>>2580704ultralighters tend to be long distance hikers focused on maximizing how many miles+hours they hike in a day and minimizing how long they spend at camp.
>>2580713ultralighters hike 2-3x as many miles per day as you would. your most intense hike of your life is average to me. i find that people who don't 'get it' tend to live in flat regions and moderate climates where nothing around you really necessitates gearfagging. fair enough.
>>2580850>It will depend greatly on your physical strength and physical fitness.true
but its not always a DYEL thing
i suffered a major spinal injury and i was told i'd never be able to carry a pack again. thanks to ultralight niggers, i can now mountain climb again, my doctor even approves. i'm an ancientfag. 20 years ago with the gear available i wouldn't have been able to. simple as.
also here's something you're not getting:
the first 10-20 pounds you drop, you don't lose out on any quality of life or even durability with your gear. the gear is all the same. it just costs more because you're buying titanium not steel and things like that. how much "performance" am i really missing out on because my spoon isn't steel?
you're weighing the conversation like there is some inherent advantage or benefit to heavier gear. that's just flat out wrong. there's cases where its definitely true but certainly not always. its very easy to drop weight without missing a single thing.
i bet i can shave 5-10 pounds off your pack just by meal planning better and teaching you how to read nutrition labels. and you'll eat better, more refreshing and energizing foods than you did before.
the retardation is when people keep trying to push it farther and sacrifice QOL massively to shave fractions of a gram.
much like anything, with ultralight, don't go full retard.
if you have a sane mentality about ultralight, the only argument that can be made against it is that the gear is too expensive for some people. fair enough.
