>Both of those things? Alright, maybe, I guess.
>Both of those things for weeks on end? Hahaha, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 17:30:52 No.2528050 Report

Quoted By: >>2528063

are outists seriously getting jealous of a guy who can backpack your average weeklong trip weight long distance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 17:49:51 No.2528063 Report

Quoted By: >>2528088

>>2528050
lolno
his story has changed numerous times before this thread if you've followed his posts in other threads. he went from claiming he's done this hike through norway once to claiming he does it every summer.
its fake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 17:51:12 No.2528065 Report

Quoted By: >>2528088

>>2528044
>>2527983
no point proving how fake his posts are. he's changed his story too many times to be believable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:07:43 No.2528088 Report

Quoted By: >>2528184 >>2528635

>>2528063
>>2528065
I'm still here. Its not fake. The way you cherrypick and exaggerate stuff. You have some kind of complex emotional issue I'll not bother to disect.

Most people can learn to do 50km/day for a few days or even a week. The weight depends on your build. Some people can only achieve 45lbs. Others can work up to 70lbs. It's not that hard. Its like deadlifting 400lbs. If you've never done it it will seem impossible except you can probably get you there in 6 to 12 months if you are not overweight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 23:21:42 No.2528184 Report

Quoted By: >>2528323

>>2528088
I've completed the Nijmegen march in the NL carrying 20lbs 45km four days in a row two times when I worked as an infantryman in the Norwegian army. There I witnessed people in their 50s and 60s complete this march, and that is on hard asphalt. Any individual who isn't deformed can with ease in under a year get to a level where they can hike 50km in soft woodland terrain, or varied mountain terrain. The weight you can carry is up to your stature and willpower to acquire the necessary fitness, the amerimutt manlet doubters in here might not be up to the task.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 08:25:47 No.2528312 Report

Quoted By: >>2528318 >>2533327

>>2525870
What do you do for food and water to stay under that weight??

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 09:31:20 No.2528318 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528312
15 pounds is base weight, not including food and water or worn shit. I carry ~10 pounds of food and water. My entire pack is ~26-27 pounds loaded.

Just go to lighterpack and put in all your stuff. Go on a hike, take notes of what you didn't need at all, subtract that from your gear. Keep doing it. Don't go balls to the wall stupid like the UL's you see /out/ make fun of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 09:51:53 No.2528321 Report

Quoted By: >>2528362 >>2528366

>>2527037
Dude 60 pounds isn't that much. That's just the difference between someone who weighs 145 and 205 pounds. As someone who has weighed both of those weights recently, it wasn't a massive subjective difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 10:33:46 No.2528323 Report

Quoted By: >>2528343

>>2528184
At what pace? How many hours are you walking each day?
Big difference between 20lb and 60lb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 12:39:16 No.2528343 Report

Quoted By: >>2528364

>>2528323
12h is the limit each day, usually most walkers do it in 8, however people from recon units often finish it in sub 5h. Now, the difference here is that the march is on asphalt, which is far harder to walk on compared to natural terrain. The Nijmegen march is just a standardized example that you can google and see for yourself. Anecdotally i can tell you that zoomer conscripts can pull off 40km per day for a week long exercise with rucks ranging from 50-80lbs (depending on their task within the platoon) within a few months of training. However most people posting on /out/ aren't disciplined enough to get to that level of fitness themselves and to them it will seem as an impossible task.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 14:36:45 No.2528362 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528321
Its not much for a distance under 10 miles and as the weight increases body weight and pack weight endurance becomes much harder which is why endurance athletes are all light unless youre nick symmonds, chris Solinsky or myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 14:41:48 No.2528364 Report

Quoted By: >>2528419

>>2528343
Asphalt is easier than trails. Like i said i’m not talking about rucking around runway. And military standards are pathetically low all around the world. 25 miles a day with 80 pounds isn’t happening more than 2-3 days in a row.
Stop moving the goal post. Fat larper said he casually walks 30 miles per day with 60 lbs. the only people who think that is possible are people who have never hiked 30 miles a day or 30 miles per day back to back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 14:43:00 No.2528366 Report

Quoted By: >>2535023

>>2528321
Take it for a 30 mile hike for 7 days then tell me how heavy it is

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 15:01:43 No.2528369 Report

Quoted By: >>2528539 >>2528667 >>2528913 >>2528929 >>2529429 >>2530843 >>2530905 >>2535035

I’m done arguing with larpers. Most people itt know you’re full of shit. Here’s a pic of me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 18:11:42 No.2528419 Report

Quoted By: >>2529853

>>2528364
>Asphalt is easier than trails
No it is not, asphalt will literally ruin your legs and especially feet within a few days. Trails with varied surfaces, from soft to solid will keep you going 10x as long as asphalt. Keep on projecting your physical inferiority, for a full sized man, well fed and active there is no issue with 5+ days 40km per day 80lbs load.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 00:06:44 No.2528527 Report

Quoted By:

>>2527979
For 7 days? No, I dont think this is sustainable or doable for more than a day unless your life is on the line.
>>2527983
>Its not a single day effort I’m arguing it’s some larper claiming he does it for 7 straight days.
Then I agree. For 7 days straight is not happening. You'll lack sleep, water and wont have enough rest for your body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 00:21:12 No.2528536 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525575
How the FUCK is this 50lb of gear?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 00:27:55 No.2528539 Report

Quoted By: >>2529854 >>2535026

>>2528369
Based. People are really in here bragging about “hiking” on flat asphalt with 20lbs in their pack lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 04:22:25 No.2528618 Report

Quoted By: >>2535041

>>2525623
This is a misconception, you can read hiking manuals from the 30s and 60s with minimalist gearlists and recommendations not to overpack, fuckers carried 15-20 lb packs hatchets included

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 05:24:14 No.2528635 Report

Quoted By: >>2528707

>>2528088
Whats the point though? It takes the enjoyment out of the trip. Instead of enjoying nature you're being slowly compressed by your huge pack and can't focus on anything except the finish line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 06:09:17 No.2528650 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525574
That guy actually has a ton of really serious health issues. I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to be too far away from civilization and the specialized medical care he needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 06:19:14 No.2528652 Report

Quoted By:

>>2526911
The dude owns a gym, is a coach and sells programs, while also competing in amateur strongman and powerlifting. He's more in shape than you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 06:42:20 No.2528654 Report

Quoted By: >>2528669

>>2525619
Brian Robeson survived the Canadian wilderness with nothing but a windbreaker and a hatchet. He wasn’t even 18 yet. There’s no excuse for needing this much gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 07:28:15 No.2528667 Report

Quoted By: >>2529852

>>2528369
Tikka?
What's it chambered for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 07:33:28 No.2528669 Report

Quoted By: >>2529110

>>2528654
The natives survived with nothing. There's no excuse to need anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:12:45 No.2528707 Report

Quoted By: >>2528791

>>2528635
Thats something an unfit person says.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 15:42:00 No.2528791 Report

Quoted By: >>2528890 >>2528932

>>2528707
I guarantee I'm more fit than you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 19:19:48 No.2528890 Report

Quoted By: >>2528918

>>2528791
show abs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 19:37:53 No.2528898 Report

