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Just learned about these and have spent the last hour reading about them

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 15:48:03 No.2612559 View View Reply Original Report

How the fuck are these not considered Seas or Oceans? Some say they're big enough to be an ocean if you combine them.

Any Americans live near them and want to explain what they're like? Seem pretty creepy.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 15:53:10 No.2612562 Report

Quoted By: >>2612571

They’re fresh water not salt water

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 15:53:51 No.2612563 Report

Quoted By: >>2612759

>>2612559
Kitchigoomie never gives up its dead.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 16:18:57 No.2612571 Report

Quoted By: >>2612589 >>2613117

>>2612562
So?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 16:39:47 No.2612580 Report

Quoted By: >>2612587 >>2612590 >>2612793 >>2626464

>>2612559
I live on them. They are awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 16:56:02 No.2612587 Report

Quoted By: >>2612590

>>2612580
No it's not IT IS TERRIBLE HERE whatever you do never ever come to the great lake region

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 16:57:37 No.2612589 Report

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>>2612571
They also don't fit the definition of ocean or sea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:00:07 No.2612590 Report

Quoted By: >>2612595 >>2612808

>>2612559
>>2612580
>>2612587
Isn‘t chicago (nigger HQ) right there? I‘d sooner go literally anywhere else than breathe the same air as crackhead mutt coons.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:08:38 No.2612595 Report

Quoted By: >>2612756 >>2627136

>>2612590
Superior is the only ethnostate lake. Yet another reason why it is superior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:10:02 No.2612596 Report

Quoted By: >>2612599

>>2612559
They're inland and not salty, also Seas and Oceans are human made concepts and not strictly defined

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:16:34 No.2612599 Report

Quoted By: >>2612602 >>2612611 >>2613229 >>2614910

>>2612596
>are human made concepts and not strictly defined
Like literally everything kek. What a midwit plebbit answer.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:19:00 No.2612602 Report

Quoted By: >>2612605 >>2612609

>>2612599
languagelet dumbfuck, if you knew any language other than English you'd know exactly what I'm talking about

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:22:40 No.2612605 Report

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>>2612602
English is the only relevant language, that's why we're using it right now.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:27:20 No.2612609 Report

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>>2612602
Be quiet retard, you were referring to Sassure's concept of signifié and signifiant, not any difference between languages. I am German and perfectly aware that "See" means "lake" in German, but you were talking about the arbitrariness of the names of things, which is not the same thing.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:27:39 No.2612611 Report

Quoted By: >>2612614

>>2612599
You’re an autist if you think everything in the world must match strict definitions. If you can’t grasp the basic concept that the world isn’t as strictly defined as you’d like that makes you objectively dumber than “midwit plebbit”

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:30:48 No.2612614 Report

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>>2612611
Midwit seethe, I bet you don't believe in race and eugenics either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:37:04 No.2612615 Report

Quoted By: >>2613193

>>2612559
The coasties never understand how big they are without seeing them. They are always amazed you can't see across them.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 17:55:40 No.2612625 Report

Quoted By: >>2612713 >>2612815 >>2614911

>>2612559
Look into blue hell michigan. There is allegedly a portal to hell by the upper peninsula from which strange entities come out such as "dogmen." The natives believed god lived on that island.

Many ships which have sunk out there have been later witnessed as ghosts. The SS Edmund Fitzgerald was 100 feet shy of the titanic when it sunk in the 70s, but none of the 29 bodies were ever recovered. According to legend, you can sometimes see the ship's ghost trying to reach the final destination. There are quite a few other ghost ships in the great lakes.

