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Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2023 23:15:11 No.2543379 View View Reply Original Report

Homestead General
Red Barn Edition
>Thread 02

This thread is for people who would like to live, or are already living, completely or partially off their land in a self sufficient way.

Old Thread: >>2500534

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Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2023 23:17:23 No.2543381 Report

Quoted By: >>2552368 >>2569259

>>2543379
getting this chart out of the way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2023 19:57:25 No.2543794 Report

Quoted By: >>2544599 >>2546656 >>2547348 >>2556423 >>2558523

I've been dreaming about homesteading for years and it seems like something you have to jump into and figure it out.
I want a big off grid 800sqft insulated concrete form house with a cellar. On a budget of $60k and ICF not really being something easily modified it seems unrealistic to have everything up and running from the start. I'm thinking about getting a camper, small solar bank, and roughing it for a couple years so I know what is actually needed. Starting small and eventually growing into it. The well will probably cost $4k based on what others have told me. Swap out small propane tanks for cooking and heat. As the 'I wish...' thoughts pop up hopefully a natural flow will develop and things gradually become more self sufficient and leads to a permanent and more comfortable living arrangement. My family has rural land in the Midwest I can larp on so the $60k should be enough to get something started, even if it's not the full orchard, garden supplying 100% of fruits and vegetables, pigs, ducks, rabbits, foundry, machine shop, vaulted underground chamber with pool, sauna, and orangery 100% turnkey from day one operation.
I'm told the county is lenient so you can build pretty much whatever. Don't even have to do a septic tank since lagoons are legal here.
No clue what I'm doing but I'm tired of everything. After the well and camper I'm selling my house and hoping for the best. Just want to play little neet on the prairie.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2023 20:20:44 No.2543807 Report

Quoted By: >>2543884 >>2544856 >>2546884 >>2555419 >>2559046 >>2567095 >>2572388 >>2572920 >>2575523

Really wish I knew the answer to the goat vs sheep debate. Should I just flip a coin at this point?

I'd love to have wool for making clothes and stuff (pic related) but I also want milk and dairy sheep are impossible to find around here. Also goats are more profitable. And I have about 10 acres overgrown with multiflora rose which would suit goats far better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2023 23:11:25 No.2543884 Report

Quoted By: >>2572388

>>2543807
Sounds to me like goats are the way to go.

Why not get angora goats and use for them to produce mohair wool?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2023 03:36:34 No.2544599 Report

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>>2543794
Nice story anon. You are blessed. Good luck with your adventure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2023 08:02:00 No.2544684 Report

Quoted By: >>2545804 >>2546723

is this the larp general.
we already have /hgm/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2023 17:02:33 No.2544856 Report

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>>2543807
get a dairy cow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2023 04:32:32 No.2545726 Report

Quoted By: >>2546272 >>2561789 >>2572922

we went with dairy sheep. awassi/lacon/east fresion cross.

we raise guinea hogs now. did berkshire last year.

we have red bourbon turkeys, cortunix quail, Americana, Rhode island and rock chickens (not cross bred) and we buy Cornish x rock meat birds each year. we also raise welsh harlequin and silver Appleyard ducks.

we raise Tamuk meat rabbits.

we are moving from the outskirts of our city to a 10 acre homestead in the country in about 3 months... as soon as the house construction is complete.

3 bedroom, 2 bath, 400 sqft basement.

house is triple redundant for off grid and disaster living.

it has complete solar and battery storage, mini-split HVAC, Propane option, wood stove heat, wood cook oven in kitchen, Propane oven in kitchen.

water well and septic.

year one at the new homestead, so it will grow from here.

we are trying to get our gardens set up. we already have 2 cubic yards of compost to start with, from our current home. 1st year gardens will be hit and miss.

we began planting our orchard last fall and are continuing now. apricots arriving next week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2023 07:07:14 No.2545804 Report

Quoted By: >>2546699

>>2544684
Hgm is for gardening? This is for everything /homestead/ minus gardening. Beekeeping, barn-raising, animal husbandry, land-clearing, aquaculture, well-digging, remote work setups, range waifu finding, etc. All /homstread/ related topics welcome.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2023 19:12:06 No.2546057 Report

Quoted By: >>2564755 >>2569614 >>2570199

Any good /horse/ youtube channels? I really enjoy Greg Judy's ranching videos but he doesn't focus on horses much, I tried lurking /an/ but I think they want to fuck horses not raise them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2023 19:58:27 No.2546083 Report

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>>2543379
How do I get my driver's license bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Feb 2023 04:32:17 No.2546272 Report

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>>2545726
Love to hear this anon. What part of the country?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Feb 2023 22:35:57 No.2546656 Report

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>>2543794
when my uncle built his cabin he piped in a dugout for water and put in a sewage lagoon
he rented a backhoe and did it all himself for cheap
theres a holding tank in the basement, he just adds a small amount of household bleach to the water
its not potable, but its fine for showers, dishes and flushing the toilet
he just refills those water cooler jugs at his friends for potable water
it costs him about $20 a month if he buys it at a refill station

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 00:06:18 No.2546699 Report

Quoted By: >>2546704 >>2546706 >>2546723 >>2559412 >>2572388

>>2545804
HGM is for all those things in addition to gardening. This thread is for larping. Notice there is only one post so far from someone who raises livestock of any kind.
The term "homestead" is a magnet for LARPers and maladaptive daydreamers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 00:23:51 No.2546704 Report

Quoted By: >>2546707 >>2546714 >>2562044

>>2546699
why does every thread have to be ruined by some poster that has to make it personal?
every single fucking thread, its the same MO
name calling, personal attacks, speculation about any dectractors emotional state or ethnicity
claims that youre triggered, even if you are just politely disagreeing, total projection
bunch of 'good cop, bad cop' samefag posting
its the same thing every time
im convinced its one guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 00:34:06 No.2546706 Report

Quoted By: >>2562019

>>2546699
this you?
>"Maladaptive daydreaming (MD) defines excessive use of fantasy which replaces human interaction and/or interferes with academic, interpersonal, or vocational functioning. This study tests psychometric properties of the Polish version of the Maladaptive Daydreaming "
so if it's interpersonal, and productive toward the self, as such is my relationship with God and my dreams respectively, it isn't maladaptive, but, I think you're just sort of a nihilist about starting over cause you know the owner of the world is satan, BUT, remember the Love between you and God, and then the love between others, that is why you are in this world. That's it. The rest is satan, and iniquity. (not saying I'm good at practicing this either). Plus, it does say, take care of the land, so, whatever land or community you're in, take care of it.
youre a loser

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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 00:38:31 No.2546707 Report

Quoted By: >>2546723 >>2546725 >>2546732 >>2565403 >>2569971

>>2546704
Post a chicken or rabbit or even a bee. PLEASE prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 00:52:21 No.2546714 Report

Quoted By: >>2546716

>>2546704
Maybe two or three, but definitely assholes who think they can gatekeep something like going outside

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 00:57:19 No.2546716 Report

Quoted By: >>2546723 >>2546727

>>2546714
>gatekeep something like going outside
Yeah it's really shitty that someone would gatekeep going outside, it's really simple and fun to go outside and there's no way to do it wrong. All that matters is that people get out there.
So, since you go outside would you mind sharing some of your experiences from going outside? Since this is a homesteading thread I'd love to hear about your homesteading experience or see pictures of your homestead.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 01:09:06 No.2546723 Report

Quoted By: >>2546736 >>2564756

>>2544684
>>2546699
>>2546707
>>2546716
now that they evidence has been provided, the goalposts will be moved
the evidece will be rejected for something arbitrary
followed by ad hominems, deflection, cherry picking, even outright lying
every dishonest tactic he can muster
when that doesnt work hell start same fagging with a slightly more reasonable perspective to create the illsuion of consensus
its the same shit every time, its the same guy
its probably a schizo from pol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 01:10:48 No.2546725 Report

Quoted By: >>2546736

>>2546707
How can i start with chicken? Do you have pdf, books and how can i build a chicken coop? Also do you have some blueprint for a good chicken coop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 01:11:27 No.2546727 Report

Quoted By: >>2546736

>>2546716
Started off subtle, but it's still obvious you're salty. 4/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 01:16:52 No.2546732 Report

Quoted By: >>2546736

>>2546707
and by the way, what kind of retard feeds his chicken whole corn
get a mill dumb shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 01:23:34 No.2546736 Report

Quoted By: >>2546738

>>2546723
Awesome sheep man, I wish there were more people in this thread like you
>>2546725
Unfortunately I can't really help you because I was in a unique situation where I was able to barter for a chicken coop that was way nicer than anything I could make myself so I don't have any blueprints for you. If I were you I would find a YouTube video on how to build one and follow it along, making minor modifications if necessary for your situation. There is a ton of information on YouTube and online in general about chickens. I would personally not waste any money on books.
>>2546727
>>2546732
Still waiting for pics, "homesteader"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 01:25:55 No.2546738 Report

Quoted By: >>2546742 >>2546744

>>2546736
>Awesome sheep man, I wish there were more people in this thread like you
>Still waiting for pics, "homesteader"
now hes pretending to not know that im the same guy
i told you, i fucking told you he would reject the evidence
how can a supposedly religious person be so dishonest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 01:30:00 No.2546742 Report

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>>2546738
Well, in his defense, there are no default poster IDs on this board that I can see. Other than that he's a useless cunt who didn't read the OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 01:35:46 No.2546744 Report

Quoted By: >>2546764

>>2546738
If (you) are the guy complaining about gatekeeping than I am not really sure what your problem is because as someone who raises livestock (you) are not the problem. The problem is the people who do not and will not ever garden/homestead/farm/whatever outnumbering people like you and me 10 to 1. At best they add nothing to the conversation and at worst they regurgitate false information and become belligerent when called out. Keeping them out of the conversation is not gatekeeping anymore than ignoring sex advice from a virgin is gatekeeping. Even such I am happy to answer legitimate and thoughtful questions they may have, but I won't be entertaining questions like "how much land to I need to be 100% self sufficient" or "how much money do I need to run away from my parents and build an off grid cabin" etc
If you are the person talking about milling corn I don't do it because the chickens eat it as is so milling would be a waste of time. I buy "deer corn" on sale after hunting season as a cheap feed supplement for the winter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 02:15:57 No.2546764 Report

Quoted By: >>2546780

>>2546744
to actual farmers were all larpers
we dont know shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 02:34:48 No.2546778 Report

Quoted By: >>2546868 >>2547239 >>2550915 >>2559603 >>2559745 >>2560021

hey /homesteaders/ I bought 1 acre of land on a Greek island that gets tons of visitors a year. It is located a big off the beaten path though which is good, I get my space.

