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Best /out/ in USA

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2024 23:34:10 No.2785894 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2786066 >>2786157 >>2786854 >>2786926

What is the best /out/ in the USA and why is it Southwest Colorado?

This variety and extremes of this region are unmatched.

Ouray, Telluride, Grand Junction, Durango, these places are in a league of their own when it comes to enjoying America.

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2024 23:36:01 No.2785895 Report

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Snowy mountains to forests and rapids to cliffs and canyons all within just miles of each other

Mind boggling

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2024 23:41:25 No.2785896 Report

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The rest of America aint got NUTHIN on this circle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2024 01:26:39 No.2785905 Report

Quoted By: >>2785909

I prefer the hilly forests of the East.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2024 02:23:12 No.2785909 Report

Quoted By: >>2785911

>>2785905
Everywhere has hilly forests dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2024 02:43:13 No.2785911 Report

Quoted By: >>2785913

>>2785909
yes but there's still pretty significantly sized gorges in some of them, no it's not quite the scale of the west, but you get to enjoy lovely hardwood forests, most cut and cut, but a few secondary growth ones, and fewer still primary growth and you get these dendritic networks of carved-out hollows with creeks inside them and curvy but narrow ridges
I bet you haven't even been.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2024 02:55:03 No.2785913 Report

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>>2785911
>I bet you haven't even been

I grew up there. I accepted reality.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2024 21:15:24 No.2786066 Report

Quoted By: >>2786147 >>2786965

>>2785894
Alaska and it isn't close

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Nov 2024 05:54:31 No.2786130 Report

Quoted By: >>2786147 >>2786552 >>2786965

Wisconsin is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Nov 2024 10:19:41 No.2786147 Report

Quoted By: >>2786205

>>2786130
Lol
>>2786066
Less variety

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Nov 2024 12:19:44 No.2786157 Report

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>>2785894
>Early October
>Heading back to Denver from Moab
>Realize this is a perfect time to take a detour through Aspen and/or Maroon Bells to see fall colors
>Parents tell me to do some bullshit arch (I just came from Arches, I have seen a million of these things) and Fisher Towers before I leave
>Really don't want to
>"b-b-but anon, those rock formations are so cool, who cares that you just spent two weeks in Utah and saw things way cooler than arch #47340128, fuck them trees, go look at the rock formations"
>Okay fine
>Do those, and I am now running late
>The sun is already setting by the time I get to Grand Junction
>Never got to see Aspen in fall
Pic related: What I missed out on because I was too busy being like "wow that rock sure is tall, okay time to go home"

I just realized you're specifically referring to Southwest Colorado, not Colorado in general, but I already typed this out lol. I have yet to go south of Colorado Springs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Nov 2024 18:19:22 No.2786205 Report

Quoted By: >>2786220 >>2786324 >>2786546

>>2786147
>Less variety
You have clearly never been to Alaska

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Nov 2024 19:26:04 No.2786220 Report

Quoted By: >>2786324

>>2786205
I guess it depends on how much attention you ordinarily pay to what's going on close to the ground. Sure, I find views of the Caribbean from 37,000 feet pretty spectacular, but nowhere nearly as packed with sustained interest as lowland parks of the Great Lakes region are from views at strolling height, such as when stopped in a sedan with the engine off, equipped with a macro lens, an acute sense of hearing, and a very long attention span.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2024 11:22:51 No.2786324 Report

Quoted By: >>2786457

>>2786220
>>2786205
Does alaska have red desert canyons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 02:21:05 No.2786457 Report

Quoted By: >>2786495 >>2786521

>>2786324
Desert yes? Red? No.

Still more diverse than Colorado. Colorado doesn't have Fjords, it doesn't have glaciers, it doesn't have volcanoes, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:36:10 No.2786495 Report

Quoted By: >>2786517 >>2786521 >>2786966

>>2786457
>No fjords

White water rapids shit on fjords and we have plenty of creeks with big ass red canyon cliffs that are cool as fuck, we got grand granyon shit here dude

>Glaciers
Half the state is a 10ft block of ice for 6 months thats plenty glacier for anybody

>No volcanoes
Ive been to mt.st.helens great way to ruin the entire surrounding environment

Alaska doesnt have summer you have to travel multiple times greater distance to reach a warm place than I do a fjord, glacier or ocean

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 16:38:18 No.2786517 Report

Quoted By: >>2786521 >>2786543 >>2786756

>>2786495
>White water rapids shit on fjords

Incredibly bad take. Also irrelevant as Alaska also has canyons and whitewater.

>Half the state is a 10ft block of ice for 6 months thats plenty glacier for anybody

Seasonal snow is nothing like a glacier. Not even close.