Another interesting thing about the great lakes region is that the upper midwest is filled with an unbelievably high frequency of lakes. When I lived in the suburbs Minneapolis, there was a lake you could drive to every five minutes and some of them even had beaches or could be fished at. Wisconsin technically has more lakes, but only because they classify a lake as something much smaller. A lot of the lakes have repeated names or aren't named at all. I think some lakes are just given names like lake A, lake B, etc.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 19:05:29 No.2612665 Report

Quoted By: >>2612808

>>2612559
>often looks like ocean
>is not ocean
t.lives on lake michigan in WI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 20:03:07 No.2612706 Report

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>>2612559
They are lakes. Sea is an overused term. The Sea of Galilee should be called the Lake of Galilee. In fact, it is often called Lake Tiberias in Israel. The Dead Sea is also a lake, not a sea. The same is the case for the Caspian and Aral "seas".
I lived a few miles away from Lake Michigan and swam in it a few times. It's not at all creepy or scary. It provides an incredible microclimate.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 20:11:21 No.2612713 Report

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>>2612625
>Many ships which have sunk out there have been later witnessed as ghosts.
Someone said to someone else, for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 20:19:50 No.2612723 Report

Quoted By: >>2612813 >>2613019 >>2626203

>>2612559
Do they have a tide?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 20:47:35 No.2612743 Report

Quoted By: >>2614937

The Bras d'Or is salty, has tides and is connected to the ocean but is still classified as a lake. They just make this shit up really.

I love the great lakes myself, each one has a different character. Superior is surrounded by the most rugged beauty and can whip up some impressive waves, so it's my favourite. The only thing that really sucks is lake effect snow and rain, if you live windward of them expect to get dumped on regularly.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 20:57:46 No.2612752 Report

Quoted By: >>2612755

There are thousands shipwrecks, most undiscovered, at the bottom of the lakes, mostly fouled in bad weather which can come on very quickly. The passenger ship Lady Elgin was the largest loss of life with almost 400 lost, but the Edmund Fitzgerald is probably the most famous wreck thanks to Gordon Lightfoot.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 21:01:05 No.2612755 Report

Quoted By: >>2612836

>>2612752
*thousands of shipwrecks

>Although Captain Peter Pulcer was in command of Edmund Fitzgerald on trips when cargo records were set, "he is best remembered ... for piping music day or night over the ship's intercom system" while passing through the St. Clair and Detroit Rivers.[4] While navigating the Soo Locks he would often come out of the pilothouse and use a bullhorn to entertain tourists with a commentary on details about Edmund Fitzgerald.[4]

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 21:02:25 No.2612756 Report

Quoted By: >>2612793 >>2620434

>>2612595
Yes Superior is the biggest shithole of the Great Shitholes that goes double for the north shore just don’t even bother. For example Detroit is on Erie and we all know how bad it is and everything around it. Well Duluth for example is worse and it gets worse north from there.
Basically you are wading through garbage all the way to Thunder Bay.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 21:07:22 No.2612759 Report

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>>2612563
When the gales of November come early

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 22:02:19 No.2612793 Report

Quoted By: >>2619068

>>2612756
Yeah this, stay away
>>2612580
I regret this post, these lakes are the worst, Michigan is terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 22:37:04 No.2612804 Report

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>>2612559
I was near and on those lakes until I was 19. Was crew on a boat for 51 days, sailed from Green Bay to Cleveland OH. Georgean Bay, ON, the whole bit. Took a motorcycle across L. Michigan on the SS Badger. Spent a lot of time in Door County. They are deep and cold. They can get rough or flat as glass. Not so keen on eating salmon now from these lakes, salt water ecosystems make for more robust fish.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 22:47:19 No.2612808 Report

Quoted By: >>2618995

>>2612590
>>2612665
I have never seen big rolling swells on any greatlakes like you have on oceans. 600-1000 feet deep max. You can have big waves but they are closer and certainly enough to swamp or wreck a boat, even a big one. I did my longest stint on a 42 foot grand banks trawler as the pilot and engine man at 16.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 22:54:29 No.2612813 Report

Quoted By: >>2614914 >>2614931 >>2619012

>>2612723
No tide. Green bay freezes and you can drive your car on it and get drunk in a ice fishing hut on cheap schnaps because you have no class and then go home and beat the wife becasue the Packers lost in the playoffs again, but she weighs 150 lbs more than you and after she wakes up, she mops the floor with you while her boyfriend Jamal laughs and lights up a port.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 22:59:02 No.2612814 Report