I want to make it into a permaculture/homestead type place and sell high-value yippie shit to the tourists and potentially all the restaurants that serve them.

Some thoughts:
>microgreens for restaurants
>selling "native plants seed balls" for like 1$ for 3, literally just mud and seeds in a small burlap baggy
>get some weird bird like emu and charge money to take a pic
>sell special salt from sea water that I dehydrate

anyone have other ideas? Im thinking of buying more land to be self reliant, but for now this will do

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 02:35:57 No.2546780 Report

Quoted By: >>2547346

>>2546764
kek, some leathery old codger is standing in a field right now with his pitchfork saying "fucking larpers, they should lurk moar"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 08:25:12 No.2546868 Report

Quoted By: >>2546967 >>2549911

>>2546778
Beekeeping is very rewarding and easy to sell. Difficult to turn a profit depending on your market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 11:59:26 No.2546884 Report

Quoted By: >>2555419

>>2543807
You could raise both. Goats browse while sheep graze, so as long as you have both brush AND grass they can both feed. Only issue is some differing mineral needs like copper. Sheep need less of it and can OD on goat copper supplements. I once heard someone recommend putting the mineral lick somewhere high that the goats can climb to but the sheep can't.

Goats are definitely easier than sheep and tend to have better milk production, so bear that in mind if you can only have one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 17:10:38 No.2546967 Report

Quoted By: >>2547949

>>2546868
Yea i will do beekeeping but just for me and friends and family

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 22:24:45 No.2547163 Report

Quoted By: >>2547168 >>2547243 >>2548234 >>2548453

>>2543379
I'd like to give homesteading a shot. While I'd like to start small, land around me is expensive as fuck (like $100k+ for 1 acre) and still located in/close to neighborhoods. There is a forested 5-acre plot that's actually fairly cheap (comparatively), but I worry that might be too much land for starting out.

I'm also hesitant about moving more than a couple hour drive away from family and friends, as I feel like they're the only thing keeping me from going full social recluse and I would miss our biweekly gatherings. If I wasn't single moving away wouldn't be so intimidating, but tfw forever alone.

Do I just bite the bullet and buy expensive land, figure out a plan for the 5 acres, or admit I'm a cuck who thinks too much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2023 22:30:11 No.2547168 Report

Quoted By: >>2547243 >>2548453

>>2547163
For more info, I'd plan to build my own home on the land, raise a few chickens (maybe someday goats), grow some food, and use solar to try and reduce grid dependence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 00:57:37 No.2547239 Report

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>>2546778
that's actually super cool. Pick-your-own and charging for it might be a good business. Those operations tend to have great margins, with the trade-off being that they cannot scale easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 01:01:00 No.2547243 Report

Quoted By: >>2547253

>>2547163
>>2547168
first you have to get a job

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 01:26:00 No.2547253 Report

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>>2547243
I do have a job...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:27:24 No.2547346 Report

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>>2546780
yes I am

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:32:21 No.2547348 Report

Quoted By: >>2548522 >>2557669

>>2543794
>Swap out small propane tanks for cooking and heat.
You're not off grid or homesteading if you're dependent on the grid for fuel. Even if you're not aiming for off grid try to minimize your dependency on the grid as much as possible to prepare for bad times. Aim for a place that has enough trees for your heating and cooking needs. Calculate the BTUs you'll need in a year, convert that to trees you'd need per year, and then buy a lot with 15-20x those trees and replant 1-2x what you chopped down the year before. I consult with energy use and this is how I help rural/off gridders heat themselves.

Hell, I just get a salvage permit for my cabin/camping, way cheaper than a felling permit. All in all good dream anon I wish you luck. Try and do as much work yourself if you can, cost of labour is a real bitch now.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 08:04:34 No.2547390 Report

Quoted By: >>2547405 >>2549232 >>2552183

what i bought

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 08:30:14 No.2547405 Report

Quoted By: >>2547413

>>2547390
>$79
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 08:46:27 No.2547413 Report

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>>2547405
!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 22:22:47 No.2547645 Report

Quoted By: >>2547648

>>2543379
How bad would it be if I set up in the general area near a wastewater treatment plant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 22:27:26 No.2547648 Report

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>>2547645
You might get some shitty results.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 15:00:04 No.2547949 Report

Quoted By:

>>2546967
And for me, great thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 03:14:59 No.2548234 Report

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>>2547163
good luck anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 16:26:13 No.2548453 Report

Quoted By: >>2548457 >>2548668

>>2547163
>>2547168
I'm in the same position, been researching this for a long time. Last year finally bought a small plot of land. I'd recommend that you don't go balls deep yet. You should buy a plot of under an acre, whatever you can afford, and try small scale projects. Yes wooded land tends to be cheaper but clearing it can be a lot of labor and/or expense. Plus installing utilities, which you will need if you want to build a home or sell it at some point. This is why I recommend you just buy a regular vacant lot, they will be already cleared and typically have utilities so you have a clean slate and it's feasible to sell it at a later point. The ones in core urban areas tend to be expensive, but if you go a bit further out you should eventually be able to find one for around $30k/acre, unless you live in some yuppie-infested shithole.

A typical suburban plot of 1/4-1/2 an acre is plenty to grow most if not all of your diet plus keep some chickens for eggs. You could also get some goats and import feed but IMO that defeats the purpose since ideally you should be grazing them. With larger livestock in general I think it's much better to lease grazing land by probing the area and asking people if you can lease. I don't have any animals yet but I started doing this just to see. Before buying my plot I also asked dozens of people to lease their land for growing crops, and it seems people are way more receptive to grazing than growing crops. Probably because you're just letting animals roam for a while rather than tearing up their ground to create a jungle. For more on this I highly recommend Greg Judy on jewtube.

Also mowing lawns is a good idea. On top of making some cash, if you get a lawn tractor with a bagging attachment you can save the grass to use either for green manure or feeding livestock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 16:35:25 No.2548457 Report

Quoted By: >>2548668

>>2548453
Also building a house is a ton of work without lots of help. If you really want to do it you should try building a tiny home. And getting it up to code can be a bitch, there are guides for it. If you just want a place to live then buying a prefabbed one is better.

Really if you're on your own the point should be more about developing skills. There's a reason why the few people who succeed in homesteading tend to have a big family and network of people to rely on. To do really serious shit you need to work with others, no matter what the antisocial spergs on here say.

I'd even say that homesteading, or at least an over emphasis on it, is unnatural. It's a relic of the colonial era when people needed to settle vast expanses of untamed land, so families had to split up and work on their own. Even then there was still a good deal of cooperation between families. The ideal is a village-like community full of resourceful people. However those are non-existent if you live in an *nglo country, so here we are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 18:45:19 No.2548522 Report

Quoted By: >>2549974 >>2552524

>>2547348
I've been reading a bit more about using wood. I was under the impression you needed a lot of land for it but people are getting 0.5 cords wood/acre/yr just growing for timber by grabbing dead or misshapen trees. Switching to all electric or possibly biogas at some point if I ever get animals is doable, but that is probably a harder than using either wood or electric.
Wood is attractive in the sense that there is less than that can go wrong. More romantic than electric for sure. Are there any books on the subject you liked? I guess it can't be terribly hard to figure out but I'm not at the place right now so I have a lot of downtime. Osage seems like a good one to plant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Mar 2023 03:04:13 No.2548663 Report

Quoted By:

>>2543379
bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Mar 2023 03:06:37 No.2548668 Report

Quoted By:

>>2548457
>>2548453

Best of luck to you, anon. Hope it works out nicely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Mar 2023 10:06:52 No.2548749 Report

Quoted By: >>2548773 >>2549069 >>2549083 >>2556819

I'm having trouble starting out tomato seeds. They've been in the starting mix for one week and still no signs of life.
What am I doing wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Mar 2023 12:12:55 No.2548773 Report

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>>2548749
Make sure they're staying warm and wet enough?

Try wrapping some in a wet paper towel in a ziploc baggie and leaving them somewhere warm for about a week

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2023 01:04:03 No.2549069 Report

Quoted By:

>>2548749
temp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2023 01:49:40 No.2549083 Report

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>>2548749
Tomatoes are always hit or miss with me. I’ve had 100% non starters and I’ve had plants which produced in year two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2023 16:48:30 No.2549232 Report

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>>2547390
Use case

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Mar 2023 22:58:07 No.2549911 Report

Quoted By: >>2549975

>>2546868
Bees are great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 02:16:36 No.2549974 Report

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>>2548522
Look up the best species which grow in your area for pollarding and coppicing. I’ve been doing it the last few years with some invasive species growing on state land behind my house. I’m far from knowing anything about it except that it works. I get enough wood for a season of campfire cooking, but so far that’s all I’ve really been after.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 02:17:43 No.2549975 Report

Quoted By: >>2550270 >>2565368

>>2549911
>Bees are great

Just split my hive. Hoping it sticks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 18:11:59 No.2550270 Report

Quoted By: >>2552800

>>2549975
Very nice. 2 queens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2023 23:31:56 No.2550915 Report

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>>2546778
godspeed anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 16:56:16 No.2551232 Report

Quoted By: >>2551321 >>2556820 >>2557559

Planning on taking down three mature pecan trees this summer. We have more than we can harvest and need the space to put up a barn. Any creative ideas for what to do with the wood? I don't use wood heating much. My short list so far is hugelculture or start producing a mass amount of biochar

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:38:26 No.2551321 Report

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>>2551232
Dry it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 07:26:33 No.2551666 Report

Quoted By: >>2552148 >>2552212

>>2543379
What is the purpose of the small towers on top? Lighting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 10:30:59 No.2552148 Report

Quoted By:

>>2551666
Good question

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 14:02:20 No.2552183 Report

Quoted By:

>>2547390
How much did it actually cost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 16:15:06 No.2552212 Report

Quoted By:

>>2551666
Improves ventilation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 23:53:07 No.2552368 Report

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>>2543381
What chart is this?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 03:00:51 No.2552438 Report

Quoted By: >>2552546 >>2552735 >>2557567 >>2559540

Sometimes I wonder if producing a good part of what I eat is actually possible.
My dozen chickens are pretty reliable for covering egg-needs, I heard that Dwarf goats are pretty good for cream/milk.