>Alaska doesnt have summer
false

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 16:53:17 No.2786521 Report

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>>2786457
>>2786495
>>2786517
I believe Colorado does have a few tiny glaciers...nothing in size and quantity of AK but still...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 18:49:33 No.2786543 Report

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>>2786517
Brother many parts of Colorado you cannot distinguish from Arizona's best features

Alaska does not have this level of canyon and desert system nor the colors with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 18:59:16 No.2786546 Report

Quoted By: >>2786551 >>2786553

>>2786205
Co is more biodiverse in everything, plant animal etc (except saltwater life), has way more different ecoregions, and has more different climate types. Alaska has some things co doesn't have. But co has much more that alaska doesn't have. On variety, co wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 19:17:48 No.2786551 Report

Quoted By: >>2786555

>>2786546
No it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 19:19:31 No.2786552 Report

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>>2786130
no one cares about wisconsin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 19:28:07 No.2786553 Report

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>>2786546
Great rebuttal. There aren't even any terrestrial reptiles in alaska

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 19:30:09 No.2786555 Report

Quoted By: >>2786574

>>2786551
Great rebuttal. There isn't even a single terrestrial reptile in alaska

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 21:01:45 No.2786574 Report

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>>2786555
Oooooo rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2024 06:46:17 No.2786756 Report

Quoted By: >>2786789

>>2786517
The lower 48 has recorded more snow than AK so far this season, which is the usual since the snowiest latitudes on Earth are all in the 30-40s N between Japan and the lower 48 of the US. Parts of Arizona are at 3 ft of snowfall this season right now (normal, so is September snow). Some deserts are more biodiverse than any northern sub-arctic and arctic biome, but the fact that the SW US has every single biome on Earth within 100 miles of each other (Saguaro cacti within 45 miles of the Toumey Groundsel habitat in Alpine tundra) minus only tropical jungle and swamp (but it still has other kinds of wetlands), makes the SW really hard to beat in diversity of biology and climates/habitats. And believe it or not but the four corners has more Elk size game (520-600k actual Elk after hunting season) in a smaller area than AK, ie higher game population density. AK is also more 80-90% urban by population living arrangements, most of its inhabitants (like everywhere) are in fact LARPers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2024 14:14:25 No.2786789 Report

Quoted By: >>2786796

>>2786756
So is it settled then??

POWER RANKINGS BY REGION:
Four Corners
California
Alaska
PNW
The Gulf
Appalachia
The Northeast
Northern Michigan/Wisconsin
The rest of the midwest
The rest of the south
The deserts
The plains

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2024 18:33:36 No.2786796 Report

Quoted By: >>2786808

>>2786789
no Rockies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2024 18:49:34 No.2786798 Report

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appalachia the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2024 20:34:04 No.2786808 Report

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>>2786796
Youre right I grouped too much of the west with PNW and four corners.

Northern rockies above the gulf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 06:09:52 No.2786854 Report

Quoted By: >>2786875

>>2785894
How are the ticks out west?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 11:48:50 No.2786875 Report

Quoted By: >>2786894

>>2786854
Way way way less, I used to pull dozens off me per day out east. Id usually get em before they bit me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 16:08:27 No.2786894 Report

Quoted By: >>2786906

>>2786875
I hike a lot in the east, maybe I'm doing it in the wrong place, but I almost never get ticks.
I got two ticks this year, one I didn't notice and it made a mark that still won't fully go away, so I learned my lesson, and the second time I was explicitly warned this was a high-tick area and indeed there was one at the end of the hike. But the tick that latched was hiking in a really wet muddy waterfall-y environment. I mean like the vast majority of hikes there's no ticks at all. Bugs, definitely, especially in the summer if you don't stay up at the highest elevation, but ticks are not a big thing at least in the central/south part

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 17:11:45 No.2786906 Report

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>>2786894
It depends on the season but one bush will give ya fuckin 30 sometimes, also most people just stay on trails

In my life ive had thousands of ticks and I do not believe I have any tick borne diseases

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Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 19:53:09 No.2786926 Report

Quoted By: >>2786931 >>2786933

>>2785894
I was recently in Bend, OR and I was really impressed with how diverse the biomes were, felt like an MMO map with all the totally different zones in a relatively small area. Bend itself is sort of high desert alpine and then you drive West for a couple of hours and go through big plains, stuff that feels like the Sierras, areas that reminded me of the Poconos and northern Appalachians, and then into stereotypical PNW lush forest, east and North are two different kinds of high desert, south is more Sierra-ish forest but with big volcanic areas, and then on top of that you've got four distinct seasons, good fall color, all kinds of winter sports opportunities, fishing, hunting, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 20:22:49 No.2786931 Report

Quoted By: >>2786962

>>2786926
>areas that reminded me of the Poconos and northern Appalachians
???
there is nowhere in bend like that
t. has spent time in pa and bend
like there's parts that are green and lush in between the sisters and town, but its not like appalachia

