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What is enough?

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 16:18:51 No.2744603 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 16:31:51 No.2744607 Report

Quoted By: >>2748244

>>2744603
I always put in an IV catheter before I hike so I can quick swap saline bags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 16:44:44 No.2744614 Report

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>>2744603
You need to eat too, if its a smaller hike like the guy in article went on you can probably just eat a meal before heading out. I'm getting the feeling the guy just decided to eat breakfast/lunch after he got back from the hike and that, combined with the heat, is what got to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 17:32:25 No.2744626 Report

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>>2744603
really depends on starting conditions.
>physical health/conditioning
>amount of reserve energy
>last time you ate
>last time you drank
>electrolyte levels
>temperature/humidity
>level of exertion
Like if you take any 3 of those in optimal conditions and fuck up the rest, you'll still be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 20:46:36 No.2744675 Report

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>>2744603
not getting vaccinated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 21:00:53 No.2744683 Report

Quoted By: >>2744691 >>2744720

Bump this great thread! An ENEMA, yes an ENEMA up your ASS in the middle of the trail in front of everybody is the BARE minimum to not get dehydrated. YOU HAVE TO SHOVE THE WATER UP YOUR ASS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 21:23:48 No.2744691 Report

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>>2744683
U mad bro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 21:24:41 No.2744693 Report

Quoted By: >>2744697 >>2746268 >>2750819

>>2744603
Water with electrolytes. If you just drink water, you can flush too much sodium and your synapses will stop firing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 21:26:42 No.2744697 Report

Quoted By: >>2750741

>>2744693
*It's called Hyponatremia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 22:28:28 No.2744712 Report

Quoted By: >>2744725 >>2748267 >>2754901

>>2744603
Check the peak wet bulb temperature projections or look up the heat and humidity and run it through a wet bulb temperature calculator. In dangerous conditions you will need to have free access to shade and water. Above 95F you will die in a matter of hours and you should reschedule your hike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 22:31:43 No.2744716 Report

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>>2744603
Water, electrolytes, if you can hear your heartbeat in your ears it's time to stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 22:36:19 No.2744720 Report

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>>2744683
but I already keep my trail bananas in there because I like them covered in chocolate when I summit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 22:39:38 No.2744724 Report

Quoted By: >>2752863

Get water bottle packets that have electrolytes in them. There are water bottle packets designed for people involved in strenuous activity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 22:45:00 No.2744725 Report

Quoted By: >>2744786

>>2744712
>Above 95F you will die in a matter of hours and you should reschedule your hike.
Lmao. No. I've gone for plenty of multi-day hikes in temperatures up to 40C, as long as you stay hydrated and don't push yourself too hard it's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2024 22:45:15 No.2744726 Report

Quoted By: >>2748194

>>2744720
Bananas have lots of potassium

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jun 2024 02:42:23 No.2744786 Report

Quoted By: >>2744792 >>2746179

>>2744725
The wet bulb temperature is different from the temperature. Play with this calculator so you can get an idea of what wet bulb temperatures are dangerous.

https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/wet-bulb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jun 2024 03:15:06 No.2744792 Report

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>>2744786
Interdasting. Thank you anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jun 2024 03:38:25 No.2744797 Report

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beer, wine or vodka are better then water

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2024 20:13:39 No.2746179 Report

Quoted By: >>2746508 >>2746636

>>2744786
>nnnoooooo you don't get it, it doesn't matter that generations of humans regularly survived in these conditions, we gave it a ScArY new name to push our agenda!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2024 00:57:30 No.2746268 Report

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>>2744693
And sometimes you get crippling leg cramps

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2024 02:54:08 No.2746320 Report

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>>2744603
Water with salt NIGGA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2024 17:02:30 No.2746508 Report

Quoted By: >>2750813

>>2746179
Generations of humans were physically fit and acclimatized to hot weather. And they still rested in the shade when necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2024 19:33:05 No.2746570 Report

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>>2744603
Electrolytes. Salt and protein. The expert from the article says he likes salted nuts and jerky.
You’d know that if you read the article past the title. But you’re a mouth breathing idiot so you ask on 4chan instead of just reading the article.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2024 02:15:45 No.2746636 Report

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>>2746179
Said generations of humans sat in the shade midday and focused on doing as little as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 12:35:49 No.2748133 Report