It's the carbs that completely stump me. Potatoes don't grow well here, corn has been really unreliable the times I tried it.
Got a good harvest from beans, though my family didn't like eating them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 08:54:39 No.2552520 Report

Quoted By: >>2562071

>>2543379
How can I, a poorfag tech-wagie late-millennial saving up for land and living with family, get started with homesteading projects to make things less "zero to one hundred". Have yard, but I don't want to dominate the space. Ideas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 09:11:11 No.2552524 Report

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>>2548522
How much is "a lot of land" to you? 3 acres of moderate to heavily forested, well managed by you, is plenty to support a single homes needs in a northern cooler climate forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:41:38 No.2552546 Report

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>>2552438
Keep trying more staple crops until you hit mix and amount that works. Overcoming the eating habits of family is the hardest challenge of you have the average to pull of the carbs part

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 22:21:21 No.2552735 Report

Quoted By: >>2552754

>>2552438
I realize this may be more of an ideological desire on your part than a practical one, but a good middle ground may be developing a personal comfort with trade and then switching over to rice. A diet of rice means that you can avoid processed carbs and all the baggage/obesity/diabetes that impacts normal westerners. Rice is dirt, cheap, easy to cook, and allows you to focus your farming on everything else.

A good healthy diet like what is found in East Asia has a mass of more than 60% fruits and vegetables, then much smaller amounts of rice and animal protein.

Your children, growing up with a daily intake of eggs, milk, poultry, and a small bowl of rice will keep them strong, lean, and healthy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 22:31:22 No.2552740 Report

Quoted By: >>2552796 >>2555518 >>2562070 >>2562320 >>2575871 >>2575901 >>2576501

How do I cope with the fact I'll eventually need to cull my animals, for food or otherwise? I want to have some chickens and something bigger like goats or sheep, but I'm worried about being devastated emotionally when their time comes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 23:13:31 No.2552754 Report

Quoted By: >>2555720

>>2552735
Look up diabetes rates in rice cultures. You'll be disappointed with severity

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2023 00:44:03 No.2552796 Report

Quoted By: >>2552803

>>2552740
Offer thanks to their spirit for the sustenance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2023 00:50:59 No.2552800 Report

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>>2550270
>two queens
I’ll check in a couple weeks. I took five frames full of brood, honey, and capped queen cups to put in the new hive and checkerboarded the old one. Hopefully both hives are queen right when I check in two weeks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2023 00:56:05 No.2552803 Report

Quoted By: >>2552804 >>2553399

>>2552796
Does this actually make any guilt go away?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2023 01:00:29 No.2552804 Report

Quoted By: >>2552807

>>2552803
I don’t know. It’s the native way. I grew up hunting - and killing animals I raised. Not always for food. Taking care of an old dog you’ve had since a pup is probably the hardest thing anyone can do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2023 01:08:50 No.2552807 Report

Quoted By: >>2552810

>>2552804
>Taking care of an old dog you’ve had since a pup is probably the hardest thing anyone can do
My family didn't hunt or anything like that, but I can relate to this. Granted we took our dogs to the vet when their time came, but it was still absolutely soul crushing. I suppose I would just need to live with knowing I gave my animals the best life I could while I had them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2023 01:17:11 No.2552810 Report

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>>2552807
One of the things they did in the past was keep a productive animal as long as possible. Is the hen still laying? The cow still producing milk? Pigs are whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 00:21:04 No.2553191 Report

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>>2543379
good thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 01:56:10 No.2553227 Report

Quoted By: >>2553697 >>2554922

>>2543379

Any fish farmers here?

The most peaceful way to kill a fish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazDzYdXmDc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 02:34:45 No.2553254 Report

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>>2543379
Question for people who have made it: How much free time do you usually have after daily shores?

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 13:11:25 No.2553399 Report

Quoted By: >>2553430 >>2553531

>>2552803
I had to turn most of my animals into soup for awhile till I got used to the guilt. I didn't grow up hunting or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 15:45:15 No.2553430 Report

Quoted By: >>2553441

>>2553399
Stop being a pussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 16:37:25 No.2553441 Report

Quoted By:

>>2553430
I'm killing and eating critters. What else do you want in this pissing contest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 22:20:37 No.2553531 Report

Quoted By:

>>2553399
good luck anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 22:35:41 No.2553537 Report

Quoted By: >>2553541 >>2554340 >>2554655 >>2554661 >>2554926

>>2543379
How do I meet homestead quality wife-able QTs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 22:55:57 No.2553541 Report

Quoted By: >>2553567

>>2553537
much like a prize-winning hog, you have to nurture them yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2023 00:21:43 No.2553567 Report

Quoted By: >>2561791

>>2553541
So what, trick some lady into my basement and nurture her into the ideal stockholme syndrome homestead wife?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2023 08:44:22 No.2553697 Report

Quoted By: >>2554340

>>2553227
Thats just a lobotomy for fish...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 16:09:54 No.2554340 Report

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>>2553537
According to the prior thread, this is the hardest problem when homesteading. Cities act as a vacuum and fill the impressionable with degenerate values. Lifestyle makes certain women unable to get married in the future.

>>2553697
Ikegaki and similar methods are not as widespread as you imagine. Essential for preserving, taste in fish and reducing animal cruelty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Mar 2023 07:53:40 No.2554655 Report

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>>2553537
Good luck anon

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Anonymous Sat 18 Mar 2023 08:23:50 No.2554661 Report

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>>2553537
ugly church* girl is probably the best you'll do for joining you in your faggot shack.
*the extra kooky kind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Mar 2023 01:42:41 No.2554922 Report

Quoted By:

>>2553227
nice fish

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Mar 2023 01:49:24 No.2554926 Report

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>>2553537
Smell nice. Be smart. Be kind. Be interesting.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Mar 2023 22:01:03 No.2555280 Report

Quoted By: >>2555353 >>2555443 >>2555474 >>2555722

>>2543379
Is it a bad idea to buy reclaimed strip mine land? The land I'm looking at was mined for coal more than 30 years ago and was reclaimed pretty good. It has several acres of pine that will return most of the cost of purchase in less than 5 years.

Is heavy metal contamination still an issue after 30 years? I want to turn most of the land into garden and pasture. I was going to make an offer on it tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 01:19:55 No.2555353 Report

Quoted By:

>>2555280
Heavy metal contaminated more or less doesn't go away

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 04:58:13 No.2555419 Report

Quoted By:

>>2543807
>>2546884
Trying both is a good idea... You will never truly know until you see them for yourself. I did both and just made sure to put out sheep mineral buckets and then gave each of the goats a copper bolus, which is a little pill with copper shards... It gets in their digestive tract and they absorb it over the course of a year, meaning they get copper without ricking the sheep ODing on it.

After my experience, I found that sheep are tamer and easier to keep in a fence. They tend to be more skittish though, so a good catch system and a lot of hands on time is important with them. Goats are BUTTS. Like if I had to give them all an analogy, it would be that sheep are dogs and goats are cats. Goats are bully's through and through, even when they are sweet. They won't fight you, but they will climb all over you to reach food and they break out of fences all the time, so a really good fence is a must. If there is a way out, they will find it and they will poop all over your porch.

Unfortunately, sheep aren't really good for milking... So I'm stuck with a bunch of bullies that keep pooping on my porch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 07:22:46 No.2555439 Report

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It's still another month until I can plant out and I keep ordering/buying plants and seeds. Send help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 08:06:30 No.2555443 Report

Quoted By:

>>2555280
maybe, maybe not
I'd pay a company to analyze a sample of soil and a sample of groundwater from the place
it's not that expensive in the grand scheme of things and will come in handy if/when you start growing crops

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 12:45:32 No.2555474 Report

Quoted By:

>>2555280
sunflowers will pull up heavy metals
just use any extra seed as birdseed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 14:52:51 No.2555518 Report

Quoted By: >>2573075

>>2552740
Not trying to be condescending, but....
Does it bother you to buy meat from the store? If anything, that should bother you more because most of those animals live off minimal pasture and they live very short lives. With your own animals, you call the shots. You decide how long they live, which means you could let them live longer. You manage the land they graze on, so you can make sure it isn't overpopulated. You take care of their medical needs and handling,so the handler-animal relationship will likely be a closer bond than they would have had elsewhere. You can give them an all around better life and be more self sufficient in the process.
What I found the hardest, is actually accidental deaths. You are going to have animals just up and die on you. Most of which is because herd animals are really good at hiding when they aren't well. You have to be very attentive to their normal behaviour to pick up on the early signs. Sometimes you won't know until it's too late, but you will never pick up this skill if you don't start somewhere.

My advice for this is to make friends with someone who already homesteads... You can find them on craigslist by the ads of new livestock for sale. Ask around and see if any of them will give you hands-on, in-person advice since you might be buying your starting animals from them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 21:54:58 No.2555720 Report

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>>2552754
This is primarily because EA/SEA cultures don't have as long a history of dairy and appropriate exercise.

Processed foods have also rekt them since the 20th century.

On average for a person who gets appropriate exercise, a diet that is heavy on home-prepared veggies and rice is superior to a diet that is heavy on factory-prepared processed carbs products.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 21:56:10 No.2555722 Report

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>>2555280
you could just farm trees

or not eat the food you grow

consider aquaculture as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 22:04:33 No.2555732 Report

Quoted By: >>2556302 >>2556572 >>2561792

i am planting pumpkins this year

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Mar 2023 22:35:45 No.2556302 Report

Quoted By: >>2556943

>>2555732
why pumpkins anon?

