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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 05:22:42 No.2756131 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2756133 >>2756167 >>2756201 >>2757136 >>2757750

You are thrown out into the wilderness with only a knife, a pair of tweezers, and a hafted hand tool of your choice. Which tool do you think would help your shut-in self survive the longest?

OP's (correct) choice: A cutter mattock.

>hard mode
No combination tools.
I'd pick an adze here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 05:24:47 No.2756133 Report

Quoted By: >>2756134

>>2756131
the tweezers because i am constantly digging pieces of shells out of my heels. plenty of shellfish and fish in general to eat here so i dont need your fancy iron tool bullshit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 05:29:02 No.2756134 Report

Quoted By: >>2756218

>>2756133
You get the tool in addition to the knife and tweezers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 10:04:41 No.2756167 Report

Quoted By: >>2756203

>>2756131
A magnifying glass so I can easily start fires

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 11:03:44 No.2756174 Report

Quoted By: >>2756175

A 2.2lb camp axe with a European handle.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 11:08:12 No.2756175 Report

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>>2756174
Sorry forgot pic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 15:11:22 No.2756201 Report

Quoted By: >>2756203

>>2756131
Not a shut-in, so I'd pick a boar spear... Though I guess that's not a tool anywhere except German law (Not joking btw).
For an actual tool, I'd pick a hafted hatchet. One of those long british ones, wehre there's a 1m grip and a 1m blade with a sharpened hook on the back. They can replace axe, hatchet and machete, and the hook is useful for when you want to harvest high-hanging fruit.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 15:30:22 No.2756203 Report

Quoted By: >>2757345

>>2756167
Very useful for when you have to start a fire only at noon and during the hottest and driest time of the year.
>>2756201
Are you describing a block billhook?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 17:04:09 No.2756218 Report

Quoted By: >>2757385

>>2756134
i would trade the other tools to the natives for some berries and dried fish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2024 18:45:18 No.2756232 Report

Quoted By: >>2756410

I would take a McLeoud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2024 12:29:02 No.2756410 Report

Quoted By: >>2756428

>>2756232
Isn't that used for building trails?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2024 13:16:27 No.2756418 Report

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>a hafted hand tool of your choice
a PBY Catalina with a stick duck taped on somewhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2024 14:25:15 No.2756428 Report

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>>2756410
Connor MacLeod of the clan MacLeod

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 00:11:54 No.2757136 Report

Quoted By: >>2757246 >>2757323

>>2756131
A really sturdy spade type shovel, preferably one that can be used to also split wood with the side. A shovel is so valuable in the woods. Digging is so valuable. If you're where it gets really cold your best bet is to dig way into the side of a hill and make a cave-like structure. Also can be used to garden and can be used as a weapon. Shovels are fucking gold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 09:33:53 No.2757246 Report

Quoted By: >>2757323 >>2757468

>>2757136
The tool in op is the best digging tool by a mile. A Shovel is great for moving loose soil and a spade is for digging straight holes for fencing and piles but a mattok will straight up dig better than anything. One of them with a wider blade would be ideal depends where you're digging though.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 14:58:43 No.2757323 Report

Quoted By: >>2757468

>>2757136
Also for planting stakes, setting up fire pits, digging out roots for cordage, and perhaps most importantly burying your logs. Still, a shovel is less than ideal for denser soil/clay, and adzes can do so much more wrt wood.
Pre-5000 BC, stone adzes were all that was used for working wood in Central Europe.
>>2757246
Traditional German mattocks have massive implements on either side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 16:02:26 No.2757345 Report

Quoted By: >>2757379

>>2756203
>Are you describing a block billhook?
The ones I'm familiar with are more the size of a halberd rather than the hatchet you posted, but the blades are similar. No clue what they're called, though - in German, it's "Hippe", but that's more of a general term for every blade used in gardening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 17:29:24 No.2757379 Report

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>>2757345
Billhooks with long shafts were also used as weapons alongside halberds. I think I would like one with a two-handed handle, you could always extend it with a long stick and a few constrictor knots if the need arises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 17:35:26 No.2757385 Report

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>>2756218
Trade and diplomacy. You have the right idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 22:39:33 No.2757468 Report

Quoted By: >>2757598 >>2757834

>>2757246
>>2757323
I get what you're saying but I would still go with a really thick sturdy shovel if we're talking about no combination tools. The cutter mattock is a combo tool. Not to mention that digging a hole is a whole lot easier with a shovel. I've done trail work and all kinds of outdoor work for the past 2 decades. If I am digging I'm using a shovel, not swinging a mattock. How do you plan to scoop piles of dirt away? That's the whole point. I could go with what you're saying if the 'adze'/scoop side of the cutter mattock was super wide, like 8 inches, with the chopping end on the other side. That would be sweet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2024 10:04:55 No.2757598 Report

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>>2757468
Adzes aren't combination tools. A 5lb mattock has an adze the width of a trenching shovel, and grub hoes/mattocks are different to shovels in that you use your legs and thighs to pull material out rather than (mainly) your shoulder and back so they're much less tiring and straining. Mattocks make shittier holes, can't dig very deep, and can't move material very far, but they're passable for many purposes. Adzes are usually sharp enough to cut wood, you can carve a smaller tree down to a cone and fell it like that. Both tools have their place though, especially wider shovels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2024 10:43:47 No.2757601 Report

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I've neglected to mention that not every tool with a blade perpendicular to the haft is a woodworking adze, the slip-fit ones are usually wider, blunter, and intended for digging (i.e. grub hoes), and wedge-hafted ones are usually very sharp and occasionally curved along the edge and are designed exclusively for squaring or hollowing timber, always called adzes in this case. I'd be reluctant to chop down a tree with a slip-fit adze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2024 20:25:29 No.2757750 Report

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>>2756131
>thrown out into the wilderness
shoes so I can walk the fuck out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2024 01:58:23 No.2757834 Report

Quoted By: >>2757865

>>2757468
From building mtb trails I'm 100% set on the mattock. I've dug caves with them, they're far more efficient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2024 04:01:09 No.2757865 Report

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>>2757834
Same. Digger mattocks are much faster excavators and take less energy to break through material.
Shovels can't deal with roots, rocks, or compaction.

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