Quoted By: >>2534031 >>2534820

>>2525574
I would rather have a single tarp than an entire ultralight set up in the mountains, every single piece of that shit looks flat out useless if you plan on anything more than a picnic
>>2525575
This fag needs at least 4x that amount of paracord also what the fuck is the deal with the skillet and the twine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 19:57:04 No.2528913 Report

Quoted By: >>2529850

>>2528369
that packs not 60 pounds sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 20:02:37 No.2528918 Report

Quoted By: >>2528919

>>2528890
Abs have nothing to do with fitness you filthy larper

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 20:03:47 No.2528919 Report

Quoted By: >>2528920

>>2528918
>healthy at any size bigot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 20:04:38 No.2528920 Report

Quoted By: >>2528934 >>2535037

>>2528919
My BMI is 18. I don't have good abs because I don't do ab exercises like a faggot (You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 20:26:57 No.2528929 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528369
based, dyel's on every board now man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 20:31:54 No.2528932 Report

Quoted By: >>2528974

>>2528791
I guarantee you, you're not, as youve already proven by your comment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 20:32:58 No.2528934 Report

Quoted By: >>2528972 >>2528977

>>2528920
You literally get abs for free by hiking. Carrying heavy improves core, deadlifts, squats, ohp, all work core.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 21:45:15 No.2528972 Report

Quoted By: >>2528976 >>2529446

>>2528934
>You literally get abs for free by hiking.
No you don't retard

>Carrying heavy improves core, deadlifts, squats, ohp, all work core.
Who gives a shit about muh lifting, having big muscles fucks with your cardio which slows you down on hikes (and canoe trips)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 21:46:15 No.2528974 Report

Quoted By: >>2529448

>>2528932
I guarantee I am, as proven by my own comment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 21:52:57 No.2528976 Report

Quoted By: >>2529185

>>2528972
>and canoe trips
speaking of canoe trips and gymbros, I've come across guys who have arms and shoulders twice as big as mine, but still struggled to portage their canoes and scratched their canoes up by dropping it repeatedly because they didn't know proper technique. They try to strict lift it over their head and carry it with their shoulders. I've seen this numerous times. I have nothing against gymbros, but at least try to use your brain. Just because you can lift 100 lbs in a strict press doesn't mean you can carry a 75lb canoe for half a mile, nor would you want to even if you could, because it uses way more energy than necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 21:53:25 No.2528977 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528934
Muh six pack isn't even a 'sign' of a strong core or "fitness"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 01:13:07 No.2529110 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528669
>The natives survived
did they, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 03:21:51 No.2529177 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525574
Hey that's me. I pack exactly 25 items:

1. A full size sofa
2. 24 cans of beer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 03:28:21 No.2529182 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525575
All this I-saw-it-on-another-Insta garbage is regular tarded but the draw knife is double triple special tarded.

>I'm surviving in the wild for a few hours to make a video but I might also build a cabin with furniture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 03:32:26 No.2529185 Report

Quoted By: >>2529215

>>2528976
>lift 100 lbs in a strict press
Do you think that’s a lot? Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 04:34:31 No.2529215 Report

Quoted By: >>2529431

>>2529185
imagine how small your penis would have to be to make this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 04:48:22 No.2529219 Report

Quoted By: >>2529334

>>2525821
"Knives" is the plural word of knife, brainlet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 12:52:49 No.2529327 Report

Quoted By:

one of the nicest thing about ultralighting is that you can bike for much longer with a backpack (not bikepacking) if you intend to bike to trailhead and continue on foot, biking with a heavy backpack is a pain in the ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 13:13:02 No.2529334 Report

Quoted By:

>>2529219
There's only a single draw knife, brainlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 17:45:28 No.2529429 Report

Quoted By: >>2529440 >>2530843

>>2528369
Your fit looks like you take dicks on the regular up the ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 17:50:46 No.2529431 Report

Quoted By: >>2529452

>>2529215
Bro, 100lb strict press isn’t some meathead number. All you did by posting that was prove that you’re either incredibly weak because consider a 100lb press very strong, or have never done any kind of overhead barbell press.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 17:58:58 No.2529437 Report

Quoted By:

>Hiking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:06:50 No.2529440 Report

Quoted By: >>2529444 >>2530843

>>2529429
>caring about fucking fashion
jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:11:36 No.2529444 Report

Quoted By: >>2529450

>>2529440
Imagine liking to look like your stepped out of an REI clown show of colors or out of a techwear demo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:12:38 No.2529446 Report

Quoted By: >>2529451 >>2529453 >>2530338

>>2528972
This is the most broscience shit Ive heard. Yes, hiking improves you core. What do you think stabilizes you?

Having big muscles doesnt fuck with your cardio, those are two different things.
>inb4picofmarathonrunner
Take a look at most military dudes carrying heavy. Muscular and good cardio. Now get /out/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:13:40 No.2529448 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528974
Youre not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:14:41 No.2529450 Report

Quoted By: >>2529454

>>2529444
oh no the fucking insects they care what you look like bro I bet that makes you anxious owh shit better change

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:14:50 No.2529451 Report

Quoted By: >>2529453 >>2530004

>>2529446
>Having big muscles doesnt fuck with your cardio, those are two different things.
Of course it does. Look at any professional long distance runner or cyclist. They look like twinks for a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:16:06 No.2529452 Report

Quoted By: >>2529485

>>2529431
I used 100lb because it's a bit more than an average canoe. My point was that just because something is easy in a gym setting doesn't mean it's easy in a canoe setting. Not doing those meathead stereotypes any favours bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:16:15 No.2529453 Report

Quoted By: >>2529535 >>2530004

>>2529446
>>2529451
Australian SAS and the RAR recce groups reject people for being too muscular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:17:13 No.2529454 Report

Quoted By: >>2529455

>>2529450
>t. never camped

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:19:07 No.2529455 Report

Quoted By: >>2529457

>>2529454
>muh I uhh I uhhh I don't look good arg I need that 600 dollar jacket because x celebrity wore it omg I don't have drip ugh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:21:20 No.2529457 Report

Quoted By: >>2529458

>>2529455
>thinking drip is an insult
Even cavemen groomed. I'd imagine you'd be a real hit back then when everything was /out/ covered in tactical donkey shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:22:05 No.2529458 Report

Quoted By: >>2529461

>>2529457
You're seething because of a guys outfit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:26:23 No.2529461 Report

Quoted By: >>2529462

>>2529458
I like how you agreed about you being covered in literal shit with that.
>coated in crap
>"Hah, SEETHING, Gonta? Me no need look good. Look good=look bad; who want look bad?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:29:00 No.2529462 Report

Quoted By: >>2529463

>>2529461
No that's what it comes down to. You're arguing over a guys fucking outfit and assuming that he must never have gone camping because of what he's wearing when the picture clearly shows the guy is /out/ jesus this is autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:30:20 No.2529463 Report

Quoted By: >>2529469

>>2529462
It must be your outfit, since you're defending it so damn hard. Or are you his mommy who dresses her little boy and got feewings hwurty?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:39:40 No.2529469 Report

Quoted By: >>2529474

>>2529463
Why are faggots so hell bent on giving fashion advice to other men.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:44:45 No.2529474 Report

Quoted By: >>2529481 >>2531705

>>2529469
>dude posts fit voluntarily
>"hey bro, maybe look less like a fag"
>shockedpikachu,jpeg

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:50:18 No.2529481 Report

Quoted By: >>2529482

>>2529474
>shockedpikachu,jpeg
Yep fuck off back to where ever it is you came from faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 18:52:11 No.2529482 Report

