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Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 06:44:50 No.257960 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>257998 >>258057 >>258397 >>258449 >>258521 >>258544 >>258877 >>258998 >>259048 >>259544

What is /out/'s opinion of Mountain House. I've read good reviews about it but also complaints that they're high in sodium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 06:52:30 No.257963 Report

Quoted By: >>257967 >>258634

Decent taste, they are high in sodium but they would taste like ass without. Look into buying a food dehydrator, they aren't that expense and the desultory is both delicious and as healthy as you make it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 06:53:45 No.257965 Report

Quoted By: >>257967

It's preserved food, of course it's gonna be high in sodium. Also fairly expensive on a $/calorie basis unless you buy in bulk. I have a bucket around that doubles as hiking supplies and emergency rations (I live in a high risk tectonic area and it never hurts to be prepared), when it gets low I just buy another one. I usually bring a couple of packets on a day hiking trip. I also keep a few in the car (again, never hurts to be prepared, especially when you're driving along backroads that get traffic of maybe 5 cars per week). Taste isn't half bad, not gourmet but what can you expect?

If you're going on a casual camping trip I wouldn't really recommend them at all, too expensive to be eating like that, better to just pack a cooler with more typical things like eggs and bacon, and carry dried goods like pancake mix. If you need to pack light, they're pretty decent when it comes to calories per kilogram of weight but then the sodium content becomes a bit more problematic, means you'll need extra water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 07:00:21 No.257967 Report

Quoted By:

>>257963
>>257965

Thanks for the replies.

Also, according to here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwifqHVtrTM

MH actually has 2-3 times the amt of sodium compared to other brands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 08:41:18 No.257987 Report

Quoted By: >>258634

Too expensive. Why not just make your own?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 09:34:40 No.257998 Report

Quoted By: >>259581

>>257960
I swear I had read exact same thread months ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:00:09 No.258045 Report

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>high in sodium
If you're drinking lots of water and sweating you want high sodium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:21:16 No.258049 Report

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mountain house is the mcdonalds tier of dehydrated food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:26:09 No.258052 Report

Quoted By: >>258061

>vistit the mountain house website
>they list entree's, breakfast, sides, desert etc
>click entree since i can't find main meals
>their entrees ARE their main meals
>mountain house describes their main meals as something you'd have before a main meal

wtf are they selling then, bags of snack shite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:34:43 No.258057 Report

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>>257960
>What is /out/'s opinion of Mountain House
I only would eat while it in a long term situation. like hiking more than 4 days. its disgusting fast food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:42:09 No.258061 Report

Quoted By: >>258069 >>258072 >>258073 >>258397

>>258052
i don't think you understand what an entree is. an entree is the main course, and can be combined with an appetizer, side or dessert if you would like to make a larger meal.

I like them OP. yes, they're high in sodium and fairly expensive, but they're easily available and taste pretty damn good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:53:18 No.258069 Report

Quoted By: >>258397

>>258061
He's probably francophone. In French, the "entrée" (literal translation: "entrance") is the appetizer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:56:19 No.258072 Report

Quoted By: >>258397 >>258462

>>258061
dat amerifat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2014 14:00:24 No.258073 Report

Quoted By: >>258397 >>258462 >>259592

>>258061
in anywhere other than fatsville an entree would not be a main course, that's why it's called an entree

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 02:45:26 No.258397 Report

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>>258072
>>258073
Seid brav, Kinder

>>258061
This guy is probably right: >>258069

>>257960
I am also curious about them, though being capable of cooking, I'll probably buy things separate for cheaper and whip dinner up the (slightly) harder way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 04:18:53 No.258433 Report

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I dont think its that good. For around the same price, you can order something else
http://www.packitgourmet.com/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 04:51:29 No.258449 Report

Quoted By: >>258456 >>258642

>>257960
>complaints that they're high in sodium.

Behold, the wonders of the internet!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 05:16:49 No.258456 Report

Quoted By: >>258642

>>258449
couldn't find the same thing but this is the entree with the most sodium by Wise Company

Savory Roasted Ground Beef
410mg Sodium
http://wisefoodstorage.com/60-serving-gourmet-freeze-dry-meat-supply.html

half and that is their product with most sodium
>Behold, the wonders of the internet!
Indeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 05:27:46 No.258462 Report

Quoted By: >>258517

>>258072
>>258073
>goes to an american company's website expecting francophone linguistics standards

the french

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 06:40:56 No.258484 Report

Quoted By: >>258591 >>259647

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 10:16:40 No.258517 Report

Quoted By: >>258539

>>258462
In literally every other country, entree means a small course before the main course. An example of an entree would be carpaccio. Before the entree you can have an appetizer/amuse-bouche.
There are many other courses, but I will not discuss them now, as that is not related to the discussion at hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 10:33:28 No.258521 Report

