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Homegrowmen (Farming and Gardening) Thread #11

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:12:07 No.296781 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:12:53 No.296782 Report

Quoted By: >>300979

>>296781
US Farm Income and Taxes,
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx

US Grants and Loans for Small Farms,
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml

Managing Risks on Your Small Farm,
http://agmarketing.extension.psu.edu/begfrmrs/MangRiskSmllFrm.pdf

Chicken info and forum,
http://www.backyardchickens.com

Rabbit guide
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7884798/Rabbit_Production_Manual

A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental,
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm

Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/

Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requies filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/

Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC, (frost dates, temp zones, etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php

Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:18:19 No.296785 Report

Quoted By: >>296794 >>296798 >>297123 >>297124

1) Someone should fix piratebay links in the copypasta. It's .se now not .sx

2) I have a quick question. I want to plant my garden at the bottom of a hill where, when it rains, it gets really muddy to the point where you can see puddles on the ground. This happens mostly because we seeded our lawn before winter and now we have no grass until it warms up again. Is planting my garden where it gets really wet/muddy a good idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:24:19 No.296794 Report

Quoted By: >>296799

>>296785
Probably a bad idea, as that means your gonna have drainage issues.

Maybe you should look into making something along the lines of a terrace garden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:29:47 No.296798 Report

Quoted By: >>296801

>>296785
>1) Someone should fix piratebay links in the copypasta. It's .se now not .sx

I wish they'd stop switching so much. lol

>2)

Bad idea. 1, it can wash away seeds, 2 mold and fungi problems like crazy. You can curb this by mounding up, using raised beds, terracing, etc. That will keep the plant roots and tuber above the saturation zone so they won't rot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:29:49 No.296799 Report

Quoted By: >>296800

>>296794
I thought so, unfortunately the hill I'm on isn't steep enough to do a terraced garden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:31:02 No.296800 Report

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>>296799
Any slope can be terraced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:31:58 No.296801 Report

Quoted By: >>296804

>>296798
A raised bed is a good idea, I don't have much money but they're building houses near me so I can just take some wood they throw in the garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:31:59 No.296802 Report

Quoted By: >>296833 >>296951 >>297135 >>297332 >>300645 >>300657 >>300669

wut u growin this year?

lemon balm
lavender
tobacco
basil
parsley
chives
chamomile
spearmint

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:34:27 No.296804 Report

Quoted By: >>296807 >>296951

>>296801
That can work. Just try not to use treated lumber. It'll have a green tint to it. Also, a raised bed can be something like a "hugelkultur" where it is made from dead fall from and wooded lot. Just mounding up dirt and planting on the top will work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 00:37:49 No.296807 Report

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>>296804
I could definitely do a mound as well, I'll just have to see if I can get any lumber otherwise. Thanks for the ideas, I appreciate it.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 01:20:13 No.296833 Report

Quoted By: >>296835

>>296802
Tomato
Cucumber
Beans a plenty
Yellow Sqaush
Corn
Watermelon
Canteloupe
Blackberries
Various Herbs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 01:21:16 No.296835 Report

Quoted By: >>296836

>>296833
oh yeah and 4 kinds of peppers

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Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 01:22:50 No.296836 Report

Quoted By: >>296859

>>296835
also potatos.

first time with those...so far so good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 02:12:57 No.296859 Report

Quoted By: >>297049 >>297136

>>296836
potatoes seem difficult

how long do they take to grow

Anonymous

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Please ID an Unknown Plant that appeared in my backyard

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 03:39:32 No.296914 Report

Quoted By: >>296916 >>297134 >>297941 >>298027

Can someone please ID this plant for me? It appeared out of nowhere in my backyard and the dogs killed the grass so I have no idea how this got there. It kind of looks like a raspberry but doesn't have the serrated/'sharp' looking leaf edges so I don't know what it could be or where it might have came from since the grass is all dead and nothing was ever planted in this spot except grass over a decade a go that died.