Quoted By: >>2612951 >>2612958 >>2619010

Anyone here like smoked chubs? How do you cook your salmon? Did you ever date a girl with a name like Lundquist, or Jensen?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 22:59:06 No.2612815 Report

Quoted By: >>2612818 >>2612847

>>2612559
I'm from the coast and went to Lake Erie a few years ago. What suprised me the most was that it smelled the same as the ocean does despite the lack of salt. Guess it might be the rotting fish and plants.
>>2612625
>Another interesting thing about the great lakes region is that the upper midwest is filled with an unbelievably high frequency of lakes
That's because of glaciers. Big chunks of ice got lodged in the ground and when they melted it left lakes and ponds behind.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 23:01:54 No.2612818 Report

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>>2612815
We get these fish about 5 inches long, come in from the ocean via the st lawence or some shit, then die. Usually april. Oh gowd is that awful. Alewives or something. We also threw nets for smelt.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 23:28:41 No.2612836 Report

Quoted By: >>2620188

>>2612755
>While navigating the Soo Locks he would often come out of the pilothouse and use a bullhorn to entertain tourists with a commentary on details about Edmund Fitzgerald
"hey you! check this ship out" what a beauty...

kingston ontario reporting in https://youtu.be/Y8LBkYjniTU

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 23:51:41 No.2612845 Report

Quoted By: >>2612970

According to records the highest waves on the lakes were around 15-20ft, but Superior has recorded almost 30ft waves. The largest wave on the Atlantic was something like 60ft, so not really that close but more than enough to sink vessels.

Erie is an interesting one as well since it's very shallow it can get very choppy in high winds and push water mass all the way into the Buffalo area where it causes flooding. I think that last happened a year or two ago.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2023 23:56:07 No.2612847 Report

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>>2612815
The Canadian Shield is also important in the development of all those lakes (there are millions of them within Canada). The bedrock is basically at the surface across a huge portion of the continent, so the water has nowhere to go. It's actually called a 'deranged drainage system' which is a funny term.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 02:55:13 No.2612951 Report

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>>2612814
delet this

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 02:57:03 No.2612953 Report

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smells like fish I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 03:13:14 No.2612958 Report

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>>2612814
>dat special smell that Wisconsin and Michigan girls have during the long winters
Woof

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 03:32:57 No.2612970 Report

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>>2612845
The highest sustained waves or storm surge in the Caspian sea for comparison is about 27ft, the average max is closer to 4-5 ft sustained and storm surges up to 8ft. Making it actually more mild than Lake Superior. Compared with full on oceans though, they can't compete, obviously. With the Atlantic occasionally putting out 80-100ft waves in Portugal, and the Pacific regularly putting out the highest average waves in the world in multiple locations, between 50-100 ft. Both the Atlantic and Pacific are also known for 100ft rogue waves in deep water, the eastern Pacific has multiple danger zones as well such as the graveyard of the Pacific, the opening the San Francisco bay, a smaller zone off Santa Barbara, and most of Alaska. While in the western Atlantic there is the graveyard of the Atlantic off of NC, and several other spots off of New England and Nova Scotia. While despite being much smaller in area, the great lakes (specifically Erie) have a comparable amount of ship wrecks to some of those ocean graveyards. This might be due to different ship designs however, with lake ships generally being much thinner and less storm worthy than their ocean counterparts.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 07:12:59 No.2613019 Report

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>>2612723
Lake superior has a tide, but it's only like 4 inches.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 10:44:41 No.2613072 Report

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>I just learnt about them
>They seem so creepy

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 12:31:27 No.2613117 Report

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>>2612571
>So?
Only salt water is considered sea/ocean.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 15:17:48 No.2613190 Report

Quoted By: >>2613201 >>2614615

See in German means lake.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 15:25:45 No.2613193 Report

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>>2612615
New York State W once again

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 15:50:02 No.2613201 Report

Quoted By: >>2613203 >>2613206 >>2614615

>>2613190
Deutsch and Old English switched words for it. Sea in OE mostly means ocean (garsecg) or salty water, while mere/meer in OE mostly means a lake or pool. While in German it became the opposite, with see (sea) mostly meaning lake or pool and meer (ocean) mostly meaning sea.

