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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2024 15:00:49 No.2797346 View View Reply Original Report

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>be me
>adult now, so i wanted to buy a good knife
>always wanted one since i was a kid. No money and time so i waited
>was going for a gerber but decided to do some research
>find an esse 4
>"wow that's an amazingly durable knife"
>buy on blade hq
>2 days later
>turns out the same knife can be made with 2 different steel
>didnt know this until now
>check the knife i saw on review
>it's s35v
>check mine
>it's 1095
>"Your order has been shipped"
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2024 15:13:00 No.2797349 Report

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>>2797346
/out/ - Outdoors?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2024 15:20:04 No.2797352 Report

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>>2797346
We live in the age of cheap fairly high quality steels. Some are better than others, but you can buy a beater knife for $30 today that will be higher quality than most that were used in the past centuries.

So I collect pocket knives because I like them but the reality is that as far as actually using them for things besides opening packages, I recommend getting a nice solid cheap fixed blade knife- and use it like a beater. You don't have to worry about breaking or losing it. And hey if you mess it up who really cares.

The two best knives I ever bought were 1. This little Ontario Knife sheeps-foot fixed blade that I've been using mostly like a little shovel for years now when I dig up plants. 2. This big giant goofy looking Cold Steel throwing style Bowie. It's just a big hunk of metal and it fits down in my boot well because it doesn't have a real handle. I abuse both of these knives- throw them at trees, etc etc. and I've yet to damage either of them seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2024 16:00:15 No.2797359 Report

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Knife faggots will disagree because they're hyper autists, but 1095 is the fucking goat.

Enjoy having a knife that actually works like a knife, and be a man and endure the mild discoloration of carbon. It will take 100 years to rot away even if you neglect it don't be such a woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2024 19:24:09 No.2797396 Report

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>>2797346
1095 is alright. The esee 4 is a shitty design, though. It's one of those "knives" that are designed on the assumption that the owner is a retard. Way to thick, with blunt angles on the adge so that even batoning or striking it against a nail won't break or chip it.
The only thing knives like that are good for are combat (where the extra rigidity means it'll also pierce leather jackets or thin kevlar) or using them as a prybar. For everything else, a 10$ Mora is far superior.
On the plus side, the flat handle, uncomfortable as it is, is way easier to conceal than the roundish handles most good knives have. That's actually the only reason I own an esee, it's the only blade that size that i know of that can be concealed easily.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2024 20:55:58 No.2797441 Report

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>>2797396
>Thick knives
>Combat
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 02:21:30 No.2797482 Report

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>>2797346
What's wrong with 1095?
Also you should have bought an esee 5.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 03:12:26 No.2797493 Report

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4 is a great choice, I went with 6. Dumb, barely used it, been a couple years now, just havnt bought another ESEE, because I can do everything I need with a smaller knife, and better, I like whittling.
>>2797482
1095 is a good carbon steel for outdoor use, in my opinion, just gotta oil it and not leave it in a puddle of salt water
ESEE 5 holy shit don't fall for the "sharpened pry bar" thing, like the becker bk2. If you want a knife, buy a knife, if you want a crowbar buy a crowbar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 03:51:03 No.2797501 Report

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>>2797482
The s35v makes the 1095 obsolete

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 03:59:15 No.2797504 Report

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>>2797493
Lol, lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 03:59:26 No.2797505 Report

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>>2797501
most knives/machetes that actually do work, are probably still made from leaf-springs off trucks from the 60s, or older

this whole knife steel wank just pisses me off

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 04:10:58 No.2797508 Report

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>>2797505
Himalayan imports Chiruwa Ang Khola.
Made out of a 1960's Mercedes leaf spring. I've processed more fire wood with this than my hatchet.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 04:32:01 No.2797515 Report

