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Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2024 08:21:54 No.2779283 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2779412 >>2779421 >>2779554 >>2779985

Is becoming a forest ranger a worthwhile ambition?
It's what I've wanted to do since I was like 12 or 13. Now I'm in college working on my degree in forestry. I don't really care about pay that much, I just want to do something actually semi-meaningful with my life.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2024 14:49:37 No.2779347 Report

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its all nepotism and youll end up sucking cock eventually but besides that, yes go for it. i regret that i havent made that choice everybday and still ended up sucking cock...

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Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2024 20:36:00 No.2779412 Report

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>>2779283
if you're going LEO route then yeah, you probably want to join the military and do police academy and work as a cop for a while.

even if you don't plan on doing cop work you might want to join the military since vets get hiring bonuses and disabled vets get even bigger hiring bonuses. You'll be competing with a lot of vets for any jobs.

none of that is necessary, you might luck into a job if you know the right people and apply repeatedly for years. But more likely you'll wind up as a seasonal or even volunteer for years. But if you do get hired you're in for life. They pretty much can't get rid of you once you're hired.

pay is shit. Work is mostly shit. Budgets are shit. A lot of the people are very angery and weird. But you do get to work in the woods, and probably get free housing.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2024 21:10:12 No.2779419 Report

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Pay is pretty dogshit, especially in certain areas. A large part of that is federal locational pay not taking resort/tourist areas into account. To no be paid "rest of US" pay, you need to be in a recognized metropolitan area or have a certain number of federal employees in an area.

One thing to keep in mind is that once you're past your probation period, you can move between BLM, NPS, and FS fairly easily.

Check with your college to see if they have intern programs with your nearest Forest. If they don't then look for a regional youth core that does single placement internships. It's a huge foot in the door and gives you a taste of what the work is like in at least that district.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2024 21:18:15 No.2779420 Report

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>>2779419
>federal locational pay not taking resort/tourist areas into account.
ah that explains it.
I live in a resort area and FS hires GS5's at like $16 in a town where walmart workers make $30 and anyone with a degree is making $40 and up.

the pay is extremely bad for my area at least.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2024 21:39:03 No.2779421 Report

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>>2779283
I'm not a park ranger but I've heard that unless you're one of the law enforcement ones that its a lot of cleaning shitters and dealing with smooth brain tourists. Also they don't get paid very well. I guess the upside though is living on/near a national park which would be cool during your time off work. idk, it might be worth it. It seems like a wagie job but in the /out/ so I suppose its better than an ordinary wagie job but theres better outdoors jobs probably.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2024 22:48:41 No.2779433 Report

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Forest rangers or those guys with guns harassing people in the middle of the woods. Is your idea of a good profession? They're literally scum of the earth. Imagine police in the forest making sure you aren't living like an actual human, instead waging in the city is what they prefer. In the event you do become one of these scumbags, please actually do good and go after poachers and what not, highly doubt you wont be corrupted.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2024 00:06:04 No.2779451 Report

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I worked at a state park and enjoyed it. Very different than a gig at the NPS though. I mostly greeted people when they came into the park, answered questions best I could, sold things in the park store, cleaned toilets and campsites. Sometimes projects or maintenance like painting, grading or trimming trails. Occasionally go "rescue" someone who was lost.

I didn't stick with it because the pay was not very good but it was a fun job when I was younger. The career route would be to go into management but that's not for me.

And honestly cleaning toilets and campsites is pretty comfy. I was the "closer" at our park for a few years. Damn I miss those days, feels comfy just thinking about it. Loved closing up the park and wandering around at twilight to tidy up the last few things.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2024 14:40:41 No.2779554 Report

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>>2779421
I actually met a shitter cleaner and he was the happiest dudes. All he had to do was drive around an atv all day and hose them down.
>>2779412
This guy gets it. Usually you'll start seasonal for 5 to 10 years. Gov wants cock sucker's. Why do you think our politicians at the top are the best at it? It's all about that chain of command and there's always someone above whose got a whistle that's ready for you.
>>2779451
Toilet cleaner gets it.
>>2779283
Also when you start applying on usajobs you wanna put as much bullshit as possible on your in site resume. This isn't something you want short and concise for the manager to read in ten seconds before throwing it in the bin. You want to waste as much of that dei hiring agents time as possible. If you ever volunteered for 10 mins to clean the egg prank off someone's window then it's volunteer work. The ai or whatever they use will take any chance to auto fail your application. I spent years getting rejected until I had to learn the hard way. When you pass that call every ranger station you got into and introduce yourself. Most those places work at a good old boys network and just wanna know you're reliable and not a flake. That's how I got my first seasonal position. They even ignored that I didn't apply for that area because I called and showed interest.
Also be willing to work a shit area for a year. We have known areas usually in the desert or some shit that are so rural or not near a Yellowstone that people go to for promotions even for a year because their own Yellowstone has no openings, and then move back later. Be willing to get on yo knees to get your foot in the door.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2024 18:31:25 No.2779985 Report

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>>2779283
Get EMT certified. I'm not a ranger but the ones I see most often (and actually talk to on the trails) seem to patrol the most and paradoxically they don't really enforce any of the rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 14:08:23 No.2780131 Report

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It's trash pay. Be a game warden instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2024 01:41:25 No.2782104 Report

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Sounds great!

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