Quoted By: >>2750873

>>2744603
Fun fact, Smart Water only has 25 ppm total dissolved solids, it will surely dehydrate you. Drinking water should have >100 ppm tds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 14:22:37 No.2748194 Report

Quoted By: >>2748201

>>2744726
Not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 14:29:57 No.2748201 Report

Quoted By: >>2748211 >>2748218 >>2756036

>>2748194
About 10% of DV, and they're more appealing than eating fistfuls of swiss chard. Don't be a contrarian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 14:47:21 No.2748211 Report

Quoted By: >>2748218 >>2748243

>>2748201
There are many more foods with exceedingly higher potassium levels. Bananas are not particularly high, sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 15:09:58 No.2748218 Report

Quoted By: >>2748243

>>2748211
>>2748201

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 16:05:56 No.2748243 Report

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>>2748218
>>2748211

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 16:07:15 No.2748244 Report

Quoted By: >>2748246

>>2744607
Don’t laugh, as a medic and RN I’ve thought about this. Under extreme temperatures running a bag of saline or even lactated ringers maintenance at like 70/hr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 16:12:31 No.2748246 Report

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>>2748244
Enemas. Give up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2024 17:07:15 No.2748267 Report

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>>2744712
>wet bulb
Thanks for teaching me about this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jun 2024 17:29:09 No.2748589 Report

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Elevation exacerbates things. Better be well fed and hydrated before you get to the trailhead. A little sports drink mix in your water and something to eat with easy-access carbos and sodium. I like a bit of fat too like peanuts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 00:47:32 No.2750741 Report

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>>2744697
This sent me to the ER. I was sick hadn't eaten much of anything in several days. I finally got anti nasuea meds and started drinking water. I drank a ton over the next 36 hours probably at least 2-3 gallons. I was still really thirsty so I drank more, big mistake. ER nurse said oh yeah this happens multiple times every day because of low sodium fads. Too few electrolytes can kill you.

fun fact: ODing on water is the idea that spawned branwdo it's got electrolytes in ideocracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 06:39:12 No.2750813 Report

Quoted By: >>2750995

>>2746508
>>2746636
>Muh shade
If it's above 30c and humidity is high the shade is doing fuck all to help. You gotta get into a cool place where colder air is sumping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 07:22:23 No.2750819 Report

Quoted By: >>2750837 >>2751454 >>2752891

>>2744693
How did ancient humans do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 09:46:10 No.2750837 Report

Quoted By: >>2750838

>>2750819
By drinking mineral-rich water from natural sources instead of purified water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 09:56:34 No.2750838 Report

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>>2750837
Also by just dieing before they turned 30

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 11:34:11 No.2750873 Report

Quoted By: >>2750961

>>2748133
>Fun fact, Smart Water only has 25 ppm total dissolved solids, it will surely dehydrate you.
Why does Smart Water have Smart in the name? I'm not a burger and I know about it only because those water filters can screw onto the bottle neck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 12:17:45 No.2750886 Report

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>muh water dehydrates you
Literally just put some table salt in your water fucking retards. Problem solved. Look at these idiots discussing IV's lmao lick some salt fucking faggots.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 14:57:15 No.2750938 Report

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You need minerals. There's a reason goats are beating up hikers for their pee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 16:11:49 No.2750961 Report

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>>2750873
>Why does Smart Water have Smart in the name?
Marketing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 17:00:06 No.2750995 Report

Quoted By: >>2751255 >>2751459

>>2750813
You mean, swamps?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jul 2024 18:29:54 No.2751032 Report

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>>2744603
Really just depends on were you're at, in my part of the states the humidity/dew point and UV index will kill you way before the actual heat gets a chance. Exposure is a real thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2024 07:47:37 No.2751255 Report

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>>2750995
Nah like cool gullys,creeks, riverbeds. Just low points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2024 23:24:38 No.2751454 Report

Quoted By: >>2751455

>>2750819
First, they were more fit, by necessity. They did not live lives of modern comfort. They also didn't have filtered/purified water. The drank right from the source. Unfiltered water has much higher mineral content. Minerals that we consume as vitamins because our diets aren't varied enough and our water too filtered to provide them naturally. It is our modern "clean" world that is why we need to consume electrolytes supplementaly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2024 23:27:02 No.2751455 Report

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>>2751454
This is a smart man. Smart men eat rocks and raw water. Cooking your water lowers its calories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2024 23:38:58 No.2751459 Report

Quoted By: >>2754872

>>2750995
Is this why the brithish have such crooked and rotten teeth?