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ID this Mystery Plant

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 03:45:08 No.296916 Report

Quoted By: >>297941 >>298027

>>296914
Here is another image of it from a different angle, hopefully someone can ID this plant! (other image here: >>296914)

The leaves on the unknown plant in my yard are somewhat serrated/pointy like a raspberry or blackberry but it doesn't have enough serrations (raspberries have much more sharp/pointy edges on the leaves) nor does it have a spiny stem or canes (both blackberries and raspberries have this) so I have no idea what it is or how it got there. The new leaves forming do look light green/brown just like new forming leaves on raspberries and blackberries so I'm confused at what it could be. I don't know if I should kill it or dig it out now and save it before the roots get deeper and it would be settled into its position. I want to start a raspberry patch and this would be a welcome addition if infact it is a raspberry that mysteriously came from somewhere. I'm starting seed now for 4 raspberries and have space for a 5th... Also, if it IS a raspberry, its a good sign that the soil bed for muh raspberry patch doesn't need to be worked too much if there is another one already growing.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 03:46:32 No.296917 Report

Quoted By: >>296918

posted this in /diy/ Idk if it belonged there, advice appreciated

>>>620105

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Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 03:47:33 No.296918 Report

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>>296917

bah

>>>/diy/620105

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 05:03:03 No.296951 Report

Quoted By: >>296954 >>297108 >>297133

>>296804
Why does everybody shy away from treated lumber? They don't use arsenic to treat it any longer.

>>296802
>wut u growin this year?

>garden at my house
>@ 1200 square feet
peaches and cream corn
golden bantam corn
blue jade corn
5 kinds of tomatoes
zucchini
yellow squash
jalapenos
fish pepper
5 kinds of sweet pepper
yellow onions
okra
ground cherries
cucumber
watermelon
snap peas
black-eyed peas
green beans
two kinds of dry beans
peanuts
celery
spinach
lettuce

>garden in the corner of my in-law's field
>@1500 sq feet
bloody butcher corn
Oaxacan green dent corn
black Aztec corn
Indian corn off a couple ears I got different places that sold as decoration
more blue jade corn
pumpkins
more peanuts

We'll cut down on varieties of corn and tomato next year. This year is an experiment to see which heirloom varieties yield better because I'm tired of buying seed, tired of the weaknesses hybrids have regarding insects and mold, and I want to grow some interesting-looking food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 05:06:41 No.296954 Report

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>>296951
And sweet potatoes and a couple kinds of red potatoes at home. Gonna be busy. It's too bad I'm a teacher and won't have all summer to look after all this garden unimpeded. Oh, wait...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 10:17:45 No.297049 Report

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>>296859
Mine are growing very slow right now, I'm not sure but I think it is because we are having cooler weather

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 13:06:30 No.297108 Report

Quoted By: >>297200

>>296951
you should be growing and stocking up on heirloom seeds anyway in case of impending nuclear holocaust

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 13:59:09 No.297116 Report

Quoted By: >>297126

How long do those damned pepper seeds take before I can finally see a root?
I think it's my third day and they're in a moist paper towel inside a sandwich bag being kept around 30 degrees celcius.

Maybe I should have started with tomato seeds which take like 2 days with paper towel method

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 14:21:21 No.297123 Report

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>>296785
you could plant things like bananas or maybe rice too because they enjoy being flooded
maybe a few other trees or something would work there but for the most part plants like to dry up a bit before getting soaked again so most probably wouldnt do super well there

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 14:23:00 No.297124 Report

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>>296785
you could grow some native wild edible plants there, im sure that would work theyre generally a LOT more hardy than cultivated plants and dont require soil preparation really
things like passion fruit vines would probably work if you had a fence and im sure tons of other stuff too but not really sure of your area/climate so cant say

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 14:24:36 No.297126 Report

Quoted By: >>297186

>>297116
i have had peppers take over 20 days to sprout in the ground so no worries
as long as the paper towel isnt too flooded or cold it should do fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 14:31:21 No.297133 Report

Quoted By:

>>296951
not to mention arsenic occurs naturally in soil and water

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 14:32:23 No.297134 Report

Quoted By:

>>296914
looks like lamb quarters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 14:33:42 No.297135 Report

Quoted By:

>>296802
a little bit of everything really

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 14:35:22 No.297136 Report

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>>296859
like 2 months or so ish? maybe a bit more
theyre really easy to grow and will grow in pretty much anything

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 15:47:33 No.297153 Report

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>tfw when a bunch of pepper seeds you believed to be dead sprout

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 16:00:59 No.297155 Report

Quoted By: >>297161 >>297167

So I was going to give square foot gardening a try but vermiculite is fucking expensive where I live. Do I really need it or could I just use straight compost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 16:11:46 No.297161 Report

Quoted By: >>297165

>>297155
i have never used vermiculite, rock dust, etc
i think its a waste of money
just compost i make myself with some manure and seaweed for me
oh and some composted leaves and a bit of sand in the mix too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 16:18:46 No.297165 Report

