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Canoeing distance.

Anonymous Mon 10 Feb 2014 23:27:42 No.268574 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>268606 >>268749 >>270757 >>274182 >>282013

Realistically, how far can you canoe in one day?

2 paddles in the water - not wanting to kill ourselves or set speed records.

No rapids - with the current - "big" river (Wisconsin)

Also, general paddling/canoeing/kayaking thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Feb 2014 23:35:23 No.268578 Report

Quoted By: >>268581

Wind and the speed of the current are big factors.

I've done 9-10 miles relatively comfortably in calm winds.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Feb 2014 23:39:05 No.268581 Report

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>>268578
this.
If the wind and currents are cooperating, you'll glide by without any effort, but you can die if the wind is too strong.

But we wouldn't do it if there were no risks, would we?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Feb 2014 23:48:55 No.268587 Report

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Like I said, we will be going with the current. Factoring wind will be challenging. Trying to get a plan for a 3-4 day trip down the river.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 00:58:40 No.268606 Report

Quoted By: >>268610

>>268574
Milwaukee River or Eagle River?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 01:09:37 No.268610 Report

Quoted By: >>268613

>>268606
Wisconsin River

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Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 01:13:02 No.268613 Report

Quoted By: >>276929

>>268610
Damn. I've no familiarity with that one, sorry dude.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 05:11:16 No.268729 Report

Quoted By: >>268748 >>268750 >>270757 >>274182

I've read 2-3.5 miles per hour is about what I should expect. Anyone have experience to the contrary?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 06:00:39 No.268748 Report

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>>268729
No, just letting you know that I have easily achieved this in the past with both my mother and sister who hate outdoor activities.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 06:13:59 No.268749 Report

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>>268574
A comfortable day, (especially with teh current) is 10 miles(with current, if there's anything, aim for 12). Furthest I've ever gone in a day was about 33 miles, but that was just paddling down a river for like, 12 hours. (fucking ottawa river has NO current.)

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Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 06:15:00 No.268750 Report

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>>268729
I think you're unlikely to be disappointed if you expect that rate. I'm curious on when you're going though and in what part of the river.

I grew up in central Wisconsin and at least the central reaches of the river have dams and flowages every so often. So make sure you don't wind up paddling into a dead end flowage and be prepared to portage around dams? Assuming you'd rather not find those things out for yourself.

Also, while the river is rather placid, beware of the springtime melt. Current will be swifter but less predictable and might make finding landing areas more difficult.

At least that holds true for central Wisconsin. I would assume the upper reaches are more wild, especially north of Wausau and I can't speak much at all about how she is towards the south and west.

Good luck though and maybe just keep heading down the Mississippi if you're going that far!

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Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 07:40:31 No.268785 Report

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Man I'd love to build me a sweet canoe like this

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Anonymous Tue 11 Feb 2014 07:41:38 No.268787 Report

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>>268785
wrong picture

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Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 11:05:39 No.270702 Report

Quoted By: >>270738 >>270759 >>271012 >>271914 >>272926 >>273027

What's better for going camping, canoe or kayak? Canoe looks like it would be better for taking a QT out for a spin, but I don't know shit and want to learn. ._.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 13:31:33 No.270738 Report

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>>270702
i bring a big cooler full of beer. its alot easier to put that in a canoe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 13:58:21 No.270747 Report

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what sort of endurance could you get out of a single man canoe, as in how many days/weeks could you go without resupply?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 15:08:22 No.270757 Report

Quoted By: >>276938

>>268574
>>268729

A partner and I canoed 180 miles in 57 hours during an adventure race. This was early April in Michigan, when water levels were down. The part that took the most time was moving the canoe over log jams and portaging around dams and oil spills.

It was below freezing as soon as the sun went down, a lot of our equipment was stuck in a frozen puddle on the bottom. Because of this and time constraints, we never stopped to camp. Instead, we took turns taking catnaps during the day, when it was safer for one person to manage a canoe.

It wasn't all fun, per se, but I am still very proud of what we accomplished. I'm just throwing that story out there to illustrate that you can really, really cover some distance in a canoe if you try.

>tl;dr
>Two young people going hard with no sleep or rest can go:
>180 miles/57 hours = 3.16 mph
>including a bunch of shitty portages

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Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 15:14:42 No.270759 Report

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>>270702
If you and a buddy are trying to hit a hard section of river, and the actual boating is the focus of the trip- Kayaks all day. Much more fun for personal usage. Sports cars of the paddle world.

However, trying to make some serious distance and be comfy at the same time? Deck out that canoe with some nice soft seats and a cupholder, throw in the cooler and just about anything else you damn well please (in a floating water tight container, or atleast with a small buoy so you can see where it sunk) and set off (Depending on what kinda difficulty of water you'll be in) I've got a big ol 16ft canoe that we always take along on our group kayaking trips, that thing is like our Supply Truck, lumbering slowly down river while the more nibble kayaks dart forward to scout for obstacles.

Fucking boat threads, making me miss summer.