In OE (Old English)
mere - lake, pool (not to be conflated with maere - "boundary" or amerian - "purify", all of these are Germanish, none of them are from latin), akin to OHG meer.
sea - (usually) salty body of water, ocean
garsecg - ocean, literally spearman/spear sedge
ea/ae - river, more flow than a stream usually

OHG (Old High German/Deutsch)
meer - sea/ocean, now rarely lake or pond
see - lake or pond, smaller body of water, originally same as OE others meaning sea/ocean (the Deutsch just applied it to smaller and smaller bodies of water over time)

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 15:59:11 No.2613203 Report

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>>2613201
Oh and as another example of this, in Dutch (another low German tongue like OE) meer also means lake like it did in OE, and it is now rarely if ever used to mean sea/ocean.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 16:05:57 No.2613206 Report

Quoted By: >>2613212

>>2613201
Meer in German also wouldn't really be used synonymously with Ocean/Ozean. It moreso denotes smaller bodies of water, like the Mediterranean or the Black/Red/Dead Sea. For the Atlanatic and Pacific Oceans, you wouldn't see "Pazifisches Meer", but "Pazifik" or "Pazifischer Ozean". "Weltmeere" on the other hand describes all the Oceans. And the Baltic Sea or North Sea are Ost- and Nordsee respectively, despite being seas in the English sense.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 16:15:00 No.2613212 Report

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>>2613206
In the case of ostsee/nordsee those are conflations of its original meaning. As I mentioned it appears in Deutsch that see (originally meant the same thing as it now does in English and Dutch and Low German), was gradually applied to smaller and smaller bodies of water until it swapped places with the older meaning of meer and became conflated. Ocean came from Greek through Latin. Pool, lake, meer/mere, see/sea, and garsecg are all the Germanish forms.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 16:50:50 No.2613229 Report

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>>2612599
Based midwit mocker
Ocean has been well defined for thousands of years--the divide between oceans and seas and where one ocean/sea begins and another ends is a different story though.
...Regardless, if it doesn't have salt water it cant be an Ocean or a Sea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jul 2023 04:30:54 No.2614075 Report

Quoted By: >>2614631 >>2620462

>>2612559
I live in western Wisconsin I've been to many cities on the bellend of Lake Michigan, like Milwaukee, Chicago, Kenosha, and Gary, as well as Detroit

To me, there are a few things that stand out about the Great Lakes. I've never been to an ocean so looking out to Lake Michigan has allowed me to kind of imagine what the ocean coast is like without traveling there.

As a kid, the Great Lakes were always at the top of the map, with Canada barely shown or omitted entirely. So it always felt like the Great Lakes were the northern wilderness, the final border into a great, unknown, far away place all the way to the north pole. As an adult, I know that the Great Lakes are almost just the middle of the continent with a lot of land that is very much explored and urbanized even.

I flew directly over Lake Michigan once when flying to DC. Again it simulates the experience of the middle of the ocean, feeling like there could be no land for a thousand miles. But Michigan came into view soon enough.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 02:30:55 No.2614603 Report

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I hope that the great lakes swarm up and swallow all those damn creatures that try to call themselves humans that live near them. May it swallow them into the Frozen Abyss where their useless corpse can feed the fish and give something back.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 03:23:37 No.2614615 Report

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>>2613190
>>2613201
der See - lake
die See - sea

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 04:00:07 No.2614626 Report

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>>2612559
>want to explain what they're like?
Grew up on lake Michigan, and I didn't see the proper ocean (Atlantic) until I was 19. Having lived near both I can't say that they're wildly different. Depending on where you are on the ocean, you may have major seaports and get a lot of freighter traffic. On the great lakes, at least where I was, it's pretty uncommon to see a giant cargo ship. Its calmer i guess, ive seen some super choppy water but nowhere nearly as rediculpus as you get in the sea. And I guess the water doesn't taste as awful when you get it in your mouth. That's about it.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 04:08:23 No.2614631 Report

Quoted By: >>2620462

>>2614075
>As a kid, the Great Lakes were always at the top of the map, with Canada barely shown or omitted entirely. So it always felt like the Great Lakes were the northern wilderness, the final border into a great, unknown, far away place all the way to the north pole.
Damn. I never really realized until you wrote that but I had the same unconscious perception when i was growing up

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 16:51:04 No.2614910 Report

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>>2612599
>Very large lake
Suffice?