Quoted By:

>>2529481
>memeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeme!
>rrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 19:00:43 No.2529485 Report

Quoted By: >>2529491

>>2529452
You had a point to make but all you managed to do was make yourself look like a weak, clueless faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 19:13:17 No.2529491 Report

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>>2529485
Says the low IQer who can't understand context

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2023 20:41:01 No.2529535 Report

Quoted By: >>2535955

>>2529453
>Australian SAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 15:49:32 No.2529850 Report

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>>2528913
You’re right its closer to 90lbs. The horns skull and cape weight 40lbs by themselves, there is a quarter or two and some loose meat. Plus gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 15:50:48 No.2529852 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528667
30-06 it 5.9 lbs. superlite model. Good enough for bear defense which is my only purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 15:53:20 No.2529853 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528419
Soft ground absorbs energy that’s why road running times are faster than trail running times. You’ll burn less calories on asphalt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 15:54:55 No.2529854 Report

Quoted By: >>2529856 >>2535026

>>2528539
Miltary wannabe larpers i’m guessing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 15:58:44 No.2529856 Report

Quoted By:

>>2529854
80% of the military are larpers.
"What did you do?"
"Oh, uh, ummm..."
>was a cook
>was a truck driver
>was a L1 tech
"It's uh, classified."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 16:02:01 No.2529861 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528047
Yup. Anyone who has done 30 miles a day or 60lbs understands that fatigue compounds with each mile and each day. Even if you are 250 and the 60lbs is a low percentage of your weight well guess what? I doubt a 250 lbs man has ever hiked 30 miles a day for a week with nothing lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 21:05:18 No.2530004 Report

Quoted By: >>2530016 >>2530020 >>2530028

>>2529451
No they dont. Those guys are muscular you retarded ape, they're just low on fat. You have no idea about fitness you fat mong.
>>2529453
>too muscular
Is a subjective take. And without looking at the context of why they dont want low fat/roid muscles in their unit, you look like a fool.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 21:14:55 No.2530016 Report

Quoted By: >>2530020 >>2530338

>>2530004
>Those guys are muscular you retarded ape, they're just low on fat.
This is what you call muscular?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 21:16:04 No.2530020 Report

Quoted By: >>2530338

>>2530004
>>2530016
wow look how jacked this marathon runner is

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 21:25:01 No.2530028 Report

Quoted By:

>>2530004
>muscular Tour de France 2019 winner Egan Bernal
truly a physique optimized for living heavy objects

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2023 23:59:35 No.2530137 Report

Quoted By:

holy shit you retards are still fighting over that? atleast ultralighters go outside..

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2023 10:27:33 No.2530338 Report

Quoted By: >>2530444 >>2530775

>>2530020 >>2530020 >>2530016
See >>2529446
Again, marathon and cycling are different sports where LOW FAT is desired. These guys are still muscular, they still work out, it's not the muscles that dilrecetly affect them.
Unbelievable how unfit these boardroamers are

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2023 11:38:52 No.2530359 Report

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I just hiked the W Trek in Torres del Paine and a large group had hired porters to transport their stuff down the trail. They were Flextrek Whipsnake 37,000,000,000,000™ ing it down the trail at blazing speeds. Made me feel like a slow fatass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2023 14:33:52 No.2530423 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525821
cast iron is probably the best untencil to cook on because it provides iron to the body through the food cooked on it also you dont have to clean it , it's better not to if it's "seasoned" and it wont break on you. Also as a last resort it can be a useful bludgeoning weapon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2023 15:21:52 No.2530444 Report

Quoted By: >>2530479 >>2530888

>>2530338
>they still work out
The only working out they do is cardio related. They have small muscles that are not adapted to lifting heavy objects. Because big muscles are counterproductive to cardio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2023 16:42:21 No.2530479 Report

Quoted By: >>2530888

>>2530444
100 % correct the guy you are arguing with is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 08:54:41 No.2530773 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525740
>that hairline
drop all gear and get a hat asap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 08:57:52 No.2530774 Report

Quoted By:

>>2526326
my mom has the same gun. cool!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 09:12:55 No.2530775 Report

Quoted By:

>>2530338
>These guys are still muscular
...No they aren't.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 15:03:07 No.2530839 Report

Quoted By: >>2531687 >>2531713 >>2536018

So I payed about 200$ plus tax and shipping about 220$ for a survival bag.
How prepared/ready am i now?
>not as good as self made kit
It could still get me through like half a week/or whole week of survival right? (depending how i ration)

I honestly feel like if you make it like a few days or half a week through emergencies and junk.
You have like a 99% better chance at longer survival.
Right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 15:20:34 No.2530843 Report

Quoted By: >>2530949 >>2530954 >>2535029

>>2528369
>I’m done arguing with larpers
nigger give me a SINGLE reason i need 60 pounds of gear if i'm not hunting
also you look like a legit twink. you look like the sort of white boy i'd get excited to see in prison intake.
>>2529429
its sad how many queers on this board care about what kind of fashion statement they're making in the woods.
i bet you're the kind of crusty unwashed faggot who attends sneaker cons. nigger supreme made a toothbrush and toothpaste. they collabed, you can wash your fucking yukmouth now.
>>2529440
you were going full queer eye for the straight guy yourself earlier itt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 18:23:37 No.2530888 Report

Quoted By: >>2530892

>>2530444
Yeah, exactly, so when you want to lift something, you workout, like you do with hiking.
Big muscles are again subjective and when you have to pick a marathon runner, the most extreme case of longevity running to prove that its not useful for hiking, youre simply retarded.
>>2530479
Samefag

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 18:33:43 No.2530892 Report

Quoted By: >>2530957 >>2535027

>>2530888
>so when you want to lift something, you workout, like you do with hiking.
This retard trains for hiking by doing squats in the gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 19:14:25 No.2530905 Report

Quoted By: >>2530947

>>2528369
the largest mountains in your country are the size of the ones in my back yard. if i lived and hiked on flat ground i wouldn't care about weight either. 60lbs is a whole different beast when you're scrambling up 50 degree grades.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 19:22:15 No.2530908 Report

Quoted By:

anons need to understand that not everyone's experience /out/ is the same. the world is a big place and we don't all live in the same region. unless you've travelled internationally there's barely anything comparable in your country to my average dayhikes just in terms of steepness. if we have the same weight pack and the same exact body i have to burn like twice as many calories of energy as you per mile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 19:25:30 No.2530909 Report

Quoted By:

what even is the steepest grade mountain path in scandinavia? i couldn't find anything over like 30 degrees but i could be wrong i did the math and ameriburger unit conversions in my head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 21:20:04 No.2530947 Report

Quoted By:

>>2530905
Pic is from Alaska you dumb fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 21:21:07 No.2530949 Report

Quoted By:

>>2530843
Do you even know the fuck your responding to?
>twink
Jealous powershitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 21:27:05 No.2530954 Report

Quoted By:

>>2530843
>2529429
>its sad how many queers on this board care about what kind of fashion statement they're making in the woods.