>Can't wait to pull my legs out of a yak, dip my feet in the water, and lean back with my hat, some smokes and a beer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 22:45:28 No.271012 Report

Quoted By: >>271024

>>270702
A canoe can carry a lot more gear and is much easier to fish from. A kayak is more fun if you're just running a river. Canoe is far better for camping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 22:58:40 No.271024 Report

Quoted By: >>271025

>>271012

Well there's a few camping spots around here which I would like to overnight and maybe take a QT. Distance is about 12km each way with many interesting things to look at along the way. Going slow is OK in my book and getting the QT to paddle is fine as well. Water is a combination of sheltered harbour and flat river. Is this a realistic distance for a canoe?

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Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 23:00:24 No.271025 Report

Quoted By: >>271029

>>271024
Yes, easily. That's perfect for canoeing and sounds like a lot of fun. Will probably be 2-4 hours each way depending on current, wind, and how hard you work.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 23:15:21 No.271029 Report

Quoted By: >>271030

>>271025

Thanks! I go to these spots via bike but they sure are hard work to get to and 2hard4QTs to ride on. And I see happy people kayaking past on the creek and I would like that too. :3

In fact canoes are big enough I might even be able to cart bikes in them, which would be nice.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 23:19:20 No.271030 Report

Quoted By: >>271034

>>271029
You'd have a pretty hard time carrying even one bike in a normal sized canoe.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2014 23:32:26 No.271034 Report

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>>271030

ok ('._.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2014 10:26:00 No.271224 Report

Quoted By: >>273028 >>273515

Any guy used a folding canoe? Are they good? What about inflatable canoes? I only have a small car and can't really roofrack one, but I've got a towbar, just wondering how guys get their canoes around.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2014 10:54:07 No.271235 Report

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I can do about 15 miles comfortly and still have time to relax at camp for a little bit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2014 11:01:49 No.271243 Report

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I built a really nice trailer for the local scout troop out of a boat trailer sorry no pic of the finished project

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2014 03:34:25 No.271707 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANrU5aCqf_s

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Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2014 15:19:08 No.271914 Report

Quoted By: >>272491

>>270702
Canoe holds more gear and more people if you want to go with someone.

Also, there's this, that you also can't do in a kayak
http://www.startribune.com/?id=217172731

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Feb 2014 12:40:34 No.272491 Report

Quoted By: >>272505 >>272518 >>273520

>>271914

Are they hard to handle solo? For a noob kinda guy that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Feb 2014 13:09:17 No.272505 Report

Quoted By: >>273520

>>272491
Nah. Just learn the basic strokes. Get especially comfortable with the J-stroke and you'll be fine.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Feb 2014 13:32:57 No.272515 Report

Quoted By: >>272519 >>272781 >>272786

Is this a good canoe? Reasonable price at my local store. Where do you sit when you're by yourself?

http://www.oldtowncanoe.com.au/canoes/guide147.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Feb 2014 13:35:46 No.272518 Report

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>>272491
Well the first time I got into a canoe I was called a 'natural' for copying guys on nature shows. It does not seem too difficult to get the basics down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Feb 2014 13:36:21 No.272519 Report

Quoted By: >>272786

>>272515

I just read that you sit on the front seat but facing backwards and paddle it backwards, which makes sense I suppose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 00:18:29 No.272781 Report

Quoted By: >>272932

>>272515
That's a good one. Two people will he fine in that canoe.
Going Solo, you'll want to either sit in the back and put all your gear up front (canoe balances better that way) for longer treks or kneel/sit on a chair in the middle by the central bar and row that way for shorter outings. Either way, the object is to get your weight balanced evenly in the canoe and your center of gravity down so that the canoe is less apt to tip over.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 00:25:47 No.272786 Report

Quoted By: >>272930

>>272519
That's half-right. You definitely want to get closer to the center of the canoe to stabilize it more and the front seat is closer to the middle, but if the seats are custom-molded like they were in >>272515 , it won't be comfortable doing that. It'd almost be better to sit on a small step-stool in the middle, as long as it's high enough for you to comfortably reach over the sides and paddle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 06:00:31 No.272926 Report

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>>270702
Canoe for larger, milder rivers and small to mid-sized lakes.

Whitewater kayaks where appropriate, sea kayaks for large (Great) lakes and the ocean.

Canoes are great for newbies as far as comfort and initial stability. And obviously you can carry more and especially more bulky items.

Note that kayaks are far more stable, especially in heavy weather/waves, but if you or someone you're with has never spent time in one, there's a learning curve for getting comfortable with how they move under you.