Quoted By: >>297169

>>297161
What ratio of compost to sand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 16:19:52 No.297167 Report

Quoted By:

>>297155
you can save alot of money by making your own compost and getting free manure from local farmers
just about everything you need you can get for free
oh dont forget to use egg shells for calcium(also crushed eggshells around plants will deter slugs and snails and what not
birds also enjoy ground egg shells

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 16:21:36 No.297169 Report

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>>297165
only maybe 1/5th sand id say but mostly compost and manure for the mix
i mainly just use sand for a bit of drainage and to lessen the amount of compost and manure id need per foot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 17:00:16 No.297186 Report

Quoted By: >>297196

>>297126
It's like 30 degrees celcius all day long.

They're also supposed to be one of the fastest growing peppers (hot portugal) but I'll see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 17:22:32 No.297196 Report

Quoted By: >>297198

>>297186
most peppers will come up within a week or 2 but hot peppers can take up to a month to germinate, they do grow fast once they sprout though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 17:28:32 No.297198 Report

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>>297196
With paper towel method it's supposed to go much faster though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 17:44:39 No.297200 Report

Quoted By: >>297209

>>297108
Mainly screwed in the event of major problem anyhow , my wife takes meds that require more synthesis than you can do at home. I'm just a cheap bastard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 18:01:14 No.297209 Report

Quoted By: >>297215

>>297200
>297200
>thinking you need medicine thats patented so big businesses can make a profit off of you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 18:10:07 No.297215 Report

Quoted By: >>297228

>>297209
But she can't walk after a few days without it. Copaxone is genuinely a miracle drug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 18:31:43 No.297228 Report

Quoted By: >>297241 >>297261

>>297215
its a good thing the medical mafia makes people believe they needed a patented "medicine" that nobody can else produce when there is medicine literally everywhere you walk free for the pickings
plants are medicine not some pill made by big businesses who make billions every year off of killing people(see 100k adverse pill reaction deaths a year in the US alone)
and by the way, there is much better things to use than copaxone which has a laundry list of side effects(yes, contrary to what your doctor will tell you there is natural ways to go about fixing problems other than taking a pill that will only cause other problems later on and that will only cover the symptoms not the underlying causes and actually eradicate the problem)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:02:39 No.297241 Report

Quoted By: >>297244

>>297228
People who believe in homeopathy are right up there with the anti-vaccination people. Batshit insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:13:33 No.297244 Report

Quoted By: >>297256 >>297265

>>297241
Yes because humans haven't thrived for thousands of years without vaccines and synthetic pills...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:17:40 No.297248 Report

Quoted By:

Tips for direct sowing? I tried starting indoors and I was doing fucking great for a while. Not sure if they got root bound, under watered or overwatered but I fucked up, sadly.

Also is growing a tomato 100% indoors under like two (?) 60 watt (equivalent) CFLs crazy or will it work fairly well you think? Thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:34:48 No.297256 Report

Quoted By: >>297260

>>297244
Less infants die and more people live longer now than in any other time in history because of medicine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:41:41 No.297260 Report

Quoted By: >>297264

>>297256
Maybe that's part of life? It makes more sense than people living longer but with more incidence of degenerative diseases...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:42:55 No.297261 Report

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>>297228
Copaxone is injected. It's a drug that suppresses specific antibodies. Can't do that with an herb. Multiple sclerosis was, until twenty or so years ago, a sure sentence of slow, painful death by suffocation. That's no longer true. There's never been an effective homeopathic treatment. We did research before we went the hundred dollar a day drug route. We had a week with daily steroid IVs to look around and see. The type she has is Devic's disease, which attacks the optic nerve in addition to the usual brain sclera. It's nasty. 40% of people diagnosed with it are blind within 4 years, with a similar percentage confined to a wheelchair. Those overlap a bit, but that's still bad. We treated it forcefully and proactively and intend to keep doing so. She's two years in and her sclera have actually abated somewhat.

TL;DR: natural cures were great when they exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:46:07 No.297264 Report

Quoted By: >>297326

>>297260
>get cut, rub leaves on it, die
>get cut, take a pill, live

I mean... I know what option I'd choose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:47:34 No.297265 Report

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>>297244
>thrived

That's correct. Humans have never thrived nor lived so long in such overall good health as we do today. Germ theory and synthetic drugs have as much to do with that as better farming techniques.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 19:53:39 No.297267 Report

Quoted By:

>Mfw the snow is taking forever to melt here in Ontario
>Mfw it will be at least another two weeks before I can plant anything because of all the melting snow and mud

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 21:14:04 No.297302 Report

Quoted By:

Seed arrived in the mail today, but nobody was home to get it so I'll have to go pick it up at the post office tomorrow. Will sow most of it on Good Friday. What plants do you homegrowmen like to start indoors? I usually just plant seed, but I'm willing to experiment with a few seed since I have more than I have room for.