Says the guy calling me a twink lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 21:37:12 No.2530957 Report

Quoted By: >>2530968

>>2530892
Yes. Thats literally how you get stronger and are able to hike off trails. Once you go out youll understand, but right now Is suspect youre just the typical day/trail hiker from an anglo country.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Jan 2023 22:09:40 No.2530968 Report

Quoted By: >>2531105

>>2530957
Look at all this projection

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 05:22:17 No.2531083 Report

Quoted By: >>2531136 >>2531212

Whats the best lightest backpack that can be used for survivalism? How big is the difference between survivalist ultralight bags and ultralight bags in general? I want to always carry around my survivalist shit even on work commute. Also anons do you happen to find your phones annoying for long hikes, weight wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 06:54:14 No.2531105 Report

Quoted By: >>2531215

>>2530968
Look at you not being able to carry 60lbs

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Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 07:37:53 No.2531109 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525574
>i live in spain without the S

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 11:21:59 No.2531136 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531083
>Whats the best lightest backpack that can be used for survivalism?
dunno probably something from seekoutside
>Also anons do you happen to find your phones annoying for long hikes, weight wise?
yes modern phones are too big to pocket while hiking now. the last few years phones have gotten so big that i switched to keeping my phone in a fanny pack. putting a magnetic holder on your pack strap works too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 17:21:23 No.2531212 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531083
>survivalist ultralight bags
never heard of this, ultralight bags have pretty thin material and will have less features to get the weight down like no frame and no hip belts on the very lightweight end (dont really need hip belts them if you're carrying 5lbs). They wouldnt be very good for something like bushwacking or offtrail, maybe aim for a backpack around 2lbs and you will get a much more durable one while actual ultralight backpacks will be 1lbs or under.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 17:30:05 No.2531215 Report

Quoted By: >>2531269

>>2531105
Who the hell hikes with a 60lb pack? My pack doesn't go over 30lbs even when I bring my 3 person front country camping tent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 18:24:58 No.2531233 Report

Quoted By: >>2531351

>>2525574
>>Gear fits in 20 liter backpack
Fine, but why take a 20 litre when a 40 is still a low-weight bag (generally)?

If you're carrying a backpack, you're carrying a backpack. Got the straps on, it's rubbing on your spine, you feel it. Might as well haul double the capacity and actually have everything you need, while also still carrying pretty lightly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 18:37:14 No.2531236 Report

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>>2526335
Our Ray

Grew up watching Mears on TV, wholesome Sunday night entertainment for a young lad. Love 'im I do!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 20:13:00 No.2531269 Report

Quoted By: >>2531271 >>2531321 >>2531351

>>2531215
someone who does anything more advanced than day/trail hiking. Pack, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, tent, extra clothing/warm clothing, fuel, multifuel stove, first aid, spare batteries, water, food, misc. equipment, and then any equipment needed to tackle the enviorment, f.ex. snowshoes, crampons, harness, ropes, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 20:24:56 No.2531271 Report

Quoted By: >>2531290 >>2531731 >>2531802

>>2531269
That 30lbs I was referring to is when I go for a single night camping in the fall with all my warm gear. Might bump it up a few lbs for each extra day. I honestly don't understand what you're packing that would weigh so much. Are you bringing your cast iron kitchen set, a maul, and fresh produce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 21:53:30 No.2531290 Report

Quoted By: >>2531313 >>2531322 >>2531351 >>2531470

>>2531271
no. Stove and dry meals. If you're going out for weeks that's ideally what you'd bring + a few treats. The water itself is 5kg/11lbs. Fuel about 2lbs. Tent is close to 8lbs. Sleeping bag close to 6lbs. and so on. it quickly adds up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 23:07:20 No.2531313 Report

Quoted By: >>2531323 >>2531470

>>2531290
>The water itself is 5kg/11lbs.
Ok I see the problem here. I just bring a filter because I always camp near water.

>Sleeping bag close to 6lbs.
What the fuck? my sleeping bag is barely over 2lbs and it's a fairly cheap one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 23:22:47 No.2531321 Report

Quoted By: >>2531470

>>2531269
>Pack, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, tent, extra clothing/warm clothing, fuel, multifuel stove, first aid, spare batteries, water, food, misc. equipment
how's that 60lbs?
all that shit is like 10lbs for me, but i live somewhere with frequent water sources so its braindead to travel with water unless i go out in the desert.
>snowshoes, crampons, harness, ropes, etc.
climbing gear isnt 50lbs
where's the 60lbs?
like actually, no bullshit vaguery, what SPECIFICALLY other than hunting or hard core expedition style mountaineering would ever conceivably require 60lbs of gear in 2023 not 1970?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 23:24:32 No.2531322 Report

Quoted By: >>2531470

>>2531290
>Sleeping bag close to 6lbs. and so on. it quickly adds up.
i think you just need to buy higher quality gear. my 0 degree bag weighs like 2.5lbs and there's no difference in warmth comfort or anything between it and a 6lb one. the only difference is higher quality/more expensive down and higher quality shell materials with a better thought out design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 23:26:03 No.2531323 Report

Quoted By: >>2531324 >>2531470

>>2531313
You’re talking to someone with the ‘tism who desperately wants to be seen as a hardcore /out/ist. If he was hardcore he’d be bragging about the lightness of his pack not the heaviness

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Jan 2023 23:27:50 No.2531324 Report

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>>2531323
for real the only time i've had 60lb on my back was hauling shit out to set up a base camp for an expedition. and the only reason i had so much weight was just to flex and make everyone's life easier it wasn't necessary to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Jan 2023 00:49:40 No.2531351 Report

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>>2531233
If all of your gear fit in a 20L bag you'd be hauling around half of a backpack for no reason. Especially for frameless or partial framed packs it would also be a lot of flop as the struggle of the bag comes from filling it. I have a small 35L for most short trips and a 70L for winter; ultralight def means something different in summer than winter.

>>2531269
Winter time is different but base weights of 12lbs are not uncommon in summer. That's over 20lbs of of water and food and no where near 60lbs.

>>2531290
+14lb sleep gear without a pad and no water at the sight. My man is setting up a FOB in the desert by himself. Pics of your advanced base camp in Montana wilds or take the L.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Jan 2023 09:22:17 No.2531470 Report

Quoted By: >>2531802

>>2531313
Ita rated for down to -40C extreme. It easily gets -20 to -30 here during winter.
>>2531321
See >>2531290 this was already answered.
>>2531322
I have no use for a 0 degrees sleeping bag unless I only plan on going out during the warmest summer.
>>2531323
Projecting I see. Going lightweight is easy, especially in this day and age when its the normie trend. I simply don't care that much about how lightweight things *have* to be when I can carry it no matter what. The only thing I care about is how challenging the trip is. Alternatively you can always offload some of the packweight on a pulk

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Anonymous Sat 28 Jan 2023 17:39:14 No.2531575 Report

Quoted By: >>2532220

there's a lot of weak ass dude in this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 00:05:40 No.2531687 Report

Quoted By: >>2531691

>>2530839
Since no one said no, i'll assume i'm right, thanks out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 00:10:05 No.2531691 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531687
Better than nothing. Sleeping bag and more food and more containers for water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 00:28:01 No.2531697 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525575
I don't want to comment on the loadout but I hate how feminine every hobby has become.
This one's pretty thotty but the worst are the "EDC" people who post their cool gun next to a bunch of other trinkets and they probably think it's super manly but it actually looks like a woman took a picture of her lipstick and other accessories. It's all so feminized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 00:42:13 No.2531705 Report