I personally love sea kayaks for long trips on the Great Lakes or if you were traveling on the ocean. You're limited on the large objects you can take, but especially the roomier two-person sea kayaks have plenty of room for gear if you're smart about stowing it. Plus the storage compartments are generally waterproof in the event of waves/rolling the boat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 06:11:37 No.272930 Report

Quoted By: >>278185 >>278999

>>272786

What about kneeling in the middle, is that a comfy position?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 06:18:44 No.272932 Report

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>>272781

I've been reading PROTIPs and one I noticed was to fill a drybag with water and use it to ballast the front, which makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 13:34:48 No.273027 Report

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>>270702
Bill Mason

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Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 13:37:38 No.273028 Report

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>>271224
You can roofrack on anything. My neighbor when I was a kid ran a campground and canoe rental business and had his Ford Pinto rigged up to carry four canoes, two wide, two high.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 13:43:13 No.273030 Report

Quoted By: >>282012

Hey fellow wisconsinfag.

Just so you know, the stretch from Mosinee through WR is HUGE for paper processing. Be prepared for it to smell pretty bad for some stretches.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Feb 2014 23:46:40 No.273271 Report

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Does anyone use the little portage wheels? Or is it just a matter of HTFU? :)

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:09:37 No.273515 Report

Quoted By: >>273520 >>274962 >>278999

>>271224
Our ginormous aluminum bathtub (17' Ouachita) on top of the Vue I just sold my kid too cheap. You can roof rack on anything if you do it right. That pic was taken 800 miles from home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:13:21 No.273520 Report

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>>272491
>>272505
FWIW, I usually paddle the beast in >>273515 with my wife and kids riding in the front. I work from my knees so I can better keep it from rolling side to side. I also use a double-ended kayak paddle instead of a single canoe paddle so I neither wear out my arms unequally nor have to swap sides. After my first time kayaking I wondered why anyone would use a canoe paddle willingly.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2014 12:44:48 No.274166 Report

Quoted By: >>274422

I just watched a Ray Meares vid where he went canoeing with a pal, I want one now. ._.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2014 12:49:55 No.274168 Report

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How about inflatable canoe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2014 14:36:12 No.274182 Report

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>>268574
>>268729

I used to be a canoe guide. average speed on flat water with no current was 4 mph. Assume you are pulling about 6 mph with the current. you do the math; how long do you want to paddle every day? Otherwise, see

>>268749

The farthest I've gone in a single day is about 40 miles, but I've seen people do insane things too. Two guys once paddled and portaged 140 miles, then portaged the Grand Portage (8.5 miles) in 32 hours. They were insane.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2014 00:02:47 No.274422 Report

Quoted By: >>274446

>>274166

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANrU5aCqf_s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2014 01:24:44 No.274446 Report

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>>274422

>you will never go on a non-gay brotrip with a complimentary expert and chortle at light-hearted japes while carving paddles from deadwood and eating bannock and pancakes
;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Feb 2014 02:16:17 No.274892 Report

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I drive a 4 door civic.
do i have to have a roof rack to transport a small sit on top kayak to a waterway, or could i just throw it on top with a couple pool noodles to keep it from damaging my kayak, with some load straps tightented all the way down, twice through each window.

Its really hard to find roof racks for my car.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Feb 2014 02:17:38 No.274894 Report

Quoted By: >>274962

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Anonymous Sun 23 Feb 2014 04:15:17 No.274962 Report

Quoted By: >>274964

>>273515

>>274894 here. You can get a cartop carry kit for a canoe or kayak from some place like Academy for twenty or thirty bucks. Don't do it. I had one of those and hated it passionately.

My wife and I were in Corpus Christi, Texas and rented a two seater kayak on a whim. The place we rented it had roof racks they let you use with your rental. They are basically two sets of binders through a big noodle with a tough cloth cover. They worked so well we bought a set to use with our canoe. They're in use in the pic above. I also use ratcheting tie down straps at both ends because that canoe catches lots of wind and there are places the speed limit is 80 and I don't like moving slower than traffic. Have never had a problem with it and the racks have held up well. I can honestly recommend them without reservation.

The surf shop in question is Wind and Wave Watersports on South Padre Island Drive in Corpus. They're the only place to get that setup. You'll have to call, they've no website.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Feb 2014 04:20:08 No.274964 Report

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>>274962
Damn phone switched the comment links. Sorry.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Feb 2014 10:05:18 No.275075 Report

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Sure looks like fun. ._.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 03:58:47 No.276929 Report

Quoted By: >>277402

>>268613
you paddle the MKE?

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 04:15:26 No.276938 Report

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>>270757
how did you canoe at night? must have been dark as fuck

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 21:34:51 No.277402 Report

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>>276929
Nigga, I LIVE on the MKE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 20:42:51 No.278185 Report

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>>272930
Not really for any long distance, though carrying some sort of foam pad to put under your knees helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Mar 2014 13:11:32 No.278999 Report

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>>272930
>kneeling

>>273515
here. I usually kneel in mine. It's a lot more stable position (which helps maintain balance with a couple of kids bouncing around in there with you). Our canoe is aluminum, so it doesn't have much give. A mat like the ones they sell old ladies to use in the garden makes it comfy all day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Mar 2014 19:15:48 No.282012 Report

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>>273030
Starting near Prairie du Sac I believe.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Mar 2014 19:20:19 No.282013 Report

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>>268574
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