>>2570717Depends on the time of year. Summer and midfall can be horrendous but if the peak is NOT the tallest or special one in the range (Mount Marcy is 8 up and 8 down) most normies won't do any other mountains that are more than 10 mile round trips. Washington is ridiculous in the fall because they keep building stuff on top, you can drive, take a train up, and buy lunch up there. The rest of the presidentials aren't so bad, just really frustrating when you are gassed because you just climbed 7200ft net after slogging through the ankle busting talis for the last 10 miles and you see these old folks with the summit with you. Good that they can enjoy the view but Addys with the exception of Whiteface Mountain are more difficult to access. Thats one thing that is really nice about the Catskills, the 3500 challenge avoids almost all the normie hikes (Kaaterskill Falls, etc.) with the exception of Panther, Slide, and Hunter mountain. I've never done the Catskills in the summer but in the Winter/Spring I'll usually only see 3 people on the trail on average.