I'm thinking tomatoes and hot peppers, maybe watermelon.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 21:32:52 No.297309 Report

Quoted By: >>297489

>>296781
Swedish homegrowman here.
Currently growing:
>honey melon
>water melon
>cherry tomato
>physalis
>cucumber
>squash
Pre-planted indoors in nursing pots. Honey melons didn't get their seed shells off the stem fast enough, and it was too moist so the tip of them started to mold and they're kind of half dead. Water melon hasn't sprouted yet, cherry tomato is going fine, physalis hasn't shown a single sign of life, and cucumber and squash are growing like crazy. I'm worried I planted them too early cause they're about to grow out of their pots.

I'm thinking of ordering some "tasmanian" strand poppy for poppy (opium) tea. Anyone got experiences with this? (Yes I know making tea of it is illegal, whatever I'll drink my relaxing tea if I want to)

Also will post some pics tomorrow...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 21:56:37 No.297326 Report

Quoted By:

>>297264
Get a cut, dont rub leaves on it, live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 22:03:48 No.297332 Report

Quoted By: >>297432

>>296802
First timer here I'm growing the basics to get me started into understanding gardening.

Cucumbers
Jalapenos
Habaneros
Serranos
Lettuces
Onions
Spinach
Cilantro

Flowers:

Zannias
Sunflowers
Chamomile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 22:37:52 No.297366 Report

Quoted By: >>297427

I inherited a massive herb garden but am a noob at growing anything, yes, even succulents. I suck that much. So please help me out here:
1) Some of the rosemary leaves are blackened at the tips. I looked it up and it said that the glasshouse may not be humid enough, however, it is. It says it needs little watering and does well in the sun, but I watered it and sprayed the leaves as the ground was a little dry, so it can't be that either. What's the leaf rot from?
2) The thyme bush has some sprigs that are sad and wilted away. Is this normal? It doesn't seem to be soaking in water almost at all and the soil is very moist.
3) Do I water the plants when the soil is dry or is there a schedule? I've been doing that with all of them and most seem to be doing okay.
4) How often should you give them plant food/fertilizer/whatever?
Sorry for the dumb questions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2014 23:21:54 No.297402 Report

Quoted By: >>297426

Hello /out/. I'm designing a floating dock to grow plants on the surface of my pond, and so far the only water-loving root plant I've thought about growing is sweet potatoes. Are there any other plants I could consider, other than grass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 00:00:49 No.297426 Report

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>>297402
sea purslane, lotus flower, wapato, certain cannas, etc
oh cattail and bulrush help clean the water and will remove unwanted heavy metals and other toxins

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 00:04:07 No.297427 Report

Quoted By: >>297431

>>297366
stick your index finger halfway into the soil, if it comes out damp then leave it and if it comes out dry then water it a little bit
also i give my plants a layer of compost and/or manure every 3 months or so for trees and every month or so for regular plants
compost tea is nice if you want a water based fertilizer and real easy to make too
oh plants will naturally wilt on hotter days to protect themselves a lot of the time, dont use that as an indicator to water your plants or you might rot them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 00:06:51 No.297431 Report

Quoted By: >>297469

>>297427
meant to add that plants that wilt during the heat of the day will uncurl/stop drooping at night and early morning when its cooler out so dont be worried if you see your plants drooping in the heat sometimes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 00:10:44 No.297432 Report

Quoted By: >>297846

>>297332
One thing to remember is that your peppers will cross with each other. It won't make a difference in this year's crop, but next year might see some hella hot jalapenos.

Evil protip: grow one sweet pepper in the middle of a bunch of hot peppers. Save the sweet pepper seeds. The plants the next year should look like sweet peppers but be hot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 01:16:51 No.297469 Report

Quoted By:

>>297431
Okay, thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 01:36:55 No.297481 Report

Quoted By:

>>293618
>So I should try these grocery store seeds?
Yes, you have nothing to loose and I'd be surprised if you didn't get any good sprouts out of the bunch.