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Meme steel is just meme steel, it's objectively "better" but does absolutely fucking nothing that any half decent steel won't. 1095 will be just fine, it's a fucking knife, a chunk of metal sharpened enough to cut things you run into. It's going to spend 99.99% of it's life going unused, the majority of that last 0.01% will be tape/rope/other soft shit with the most challenging thing it should ever face being wood. Enjoy your tool, use it responsibly, take care of it, and it will outlast your grandchildren. Hell I carry pic related most of the time, $12 at Walmart, used up/broke/lost a half dozen of them over the years. Still nowhere near the cost of a "good" knife and I don't feel bad at all about abusing the fuck out of it because it's $12. Killed my last one using it to chip dried clay out of the disc.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 08:04:32 No.2797542 Report

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>>2797505
https://youtube.com/shorts/hxldYaKpGJk

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 10:42:53 No.2797548 Report

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If you need something more expensive than this i assume it will just be used for opening funko pop boxes from amazon

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Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k Tue 31 Dec 2024 14:31:56 No.2797563 Report

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>>2797346
S35V is the one they made for knife collectors. Originally all of their stuff was 1095 because it was a company associated with a survival school that wanted to make real outdoors survival knives. And the knife collectors found them and for yesrs the collectors were like “Why don’t you use supersteels?! We will pay whatever you ask!” So finally Esee did it because money is money and they can make more survival knives with the money they ripped off from the collectors. But when they released the supersteel knives, they made it explcitly clear that they are collector knives and not for real world use.

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Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k Tue 31 Dec 2024 15:16:49 No.2797569 Report

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>>2797563
>>2797346
>20CV Benchmade = Unused
>1095 Esees = Abused for years daily and still going strong

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 16:44:54 No.2797577 Report

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I noticed this on the Buck website lately.

There were a vast array of choices but once I'd made my fairytale dream knife, I noticed that it was made of a far lower grade steel than would be appopriate for such an accessorised end product. If you're not careful these companies will ship your knife with humdrum quality blades - make sure to specify.

If that Buck knife arrived at my door with the same blade as my £20 Boker (picrel) I would have shipped it right back the next day. That knife for the money is excellent and the mechanism is beautifully satisfying in its solidness as it opens/closes, but the Buck would have cost 5x more with the same steel.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 17:25:53 No.2797582 Report

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If anything this thread has convinced me to never buy an esee because eseeniggers are gay as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 17:43:12 No.2797585 Report

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>>2797346
>>check the knife i saw on review
>>it's s35v
>>check mine
>>it's 1095
You dodged a bullet. S35v is awesome in a pocket knife, but far too brittle for a beater knife like an ESEE 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 22:39:01 No.2797630 Report

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>>2797346
For an actual /out/ knife I prefer regular steels that aren't brittle and can be sharpened easily. Most high end steel is either brittle or takes an hour to sharpen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 23:13:49 No.2797636 Report

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Holy shit just get a Buck or a fixed blade.
>>2797630
This
>>2797582
Also this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2024 23:17:48 No.2797637 Report

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>>2797630
As an /out/ newbie, this. I like a knife that is OK but that I know I can beat the shit out of without remorse. Then I'll resharpen as needed, and when it's done for, it's done for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2025 01:43:40 No.2797656 Report

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if you are actually outside your knife will take abuse, it will take a beating and a good knife goes blunt just like a shit knife and both can be sharpened back up with a file and a rock.
knife material hardly matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2025 12:00:17 No.2797699 Report

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>>2797548
gardberg costs 100 usd now wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2025 13:09:45 No.2797702 Report

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>>2797441
>he doesn't know cotton uniforms are a thing of the past
Try taking that fairbairn-sykes and piercing through kevlar, or even just motorcycle protectors. Chances are it'll bend, or maybe even break.
Part of the reason why most armies switched to massive knives like the applegate-fairbairn, the glock 79 / 81 or the KM2000.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2025 13:56:58 No.2797704 Report

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I just use the Mora companion heavy duty in carbon steel.

The last one I bought cost me £18 and has lasted me 5 years so far? The best thing about Moras is they're really good fucking knives for a low cost so you don't mind breaking them. I'm somewhat ambivalent about knives and while I enjoy using them I don't really want to put lots of extra effort into maintaining one or being extra careful when using it.

Its a tool and it's going to get the shit beat out of it. If I spent hundreds on a knife, I wouldn't want to put it to heavy use. My moras, I beat the hell out of them and enjoy doing so.

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