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 16:54:30 No.2614911 Report

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>>2612625
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOUYpp9ECM&ab_channel=DeadRabbitRadio
Finally, some good /x/ material to sink my teeth into. God knows /x/ itself isn't capable of providing it.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 16:57:15 No.2614914 Report

Quoted By: >>2614931

>>2612813
Thank you for that beautiful recreation of a story in my head.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 17:26:43 No.2614931 Report

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>>2614914
>>2612813
It was funny until the cuckholdry came into play

It's funnier if the wife just beats the husband up and everything goes back to normal and they do it again next weekend

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 17:33:49 No.2614937 Report

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>>2612743

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 18:59:26 No.2615006 Report

Quoted By: >>2622559

Went to visit my brother in Neenah, Wisconsin. Lake Winnebago is connected to Lake Michigan and its fucking beautiful. The crime rate is stupidly low from the capital of Kansas here. We went to 3rd Ward Market in Milwaukee and they got fucking live Catfish, Crabs, Lobster and about everything you can think of.

Also there's a partying neighborhood called 3rd or 8th district? All they fucking do is party year around. The food is insane too.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2023 12:38:58 No.2616968 Report

Quoted By: >>2617228 >>2618836

>>2612559
... what's living in there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2023 23:02:20 No.2617228 Report

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>>2616968
Zebra mussels and carp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2023 01:12:38 No.2617261 Report

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>>2612559
>Just learned about these
Finally decided to start paying attention in summer school? thats great champ! I bet youre going to enjoy high school.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 03:03:37 No.2618319 Report

Quoted By: >>2618826

>>2612559
I really want to go to a Wisconsin supper club. Have never been to the middle coast except Indiana but it was just flat and gray.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:46:20 No.2618527 Report

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>>2612559
I am literally posting from one right now, on my boat. It's just a giant lake. The waves are smaller than a sea or ocean. The water is freshwater, not saltwater. It gets extremely choppy in the winter, but other than that it's just a pleasant large body of water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:51:51 No.2618531 Report

Quoted By: >>2618908

>>2612559
They're awesome. Northern Michigan is like a paradise. Boating, hiking, fishing in the summer, snowmobiles, hunting, and snowboarding in the winter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 01:10:43 No.2618826 Report

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>>2618319
What's the appeal of these

I live in Wisconsin and have been to a few supper clubs, they just seem like they are normal restaurants sometimes (not always) located in scenic spots

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 01:37:55 No.2618836 Report

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>>2616968
I caught so many Salmon in Lake MI and so many Walleye in the St Clair River

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 04:51:44 No.2618908 Report

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>>2618531
This guy is lying to you, it’s a wasteland.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 09:50:16 No.2618995 Report

Quoted By: >>2627113

>>2612808
I almost died on Lake St Clair when I was a kid on my grandpas houseboat (48ft)

A storm came in and we were swirling, upon bringing the boat into the marina eventually, my grandpa was coming in so hot and fast he ended up biting his toungue off

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 09:58:47 No.2619000 Report

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>>2612559
They’re essentially large freshwater seas. I live near the southern port of Lake Huron and our 2nd property is up N of the LP on the East side also on Huron.