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:24:48 No.2556423 Report

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>>2543794
glhf

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 12:05:11 No.2556572 Report

Quoted By: >>2556815 >>2556943

>>2555732
Lost another one to the pumpkin cult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 22:23:15 No.2556815 Report

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>>2556572
what meme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 22:43:00 No.2556819 Report

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>>2548749
It takes about a week for tomatoes to germinate, they might just pop tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 22:45:32 No.2556820 Report

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>>2551232
Idk how it differs with pecan, but any hickory wood is too awesome to just throw back in the dirt. Great wood for smoking meat, great hard wood for specifically tool handles but also anything else. I'd use the lame trees for biochar or Hugel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 23:23:02 No.2556836 Report

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might have just inherited ~100 acres in the midwest
what do

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 03:20:31 No.2556943 Report

Quoted By:

>>2556302
i have seeds from last year
>>2556572
is it any better if i got introduced to it by my uncle and aunt from their patch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 07:06:26 No.2557559 Report

Quoted By:

>>2551232
Build a bee stand for bees

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 07:44:23 No.2557567 Report

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>>2552438
Have you looked into growing sweet potatoes, peanuts, wheat, barley, rice, oats, and rye ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 15:58:03 No.2557669 Report

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>>2547348
Wood is great but I would really recommend having propane or some other backup system with a thermostat, even if it's just a big Mr Heater. If you only have wood you can't just leave town for a week or your pipes and canned food and so on will all freeze and break. So if you're building one piece at a time it makes sense to start with propane and add the wood stove later when you can afford it and have the time to install it.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 20:50:12 No.2557817 Report

Quoted By: >>2557825 >>2558033 >>2558435 >>2558967 >>2560350

>>2543379
I am trying to fix this patch of soil that got completely disgusting because we had to keep a bunch of sheep and goats here.

It is basically just pure shit that has been rained on a lot and it never seems to dry out.

I tilled it some today in hopes of aerating it to encourage breakdown, but I think I may need to add something to it. Pure Carbon source to help fix the C/N balance, maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 20:57:15 No.2557825 Report

Quoted By: >>2557830

>>2557817
woof

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 21:07:36 No.2557830 Report

Quoted By: >>2558967

>>2557825
Yeah. It's truly wretched. Smells terribly disgusting. Rotting egg, manure, shit when I was tilling it.

3-4 inches of pure anaerobically fermented goat and sheep shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 04:12:57 No.2558033 Report

Quoted By: >>2558481

>>2557817
Been there. Add hay or wood chips. You can go to a local lumber mill and buy wood chips by the truckload for pretty cheap. Or you you get hay bales and use some for this and some for weed prevention in a garden since it's about time to start planting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 01:27:45 No.2558435 Report

Quoted By: >>2558481

>>2557817
gross

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 03:28:14 No.2558481 Report

Quoted By: >>2558524 >>2558717 >>2559015

>>2558033
Ty for the advice. I was considering hay so it would break down a bit faster. Thoughts on using sawdust? If my thinking is correct the sludge needs a lot of carbon to balance things out, and saw dust would break down fairly quickly.

I have 640sq.ft of raised beds and a greenhouse I mainly plant in. I'd like to try and fix this patch as a sort of learning thing, and to plant a huge patch of sunflowers.

If I do fix this ground it should be pretty fertile, right?

>>2558435
I'll post some more pictures of it tommorow. That isn't even the worst of it. Be thankful you can't smell it lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 05:47:45 No.2558523 Report

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>>2543794

anon just get a remote job and outsource your labor to an AI.

Running LLaMA locally:

https://medium.com/@martin-thissen/llama-alpaca-chatgpt-on-your-local-computer-tutorial-17adda704c23

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 05:54:56 No.2558524 Report

Quoted By: >>2558745 >>2558747

>>2558481
morbidly curious about the impending photos

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 09:28:55 No.2558563 Report

Quoted By: >>2558723

Second year, still so much struggle.
I've got five cubic meters of weeds piled up that won't compost or aren't suitable for composting.
The cost of arborists is greater than the net value of my fruit.
My lawns are thatched over and I don't have the machinery to aerate it, the $1500 mulcher is still waiting on parts, potatos didn't grow well because I planted them too close to tomatoes. Rookie error.
The berries didn't sell fresh at wholesale rates and the jam didn't sell either. A flood washed away all my raddish and cabbage.

I'm working seven hours a day for money and just come home exausted, I've been injured twice and am severely demoralized by the accumulation of things which I either can't afford to get done or don't know how to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 17:29:15 No.2558717 Report

Quoted By: >>2558747

>>2558481
Sawdust might work if that's what you have available, but I suspect chips would work better. Once it's not sludge anymore, it should be SUPER fertile ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 17:52:57 No.2558723 Report

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>>2558563
Look at carrots cash flow or farm small farm smart. You can glean a lot of market garden tips

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 18:29:28 No.2558745 Report

Quoted By: >>2558897 >>2560350

>>2558524
Here you go. Remember this ground has been wet like this for probably 4+ months.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 18:30:35 No.2558747 Report

Quoted By: >>2558897 >>2560350

>>2558524
Scrape away a little of the surface muck and you can see the true horrors.

>>2558717
Awesome to hear. Figured as much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 00:46:21 No.2558897 Report

Quoted By:

>>2558747
>>2558745
thanks for sharing. terrifying anon

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Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 02:38:13 No.2558967 Report

Quoted By:

>>2557817
>>2557830
If pic is all that is destroyed; plough in a 20/80 mix of diatomaceous earth and sand/fine gravel. That shit patch will then be some of your most productive dirt you've ever had.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 03:34:24 No.2558982 Report

Quoted By: >>2559214 >>2559460 >>2559897 >>2576725

Did I make a mistake getting chickens? I have a house and a couple acres the middle of nowhere and I already take care of a well trained dog and a few cats.
I was partway through building a coop and already had a lot of supplies for the chickens. I just had to keep telling myself that it would work out.
Now I finally have them after two years of thinking about it and lots of research, and I immediately think it was a mistake.
My concern is that I wont be able to take care of them properly and that I will somehow fail at it. I just doubt myself a lot.
I got barred rock chickens because i think that they would be a fairly easy breed to work with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 05:07:56 No.2559015 Report

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>>2558481
I always had good luck with Royal Hybrid and Super Snack sunflowers for eating seeds. They get around 6' tall and have a 8-10" head. I've alsogrown other sunflowers like russian mamoth, sky scraper, pikes peak, and american giant. Those are okay for seeds but since they get so tall they need a long season to form full seeds.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 07:59:13 No.2559046 Report

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>>2543807
sheep are based

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Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 16:06:01 No.2559214 Report

Quoted By: >>2559221

>>2558982
Nah man. Just keep at it. Chickens are pretty easy and you can do it. Your biggest hurdle now is to finish the coop before they outgrow the brooder. Once you get that done, just make sure they have food and clean water and you should only need to check on them twice a day (morning to let them into the run and evening to lock up after the go to bed) Barred rocks are a good choice. Did you get pullets or straight run?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 16:23:55 No.2559221 Report

Quoted By: >>2559245 >>2559283 >>2576730

>>2559214
I got pullets because I was doubtful about taking care of a rooster. It should be ok without one.
The run that I build should be safe, as I always overthink things and always over prepare. I have a lot of predators around though, so I am still worried. Coyote, raccoon, foxes, mink, hawks, and owls all hang out on my property.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 17:38:06 No.2559245 Report

Quoted By: >>2559265 >>2559283

>>2559221
You still get the occasional cockerel in the mix. But they're easy animals and no picky about habitat. It's mostly predators, including humans and dogs that are an issue. And interflock conflict

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 18:15:19 No.2559265 Report

Quoted By: >>2559269

>>2559245
I will keep an eye on them to see if one is a rooster. I may or may not keep them if thats the case, it will probably depend on their behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 18:28:50 No.2559269 Report

Quoted By: >>2559477

>>2559265
You got to cuddle and embarrass
A rooster to keep them friendly and even then sometimes your get a dick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 19:11:56 No.2559283 Report

Quoted By: >>2559477 >>2576730

>>2559221
Pullets is good. In my experience, a straight run is mostly roosters, which leads to a lot of fighting and, of course, not as many eggs.

As >>2559245 said, you could still end up with a Roo, but it's not going to be so many as to cause problems. As long as you have them in a run that is secure from coons, you should be fine without a rooster. I would definitely pick one up though if you decide to let them free range at all when they are older. A good rooster will protect his ladies. My first one would charge across the yard any time he heard one of his ladies cry out if something spooked her. He looked mean, but was super easy to be around... I would not have called him friendly per se, but he wasn't the slightest bit aggressive towards humans, which mattered because he could stand up almost as tall as my toddler. I would avoid wyandotte roos because they are they opposite. We had them and they would jump at EVERYONE. Some decent roaster breeds would be White Rock (that was mine), barred rock, Rhode Island Red.