Quoted By: >>2531728

>>2529474
>Guy who hunts in Alaska>some faggot zoomer who calls clothing a “fit”

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 00:48:56 No.2531708 Report

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>>2526325
>>2526326
> cast iron paying pan

Cool rug though, post a picture of that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 00:54:48 No.2531713 Report

Quoted By: >>2531724 >>2531745 >>2531891

>>2530839

You need gun, may I suggest the Ruger LCR?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 01:19:27 No.2531724 Report

Quoted By: >>2531891 >>2535031

>>2531713
Pure survival you want a ruger 22lr takedown with magpul stock. Really only need sleeping bag food (lots of food) and water filter.
Powdered milk, honey, rice, butter, ghee. Stuff like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 01:26:28 No.2531728 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531705
He was just mad he wasn’t fat so he had to make some insult

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 01:38:14 No.2531731 Report

Quoted By: >>2531776

>>2531271
>single night
oh fucking christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 01:39:52 No.2531732 Report

Quoted By:

>>2526335
>not knowing how to make a sorrel tart.
NGMI

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 02:13:27 No.2531745 Report

Quoted By: >>2531891

>>2531713
Hammerless wheelguns are a sin. Just buy a semi-auto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 03:43:18 No.2531776 Report

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>>2531731
You've never gone camping for a single night?

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 04:46:38 No.2531802 Report

Quoted By: >>2531813 >>2531886 >>2535070 >>2535235

>>2531470
>I have no use for a 0 degrees sleeping bag unless I only plan on going out during the warmest summer.
i'm speaking in american units not foreigner faggot units. we're talking about the same sleeping bag temp rating, a 0*F = -20*C. my bag weighs under 2.5lbs and there is no difference in warmth or comfort from your 6lb bag. i just paid for higher quality down and better materials.
right there that's 3.5 pounds of uselessness.
you're just inefficient, anyone with a brain can bring all the same gear as you and be just as prepared for just as difficult of trips at half weight or less.
>walking with 11lb water
also bro where the fuck are you camping where its fucking -30*c out but you can't find snow to boil?
you know this is super dumb and nobody does it right?
>>2531271
>1 night
>30lbs
fuck's sake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 05:12:47 No.2531811 Report

Quoted By:

meanwhile true outdoorsman who see being outside as routine and not as a trip you prepare for think you're both faggots and drive up logging trails with whatever they need in their vehicle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 05:14:24 No.2531813 Report

Quoted By: >>2531815

>>2531802
if there is a significant difference between 2.5lbs and 6lbs or even 10lbs to you as far as your ability to hike long distances comfortably, you are a weak tiny soi faggot.

while you're boiling snow I'm still hiking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 05:21:32 No.2531815 Report

Quoted By: >>2531816 >>2531817 >>2531887 >>2535034

>>2531813
>if there is a significant difference between 2.5lbs and 6lbs or even 10lbs to you as far as your ability to hike long distances comfortably, you are a weak tiny soi faggot.
as we established earlier in this thread, you mostly travel flat ground and i mostly travel mountain grades that don't exist in your part of the world.
>if there is a significant difference between 2.5lbs and 6lbs or even 10lbs
sounds like you're coping.
your 6lb sleeping bag offers no benefit over my 2.5 one other than being a more approachable price point for casuals who only hike once a year. if you actually hike as much as you do spending $500 on a high quality sleeping bag should be a no brainer.
>if there is a significant difference between 2.5lbs and 6lbs or even 10lbs
sounds like you're coping.
you miss the entire point of my post. these "small" weights add up quickly if you don't put any thought into it.
my point is you're not hiking with 60lbs of gear because you need 60lbs of gear.
you're not doing it out of necessity, nor are you actually bringing as much gear as you think.
you're just making in-efficient and poor decisions with your loadout. any normal reasonable person can be at the same level of preparedness as you at 1/3 the weight.
>while you're boiling snow I'm still hiking.
this comment really seals the deal on me calling you out for being a fake larper. you don't long distance thru hike by carrying all your water on you at once. if you pack 11lb of water in its going to be drank or stale in a few days and you're back to boiling snow. if you've ever long distance hiked before like you claim you would know this.
cements the fact that you've never done it before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 05:40:10 No.2531816 Report

Quoted By: >>2535036

>>2531815
jesus, didn't read a word of this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 05:41:31 No.2531817 Report

Quoted By: >>2531883

>>2531815
actually I just read the first line. I haven't posted in this thread at all until around half an hour ago. I hike the hell out of the rockies and the cascades.

there is no significant difference between 2.5lbs and 10lbs on any kind of hike. if there is you need to get healthier. a wall of text isn't going to change that.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 08:42:21 No.2531868 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525574

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 10:31:27 No.2531883 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531817
>there is no significant difference between 2.5lbs and 10lbs on any kind of hike.
retard detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 10:36:20 No.2531886 Report

Quoted By: >>2532266

>>2531802
What bag do you use then?
The issue isnt finding water/snow, the issue is not having to stop all the time to boil snow, its inefficent and uses more fuel. Its better to instead carry a bit extra and actively refill using snow you find and melt that using bodyheat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 10:38:23 No.2531887 Report

Quoted By: >>2532266

>>2531815
>as we established earlier in this thread, you mostly travel flat ground and i mostly travel mountain grades that don't exist in your part of the world
You are refering to the wrong anon, I literally stated I dont hike flat ground, which is why I bring special equipment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 10:51:37 No.2531889 Report

Quoted By: >>2532119

I personally do not really see the appeal of hiking. I like going far enough into the forest that you'll never meet anyone, set up camp, and then camp there for a few days fishing and exploring the nearby area.

For me? It is gonna have to be the bushcrafters instead of the thruhikers. All YouTubers excluded though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 11:12:06 No.2531891 Report

Quoted By: >>2535038

>>2531713
>>2531724
> > You need gun, may I suggest the Ruger LCR?
> Pure survival you want a ruger 22lr takedown with magpul stock.

Anon bought a basic survival bug-out bag for a situation where he might need to bail out of his home for a while but where services will eventually be back up and running, something like Hurricane Katrina or an earthquake in California.

We're not talking about Mad Max post-apocalyptic conditions fighting off zombie biker gangs and hunting for food inna woods, what's needed is a small, light and reliable handgun for fending off a ni... looter criminal and avoid being arrested by the cops at a road block for carrying a large and awkward to pack rifle.

>>2531745
> Hammerless wheelguns are a sin. Just buy a semi-auto.