>HOMES is how you remember them
>Huron: probably the most boring, some big fish especially Saginaw Bay in the Thumg area
>Ontario: Toronto is overlooking it. I honestly kind of ignore Ontario as it’s the only one not directly touching Michigan
>Michigan. Obviously Chicago is on the southern tip. Best fishing, best beaches, most tourist towns. Golf courses etc
>Erie: Shittiest Great Lake, outside of Putin Bay and Cedar Point it’s probably the most used for shipping because it connects Cleveland to Detroit
>Superior: cold as fucking shit but the NW corner has Duluth and that connects to the Mississippi River. I’ve only been there a few times. I will say Northern MI/UP is awesome but there is a certain time of year to go when the bugs are at bay. If you go at the wrong time in the summer UP bugs will eat you alive

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 10:56:22 No.2619010 Report

Quoted By: >>2626762 >>2626810

>>2612814
Salmon is best cooked on the smoker on a Cedar plank with Montreal steak seasoning and honey. Usually with Zuchini or Squash as a side with some diced onions or garlic mixed in, topped with shredded Parma Sean cheese.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 10:58:39 No.2619012 Report

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>>2612813
You’re describing my childhood perfectly as I had an alcoholic dad who worked in the trades and was a twink and my mother was a massive hippo who ended up having a baby with a black guy after the divorce. His name was Tim but my step brothers name is Melvin

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 11:36:00 No.2619023 Report

Quoted By: >>2619065 >>2619077

>>2612559
All of the flyover state retards saying this place sucks cuz they don’t want you coming is too funny. No one goes to where you live ever, why would you shit on someone who is genuinely interested in the place? You’re trying to protect the UP? We all know it exists and no one cares, you’re not NY or CA stop pretending.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 13:52:26 No.2619065 Report

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>>2619023
>you’re not NY or CA
That is exactly why. We don't want those people coming here.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 14:01:09 No.2619068 Report

Quoted By: >>2619078

>>2612793
I happen to like Michigan, and is an underrated /out/ state

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 14:12:04 No.2619077 Report

Quoted By: >>2619090

>>2619023
Most people know every state exists but think America is just one giant monolith and every town has a dollar general and McDonald’s and a gas station and doesn’t understand that there are multiple different types of landscapes, outdoors life, things to do, and uniqueness with most of the regions. I love northern Michigan the way it is. Even has a different vibe than the upper LP. We jokingly say don’t come here because we like it the way it is. Look at what’s happening to Bozeman, MT, LA, and Dearborn MI. Totally different than 25 years ago because outsiders moved in.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 14:13:05 No.2619078 Report

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>>2619068
Avoid Detroit area and touristy Up N spots and Michigan is beautiful.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 14:23:24 No.2619090 Report

Quoted By: >>2619097

>>2619077
Dearborn MI has been the same for the past 25 years. We are in the year 2023 right now. I think you are confusing it with 50 years ago.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 14:31:25 No.2619097 Report

Quoted By: >>2619145 >>2619181

>>2619090
No way Mosques everywhere now and nobody cruising the cars they souped up down the strip anymore. The outdoor scene (if they even have one ) remains the same but the point is people like their area the way it is, unless they vote democrat in which case they’re just welcoming immigrants who don’t adapt to social cultures and norms-worse off when you import too many at once their culture takes over like it did LA (that’s why there is Mexican tent cities everywhere now and they have a poop patrol)

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 15:43:53 No.2619145 Report

Quoted By: >>2619148

>>2619097
>Mosques everywhere now and nobody cruising the cars they souped up down the strip anymore
That's not new, anon. Source: I've lived here for over 23 years.
>in which case they’re just welcoming immigrants
The entire southeast Michigan area has been an area of immigrants for the past 80 years and then some. Ever heard of Highland Park? Novi? Detroit? Massive East European population? Cmon anon, at least try and don't just regurgitate what /pol/ tells you.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 15:51:56 No.2619148 Report

Quoted By: >>2619156 >>2620234

>>2619145
>Starts talking about where he lives instead of arguing his point

You can tell you're from Dearborn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 16:13:59 No.2619156 Report

Quoted By:

>>2619148
>instead of arguing his point
I'm sorry you don't have reading comprehension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2023 17:12:18 No.2619181 Report