Rhode island red would be especially good for you if you decide to raise your own chicks later. RIR rooster with Barred rock hens is a very popular sex-link so you know the cockerels from the pullets at birth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Mar 2023 23:19:53 No.2559412 Report

Quoted By: >>2559439

>>2546699
I've been on 4chan for near a decade and realized there is no agriculture and livestock interest board. I was pretty surprised considering all the others. I've just now discovered /homestead/ and /HGM/ being the only places to talk about these topics. What is it then? Homestead has legal precedence in the United States and other British colonies as an official legal term. United States has dozens of Homestead Acts in our government regarding settling the western frontier. Even the modern concept of homesteading term that is so popular has origins in 18th century agriculturist philosophy. By broad definition a homestead is a home and it's adjoining land belonging to a family. It's an ancestral home. Basically a generational estate. I don't see why gardening should be separate from anything. We used all have gardens whether urban or rural living. It's really all about just making the best out of what you got on your land. Making your home produce resources. Working the land for both subsistence and income. For me, I don't know much. I'm brand new and lived in a city most my life. I plan to get several acres and just go for it. I just want to be farmer. I don't give a shit what you call it. Honestly I don't see the difference between the two generals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2023 00:28:20 No.2559439 Report

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>>2559412
I don't see a difference between them, so I follow both. There might have been a distinction at one point or another, but all of the topics interlace with each other, so it's not surprising that they both cover the same topics now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2023 00:55:57 No.2559460 Report

Quoted By: >>2559477

>>2558982
How many chickens are we talking about here? I'm not hearing a specific problem, maybe you're just anxious about the whole thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2023 02:38:23 No.2559477 Report

Quoted By:

>>2559269
>>2559283
Thank you.
I will learn to work with the rooster if that is how it turns out.
I did not really plan on letting them free range just because of the amount of predators. There are a lot of hawks in particular.
I had narrowed it down to a few specific breeds, like the rhode island red, but I ultimately decided on barred rock because I like the feathers. I really hope this works out.
>>2559460
I got seven of them.
You have to buy a minimum of six, and I didnt want to leave one alone in the thing at the store. I think that I would have preferred five, I dont know why. Maybe I feel like less can go wrong with less chickens. I am quite anxious about it, I worry a lot. Its a problem of mine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2023 06:58:38 No.2559540 Report

Quoted By:

>>2552438
>Got a good harvest from beans, though my family didn't like eating them.
What's wrong with your family?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2023 12:13:11 No.2559603 Report

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>>2546778
based tourist fleecer
open a "museum of local rural culture" full of random trash and rusty old tools people dig up in barn and would throw in a bin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2023 17:36:32 No.2559745 Report

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>>2546778
Peacocks, or "Juno's bird" are relatively cheap at around ~$10 per bird. They also cost about as much as a chicken to keep, and fit into the tourists' idea of what Greece looks like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2023 23:25:41 No.2559897 Report

Quoted By:

>>2558982
They're cheep livestock. Failure just means they die. Learn from your mistakes. Move on

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 02:51:21 No.2559957 Report

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>>2543379
bumpi

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 05:48:02 No.2560021 Report

Quoted By: >>2560039 >>2560385 >>2561315

>>2546778
Onions, Hardneck Garlic, and Shallots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 08:17:24 No.2560039 Report

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>>2560021
Beautiful photo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 21:48:57 No.2560350 Report

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>>2558747
>>2558745
>>2557817

Need some soil thickener

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 23:38:04 No.2560385 Report

Quoted By: >>2560504 >>2560928

Chicken update. They seem happy in their new pen and I am feeling much better about them. I used my dogs little pool, that she hates, as a new enclosure. I have also been trying to handle them to get them used to me. They have started jumping a lot.
>>2560021
Very nice! I just love garlic so much. It was the first thing that I successfully grew on my property. I harvested a lot of hardneck garlic last year and gave some to my mom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Mar 2023 07:54:31 No.2560504 Report

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>>2560385
Nice chickens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2023 05:50:50 No.2560928 Report

Quoted By: >>2560978

>>2560385
Cool. Always glad to hear that someone else grows hardneck garlic. What kind did you grow ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2023 11:46:34 No.2560978 Report

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>>2560928
Purple stripe. Very tasty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2023 02:53:13 No.2561315 Report

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>>2560021
love shallots

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2023 15:21:58 No.2561487 Report

Quoted By: >>2561571 >>2561977 >>2565740

How realistic is it to entertain fantasies of homesteading and raising some livestock if you’re a trucker who is gone five days out of the week? Like can I build a giant chicken enclosure and leave enough food and water out for the week and have them be OK? I know they have automated systems for watering gardens and what not but I really want goats and birds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2023 19:01:53 No.2561571 Report

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>>2561487
You would probably need to set up a good camera system. If something goes wrong you're screwed. Also there will be daily chores 100% necessary to be there for. If you think you can make money just hire someone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Apr 2023 04:43:19 No.2561725 Report

Quoted By: >>2561733

How many desert acres do you think it would take to support 6 or so sheep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Apr 2023 05:27:10 No.2561733 Report

Quoted By: >>2562546

>>2561725
Depends if you're going to let them "graze" on scrub or buy feed for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Apr 2023 10:24:00 No.2561789 Report

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>>2545726
Good luck, sounds like a rock solid foundation!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Apr 2023 10:32:23 No.2561791 Report

Quoted By:

>>2553567
it's what I am doing at least. Be upfront about your plans

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Apr 2023 10:33:48 No.2561792 Report

Quoted By:

>>2555732
which varieties? I'm growing butternut, hokkaido, crown prince f1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Apr 2023 11:14:02 No.2561799 Report

Quoted By:

not exactly homesteading but ive started to get into planting shit, rn only planted 3 berry stick tree things, very excited to see how itll go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Apr 2023 21:41:58 No.2561977 Report

Quoted By: >>2562471

>>2561487
>homesteading
>never home
What's the point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Apr 2023 23:43:54 No.2562019 Report

Quoted By:

>>2546706
I love you anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2023 01:03:36 No.2562044 Report

Quoted By: >>2562326

>>2546704
/out/ has a lot of gatkeepers

Very dumb

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Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2023 01:24:27 No.2562049 Report

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Egg haul

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Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2023 02:24:38 No.2562070 Report

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Yeah whatever there's some dumbo dumbing, big deal.
Here's my wabbit. I want to get him a gf, but I fear they will become too numerous. Also I don't have a place to hold them, and this little dude goes away all night as it is; with enough of these the smell will attract the coyotes and it won't be nice.
Yeah, I could eat them, but like >>2552740 I can't get myself to do it. I couldn't kill an aggresive rooster, let alone a fluffy rabbit.
Man I need to man up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2023 02:32:58 No.2562071 Report

Quoted By:

>>2552520
Perennial shrubs. Maybe a nut tree, depending on your climate, hazel would be good, if your site is big enough. Besides the hazel, find out what shrubs grow in your area, go take a walk. You might be able to grow blackberries, raspberries, gooseberry, and in he shade of those fellas, all the herbs you can find. Lavender, basil, rosemary, thyme.
Separate the organic waste from your kitchen, throw it in bin or just pile it up at the back of the yard, rake the leaves on summer and throw them on top. Give it a turn every month or so, and after 6 months use it as fertilizer for your stuff. Pull out any weeds that seem to affect your plants, such as climbers, or anything that starts to take up space from your plants.
Use some of that compost to try and grow anything that comes your way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2023 18:43:18 No.2562320 Report

Quoted By:

>>2552740
Start by just shooting them in the skull with a .22 or 9mm to start. About as quick, easy, and painless as you can get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2023 19:07:46 No.2562326 Report

Quoted By:

>>2562044
I'm sure lots of people here have cats whys that dumb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2023 22:20:40 No.2562430 Report

Quoted By: >>2563011

>>2543379
Bumpoo

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Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2023 00:19:19 No.2562471 Report

Quoted By: >>2563132

>>2561977
I would be gone five days and four nights out of the week. Still home on the weekends

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2023 02:54:52 No.2562513 Report

Quoted By: >>2563485

Anyone have some game changing revelations they could share? Things you wish you could have known sooner?

I'll start...I always thought that goat kids should be separated at night and milk the doe in the morning before reuniting them for the day. But this meant mid-night bottle feeding and waking up early to milk the goat. I am NOT a morning person and I move like a slug until about 10am even though I am usually up for hours before that.
I started separating them in the morning, milking after dinner, and then reunite for bed time. I just walk out in my PJs and let the doe our before I start breakfast. She gets all day long to browse the brush around our house and can come check on her babies through the fence as often as she likes. I'm fully alert and awake when I go give them bottles and am able to enjoy the time with them. She gets milked on a more regular schedule because dinner is usually at 6, which puts me outside to milk around 6:30 and her back with her babies by 7pm and I get to go to sleep with only my own children to worry about.
Also, I learned that I can tie her leg back so she cant step in the bucket during milking! It seems like a no brainier, but I was fighting stompers for so long and now, with the schedule change and the leg tie, miking takes about 10minutes instead of 30 minutes with little to show for it! I'm so excited and happy to have this thing finally working out for me.

What kinds of game-changers have you experienced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2023 04:37:57 No.2562546 Report

Quoted By: >>2563020

>>2561733
let's say half and half

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Apr 2023 06:32:49 No.2563011 Report

Quoted By:

>>2562430
True?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Apr 2023 07:35:35 No.2563020 Report

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>>2562546
On good land you can run 6-8 goats a acre. And thats with buying feed. I'd say 1 or 2 per acre in a desert/arid area. Even then you need more land so you can rotate the pasture unless you increase the amount bought feed. But I'm not goat expert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Apr 2023 12:40:40 No.2563132 Report

Quoted By:

>>2562471
I'd suggest pursuing a different career. Or start trucking locally so you can be home everyday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Apr 2023 14:22:14 No.2563220 Report

Quoted By: >>2563240 >>2563282 >>2563944 >>2565740

hi i'm not reading a single post in this thread.
i have a question for you guys
how many of you itt live off grid vs how many of you guys just watch youtubes about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Apr 2023 14:54:53 No.2563240 Report

Quoted By:

>>2563220
Only the siith deal in absolutes. Kill this man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Apr 2023 15:38:06 No.2563282 Report

Quoted By: >>2564422

>>2563220
I dont live off grid. But I have 6 acres and produce food for myself on it. I fix our own shit and my wife bakes our bread.
We preserve for winter and produce out own compost. Stared an orchard last year. In the evenings I am stiff from work. I sit on my porch and watch deer play in my yard while my wife makes dinner. Sometimes I play pokemon.

What have you done?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Apr 2023 21:49:32 No.2563485 Report

Quoted By: >>2563556

>>2562513
Thanks for sharing anon.

Game changer: not from personal experience but make connections with local bank officials and the nearest federal agriculture official. Lot of financing and grant opportunities out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 00:20:06 No.2563556 Report

Quoted By:

>>2563485
What US states have the best grants and programs for homesteaders starting out? I don't have the money I need yet. Getting there but it helps to have a goal in mind. Also am learning as many diy skills as I can to fix up any structures I might need to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 17:39:04 No.2563944 Report

Quoted By: >>2564018 >>2564248 >>2564332 >>2574472

>>2563220
Not even close to off-grid, but..