Quoted By: >>258650

>>257960
>sodium
http://authoritynutrition.com/how-much-sodium-per-day/
Also, you want high sodium when hiking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 11:21:40 No.258532 Report

Quoted By: >>258542

So what are some better alternatives to MH? Other than making your own

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 11:32:34 No.258539 Report

Quoted By: >>259595

>>258517
you're attempting to explain a logical concept to people that still use feet and inches while scoffing at the metric system employed by the rest of the world, put the month before the day when writing dates and who claim they are going to use the bath when wanting to use toilet facilities

don't expect MUH AMERIRETARDIZM to understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 11:39:26 No.258542 Report

Quoted By: >>259036

>>258532
MREs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 11:48:14 No.258544 Report

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>>257960
I thought it taste like shit.

Just my opinion, though.

I like MREs better. But MREs vary in quality depending on where you buy them. Prepare to spend over $100 per case for good shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 15:34:12 No.258591 Report

Quoted By: >>258597

>>258484
Holy fucking ew. How the hell is that thing prepared? Is it really a burger in a can?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 15:46:49 No.258597 Report

Quoted By: >>258602 >>259549

>>258591
Why not? Even canned bread is popular in Japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 15:52:40 No.258602 Report

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>>258597
>compare bread with meat.
duh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 17:23:39 No.258634 Report

Quoted By: >>258645

>>257963
> Look into buying a food dehydrator
>>257987
> Too expensive. Why not just make your own?

Hm. Can anybody elaborate on how one would go about starting to do something like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 17:42:13 No.258642 Report

Quoted By: >>259317

>>258449
>>258456
are you really this daft? look at the serving size for one, for mountain house it's half a pouch and for wise food it's a fourth. or better yet, look at the calories. for mountain house the sodium is 3.8 mg of sodium per calorie, while for wise food it's 4.1 mg of sodium per calorie.

if there's one thing this board is good for then it's spreading misinformation and stupid opinions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 17:55:24 No.258645 Report

Quoted By: >>258654 >>258874

>>258634
>buy dehydrator
>fill it with food
>dry for required amount of time
>package/preserve food

done

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 17:59:50 No.258650 Report

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>>258521
thanks for the good read

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2014 18:09:53 No.258654 Report

Quoted By: >>258662 >>258860 >>258992

>>258645
...fair enough, but I'm really clueless when it comes to this sort of thing. Would be interested in it though.

1) Are there special kinds that would be better for camping purposes, or would one of those $40, 50 ones from Amazon work?
2) Do you cook vegetables and meat first, or do you just put them in like you do with fruit?
3) What is best to package them in?
4) Do you heat it up later on or eat it as is?

666 firthrsakeofconvenience

666 firthrsakeofconvenience Tue 21 Jan 2014 18:34:31 No.258662 Report

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>>258654
It really is straightforward. Buy a dehydrator. If you want to do large batches, get a large dehydrator. Slice your food into thin slices. The thinner the slice, the quicker it will dry. Put fruit and jerky in a ziplock bag. Clean the trays after making jerky.
Super simple dude. Just google it.

AKnative

AKnative Tue 21 Jan 2014 23:44:48 No.258860 Report

Quoted By: >>258997

>>258654
check out this link, hope it's helpful
http://www.trailcooking.com/dehydrating-101/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 00:18:32 No.258874 Report

Quoted By: >>259265

>>258645
>why not just make your own?
>buy dehydrator
Somebody can't into reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 00:21:03 No.258877 Report

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>>257960
I like MH but I sweat a LOT (yes even before I gained 10 pounds of desk-job pudge).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 03:25:51 No.258992 Report

Quoted By: >>258997

>>258654
red alton browns article (episode manuscript) on making jerky. The lessons can be applied.

also, im pretty sure mountain house is freeze dried and not dehydrated, which is quite different

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 03:32:37 No.258997 Report

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>>258992
Thanks, I'll check it out.

>>258860
Oh wow, definitely some awesome stuff on the site, thanks a lot!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 03:40:52 No.258998 Report

Quoted By:

>>257960
>>why not just make your own?
>>buy dehydrator
>Somebody can't into reading comprehension
>>>
> Anonymous 01/21/14(Tue)19:21 UTC-5 No.258877

I've eaten a fuckton of mountain house! Love them! But Yes, they r expensive and high in sodium.
But after a long hike, there's nothing better than MH Beef Stroganoff while watching the sun set. It's beautiful.