>I've watched a lot of cacti growing guides. This guy planted seeds and then sealed the pot in a bag to conserve humidity. He then had to slowly open it day by day a month later or something. I'm guessing this applies to all cacti?

Keeping them sealed does help a lot with getting them to germinate quickly and really cut down on moisture loss issues. That said, this slow process of unsealing/resealing by increments seems a bit overboard. In the greenhouse we kept them covered until they were just about pressing against the glass (so call it 3/8" to 1/2" tall). From there they were replanted in cactus mix soil (made in house) and set on greenhouse benches.

On of the harder parts of keeping the cactus alive when young is NOT over watering them. Watering once a week to once every two weeks seemed to be a decent regime when they got more established.

Fair warning, most desert cactus are kinda slow growing. That said, opuntia are one of the faster ones.

Sorry for the late reply

Anonymous

TO HELP US ID....

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 01:51:20 No.297485 Report

Quoted By: >>297687 >>298027

1) Make sure to provide a good picture, clear, in focus, with decent lighting. INCLUDE A REFERENCE OBJECT OF KNOWN SIZE (pen, paperclip, coin, small ruler would be awesome!)

2) Tell us the GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION you are taking the picture from. For best results include country, state/province, and even city/town/village.

3) Tell us the ENVIRONMENT you found it in. Was it in a farmer's field, growing through the sidewalk cracks, on the South slope of a desert mountain in a riparian area?

4) Include any information your picture fails to convey. Has it flowered with pink flowers since your picture was taken? Does it have milky sap? Did it try to eat your family pet?

5) Be patient! Not every one here is a professional botanist or horticulturist. Most of us are hobbyists doing the best we can. If your question goes unanswered in one thread, feel free to post it in the next HomeGrown thread. Heck, you might even want to start your own thread to get more exposure on the catalog.

We get that you can't always include all this information, but the more you can give us the better we can help with an ID.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 02:00:07 No.297489 Report

Quoted By: >>298574

>>297309
Don't bother with the Tasmanian strain. If you're ordering a genuine Tasmanian/Norman strain then you're most likely going to get the version that produces mainly thebaine and almost no codeine or morphine.
Just stick to your regular Turkish/Afghan poppy, those will make you nice and happy.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 13:38:22 No.297686 Report

Quoted By: >>297687 >>297869 >>298001

how about this one? its some type of wild pea from the northern florida area, gets maybe 2 feet high and vine around on eachother like that
just wanting to know if anyone knows the species and if possible if theyre edible or not
oh these grow next to side sidewalks in the grass and stuff like that just about everywhere really
it has tiny pink pea shaped flowers, il try to see if i can maybe get a better pic later

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 13:39:30 No.297687 Report

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>>297485
meant for this post
>>297686
also here is 1 more pic a little closer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 14:27:54 No.297703 Report

Quoted By: >>298158

I posted in the last thread, I'm the guy who's gonna try to keep his aquaponics system going in the winter by partially burying his fish tank.
So, for all you aquaponics veterans out there, what species of fish do you recommend that I start with? I was thinking of Rainbow Trout or maybe American Eels, but I admit that I am not an ichthyologist. Any obvious problems with these or suggestions for cold water fish that do well in aquaponics systems?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 18:41:53 No.297846 Report

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>>297432
Thanks for the tip, hotter is always better. Can't wait to make some mango-habanero and chipotle-serrano salsas, the ones I've seen last up to 6 months with the adequate preservatives like citric acid and benzoate. I tried finding piquin seeds for dried grounded chili spice but didn't find any, oh well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 19:12:51 No.297869 Report

Quoted By: >>297986

>>297686
hey i know, ok this is going to sound crazy but, what you should do, its take the pod with the larges peas and plant those then keep doing that every season, then take pics and watch it grow over time

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 19:40:05 No.297886 Report

Quoted By: >>297888 >>297895 >>298049

My odd shaped tomato.

I started growing it in late autumn (late oc/early nov). Live in socal so it probably went dormant a bit during winter months but nothing too harsh, maybe slight frost at night.