Small, light, easy to shoot, (a wife/girlfriend might need to use it) reasonably priced (mine was $400) and reliable is what's needed and revolvers fit the bill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 20:39:40 No.2532119 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531889
Bushcraft wouldn’t exist without youtube

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 23:52:53 No.2532206 Report

Quoted By:

I pack 50lb with regularity, but most of it is climbing gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 23:55:58 No.2532208 Report

Quoted By: >>2532266 >>2533311 >>2535038

OK, I'll say it: most backpacks are absolute garbage. Osprey packs don't even last a trip let alone a season. They're designed for weekenders who walk manicured trails and post selfies on Facebook about their "adventure"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 00:08:39 No.2532220 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531575
yeh.
>nobody here was a bike courrier/ mortarman
none of you know what weight is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 02:37:10 No.2532266 Report

Quoted By: >>2532321

>>2532208
get a robic nylon pack like the shit ula makes i'm still a year away from retiring my pack from 2010.
>>2531887
negro what 60lbs special equipment? i grew up in nw colorado.
>>2531886
0* feathered friends mummy
20* hammock gear premium quilt maxed options
40* diy apex
there's a lot of other good brands too i just like ff because they're local to me.
>stopping constantly
get a big ass aluminum boiling pot
aluminum so it can deform a little in your pack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 02:44:55 No.2532268 Report

Quoted By:

https://youtu.be/9L2Fbe1EviA
here's a full time backpacker sperg showing his robic pack that's about a decade old next to a new one. mine's about as worn out as his. fuckers last forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 02:47:25 No.2532270 Report

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any normal ass gridstop nylon pack should last forever if you slightly baby it
don't be fooled by marketing ginmicks like waterproof, we all use a trashbag liner anyways.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:32:42 No.2532321 Report

Quoted By: >>2533152 >>2533177 >>2535910 >>2535948

>>2532266
>negro what 60lbs special equipment? i grew up in nw colorado
Pic related
>0* feathered friends mummy
>20* hammock gear premium quilt maxed options
>40* diy apex
What are the ratings for these compared to weight and and price?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:38:58 No.2532323 Report

Quoted By: >>2533147

>>2525623
>I do 1000 miles every summer with 60 pounds. That's normal in Sweden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jan 2023 00:38:25 No.2532664 Report

Quoted By:

larp bros snag em https://www.wiggys.com/specials/crossfire-game-carrier-pack/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2023 04:10:16 No.2533096 Report

Quoted By:

>>2526326
>based decoy wallet carrier

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2023 08:18:24 No.2533147 Report

Quoted By:

>>2532323
That's Scandinavia for you. You americans are some really weak, short and fat people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2023 08:42:12 No.2533152 Report

Quoted By: >>2533227

>>2532321
Not the anon you replied to, but jusy use LighterPack ffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2023 11:58:04 No.2533177 Report

Quoted By: >>2533227

>>2532321
https://lighterpack.com/ to make your gear lists readable when sharing them in the future.
>Pic related
you pack an absurd amount of water imo. that's the exact same volume i carry through the desert to put things in perspective. its been like 10yrs since i lived in colorado but i remember there's pretty frequent water sources out there. don't blame you if you want to avoid all the parasites out in the rockies i guess.
your shelter is really heavy.
>What are the ratings for these compared to weight and and price?
first bag is 0* comfort rating, 42oz, and about $700
second bag is 20* comfort rating, 22oz, and about $450
comfort ratings aren't standard across brands. both these bags are a bit under-rated and are comfortable a bit lower than the stated temps. so these bags are particularly warm for their ratings.
and the summer bag is like 30-40* comfort rating, it weighs like 16 or 18oz i forgot, and it cost me about $50 for the materials to make it off ripstopbytheroll.
i didn't pay full price for either of the expensive bags i try to buy animal products used for ethical reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2023 12:13:23 No.2533178 Report

Quoted By:

>weights
everything is going to be a few oz heavier for you anons, im a f*male so all my bags are size short's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2023 15:53:33 No.2533227 Report

Quoted By:

>>2533152
Thank you, this was just a rough list.
>>2533177
Water might be overkill as we have plenty of clean water streams. But the hikes I do tends to justify it.
I do have a summer sleeping bag thats insanely light, but thats mainly useful during the summer only. I might save up for a lighter sleeping bag in the future if the carinthia fails me.
>your shelter is really heavy.
Yeah, but its worth it for the durability and being able to set up essentially anywhere. There are some crazy winds and rain here, even in the low terrain, so its another thing I just have to deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2023 21:33:19 No.2533311 Report

Quoted By: >>2533486

>>2532208
I bought my osprey rook 50 last year as my first bag because I needed one the next day and thats what bass pro had.
it's been on I think.. 8 trips now and I have no signs of wear on it. what are you doing to your bags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2023 23:06:41 No.2533327 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528312
Alot of ultralight nibbas can go weeks just eating trailmix and oats. I couldn't imagine eating like that to be honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2023 02:15:29 No.2533383 Report

Quoted By: >>2533388

I thought the whole point of lightweight gear was enabling you to carry heavy shit you want like a hatchet or a skillet while still carrying a reasonable load.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2023 02:31:45 No.2533388 Report

Quoted By: >>2533408

>>2533383
It can be. Making a few changes once you know what you want and are ready to invest can drop multiple lbs, mostly regarding the shelter and sleeping bag/quilt. If you apply some ultralight strategies, it's very easy to get to 15lbs base weight. And you do end up with extra volume and weight to play around with if you need/want, which might mean camp gadgets or it might mean doubling food or distance. Ultralighters focus a lot on big miles but a lot of the ideas extend to all. For instance of 60lb-anon made an investment in a lighter bag, shelter, and and possibly pack, he could probably double his theoretical time outside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2023 03:36:09 No.2533408 Report

Quoted By:

>>2533388
>For instance of 60lb-anon made an investment in a lighter bag, shelter, and and possibly pack, he could probably double his theoretical time outside.
you'd think a guy like that would know better than to leave gains on the plate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2023 04:37:23 No.2533424 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525918
You are a FAGGOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2023 09:27:19 No.2533486 Report

Quoted By: >>2535236

>>2533311
>I don't bishwhack

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2023 10:28:37 No.2533495 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525575
Cast iron? You’re bringing a gol durn cast iron pan with you? And a saw and an ax and a draw knife?
Who is this guy? Yosemite Sam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2023 18:21:21 No.2534031 Report

Quoted By: >>2534820

>>2528898
There is nothing wrong with twine, its cheap biodegradable and hold things together fine. The fast majority of times in you need a piece of string it doesn't need to be able to hold hundreds of pounds of force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 14:03:40 No.2534820 Report

Quoted By:

>>2534031
>>2528898
pretty sure its nylon tarred bankline twine which is decently strong for most applications, not every knot needs to be tied with 505 paracord.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 21:50:37 No.2535012 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525574
>for not having a dad?
I do not have a father and I do not bring a ton of gear out inna woods.
You type like a faggot, fat, suburbanite.
Imagine needing parents to take care of you well into adult hood.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 21:52:43 No.2535014 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525580
>yep, people like different things
Careful, the obese suburbanites who think they're rural because they drive a truck might get offended you dont care/like what he doesnt like.
I doubt any of you fucking faggots go camping.
>t.real cowboy from leaf land.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 21:55:12 No.2535018 Report

Quoted By: >>2535171 >>2535235

>>2525582
>they never had a strong father figure.
Oh my God, shut the fuck up.
In Canada I would bring flint and steel, a water bottle and some energy bars, Never had parents.
How fucking fat and or short are you?
You do know "father figure" can mean literally any male who's been a positive influence on you. Nah, you're from suburbia you have to be grating as possible to be around.
>Stop liking what I dont like, It makes little timmy upset to know others do different things.
How retarded are you? white boy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 21:58:14 No.2535020 Report

Quoted By:

>>2525821
>Suburbanite glamping.
In Canada, I wouldnt even bother bringing a bag half the time.
He goes to a camp site and pays money to sit around others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glamping
Rich, fat white people tend to do this and think their bushmen for some reason.
Fat fucks tend to never act like men so they have to come up with mental bullshit to pretend to be Le hecking based beards men.
Regality is? I've seen drunk hicks live longer outdoors in a Canadian winter than these suburban fucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:00:50 No.2535022 Report

Quoted By:

>>2527077
>bla bla bla. You are just jelous.
People who type Jealous are usually faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:02:15 No.2535023 Report

Quoted By:

>>2528366
>30 mile hike for 7 days
Are you fucking faggots in the military or some shit? Who the fuck is doing this going camping?