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 20:32:03 No.2786933 Report

Quoted By: >>2786938 >>2786962

>>2786926
I lived in Bend. The problem is (and the problem with the mountain west in general) is that you can say its beautiful and sparsely populated but there's a reason. The climate is very extreme. You need studded tires during winter, you won't be hiking without snowshoes or crampons. There's just months and months of heavy thick snow in the mountains whereas in the eastern US there is snow but outside the highest elevations it doesn't form such a huge snowpack and it doesn't accumulate to the point of not melting fully until July. There's a very short season to enjoy the mountains in the West without a ton of technical gear (again this is just at higher elevations. Its cold in Bend from mid-october until mid may and you can get snow at any point during that time. It's a much more extreme climate and people don't realize that unless they've lived there or somewhere similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 20:43:02 No.2786938 Report

Quoted By: >>2786939 >>2786962

>>2786933
>You need studded tires
No you don't. You need winter tires, studded is overkill.

>you won't be hiking without snowshoes
This is why you learn to ski tour.

>There's a very short season to enjoy the mountains in the West without a ton of technical gear
Again, learn to ski tour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 20:47:01 No.2786939 Report

Quoted By: >>2786960 >>2786961

>>2786938
If I recall correctly, studded tires were like required from nov-mar or something
>overkill
no there was a solid sheet of ice and snow on the roads much of the time, my BIKE had studded tires

>This is why you learn to ski tour.
lol just pay 200 a day for groomed slopes

>just ski dude
the east has a lot of advantages that waste coasties hate being pointed out!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 23:43:58 No.2786960 Report

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>>2786939
>lol just pay 200 a day for groomed slopes

I said ski tour. Not go to a ski resort.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_touring

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 23:48:34 No.2786961 Report

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>>2786939
>If I recall correctly, studded tires were like required from nov-mar or something

Studded tires are allowed nov-mar. They aren't required.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2024 23:51:04 No.2786962 Report

Quoted By: >>2786968

>>2786931
It's hard to explain, but I'm talking about the area between Sisters and McKenzie Bridge. Just a few spots but they somehow gave me flashbacks to visiting my relatives north of Scranton. My dad was with me and agreed when I pointed it out too. The trees are wrong but there's something about the lay of the land that was doing it, and maybe also the fact that it was the beginning of last month so the fall color was starting to kick in.

>>2786933
>>2786938
I'm moving there soon (parents are retiring there and I need to be near them for at least a couple of years while they deal with medical issues etc.) so I've looked into it, and most people seem to say that the winter-rated all terrains I have on my truck should be fine, at least around town. I'd like to spend time in the mountains though, been a DH skier for years and am interested in getting into XC, and I've also been wanting aftermarket wheels for my truck so I'll probably get a set shipped with dedicated studless snows already mounted and use those when I need to and then have a shop swap the tires between wheels in the summer. I'll also get a good set of chains/cables, actually need to do that ASAP since I may need them just for driving TO Bend in December.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 00:00:47 No.2786965 Report

Quoted By:

>>2786066
based
>>2786130
wrong but based. i grew up in northern wi (on the moraine) & live in alaska now. i do miss the upper midwestern forests & lakes but it's just not comparable to AK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 00:01:52 No.2786966 Report

Quoted By: >>2786969 >>2787435

>>2786495
>Alaska doesnt have summer
interior alaska has the nicest summer in the entire united states & it's not even close

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 00:26:26 No.2786968 Report

Quoted By: >>2787071

>>2786962
I would take Scranton over Bend any day. You are massively coping. The Endless Mountains are gorgeous and well endless there's a different peak you could do every week and never repeat one.
Enjoy your frigid desert wasteland.
Seriously though, get studded tires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 00:30:06 No.2786969 Report

Quoted By: >>2786970

>>2786966
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 00:35:20 No.2786970 Report

Quoted By: >>2786971

>>2786969
don't laugh at me
>70s, sometimes 80s. never too hot
>cool breezes
>bright enough to do stuff literally all day
>incredible fishing
>fireweed seeds drifting through the air
>denali in view from the hills
>mountains all around
>rivers all around
>not overrun with tourists
nowhere else even compares

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 00:36:50 No.2786971 Report

Quoted By: >>2786972

>>2786970
You are merely describing an Alpine climate

This is a common climate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 00:41:32 No.2786972 Report

Quoted By: >>2787021 >>2787024

>>2786971
i spend a month or so every year visiting my dad in the mountains in western montana
>80s-90s most days
>gets dark at night
>SO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE
>uv index worse
>fishing worse
>incessant wildfires
it's a beautiful place but it doesn't compare!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 11:46:37 No.2787021 Report

Quoted By: >>2787072

>>2786972
You are a retarded joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 12:39:07 No.2787024 Report

Quoted By: >>2787072

>>2786972
Nigger what

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 19:25:54 No.2787071 Report

Quoted By: >>2787077 >>2787079

>>2786968
I wouldn't mind going back to my roots in PA but Bend has a lot of upsides too, way more variety in the area, multiple ski resorts within an hour, lots of public land, etc.