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>>2619097
1) Mosques are only common in high muslim areas. If you're out of those parts of the city, they are no more common than eastern orthodox churchs.
2) >no souped up cars
Are you nuts? The niggers in Detroit have picked up that baton HARD. The muscle cars are loud. The bikes are loud. They race on the freeway. They even made the news for doing donuts on I94 a year or two ago.
Things change, but the immigrant areas stay in the city. I wish Hamtramck stayed more Polish, but as the second and third generations get more and more american, they move out of the "melting pot" and they're just Americans at that point.
We'll never be LA because our winters kill off the ones that are too obstinate to go inside. If our winters keep getting warmer... then we'll have more poo problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 14:19:22 No.2620188 Report

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>>2612836
>kingston ontario
My man
Going to the pier later. Swimming’s been nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 16:01:13 No.2620234 Report

Quoted By:

>>2619148
Hezbollah High represent.
Christ I’m glad I left, but I sure do miss the food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 17:26:07 No.2620279 Report

Quoted By: >>2626804

if you want to read something really cool, read the stories of the massive shipwrecks on the lakes. transiting them can be basically equivalent in difficulty to oceans during heavy storms, or more

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 18:16:50 No.2620308 Report

Quoted By:

Future battlegrounds if all the fresh water starts running low

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 22:27:37 No.2620427 Report

Quoted By: >>2620431

Standing on the shore, it's no different from looking at the ocean. Very different to swim in, however, owing to the freshwater.

Coincidentally, I'm going to camp at Sleeping Dunes National Lakeshore this weekend. You should google that place, OP. It's pretty cool. Lots of big sand dunes.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 22:34:42 No.2620431 Report

Quoted By: >>2620445

>>2620427
There's something really uncanny about temperate forests that suddenly have sand dunes around them. Mind posting pics when you come back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 22:37:40 No.2620434 Report

Quoted By: >>2625972

>>2612756
Duluth is comfy.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:24:20 No.2620445 Report

Quoted By: >>2620449

>>2620431
Will do. In the meantime, here's one from the Indiana Dunes. Mt. Baldy, a "living dune" which keeps inching further south, eating up the trees, park buildings, and everything else in its path.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:29:51 No.2620449 Report

Quoted By: >>2620455

>>2620445

And another from elsewhere in the park, where the dunes are more clothed with vegetation.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:39:03 No.2620455 Report

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>>2620449
And here's one of Lake Michigan for you, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:39:45 No.2620456 Report

Quoted By: >>2620458

Will they ever be clean and viable again?
Will we ever get to what's hidden in them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:44:07 No.2620458 Report

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>>2620456
Define clean and viable. You can already swim in and eat fish from them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:47:33 No.2620462 Report

Quoted By:

>>2614631
>>2614075
Parts of Lake Superior and Georgian Bay are still north enough to have lots of untouched wilderness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 14:55:23 No.2620799 Report

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>>2612559
living on the coast of one definitely feels like living on the coast of the ocean - can't see the other side.
lol flat earthers btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 15:08:13 No.2620809 Report

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I wanted to permanently move to Michigan and things were looking up, then they elected Stretchin' and the state took a hard left with gun bans and leftoid shit now it's Illinois tier. Now your *only* option for a non-leftoid state on the Great Lakes is Ohio, but Erie fucking blows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jul 2023 01:42:28 No.2622559 Report

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>>2615006
Lake Winnebago is kinda disgusting, it’s massive and doesn’t get much deeper than 10 feet. By late summer it can be pretty nasty. The best lakes in wisconsin are farther north.

Milwaukee does know how to party though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2023 00:56:38 No.2623819 Report

Quoted By:

>>2612559
There's a monster in there somewhere, mark my words

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 14:54:50 No.2625972 Report

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>>2620434
No Duluth is stupid. It is basically Wisconsin with worse cheese, graffiti everywhere, ship horns blowing all the time, people getting robbed in the street.
Almost all of Duluth is crammed between the base of a big hill ad the shore of the lake. Hill is so steep you can't even drive up it you have to drive way around. There is like a few roads, a few shitty restaurants, like 7 fish smokehouses, and a Duluth Trading. That is it.

