>>2767010>The consensus on /out/ is that the outdoors are supposed to be uncomfortablei would argue it is. depending on your, age and skill level.
of course if you know more about camping then a new person, perhaps their first overnighter you don want to scare them off a wonderful hobby
just because i enjoy being dumped in a ditch, army ration, tarp, lighter, knife, teddy bear and rescue flare doesnt apply to everyone