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:03:28 No.2535026 Report

Quoted By: >>2535173

>>2528539
>>2529854
>Stop liking what I dont like!
I really fucking hate this site, You two are from the USA arent you?
No one cares about the military, military faggots are usually short manlets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:04:53 No.2535027 Report

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>>2530892
>squats
A squat is a strength exercise in which the trainee lowers their hips from a standing position and then stands back up. During the descent of a squat, the hip and knee joints flex while the ankle joint dorsiflexes; conversely the hip and knee joints extend and the ankle joint plantarflexes when standing up
This site is full of suburbanite faggots getting upset over the littlest shit just so they can smug post.
Holy fuck, get over yourself you dumb suburbanite cum guzzlers.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:06:20 No.2535029 Report

Quoted By:

>>2530843
>nigger give me a SINGLE reason i need 60 pounds of gear if i'm not hunting
There is none, none of these faggots go hunting, fishing or rucking and even camping.
Most /out/ thing they do is drink a truck, drink shitty beer and go glamping.
>t.Leaf.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:08:09 No.2535031 Report

Quoted By: >>2535235 >>2535236

>>2531724
I think I will take an SKS and leave it at that.
Why a handgun?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:09:33 No.2535034 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531815
>sounds like you're coping.
Learn how that works you fat fag.
cope
kōp
intransitive verb
To contend or strive, especially on even terms or with success.
To contend with difficulties and act to overcome them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:10:53 No.2535035 Report

Quoted By: >>2535198

>>2528369
Why do you shave your arms?

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:11:03 No.2535036 Report

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>>2531816
The only word that fucking faggot knows is "this" "kek" "cope and seethe", This site sucks so badly, I remember prior to 2015 people would actually enjoy things on this site, then the USA faggots found 4chan because they keep getting banned off facebook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:12:33 No.2535037 Report

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>>2528920
Bullshit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:12:50 No.2535038 Report

Quoted By: >>2536081

>>2531891
>ni... looter
Just say nigger you fucking fat fuck.
>>2532208
>OK, I'll say it: most backpacks are absolute garbage
I literally just grab a garbage bag I fine before I walk into the woods, buying gear to hike/camp is the gayest shit ever, pure non cowboy vibes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:14:56 No.2535041 Report

Quoted By: >>2535055

>>2528618
Yeah, I’ve seen a few of these. There was one that was a minimalist challenge from like the 1920’s. I think the giant, overburdened pack meme is from a time when recreational backpacking really started becoming popular and people just didn’t know what they were doing. Even before Ray Jardine wrote his PCT book in the early 90’s they had people carrying lighter loads because they had figured it out in their own.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:33:04 No.2535055 Report

Quoted By: >>2535063

>>2535041
There’s an 11 page pamphlet floating around from 1924 called “Going Light” which was a companion to a presentation given by one of the Appalachian Trail clubs. Pic rel, the shelter weight is probably lighter than what most people are using 100 years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 22:57:30 No.2535063 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535055
Pyroxylin is also known as nitrocellulose, flashpaper, or guncotton. These guys were using tents made of explosives

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2023 23:14:33 No.2535070 Report

Quoted By:

>>2531802
>american units
You mean the system based on britbong units that uses metric to define it's standarts
Your system sucks, just admit it
Most laboratories in the US don't even bother to use it anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2023 02:52:06 No.2535171 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535018
>nigger
>No parents
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2023 02:58:40 No.2535173 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535026
I'm a long distance runner and avid /out/-er. If you really think it's more difficult moving a significant distance over asphalt than rough terrain, you're a fucking retard an probably have no experience with either.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2023 03:59:57 No.2535198 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535035
Most or my body hair is blonde

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2023 05:54:47 No.2535235 Report

Quoted By: >>2537790

>>2535018
>canada
>cuntmad about no dad
>white boy
Ahh yes the ethnic trilogy. But you're right.

>>2527077
Based creature

>>2535031
Both are good.

>>2531802
You're over thinking what basic fitness overcomes. I'll occasionally hike with 6litres water via two bladders on each side of my larger bag. Normally it's 4 though. I drink as I go so it's always shrinking down. Nature of arid living.
Thing is a lot of scandis save fuel for long hauls by carrying water as do people who are used to adverse water carrying IE Military. It can be important for stealth camping so you can not need to tresspass in places that have hyper zealous dogs and thermal owning landed people.Also heavy winter bags for heavy loads is common to a lot of the nordic creatures too. They like to kitchen sink it a lot of the time. Bivy, liner, bag, inner bag I've seen a lot. It's not something you really need on trails so the ultralight thing kind of robs you of having an opinion about off track stuff. You should try going where ressuply and trail angels aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2023 05:56:06 No.2535236 Report

Quoted By: >>2535410

>>2533486
Nta but not all bushes are the same, and theres plenty of places with fairly open forests that aren't Appalachia tier fuckthickets from hell.
It also depends on pack size. An 80l pack will catch on everything, a 50l will be tighter to the body and catch less.
>>2535031
You twat, possums are one of the few species to eat ticks. You deserve Lyme for that. Kill a feral cat next time instead if you must.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2023 06:24:06 No.2535247 Report

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>>2525574
And meanwhile we have (you) a fucking faggot who sits inside on the sidelines criticizing what other people do and not going out side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2023 17:37:16 No.2535410 Report

Quoted By: >>2535663

>>2535236
No shit Sherlock, but modern packs are designed for weekenders who want something light and rips like tissue

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 02:06:51 No.2535663 Report

Quoted By: >>2535837

>>2535410
>designed for weekenders
>also designed for thruhikers that will spend several months straight with them
Bravo, Mrs Lansbury.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 14:59:37 No.2535837 Report

Quoted By: >>2535847

>>2535663
Thruhiking is the ez of out.
Boo hoo suppourt me oh trail angel please Darwin oh youtuber tell me what cuban fibre to replace my recent barely used shit with!

It's basically a retard containment version of out at this point. Walking a glorified path and acting like that's some expedition is one of the great redditoid lies. I'm glad they do it so they don't fuck over the good places though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 15:16:30 No.2535847 Report

Quoted By: >>2535911

>>2535837
You are the only one that cares.
Imagine having this much of a chip on your shoulder about how people enjoy nature kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 15:24:53 No.2535850 Report

Quoted By: >>2535911 >>2535988

So what's the minimum gear to take?
I'm curious what you innawoods people find appropriate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 15:27:55 No.2535853 Report

Quoted By: >>2535911

>>2525574
That's easy.
>larpers: this board
>ultralighters: goofy but they actually go outside

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:52:45 No.2535910 Report

Quoted By: >>2535923

>>2532321
You must be Norwegian. I can tell from the gear you're using.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:53:01 No.2535911 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535847
Fuck em all. I dig holes on them and steal supplies any change I get. They leave out free stuff, I keep getting it. I profit from retards. Back to r/MAPpride with you.