Raising my kids with my wife on 50 acres of land that backs up onto a major river. Got a few tractors, an old truck, keep about 30 or 40 chickens and ducks, multiple food plots, I hunt and fish, and we can and preserve a lot of what we grow. I cut our own firewood, soon will make my own lumber too when I have my mill up and running. Looking to get into raising pigs and a cow or two in the near future after I get some hay equipment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 20:12:39 No.2564018 Report

Quoted By:

>>2563944
May I ask how old you are? Also congrats, I'll hope to be there in a few years

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 06:33:18 No.2564248 Report

Quoted By: >>2564332

>>2563944
Can you share what state? And how much you paid per acre?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 15:10:10 No.2564332 Report

Quoted By: >>2564700

>>2563944
I'll be 30 this year
>>2564248
Eastern leafistan. I bought a fixer upper house on 5 acres afor 110k back in 2017 and have been working on it ever since lol. It was right next to my grandfather's woodlot, and I was fortunate enough to inherit the 45 acres of timber and marsh when he passed. Hustling to build up a business and some money in the bank so I can make an offer on the 50 acre lot next door in the future so I can have something to pass on to my son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 19:22:42 No.2564422 Report

Quoted By: >>2564804

>>2563282
>my wife bakes my bread
What grain/cereal do you use?
How do you process it? Do you have a combiner?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Apr 2023 04:00:53 No.2564700 Report

Quoted By: >>2564771

>>2564332
> $110k Canadian for house and five acres in 2017

You're very lucky anon. Today, that price would be significantly higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Apr 2023 08:38:22 No.2564755 Report

Quoted By:

>>2546057
thinklikeahorse does great videos but he can get into rants too often. just skip his rants and look for positive videos. some of his rants can be informative if you never heard them before but trust me even if you agree they get tiresome to hear over and over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Apr 2023 08:40:15 No.2564756 Report

Quoted By:

>>2546723
Thats not evidence
>the goalpost will be moved
timestamp and thread number sticky note have been a staple on this website since 2007 you fucking newfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Apr 2023 11:30:25 No.2564771 Report

Quoted By: >>2565064

>>2564700
>you are very lucky
Tell me about it. But it was market value for the area at the time. Based on other listings around me I could ask 6 - 700k for the entire acreage, not that I'll ever sell. I don't envy a young guy trying to put down roots today, seems almost impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Apr 2023 13:39:48 No.2564804 Report

Quoted By:

>>2564422
We buy flour. We aren't autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2023 01:17:30 No.2565064 Report

Quoted By: >>2565089

>>2564771
$600-700k Canadian for 5 acres with house in your neck of the woods? That... actually sounds about right for CAN. Certainly would cost at least 2x that in the GTA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2023 03:25:08 No.2565089 Report

Quoted By: >>2565379

>>2565064
I was counting the house and 5 acres + 45 acre woodlot.

There a place less than a few km from me, 30 acres with a 30 year old minhome and a couple old old falling down barns and an old farmhouse that has been vacant for 30+ years. Asking $450k

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2023 03:36:52 No.2565090 Report

Quoted By: >>2565147 >>2565259

Anyone sugaring tonight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2023 11:37:20 No.2565147 Report

Quoted By:

>>2565090
Nah, I don't even really care for syrup that much, and everybody and their mother makes it around here. I'll buy a bottle of theirs and it will last me a year or more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2023 19:06:57 No.2565259 Report

Quoted By:

>>2565090
I have access to a couple of large sugar maples but I didnt have the time this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2023 22:55:30 No.2565368 Report

Quoted By: >>2565850

>>2549975
Just split mine yesterday.
Feral colony I caught as a swarm out of a bee tree.

They have been the most productive bees I've had. When I went to split them they had 2 mediums and a deep I gave them 6 frames of medium brood and the parent colony still had 2-4 frames of brood and was filling the extra super with nectar already. I had to give them another super to keep them busy.
> Tl;Dr feral bees are based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2023 23:29:53 No.2565379 Report

Quoted By:

>>2565089
This is total insanity but sounds about right for the CAN / US markets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2023 00:11:35 No.2565403 Report

Quoted By:

>>2546707
Random muttflock of meme breeds with no concrete purpose.

Backyard chicken keeper detected. Opinion disregard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2023 02:00:21 No.2565471 Report

Quoted By: >>2565555 >>2565631

>have savings
>move to northern state where stuff is cheaper (flyover, one of the Dakotas)
>live in simple apartment, take funds from job to buy land and put shed (or elog house kit or just build with trees on the property) on said land
>build a simple homestead with job money
>quit job and live at homestead full time
>worst case scenario use tech knowledge to do a WFH job
how retarded is this idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2023 09:42:20 No.2565555 Report

Quoted By: >>2565631 >>2566542

>>2565471
that's more or less my plan as well. I'm a 'self employed' software dev and my goal is to buy a piece of land and gradually build it up. I like my job so I would like to keep working, at least part time, once I'm on the homestead. The best case would be if one of my projects turns into a profitable company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2023 10:17:29 No.2565563 Report

Quoted By: >>2565676

WATER'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO GROW ANYTHING FUCK
NO IT DOESN'T RAIN HERE FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2023 16:01:28 No.2565631 Report

Quoted By: >>2565896 >>2566542

>>2565471
>>2565555
Have you researched how much it's going to cost to build your house? Kits are expensive and they usually don't include any plumbing or electrical... They are just fancy looking sheds which is why shed to tiny home conversions are so popular... So unless you want primitive housing with no running water and no electricity, you are going to have to figure out how much that costs and if it is even something you are capable of learning how to do.

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for building up a homestead. I did it myself. But I wasn't about to do everything myself from square one. There's a reason I'm not a plumber or an electrician. I used an old, but functional single wide. I opted to put in a well instead of getting on public water. Getting that up in my area (well, septic, electricity, and the trailer moving costs) cost about $30k plus what I spent on the used trailer I found on craigslist and the cost of the land itself. It would probably be more today just because gas prices have gone up so much.

Everything said and done, I would rather buy an old house with some acreage and go from there. Even if it's only 2 acres, it's a good starting point especially if you can get it for less than it costs to put in a new home site. Once you have done enough homesteading that you need more room, you will have improved the property so much that you should be able to sell it for a profit and you will have a better idea of what things actually work for you, rather than going off all the memes that everyone falls for in the beginning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2023 17:49:55 No.2565676 Report

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>>2565563
>DOESN'T RAIN HERE

make a chembuster

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Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2023 20:40:14 No.2565740 Report

Quoted By:

>>2561487
Well, you could do a lot with etc. timers/smart devices, but you will need a person for back up.

>>2563220
In my garden I have pear, apples, plums, blackberry, strawberry, mulberry, cherries, raspberry (yellow, red), currant (white, red, black), grapes, Blueberries, sea berry, quince, pumpkins, carrots, rhubarb, potatoes (new this year) and all kinds' kitchen herbs, and some random mushrooms.

But I live only 15-20 minutes from a 250k city, so not even close to anything off-grid or a homestead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kinda happy, but I'm saving money and concentrating on my job to get more remote option and buy some raw land. So i test now and dream for later and collect ideas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Apr 2023 02:39:35 No.2565850 Report

Quoted By: >>2566228

>>2565368
>feral beekeeper

Profoundly based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Apr 2023 05:51:19 No.2565896 Report

Quoted By:

>>2565631
I'm doing research when I have free time to do so. I just think of these questions and try to get the answer right away, so I spend less time factoring in something that won't work. Only thing I'm hesitant on is an old building on a property that's not structurally sound.
For water, I feel like I'm too much of a prissy bitch to go without city water, but I would like to use solar panels if possible.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Apr 2023 19:45:18 No.2566207 Report

Quoted By: >>2567195 >>2572275

I have a first year Meyer lemon tree and so far three little yellow lemons about the size of Jellybeans have already fallen off. Is this normal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Apr 2023 20:35:14 No.2566228 Report

Quoted By: >>2566685

>>2565850
Why pay for bees when you can get local hardy bees?

Worst case scenario I get a hot hive and have to requeen.

I'm slowly starting to get equipment and numbers in preparation for trying to create superior bees using selected genetics (for my area). Beegenics if you will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Apr 2023 03:05:42 No.2566433 Report

Quoted By: >>2567988

>>2543379
Bumpooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Apr 2023 11:38:26 No.2566542 Report

Quoted By:

>>2565631

(>>2565555) I'm a DIY guy so yes, I've looked into how to install e.g. septic systems, electricity, and stuff like that.
With unlimited money I'd buy an old stone farmhouse with 100+ acres but I'm in my mid twenties and just started working.
The way I imagined it was working ~3-4 months full time on the property and then fuck off and work for the remaining time for the first few years.
In the first year the time would be mainly spent by analyzing the property, clearing a (small) building site, and felling trees / cutting wood for a first cavin. Once that's done I'd draw up a concrete plan for that first cabin (which one day should serve as a place for inlaws/friends to stay) and build that in the second season.
After that shaping the garden, more planning, bigger house, etc. and one day one could move there full time.
I have a gf and convincing her to live with me in a small shed and shit in the woods is impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Apr 2023 14:27:35 No.2566567 Report

Quoted By: >>2567209 >>2567445

Winter squash is one of my favorite vegetables, but I have had really bad problems with vine borers killing every plant I have. Apparently it's the Hubbard type squash that are most affected by them, and that's the cool varieties I try to plant. I've had great success with spaghetti squash in the past, but I really want a "regular" type pumpkin. I've heard C.Moschata is most resistant to the borers, so I'm trying long island cheese this year. Will they be good, or is there something else I should do to ensure success?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Apr 2023 15:26:01 No.2566591 Report

Quoted By: >>2566889

>>2543379
I bought an abandoned house with a barren plot of land. I want to plant some trees that are quick to grow and will provide good shade in the future. I'm located in zone 6. I've read about the empress tree - apparently it grows extremely quick, however I've also read reports that it won't properly grow where I'm located due to cold winters.
What are the quickest growing shade trees for zone 6?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Apr 2023 19:39:53 No.2566681 Report

Quoted By: >>2566965 >>2567106

I need a reality check on my pipe dream. There's an uninhabited island in the Aleutians that I've found out about. It looks ideal for making a homestead. The climate is roughly similar to the Faroe Islands, and it'd be perfect for grazing sheep. However, it's "managed" by the Alaska National Heritage Wildlife Refuge. Presumably, I can't just set up shop there. Is it possible to squat there and not get kicked out the second a park janny notices me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Apr 2023 19:51:34 No.2566685 Report

Quoted By:

>>2566228
This is cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Apr 2023 02:50:27 No.2566889 Report

Quoted By:

>>2566591
Hybrid poplar is a fast grower

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Apr 2023 07:24:24 No.2566965 Report

Quoted By:

>>2566681
This is likely not legal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Apr 2023 14:45:34 No.2567095 Report

Quoted By:

>>2543807
Please do milk sheep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Apr 2023 15:02:05 No.2567106 Report

Quoted By:

>>2566681
How would you plan on getting supplies, fuel or replacement parts? Not exactly a quick trip to the hardware store, and doubt anyone would deliver to an illegal squatter on an uninhabited island.