MREs I don't like since the water weight is annoying to slog around with and they aren't particularly calorie dense (except for the lentil one that has around 480 calories inna bag)

Really depends what u want/need.
Low Costs: Nuts + Dehydrated Foods
No Effort: MRE
Best Taste: BBQ your own shit
Best Compromise: Mountain House.
Those are my own dumbass opinions of course...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 04:46:28 No.259027 Report

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So, just checking Google, some good stuff out there on freeze drying. Looks like you just cook the meal, place it in freezer bag, vacuum seal, and store it in the freezer. What I'm not finding is the information on how long it stays good for. If you do all that, and then take the bag out of the freezer and go camping, by when do you have to make it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 05:15:01 No.259036 Report

Quoted By: >>259308

>>258542
Enjoy not being able to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 05:37:45 No.259048 Report

Quoted By: >>259504

>>257960
Honestly, just bring regular ass commerical packaged food.

If you have the ability to cook and have reasonably clean water you can cook with, bags of lentils and rice are great.

For pure calories, bring jars of peanut butter.

MREs are complete garbage and they are bulky as fuck and produce endless amounts of trash you have to dispose of. There is never a good reason to buy these.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 17:22:14 No.259265 Report

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>>258874
>context of "making your own" was prepackaged meals
>context of "buy dehydrator" was use to make your own prepackaged meals

>>Somebody can't into reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 18:33:03 No.259308 Report

Quoted By:

>>259036
As regularly

People live off MREs (well the british ones at least) for upwards for 6 months.

Your gut works it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 18:40:52 No.259317 Report

Quoted By:

>>258642

Thank you for calling out his stupidity. I was about to have an aneurysm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2014 19:15:56 No.259331 Report

Quoted By:

>What is /out/'s opinion of Mountain House.

I usually keep a few bags of MH or Backpacker's pantry around for "just in case" purposes, but they're not my primary source of nutrition when /out/.

The sodium and calories aren't such an issue if you're mountaineering or doing extended backpacking, which is what they were developed for. But if I'm just going /out/ for the weekend I'll throw my own meals together, and toss one of these in the pack for back-up purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 00:31:34 No.259481 Report

Quoted By: >>259486 >>259489

Alright, this seems like the thread to ask:

I've seen the commercial packaged products (spam, chicken, whatever 'potted meat' is) and they seem reasonable enough. And of course there is always hard meats like summer sausage. Are these the best options out there for meat on the trail? I don't have a dehydrator, so what I'm seeing is its either I use the above mentioned, or I buy Mountain House or something similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 00:42:30 No.259486 Report

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>>259481
If you don't mind packing out the cans, then yeah that's all fine stuff to take.

Single serving packets of salmon and tuna are also pretty popular for backpacking as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 00:45:45 No.259489 Report

Quoted By: >>259492

>>259481
Kill a live animal and eat that dude. You don't have to bring meat with you. otherwise, yeah those probably are the best options for meat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 00:47:50 No.259492 Report

Quoted By: >>259495

>>259489
While viable some places, I'm planning a trip to Glacier NP, and the park service tends to frown upon that sadly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 00:52:27 No.259495 Report

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>>259492
You can fish in certain places in Glacier, but that's more gear that you have to bring with you.

My only real concern about canned meat would be the weight, but that's really up to you to decide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 01:11:34 No.259504 Report

Quoted By:

>>259048
Agreed. Too many people these days trying to skin a squirrel with a wooden spoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 01:21:33 No.259509 Report

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http://www.wildbackpacker.com/backpacking-food/recipes/

This site has some pretty good DIY backpacking recipes with a lot of stuff you can buy at the grocery store.

ThatFeelWhen !!kwScXBijBst

ThatFeelWhen !!kwScXBijBst Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:37:37 No.259544 Report

Quoted By: >>259548

>>257960
Oh god no. I thought I saw those for the last time 8 months ago. I have a story about those

>I bought these thinking that the light weight and flavor would be good, making my interior camping go smoothly.
>On the first night I had 2 whole packages of some spicy Mexican shit
>I don't handle spice too well, but I like it once and a while
>I realized how mushy, salty and spicy it was, but it tasted pretty good, and filled me up good
>All through the night I had cramps, and couldn't sleep properly
>In the morning I packed up all my shit, and had the spaghetti one, which was also salty/spicy as shit
>My cramps felt a bit better, so I decided to go on, because this was my expedition for the year
>3/4 of the way to the next campsite my cramps were becoming unbearable
>I decided at the bottom of the mountain I would take a shit
>I was also about 3/4 up the mountain as well
>My cramps got so bad my knees gave out while decending a steep 500m slope
>I fall and crash down the mountain, breaking my left hip, my collarbone, both my knees, both my ankles, my right wrist, a vertebra and both my shoulders
>By the time I stop rolling I am seriously injured, and can't move
>It took search and rescue 2 days to find me
>I couldn't move chest down because my vertebra was fucked up (thank god it was fixable though), but I had to live off of the rest of those fucking things, liquid shitting my pants, and when I ran out of water in my canteen I had to piss in my hand and drink it if I wanted to live
>The scene that the rescuers came to was gruesome, blood and shit everywhere, a vertebra sticking out of my back, and piss drooling from my mouth

Overall I would give it an 8/10, was a little to mushy, and tasted chemically

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:46:48 No.259548 Report

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>>259544

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:46:55 No.259549 Report

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>>258597
http://www.amazon.com/Brown-Bread-Original-Ounce-Cans/dp/B0025UCI94/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390445157&sr=8-1&keywords=b+m+brown+bread

you're welcome. also available at larger grocery stores.

this shit is some of the best camping food.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 03:48:09 No.259573 Report

Quoted By: >>259580

I'm surprised more people on /out/ don't talk about Bridgford shelf-stable sandwiches, they're basically back country hot pockets.