>>2535850
As little as possible without going into meme craft or ultra light mile maker habits. For example I keep a heavy bag but minimal tarp. Closed foam short mat, but in a hammock most of the time. It depends on the season. It's worth spending on the best sleeping bag you can get just to get the size down no matter who you are or what side of the fence you are on. What's important is that you get to stay fed, sleep well and that your gear keeps you going. At least so you can enjoy whatever you want to actually do. In my case that's a lot of uphill and foraging. So not much.

>>2535853
Then why are there here shitting up /out/? Because most of the doers are busy being out and all the indoor creatures who wage for the week off once a year have nothing to do but trails via the isntagram plague. Don't get me wrong the bushlarpers are faggots too, but they are a minority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:23:01 No.2535923 Report

Quoted By: >>2535928 >>2535943

>>2535910
yeah, not the biggest kept secret I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:32:17 No.2535928 Report

Quoted By: >>2535990

>>2535923
I have much of the same gear. Never served, but hike a lot with people who did, which is where I get most of the gear recommendations from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 20:00:21 No.2535943 Report

Quoted By: >>2535990

>>2535923
Based. I like Norways sled dog culture. Some of the best winter military advice I ever got too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 20:13:29 No.2535948 Report

Quoted By: >>2535990

>>2532321
>Norrøna
I have a 45 liter pack of theirs and its pretty nice but i hate that they dont have the side net things for waterbottles and you're forced to use a bladder.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 20:30:59 No.2535955 Report

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>>2529535
>that fucking Klan man

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 21:16:30 No.2535972 Report

Quoted By:

I liked the big backpacks I saw people wearing in movies, i bought a 65ls one and i went on a chill trail on top of a mountain nearby, at times it was kinda hard because im not used to it but in the end all went fine and i had fun larping with my big bag

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:09:25 No.2535988 Report

Quoted By: >>2536166 >>2537379

>>2535850
This is minimum. You only really need tarp, bag, pad, water bottle, food, headlamp

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:13:05 No.2535990 Report

Quoted By: >>2536001

>>2535948
That sucks. There is one major issue with the recon pack, which is the plastic plate holding the shoulder strap in place(and is used for height adjustment). It broke on me, and looking at reviews seem to be a issue others have had. The outer part of the plate is really thin, so its prone to snapping if youre unkucky. I got a new plate for free from Norrøna, but switching it out was a pain. Still an amazing pack tho, and I havet had any issues with the new plate. It's not too much of a concern tho, when it broke I just tied the straps together, which worked amazingly.
>>2535928
Then youre definitely covered. Should of course be noted that you can always optimize from what the army issues. But in terms of familiarity and just knowing that stuff will endure is always a safety I'm happy to carry.
>>2535943
Good to hear. There's a lot of work put into safe and competent arctic operations. The cold really is a killer, one way or another. That being said I feel a lot more confident in winter enviroment than in cold rainy enviroment. Cold and snow can be countered by either dynamic movement, or adding layers when static. But rain and wind just seeps in and drains you of any warmth. We had a bigger percentage of potential moderate hypthermia cases during a summer exercise with rain, wind and 0C, than we did during a -40C winter exercise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:45:12 No.2536000 Report

Quoted By:

holy shit the seethe in this thread. you "guys" know more about being a pussy than a damn gynecologist convention.

>be me
>to busy being awesome to give a shit what the /autists/ think

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:48:48 No.2536001 Report

Quoted By: >>2536191

>>2535990
Drammen her.
Ser nesten likt ut på ryggen, bortsett fra at jeg har Forsvarets kjipe truger med M/77-bindinger :D

Translated for our English friends:
I'm from Drammen (city).
It looks almost the same on my back, except that I have the Armed Forces' awful snow shoes with M/77-bindings :D

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 23:39:27 No.2536018 Report

Quoted By: >>2536120

>>2530839
Not bad for the weekend warrior, but definitely could have spent less and gotten much more for 200 bucks. Getting a decent flashlight from home depot (30$>) and a proper first aid kit (self made or bought, just do your research). Other that pretty solid despite what most would say on here.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 02:05:34 No.2536081 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535038

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 04:59:10 No.2536120 Report

Quoted By:

>>2536018
>FAK
Unnecessary beyond 1 gauze roll, some Band-Aids and sanitary wipes, tick puller if relevant, you can add a couple hemostatic bandages if you're worried about I dunno getting shredded by a griz. Tq is probably only useful if there's guns or you're going out during hunting season.
I can't recall what I tossed in mine, but it weighs 8oz or so, which is already overkill.

I just think people go way too hard on first aid. Really you should have a PLB for anything worse than a twisted ankle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 09:42:55 No.2536166 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535988
Could I shove an IFAK in there without being too overweight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 12:39:55 No.2536191 Report

Quoted By: >>2537003

>>2536001
Oof, er det dei brede trugene? Har løpt mykje med deim, saknar det ikkje.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Feb 2023 14:02:19 No.2536629 Report

Quoted By: >>2537179

Is the Tasmanian Tiger TT Raid Pack MKIII worth the 300€? Any similar bag for less?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Feb 2023 03:48:15 No.2537003 Report

Quoted By:

>>2536191
Ja, de er brede som satan. Får skaffe de nye så fort de er på markedet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Feb 2023 17:17:27 No.2537179 Report

Quoted By:

>>2536629
I've got one, works great. Would recommend getting a bigger one for winter if you live anywhere where its cold, but I use it all year around in Britian.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2023 00:54:52 No.2537379 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535988
what's that pad? a folding one seems much better than a roll-up desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2023 19:02:29 No.2537638 Report

Quoted By:

>>2526326
Cool water bottle

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2023 19:03:45 No.2537639 Report

Quoted By:

>>2526684
Even shot a man's dick off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2023 19:05:43 No.2537641 Report

Quoted By:

>>2527065
How are your joints these days? Genuinely curious, not trying to take the piss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Feb 2023 03:44:10 No.2537790 Report

Quoted By:

>>2535235
>You're over thinking what basic fitness overcomes. I'll occasionally hike with 6litres water via two bladders on each side of my larger bag. Normally it's 4 though. I drink as I go so it's always shrinking down. Nature of arid living.
>Thing is a lot of scandis save fuel for long hauls by carrying water as do people who are used to adverse water carrying IE Military. It can be important for stealth camping so you can not need to tresspass in places that have hyper zealous dogs and thermal owning landed people.Also heavy winter bags for heavy loads is common to a lot of the nordic creatures too. They like to kitchen sink it a lot of the time. Bivy, liner, bag, inner bag I've seen a lot. It's not something you really need on trails so the ultralight thing kind of robs you of having an opinion about off track stuff. You should try going where ressuply and trail angels aren't.
you carry as much water as i do crossing large deserts... i haven't /out/ed there but i grew up there so i sorta know what its like. aren't there a lot of water sources? i can't imagine needing more than a liter out there, does it vary more than i think regionally? i remember it not being that far off from the pnw and western canada.
dunno maybe i really have the wrong idea what its like out there but i kind of doubt it. every time i look up a hike in norway online it mentions frequent water sources.

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I just don't get the lack of balance in life. I hike thru with a Chrome bravo, its heavier, but irl im a bike messenger and the bags are waterproof, that and a pad are more than enough. I Just finished an autumn hiking around the entirety of iceland with it. The UL community has forgotten that its a mindset not a shopping list; we're here to interact with nature

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