Jannies would be the least of your worries

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Anonymous Thu 13 Apr 2023 18:39:22 No.2567195 Report

Quoted By: >>2567838 >>2572275

>>2566207
Fuck bros two more fell off today, what do I do? could it possibly be too small of a tree for the lemons? I'm not sure why they're turning yellow and then just falling off on their own

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Apr 2023 19:27:55 No.2567209 Report

Quoted By:

>>2566567
I had terrible luck with vine borers for years, but found that the solution was to tent my vines with muslin when soil temps broke into the 70s (second or 3rd week of June, here). Put out a trap for the adults (yellow bowl of water with a drop of soap to break surface tension), and take your covers off when you go a week without catching one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Apr 2023 06:18:41 No.2567445 Report

Quoted By:

>>2566567
Good luck anon

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Anonymous Fri 14 Apr 2023 22:53:58 No.2567817 Report

Quoted By: >>2572277

Alright fellas I've started to make some real steps towards having a little homestead.
Currently own a decently sized home with a bigass garage with space for projects, sitting on 5 acres of land. Wife and I started a small garden that honestly might not do too hot but we'll see- we planted tomatoes, strawberries, potatoes, beans, and carrots. We also planted a blueberry bush, a pecan tree (looks more like a fucking stick in the dirt honestly) and a peach tree.
About 1.5 acres of the property is fenced out for horses or cattle but local laws say you can only have 2 large animals per 5 acres of land so I'm kind of torn on what I want to do there. We're going to build a chicken coop within the next few weeks and get some chickens for egg laying and maybe a couple of meat birds.

What else should I try to do with all this land? I'm a first time home owner and honestly outside of working on a small organic farm for a year I don't have a ton of experience. I can give more details as needed because I'm sure this is fairly vague.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 00:12:15 No.2567838 Report

Quoted By: >>2567852 >>2572275

>>2567195
Just one lemon left guys. Anything? Any advice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 00:55:46 No.2567852 Report

Quoted By: >>2567864

>>2567838
Are you watering it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 01:26:56 No.2567864 Report

Quoted By: >>2567893

>>2567852
Yes, daily. At sunset so I don't burn it. Gave it a little fertilizer too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 03:10:35 No.2567893 Report

Quoted By: >>2567904

>>2567864
Maybe you're over watering. Do you let the soil dry out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 03:31:17 No.2567904 Report

Quoted By:

>>2567893
That's what I thought, I only water it for a couple of minutes every day but I'll get in the habit of checking the soil dryness. It's got one little yellow lemon left, but maybe the tree is just too young since it's only about a foot tall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 03:43:20 No.2567909 Report

Quoted By: >>2568337

Caught a swarm of bees in a swarm trap today. Southern Ohio here so if any beekeepers out there that haven't done inspections yet you might be dangerously close to them swarming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 11:29:49 No.2567988 Report

Quoted By:

>>2566433
Too soon???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 13:09:57 No.2568016 Report

Quoted By:

Link to the server?

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Anonymous Sat 15 Apr 2023 18:16:32 No.2568107 Report

Quoted By: >>2569625

Hey anons, do you have any advice for catching pests or naturally deterring them, mainly rabbits and squirrels? The fuckers keep digging up my peas and peanuts or just eating the young sprigs and its rather annoying. Most of the plants are fine, and I snared around entry points to catch the rabbits but have no luck just yet. I was thinking of making a crossbow to pop them when they are running around late at night/early in the morning but I wanted a natural deterrent that I don't have to go to the store to buy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Apr 2023 08:24:12 No.2568337 Report

Quoted By:

>>2567909
Oh wow, that's not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Apr 2023 04:23:56 No.2569259 Report

Quoted By:

>>2543381
Chart?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Apr 2023 21:44:50 No.2569614 Report

Quoted By:

>>2546057
Beautiful photo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Apr 2023 22:18:02 No.2569625 Report

Quoted By:

>>2568107
Blood powder. Predator urine. You can supply the latter if you eat steak until you get the meat sweats and wait an hour before taking a leak.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 19:32:48 No.2569971 Report

Quoted By: >>2570995

>>2546707
Nice chickens bro, here’s some of mine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Apr 2023 08:41:11 No.2570199 Report

Quoted By: >>2570917

>>2546057
What a sexy horse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Apr 2023 18:11:54 No.2570917 Report

Quoted By:

>>2570199
>/MLP/ CONTAINMENT BREACH
MODS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Apr 2023 20:47:15 No.2570995 Report

Quoted By:

>>2569971
NTA but nice chickens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Apr 2023 21:13:09 No.2571011 Report

Quoted By: >>2571165 >>2571629

Keep this general alive
We are all gonna make it anons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Apr 2023 05:29:57 No.2571165 Report

Quoted By:

>>2571011
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Apr 2023 13:29:48 No.2571629 Report

Quoted By:

>>2571011
Hopefully

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 00:08:42 No.2571894 Report

Quoted By: >>2571910

which is the best tropical country to start a homestead (self sufficiency/permaculture) in terms of soil quality/economic conditions/cost of permanent residency?
>costa rica
>panama
>ecuador
>belize
>colombia
etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 01:16:11 No.2571910 Report

Quoted By:

>>2571894
There's a lot of variables there anon.

Good news is that warmer climates are often better for growing. You may want to focus on socioeconomic, cultural, financial, and familial considerations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 01:59:34 No.2571919 Report

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Is homesteading still viable in eastern wa or northern idaho? I’m probably going to be moving that direction

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 03:14:08 No.2571935 Report

Quoted By: >>2572384

My cousin called me saying he had a swarm of honey bees in his chimney. It turned out to be the largest swarm of bees I've ever seen in person. Used some smoke and honey robber to run them out of the chimney and into a 10 frame. Managed to cage the queen in the process and pop her in the box. My apiary grows stronger frens

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:18:55 No.2572275 Report

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>>2566207
>>2567195
>>2567838
Your tree seems to be still too young. It is very normal for citrus trees to drop a lot of early fruit, you just need to wait until it grows a bit more and puts out more fruit. You might do well in fertilizing it by throwing your kitchen scraps on the ground near it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:23:38 No.2572277 Report

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>>2567817
I would plant several trees and just keep the weeds from taking them over for the first few years. A lot of land is not easy to manage, so the least amoujt of work needed is the best, at least for the first few years while you focus on your more immediate surroundings near your house. In the meantime, those trees you plant will grow and produce yields in 3 or 4 years. I would also let any perennial shrubs that don't i terfere with the stuff you're planting. Do walk the land every day and figure out the character of each zone and the vegetation that develops there, the sun patterns, the water flow, etc.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 03:58:48 No.2572384 Report

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>>2571935
Nice anon

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 04:08:33 No.2572388 Report

Quoted By: >>2572914

>>2543807
>>2543884
>>2546699
We've got Nubian goats (8 adult females, 9 three week old babies, more on the way), chickens, and ducks. Bout to start cheese production this week, we've got a fuckload of milk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 23:16:37 No.2572742 Report

Quoted By: >>2572798 >>2573346 >>2574469

25 years old here, been thinking about living full time in a 30ft yurt.
Is it a good idea to drop 35k on making a proper 4 season one with basic electricity system, wood stove and composting toilet? I've already got the land. My job only requires an internet connection so starlink is fine.
My parent keep telling me to drop it and wait to build a 350k Mchouse like a normal person but I'm losing my mind at the idea of being a slave for the next 25 years of my life paying a mortgage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 02:36:52 No.2572798 Report

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>>2572742
Worst case you can rent it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 11:45:03 No.2572914 Report

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>>2572388
Lovely anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 12:37:52 No.2572920 Report

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>>2543807
A lot of people raise both, my cousins raise cattle though on ranches. If you raise both sheep and goats, a good shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, to prevent transmission of diseases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 12:42:09 No.2572922 Report

Quoted By: >>2572925

>>2545726
Solar power is a big game changer for rural America and provides good blue collar work installing those panels. I see more of em down South and in Appalachia as solar is now decently affordable. Some power companies are making it political and trying to push back on it, because they want a monopoly on energy for their profits really. They find self-sustenance to be threatening, understandably so, as fossil fuels are their business model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 12:53:59 No.2572925 Report

Quoted By: >>2573086

>>2572922

Affordable solar + well/rain water.

Suddenly you have a household that doesn't need the power grid or the water grid for essential utilities.

Saves a ton of money for the household, even protects against neglected infrastructure.

But decreases utility company revenue, which they don't like, and they are very rich.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 18:58:44 No.2573075 Report

Quoted By: >>2573220

>>2555518

I’m grossed out by my own food. It’s stupid and need to get over it but doing the processing makes me lose all appetite and I pick at the food.

