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Verticillium and Fusarium

Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 00:59:01 No.2614564 View View Reply Original Report

Do you know of any fungicides that will kill verticillium and fusarium in soil? Not outdoor, growing in pots indoor but the spores are evidently in the area. Ive read Actinovate does but Im sure there's something even just a little less steep on cost out there.
>inb4 here i googled that for you
Experienced answers only please. I know how to use search engines and Ive been digging around. I see lots of options for fusarium but hardly anything for verticillium. A lot of sources say nothing kills verticillium but the research on Actinovate indicates otherwise. I know Actinovate makes a 50$ bag but its out of stock everywhere available to my area.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 07:30:00 No.2614703 Report

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....well shit. K, TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: If youre a gardner, outdoor or even indoor, and after a long time of good luck and doing everything right: maybe you move to a new area, maybe you get some used soil to recycle from a friend, maybe no notable changes at all even, suddenly many of your plants grow really slow, leaves appear to have a nutrient issue, stems lose their green and become hard and woody, eventually not even mid way through the plants life cycle its completely halted leaves burning up with some curl, slowly becoming more and more golden before they all crunch off completely leaving a hard woody mass of small branches... Youve checked your pH, youve been careful and diligent with your nutrients, youve checked for mites, youve tried making adjustments with controls, tried starting over.. What could this nightmarish plague possibly be? Thats either Fusarium or Verticillium. They both have these sinister effect. Theyre soil borne plant diseases. Doesnt matter what you do, even pasteurization of bagged soil cant save you no matter how many times you start over. No matter how much you disinfect your grow area.. if you get this god awful shit you HAVE to use a very specific type of biofungicide to kill it and even then you cannot reverse the damage. Killing it in the soil can only help prevent it in the next round, even then, if youve had it once, then the spores are in youre area, you have to regularly keep applying said specialized biofungicide. From what Ive read, even then, theres still a chance that it wont save you. This cursed shit can come from the soil outside, even if youre not using said soil or planting close to it, the wind can carry the spores, bugs like gnats can carry the spores, even you can spread them if they get on your clothes or unwashed hands. I pray that God forbid none of you ever have to deal with the years of pain and heartbreak and financial loss Ive faced dealing with this nightmare.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 07:46:52 No.2614708 Report

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...Seriously I lost 2 years of my time battling this shit not knowing what it was. I take responsibility but the fucking saddest part to me is that I dealt with countless arrogant wannabe garden-master douche bags that would DEMAND that they knew exactly what the issue was, blame me for lack of care/knowledge/experience whatever, tell me some wrong bullshit solution that I had to do because they arrogantly believed they knew everything, Id be humble and follow their instructions to no avail, and when their instructions fail theyd turn right around and act as if I did something wrong by following their instructions, against my own skepticism and apparent greater attention to care, knowledge, and experience. Humiliating me with more failure just for them to tuck their tails and run--- alll those people and not ONE of them even said one fucking thing about any sort of plant disease. Nothing but
>bro that plants hungry it needs more food
>your ph is wrong you need to adjust your ph right now
>its just overwatered
>its just underwatered
>bro thats mights- you looked with microscope and didnt see any? i dont care bro thats mites
I dont know if Ill ever be able to take garden advice seriously from anyone ever again. I feel like I gave people things to fix by their request, they break it even worse, give it back to me and say "bro it was messed up but now you ruined it haha". I just hope at least one person sees this and remembers it just in case they ever even see some other person dealing with it unknowingly. Just so they can kindly suggest "hey if youve checked everything else that might be a plant disease, i heard theres certain fungicides that can help" Ill feel better going on living if this reaches just one person somewhere out in the world. Nobody deserves this pain. Nobody.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 08:12:48 No.2614719 Report

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>>2614708
Well anon at least you know now, and you proved that none of those fags knew what they were talking about. Good luck with the future

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 08:31:40 No.2614725 Report

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>>2614719
Thanks. Ironically when researching fusarium and verticillium many many sources say that there is nothing that kills them. However a minority reveal there have been different research studies using the products Actinovate, Mycostop, Purecrop1 and Benomyl have been effective at killing it and preventing it, even outdoors in-ground. I have not tested any myself yet, but the point is that diligence and discretion with information when gardening, it's crucial. Without it, mere patience is nothing. Actinovate has the most sources saying it works, despite the majority of sources not even aware that it exists. Nobody knows EVERYTHING.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jul 2023 21:19:34 No.2615072 Report

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>>2614564
would jadam sulfur work ?

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