>>2836366Back to plebbit, larper. If you could do half of that, you wouldn't be indebted.
And for all the kiddos reading this thread and now considering suicide: It's not that hard. I live halfway off the land myself, and know a lot of guys doing the same, and we've all gone through more or less the same steps:
>finish school, get some further educationuniversity in my case (high IQ and scholarship, would've been stupid not to), but most did tradie stuff where they got paid for learning.
>lived with grandparents, or in some cases, parents for the first few years while earning starting money>buy beehives, woodland, orchards or grassland, or a combination thereof, then make some money on the side from thatIt's not much, especially while working, but having 200€ or so extra a month gets you a bit further, and more importantly, any food you harvest yourself, you don't have to buy.
>at 25-30, buy a house with a large garden, usually from grandparents (or their heirs, if they've already died), sometimes friends, and in one case a coworker of mine helped some old guy with houserepairs a few times, and then got that guys house for 1€ shortly before his death, just so the kids who'd neglected him wouldn't get itGenerally in the hinterlands, where houses are cheaper - in my case, I got a bit lucky, and by next year (once the inheritance stuff is settled), can buy my dead grandmas farm right at the edge of the forest, where all the tourists go.
>at this point, some debt is to be expected, but it's usually at a level where it can be paid off in 5 years or so, and you've already got a house, large garden, and the farming / logging operation you started earlier. Pay off the debt, while increasing the size of your farming. If like me, you're in a tourist area, consider renting for some extra cashBy 35 at the latest, you can be independent, and fully living of the land.
My current situation (29yo):
20 beehives, ~3k€ per year
23 fruit trees
10 chickens
5000m2 garden