Took 2 years before I ate my eggs. I’m a germaphobe, both people and animals gross me out. I’m sure it’s connect but don’t know what it stems from I just don’t like other bodies.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 19:25:13 No.2573086 Report

Quoted By: >>2573212 >>2573216

>>2572925
luckily we have zoning regulations that make this virtually impossible
>need mains power and a well to get a building permit
thank you lane county, you fucking cunts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 02:36:36 No.2573212 Report

Quoted By: >>2573217

>>2573086
lol i'm in lane county. we just pump from the creek

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Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 02:53:44 No.2573216 Report

Quoted By: >>2573217 >>2573221

>>2573086
:)
we're a bit out past CG , our well water is mostly arsenic (mix of trivalent/pentavalent) -- the concentration is so high that filtering it is just pointless. But the county and our bank still forced us to get a well installed before building

spent $10k on it, and its never really been used -- we've been trucking water in.
there's a spring on our property that we're in the process of setting up filtration for though. i don't even know if we can legally use it, but at this point, i don't care.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 02:54:45 No.2573217 Report

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>>2573216
whoops, i'm a retard, meant for
>>2573212

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Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 03:09:24 No.2573220 Report

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>>2573075
Lol get over it you pussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 03:13:27 No.2573221 Report

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>>2573216
damn that sucks. I'm west of you, up in the mountains. Worst I gotta worry about is runoff of they decide to clear cut upstream, but so far it hasn't been an issue.
Nice weather we had today :) got a lot of gardening done

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Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 04:13:22 No.2573244 Report

Quoted By: >>2573258 >>2573375

Does anyone have any book recommendations on the topic of small scale agriculture? I've read The Market Gardener and the Eliot Coleman books but I'm also interested in more conventional minded approaches if warranted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 04:48:53 No.2573258 Report

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>>2573244
The book Living on a few acres by the USDA has couple sections on small scale farming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 06:08:59 No.2573276 Report

Quoted By: >>2573382 >>2573841

>>2543379
Is it possible to go from utter loser overweight with no skills to a homesteader?
I didn't have a father growing up so I feel like my life is already doomed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 10:30:00 No.2573346 Report

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>>2572742
Good luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 12:08:30 No.2573375 Report

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>>2573244
Check your local ag extension offices or website or one from a state with a similar climate. They're fucking great. At least all the ones I've checked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 12:35:53 No.2573380 Report

Quoted By: >>2574467

How do you guys make money off of your chickens/ducks/poultry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 12:37:11 No.2573382 Report

Quoted By: >>2573383

>>2573276
if you have an income and the space you can just start small.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Apr 2023 12:40:26 No.2573383 Report

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>>2573382
He can't start small, he's obese.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Apr 2023 12:46:15 No.2573818 Report

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My chickens are growing stronker. They somehow broke out of the brooder and explored. They will be moved to the coop soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Apr 2023 13:22:17 No.2573840 Report

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Hope y'alls harvests are bountiful God bless

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Apr 2023 13:24:47 No.2573841 Report

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>>2573276

It's all in your head anon.

If you wanna lose weight just diet and exercise.

If you want to homestead then learn how it works and put in the work.

My dad grew up without a father as an orphan, but he had Jesus.

Would always tell me that he had guidance from the Holy Father.

Lifted himself out of extreme poverty and ended up just fine.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 01:10:03 No.2574099 Report

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One of the farm cats decided to come watch me weed flower beds.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 01:13:51 No.2574100 Report

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>>2574099
Err, wait, we're planting brassicas in what we worked today. No flowers. I'm stoned. The farm cat decided that me petting it was more important than weeding

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Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 01:18:07 No.2574102 Report

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parrot/chicken hybrid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 01:27:21 No.2574104 Report

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>>2543379
I drive by his barn weekly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 02:08:30 No.2574127 Report

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>>2574104
No shit? Is it this pretty?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 02:09:06 No.2574129 Report

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Anyone have any experience with draft animals? I feel like they're an excellent solution to true off-grid farming. All you really need is grass and water for petroleum-free pulling power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 02:59:17 No.2574145 Report

Quoted By: >>2575852

>>2574129
You know there is a reason why animal power was largely abandoned at turn of the century...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 23:17:40 No.2574467 Report

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>>2573380
we sell eggs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 23:19:42 No.2574469 Report

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>>2572742
>35k for a tent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Apr 2023 23:21:51 No.2574472 Report

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>>2563944
get some sheep and be blessed

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Anonymous Sun 30 Apr 2023 00:55:37 No.2574490 Report

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I planted a small orchard last year with the intention of essentially transforming about a third of my yard into a walkable garden featuring almost only food producing plants.

This year I have noticed two of my best growing trees- a plum and peach- with major damage. I'm worried it's canker fungus of some sort, but the trees otherwise look great and are growing phenomenally. Do you think this is just bark splitting from rapid growth or a fungal infection?

The first picture is the peach in question. It is near 4 other peach trees. This one is just a lowes special I got near the end of season last year and it has taken off. It has never been pruned or injured. I assume any infection It may have occurred prior to acquisition?

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Anonymous Sun 30 Apr 2023 00:59:35 No.2574492 Report

Quoted By: >>2575049

Here is the plum. It is a bare root I got from some online orchard early last season. It is the fastest growing tree I have and went from a sad little four foot tall stick to 8 feet tall and still going. It did have a small "sore" like this last year at a crotch between two branches but nothing severe. It blossomed and fruited heavily this year, but due to an Indian summer and an April cold snap everything fell off... ultimately not that big a deal at this point in its life cycle.

I treat my fruit trees with immunox and have been doing so regularly due to a bad powdery mildew problem with my apple trees (despite them supposedly being resistant...) but these trees are very far apart and until very recently showed no issues with disease and other than this look great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Apr 2023 01:03:29 No.2574493 Report

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How do you nags monetize your life? Do you still rely on your day jobs? How do you sell shit like if you have goats how can you sell the meat or other products? Do you have to pay "taxes" to the farmers market mafia or other similar industry controllers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 11:22:49 No.2575049 Report

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>>2574492
Beautiful plum and story

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 May 2023 09:41:53 No.2575523 Report

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>>2543807
Goat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 May 2023 10:46:38 No.2575532 Report

Quoted By: >>2575633

I'm letting a broody chicken sit on a clutch of duck eggs. Because what the hell why not.
Going to try selling greens this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 May 2023 17:55:52 No.2575633 Report

Quoted By: >>2575910 >>2575930

>>2575532

You're going to end up with tranny ducks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 May 2023 23:52:55 No.2575772 Report

Quoted By: >>2575813

Is there a chance that red sex link hens can go broody.? I don't have a rooster at the moment, but I think it would be cool to have a hen raise her own chicks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 May 2023 01:12:34 No.2575813 Report

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>>2575772
Pretty much any hen can go broody, some breeds are just more likely to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 May 2023 02:47:58 No.2575852 Report

Quoted By: >>2576259

>>2574145
Fossil fuels, but that anon was specifically talking about off-grid farming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 May 2023 03:24:59 No.2575868 Report

Quoted By: >>2575869

Any tips for selling ducklings that you hatched? Are they easy to move? what is the likelihood that you end up with ducklings to feed and house for way longer than youd like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 May 2023 03:26:48 No.2575869 Report

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>>2575868
I tried to hatch pekins, runners and welsh harlequinx Runner mixes but basically only got the welsh runner mixes to hatch. Lots of demand for the runners and the pekins which didnt really end up hatching. I can always hatch them this next time around, hopefully it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 May 2023 03:28:29 No.2575871 Report

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>>2552740
It gets easier over time.

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Anonymous Wed 03 May 2023 05:09:59 No.2575901 Report

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>>2552740
You can love something and still slaughter it for food
Alternatively you can hire a butcher to do it for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 May 2023 05:55:05 No.2575910 Report

Quoted By: >>2576499

>>2575633
I already have an interspecies fetish rooster so they'll fit in fine.
The Pekins are to big to sit.on eggs. They the bigger once end up crushing eggs if I let them pile up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 May 2023 08:19:19 No.2575930 Report

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>>2575633
Kek

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Anonymous Thu 04 May 2023 05:21:55 No.2576259 Report

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>>2575852
Right. You still need to feed and take care of your draft animals even when they're not working. Feed and vet bills are not cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 May 2023 20:32:38 No.2576499 Report

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>>2575910
>rooster
why

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Anonymous Thu 04 May 2023 20:33:41 No.2576501 Report

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>>2552740
first few times are hard, then it just becomes work

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Anonymous Thu 04 May 2023 23:30:56 No.2576574 Report

Quoted By: >>2576707

>>2543379
Any recommendations for places <$20k that I can park a trailer on? I don't intend to live there full time, just want a place I can visit and hunt/fish on, preferably with ample rainfall every year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 May 2023 00:27:19 No.2576602 Report

Quoted By: >>2576649

>>2543379
Redpill me on Joel Salatin and Polyface farms

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 May 2023 02:18:19 No.2576649 Report

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>>2576602
He believes in what he preaches and it works. He writes books and sells expensive meat to yuppies to cash in on it. People rip him for it, but why shouldn't he. Sounds pretty based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 May 2023 02:46:45 No.2576663 Report

Quoted By: >>2576707

Looking for tiny home recommendations and step-by-step shipping container build guides

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 May 2023 07:12:33 No.2576707 Report

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>>2576663
>>2576574
These posts probably say a lot about the state of Zoomer / Millenial finances compared to asset prices (ie. Housing prices and land prices are totally divorced from the realities of what people can afford because these respective classes being overinflated financial assets creates a new form of utility whereby they can be collateralized and traded on, which unlocks more immediate value to society than a farm would - immediate payback versus many years of payback)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 May 2023 09:38:10 No.2576725 Report

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>>2558982
It’s pretty easy, I took care of some as a kid and have chickens that I raised from eggs 5+ years ago that are still alive today. Just give them food and water of course and then some shade too. None of mine have ever been killed by predators which is probably the biggest problem, as I keep mine in a large cage/dog run and have dogs that patrol the yard and keep Coyotes and foxes away. The only annoying part here in Canada is winter, during which they go in an old shed with a heat lamp and electric heater.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 May 2023 10:36:30 No.2576730 Report

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>>2559221
>>2559283
My Leghorn Chicks I hatched were apparently all supposed to be hens, yet out of the seven I had, 6 turned out to be Roosters. Not sure what happened there Lmao. I kept one Rooster and traded the rest for 3 hens. My Leghorn rooster has never once attacked me, though I chose him because he was the meekest and got bullied the most by the others growing up. I had a Rhode Island Red rooster previously, and he would attack me sometimes, but I got him as an adult not as a chick like the other if that makes any difference. Didn’t really bother me much though, you should ideally just wear tough pants and/or long boots and be wary when around an aggressive rooster. It can hurt pretty bad though if they manage to get a good hit in on unprotected skin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 14:51:26 No.2577671 Report

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New thread

>>2577670

>>2577670

>>2577670

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Anonymous Mon 08 May 2023 11:56:14 No.2578151 Report

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>>2543379
I'm thinking of starting my own farm or ranch, but there's a problem. I'm in a country where there's only thick rainforest jungles, and 70% humidity all day. Should I just give up?

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