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2024 06:47:47 No.2751570 Report

Quoted By: >>2751571 >>2751581

>>2744603
I sweat buckets at work every day. A couple of these keeps me free of cramps.
Virtually identical to Powerade Iso-whatever but a fraction of the price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2024 06:49:18 No.2751571 Report

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>>2751570
That's $NZ Rupees, probably under $2 Freedoms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2024 08:17:10 No.2751581 Report

Quoted By: >>2751655 >>2752876

>>2751570
You can buy this bottle of concentrate for 60 bucks that makes 90L, I take a little onions sauce bottle with me on trips. I think I got it at health 2000 but I can't remember. Sugar free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2024 13:10:20 No.2751609 Report

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Utah would be the best state in the country if it wasn't a barren hellscape. It's really too bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2024 14:55:20 No.2751655 Report

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>>2751581
Cheers for that I’ll check it out tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2024 05:07:35 No.2752863 Report

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>>2744724
If you wanna go cheap, get some NoSalt (potassium chloride) and pink salt. bingo bango snake juice

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2024 07:38:29 No.2752876 Report

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>>2751581
The liquid electrolyte bottles have artificial sweetener which i don't like
In amerimuttistan i normally use emergen-c packets because they're cheaper than sports dedicated electrolyte packets.

They have all the same electrolytes except sodium, but that's a nonissue since i get enough sodium from my camping food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2024 09:52:37 No.2752891 Report

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>>2750819
With much more discomfort than modern people. They would have killed someone for a Gatorade and a pair of trail runners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2024 16:30:33 No.2754872 Report

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>>2751459
nah that is just euros in general having low bone density compared to the rest of the world, makes the more vulnerable to modern 'cuisine' fucking their teeth up. it's why black people don't get cavities while white people can be on the ball with dental hygiene and still get fucked up by them. also why there isn't any black dentists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2024 18:53:31 No.2754892 Report

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https://science.drinklmnt.com/electrolytes/best-homemade-electrolyte-drink-for-dehydration/

This makes me a little thirsty so maybe pack pure water or dilute it a bit more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2024 18:56:28 No.2754894 Report

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Electrolytes yes, but also staying hydrated 24 hours before a difficult outing is important. It's amazing how much eating and drinking right the day before can do for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2024 19:43:26 No.2754901 Report

Quoted By: >>2754924

>>2744712
A million mexican roofers confirm you "wet bulb" scaremongers are full of shit.

I used to skate outside in the midday Texas sun at 98% humidity. Water not evaporating doesn't matter, it drips and wipes off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2024 21:03:32 No.2754924 Report

Quoted By: >>2755970

>>2754901
Tell that to Reddit who can't shut up about muh wet bulb doomsday scenarios. Start with r/collapse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2024 00:28:56 No.2754978 Report

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>>2744603
Well you need electrolytes too if youre sweating profusely. I was outside yesterday doing tree work for about 4 hours. I stayed hydrated on 1 bottle of gatorade and 1 litre of water. It was something like 86 degrees but 95 with humidex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2024 00:34:54 No.2754981 Report

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>>2744603
Pedialyte

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jul 2024 12:07:12 No.2755948 Report

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American tap ""water"" is poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jul 2024 13:24:13 No.2755970 Report

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>>2754924
I could stand to get my bulb wet dessu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jul 2024 20:53:09 No.2756036 Report

Quoted By: >>2756051

>>2748201
>10% of DV for an entire banana
>Sugar competes with potassium so it's actually more like 7 or 8%
>A fucking potato has more potassium
Bananas aren't good for meeting daily potassium needs. You'd need like 12 minimum and you'd just be shitting constantly from banana-maxxing. Potatoes are actually viable and you can easily eat a couple no problem. It's still not gonna be all of your daily potassium needs but it's a whole lot better than 10%, which is honestly just a useless amount.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jul 2024 22:52:28 No.2756051 Report

Quoted By: >>2756053

>>2756036
>more contrarian bitching
Did a banana beat you up and take your lunch money or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jul 2024 22:56:17 No.2756053 Report

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>>2756051
It's not being "contrarian" to point out that they have effectively less than 10% dv of potassium, that's just not a good source. Seriously, to get to half your daily need you'd need to eat 5 of them and I'm the only person I know who eats even 2 of them a day.

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