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outdoor jacket and pants

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I want to buy an outdoor jacket and pants because I only have m81 bdus but I'd like to have something more normal looking for going on trails or with other people, and also they're cool.

I'm thinking helikon tex woodsman jacket and pilgrim pants, are they good?
otherwise for the pants I also like fjallraven barents but they're expensive as shit

I'd be using them for going in wooded areas with sometimes medium to thick underbrush, plains and mud, temperate climate, sometimes it rains, but also go in the mountains where it's cold, I dont care about insulation I just want then as general purpose outer layers, like my bdu is, I put the insulation under them if needed