I'll see how things go in terms of tires, can't do it until after I move there anyway since I can't drive there on them and don't have room in my truck to bring a spare set of wheels/tires with me. Might get studs but a lot of people seem to think studless is a good tradeoff given that it often becomes illegal to run studded before the winter tire weather ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 19:30:14 No.2787072 Report

Quoted By: >>2787131

>>2787021
i'm intelligent & sophisticated
>>2787024
i'm also white & cogent

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 20:09:23 No.2787077 Report

Quoted By: >>2787084

>>2787071
Pa ( endless mountains and pine creek) has a lot of semi abandoned but beautiful terrain that could be improved to good effect for recreational purposes,
Bend is much more discovered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 20:10:24 No.2787079 Report

Quoted By: >>2787084

>>2787071
Studs are good if theres ice and you do backroads that arent salted or sanded or cleared in winter to access stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 20:35:34 No.2787084 Report

Quoted By: >>2787086 >>2787104

>>2787077
True I guess. Doesn't have the BLM land though, and I'm into /out/-adjacent stuff where that's a big benefit. (ADV/dual sport riding, shooting, etc.)

>>2787079
Yeah, I think the big thing for me is gonna come down to how much of that (if at all) I really end up wanting to do. I'm planning on getting into XC skiing because I need the exercise and it's a lot cheaper than lift tickets but I gotta figure out how much I need to go onto unmaintained roads/trails to get to places for it. Some of it is also down to where I end up living, Sunriver has some really appealing houses but the drive into Bend is a bit rough and studs would be a lot more justifiable if I have to do that commute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 20:41:04 No.2787086 Report

Quoted By: >>2787109

>>2787084
U can climb mt bachelor a bit on foot at night with a bottle of vodka u just have to dodge the grooming machine or at least thats what i did when i was there 15 yrs ago
then u dont have to pay for lift ticket
north fork of tumalo creek has some beautiful waterfalls the problem is when i was there the trail above the main lower falls is snowed in like november into july
I guess you just need snowshoes if you want to hike

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2024 22:51:42 No.2787104 Report

Quoted By: >>2787109

>>2787084
You don't have to go onto unmaintained roads. And really if a road is not maintained, it will be impossible to drive on anyway in any vehicle without tracks.

You park at a sno-park then go from there. Either on foot (with skis) or with a sled.

Dutchman-Flat sno park is a popular one. Touring up Broken Top is fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2024 00:12:16 No.2787109 Report

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>>2787086
I'm really not in a condition to be doing shit like climbing ski slopes at night anymore. I'll probably go to Hoodoo more than Bachelor anyway, seems to be the local favorite and it's way cheaper, might get a pass if I can.

>>2787104
Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. I'll check out Dutchman. From what I was seeing it seems like some of the national forests have areas you just need the regular pass for too but I'm not sure what the whole deal is with that.

Also a sled would be based as fuck but definitely not in the budget this year, gonna be buying the wheeled equivalent (some kind of dual sport/small ADV) next spring so all my big purchase budget is already allotted there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2024 05:23:32 No.2787131 Report

Quoted By: >>2787132

>>2787072
U r a joke

Do you know other places get to have summer for more than 45 minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2024 05:26:15 No.2787132 Report

Quoted By: >>2787159

>>2787131
length of summer is an external factor i'm talking about conditions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2024 14:25:26 No.2787159 Report

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>>2787132
Lol. Lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2024 14:34:41 No.2787409 Report

Quoted By: >>2787410 >>2787434

why are east coasters such coping fags
i live in the east, Appalachians are cool but the rockies obviously shit on them, its not even close

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2024 14:57:27 No.2787410 Report

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>>2787409
Nobody even talks about hiking in the appalachians here, at all, its weird

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2024 16:44:01 No.2787434 Report

Quoted By: >>2787473

>>2787409
Because West /out/ers only use 10% of their power to brag about their activities to gatekeep normoids. By handicapping the West by such a large amount east copers actually think their shitty crowded hills come close.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2024 16:57:33 No.2787435 Report

Quoted By: >>2787460

>>2786966
>written by the insect population

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2024 18:44:17 No.2787460 Report

Quoted By: >>2787597

>>2787435
the mosquitoes in northern WI are at least twice as bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2024 19:55:14 No.2787473 Report

Quoted By:

>>2787434
>crowded
only if ur doing a super popular trail on a weekend

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2024 07:45:23 No.2787597 Report

Quoted By: >>2787598

>>2787460
Good thing nobody thinks about northern WI when they think about going outdoors in America

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2024 08:26:30 No.2787598 Report

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>>2787597
maybe you don't you enormous normie faggot

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