Basically stay away from Duluth don't go there it sucks heavy ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 20:52:17 No.2626177 Report

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Lived in Michigan my whole life, visited the UP multiple times per year growing up, and then most recently lived in the UP for about 10 years. If you can afford to buy your own land and have a family, the UP is your last stop in life. It is great for independent outdoors DIY type people. For regular losers with no transferrable skills, never go to the UP. Even the big cities are unlivable now, let alone the middle of nowheres with literally nothing going for them except tourism. The biggest cities are being bought out by rich real estate vampires so the poor people (most yoopers) can't afford to live in them anymore. Downstate is not too far off from the rest of the midwest. If there is a city by the water, it is expensive to live in and tourist hell. My advice for Michigan for regular losers who might consider moving there, is near Grand Rapids. I have lived all around the lower half of the lower peninsula, and Grand Rapids area seemed the most diverse in terms of different places to live and work, and has everything you would want in the modern citylife world, I actually kind of miss it there. West coast was tourist bible belt hell, Battle Creek and surrounding was basically just depressing. Detroit and surrounding is not even worth considering.
But Wisconsin still seems better than downstate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 21:50:30 No.2626203 Report

Quoted By: >>2626816

>>2612723
Live on the lakeshore of Ontario and it has a tide, but it’s hardly noticeable

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Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 22:30:49 No.2626216 Report

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Has anyone seen/met Champ yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 06:34:31 No.2626464 Report

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>>2612580
Fuck you faggot. It's filled with niggers and sharks. Stay away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 08:54:54 No.2626478 Report

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When you drive from Southeast Alaska to the rest of Alaska you drive past Lake Kluana and it's like 50 miles long. It is by no means the longest lake and I am no way claiming that but you're just driving along and for one solid hour there is a lake right out your window.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 16:32:21 No.2626645 Report

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Great lakes are big.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Aug 2023 03:22:13 No.2626762 Report

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>>2619010
I use Maple Syrup instead of honey also your marinade needs some acid in it, I use lemon juice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Aug 2023 05:50:49 No.2626804 Report

Quoted By: >>2626807

>>2620279

>transiting them can be basically equivalent in difficulty to oceans during heavy storms, or more

It's actually far worse than the ocean. Sailors in the 1800s and early 1900s used to swear that Lake Superior was the most deadly body of water in the world. The reasons being that the weather was far more unpredictable, there are large stretches with no natural harbors to ride out storms, winter arrives very early (early November), and the extreme concentration of iron in the rocks make compasses unreliable. They call Superior "the graveyard of the Great Lakes".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Aug 2023 06:06:49 No.2626807 Report

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>>2626804
Worst in the world is probably Cape Horn

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Anonymous Sun 06 Aug 2023 06:27:03 No.2626810 Report

Quoted By:

>>2619010
>cooking salmon on a cedar plank

Absolute fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Aug 2023 07:23:05 No.2626816 Report

Quoted By:

>>2626203
>it has a tide, but it’s hardly noticeable
Then who cares?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Aug 2023 18:01:07 No.2626981 Report

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WHAT'S HIDING AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL OF THEM?

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Anonymous Sun 06 Aug 2023 23:45:00 No.2627113 Report

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>>2618995
>I almost died on Lake St Clair

It's like 4' deep!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Aug 2023 00:28:53 No.2627128 Report

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>Want to explain what they're like
The locals don't really interact with them much unless you have a boat, which most people don't have.
Down in olcott (Lake ontario) you can go swimming in the disgusting lake water if you want, they have a little beach. The water always stinks, sometimes there's algae, I would never swim in there. They have nice fireworks at the 4th of july.
One of the lakes (can't remember which one) always looks really calm with clear blue water but it's so shallow and wide that any storm at all whips up huge waves and the storms blow in fast, and on top of that there's massive undercurrents. Once you drown in the lake your body is pulled under and never comes back up, and a lot of people drown there.

Also we just call it "the lake" or "olcott" here because we only go to one of them, the only important one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Aug 2023 00:38:37 No.2627136 Report

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>>2612595
Lake Superior never gives up her dead

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