They're basically just lumps of z-grade meat, preservatives and salt so they're not actually very nutritious, but they're kind of awesome to have once in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:01:17 No.259580 Report

Quoted By: >>259583

>>259573
ugh that shit must rot your gut and embalm your liver *shudder*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:05:23 No.259581 Report

Quoted By:

>>257998
you have, probably more than once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:09:39 No.259583 Report

Quoted By: >>259587

>>259580
I eat them only once in a great while because I'm pretty sure if I ate more than two I'd get a terrible case of the shits.

They're more of a campfire novelty food than a backpacking staple. They also all kind of taste the same, no matter what "flavor" you get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:13:32 No.259587 Report

Quoted By: >>259601

>>259583
not gonna lie, i'm curious to try one of these bad boys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:17:21 No.259592 Report

Quoted By:

>>258073
wouldnt it be the other way around? if an entree is before the main meal, it stands to reason it would be smaller. therefore replacing the meal with the entree would be less food.

i mean shit, thats like, kindergarten level shit right there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:23:30 No.259595 Report

Quoted By:

>>258539
>who claim they are going to use the bath when wanting to use the toilet facilities
now im not sure if your nitpicking, or if you bathe in your own shit. unless you have separate rooms for your bath and toilet.

22 january, that just sounds fucking retarded to say out loud. as opposed to january 22nd, which i can say without feeling like im a fucking 2 year old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:33:10 No.259601 Report

Quoted By: >>259606

>>259587
Get a box and pass them around at your next camp out/bon fire/party. Make a game out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:40:39 No.259606 Report

Quoted By: >>259608

>>259601
i did a quick googley and apparently those Bridgeford dealies are the very sammiches that are packed into some MREs.

Might-do

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:42:54 No.259608 Report

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>>259606
if i see one, i will eat it and tell /out/ about it. i think it actually looks delicious.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:51:31 No.259610 Report

Quoted By: >>259612

Don't forget the canned bacon!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 04:54:05 No.259611 Report

Quoted By: >>259612 >>259624

Or a whole canned chicken!

That's a pretty misleading picture on the can.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 05:02:59 No.259612 Report

Quoted By:

>>259610
>>259611
don't forget pork paste!

(skip to 4:50)
http://youtu.be/MgKzdoA1EC0?t=4m50s

also brah, this guy ^ eats one of those chickens too... it's fucksgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 05:49:26 No.259624 Report

Quoted By: >>259631 >>259649

>>259611
I'm fucking tired of the hate on the canned chicken. That is just chicken stock, rich with gelatin from the skin and bones of the bird. Make a good chicken soup and it will do the same thing at room temp. Aint nothing wrong with canned chicken. If you are hungry it would be one of the better canned meat options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 06:12:06 No.259631 Report

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>>259624
yes it is chiggin and yes chiggin is food, but it's still a pretty unappetizing way to serve it up not gonna lie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzdaSq6BfU&feature=share

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 07:01:01 No.259647 Report

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>>258484

Probably still better than a mcshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 07:05:15 No.259649 Report

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>>259624

Yeah this, throw that shit in a pot with some veg, enjoy some tasty soup.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 07:15:47 No.259651 Report

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Scandinavian master race.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 10:53:56 No.259743 Report

Quoted By: >>259757

does anybody have any experience with legacy foods?

http://www.preparewise.com/best-value-food-storage.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 12:23:01 No.259757 Report

Quoted By: >>259819

>>259743
Why don't any of those have any main courses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 17:27:54 No.259819 Report

Quoted By:

>>259757
huehue

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding this or not: I've been looking up freeze drying. Some say it's fairly difficult, and that's why freeze dried foods tend to be expensive. On the other hand, it doesn't sound that hard to do from the articles I've read. Sounds like you cook the food, let it cool, spread it out in a tray and leave it in the freezer for a week (or longer depending on content), bag and vacuum seal it, and store in freezer until ready to go camping. Can anybody shed any insight on this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 17:34:09 No.259822 Report

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I dehydrate my meals in advance with a $20 dehydrator I got on kijiji. I don't know why anyone buys that shitty over priced prepackaged shit. I eat like a king.

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