I wonder why it grew so odd and not round. I just picked two tiny ones that turned red. Then this one turned red. Also picked two green ones off the vine because it seemed like they were getting a hole on the bottom. Probably inconsistent watering and not lack of calcium which would make the bottom brown.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 19:41:14 No.297888 Report

Quoted By: >>297889 >>297895

>>297886

small hole on the bottom :(

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 19:42:38 No.297889 Report

Quoted By: >>297890 >>297895 >>298049

>>297888

two green ones I picked, will let ripe on the vine but only because one is developing hole on the bottom

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 19:44:24 No.297890 Report

Quoted By: >>297895 >>298049

>>297889

left one has some kind of hole

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 19:47:14 No.297895 Report

Quoted By:

>>297886
>>297888
>>297889
>>297890

My first year growing tomatoes. Even the 5 gallon nursery pot is too small to produce decent sized tomatoes. Still need to invest in some big fabric pots and potting soil.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 20:55:03 No.297940 Report

Quoted By: >>297941 >>298027

It is not a Chenopodium I eat that plant all the time and it is herbacious (no woody stem even at maturity).
The plant you have there looks like a black walnut sprout they pop up in my garden once and a while. It would explain why the grass isn't growing back. To check you can pull one up and see if the walnut is still on the roots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 20:56:41 No.297941 Report

Quoted By: >>298210

>>296914
>>296916
Forgot the hyper.
>>297940

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 21:37:58 No.297986 Report

Quoted By:

>>297869
i would if i knew for sure if it was edible or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 21:56:01 No.298001 Report

Quoted By: >>298013

>>297686
I want to say its something in the Astragalus genus, but there are just so damned many plants in the legume family that it aint funny. Are there any technical colleges (A&Ms) or county extension offices in the area? I know that many around the nation are pretty good about hosting online information about local flora.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 22:19:37 No.298013 Report

Quoted By: >>298025

>>298001
oh i know theres so many varieties its ridiculous, and i havent really had any luck searching online
the only ones ive found are the cow pea and mimosa unfortunately and its neither

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 22:34:18 No.298025 Report

Quoted By: >>298029

>>298013
was researching it a bit more and id have to say its a type of lathyrus, now only if i could find out which

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 22:38:32 No.298027 Report

Quoted By: >>298033

>>297940
Hi. I am the poster of >>296914 & >>296916. I was worried and horrified that it might be poison ivy the next day and then realized that it was a good thing that I didn't touch it. I still don't know what it is though... Your plant looks more like my mystery plant. Also, the reason why the grass isn't growing back is because my parents have idiotic dogs which they let take a piss or shit anywhere on the backyard grass and its been a good 6 or 7 years since they had them, hence no grass.

Do you know how it might have gotten there? Nobody in my family eats walnuts. I want to dig it up after I can safely confirm it isn't anything poisonous. If it is a raspberry, I need to dig it up ASAP and put it in a temporary 1 gal container while I prepare the soil for my soon-to-be raspberry patch. I'm starting them from seeds and have space for one more plant which could potentially be the mystery plant if its a berry plant.

>>297485
2. 10A/Southern California/Los Angeles County/Suburban about 10 miles south of the mountains.
3. Backyard
4. No spines or thorns (hence my worry that it might be poison ivy), new and appeared within 1 to 1.5 months (it was not there before that approx. amount of time). It was NOT planted and came from somewhere or something unknown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 22:39:43 No.298029 Report

Quoted By: >>298039

>>298025
aha! i think its vicia sativa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 22:43:52 No.298033 Report

Quoted By: >>298056

>>298027
my dogs shit and piss everywhere in my yard and it only makes things grow better, weird? they even shit around my fruit trees once in a while and it doesnt bother them
also i doubt it is poison ivy, poison ivy is usually in leaves of 3 not 5
just give it a touch poison ivy isnt that bad, theres plenty of wild plants you can use like wild plantain(or things like aloe vera) that will take away the burn really quick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 22:57:04 No.298039 Report

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>>298029
>tfw i find out its probably only edible in small amounts but im conflicted though because there are really no recorded cases of poisoning other than maybe some cattle that ate a bunch
it says the leaves young shoots and seeds and young pods are edible cooked but it also tells me that they might contain toxins like the lathyrus plants so idk
it is a nitrogen fixer though so i guess thats good, maybe il find a use for it somewhere in the garden
if anyone has more information on this plants edibility/toxicity id appreciate it

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 23:12:48 No.298046 Report

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can anyone id this? it looks really similar to chickweed(has pretty much the same growing habits and size too) but its not the same as regular chickweed, its hairier and the flower is slightly different
florida again btw

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Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 23:33:06 No.298049 Report

Quoted By:

>>297890
>>297889
>>297886
Those are perfectly normal "holes" for tomatoes. Leave them to get ripe and eat as normal.

>I wonder why it grew so odd and not round.

Because the industrial food industry has brainwashed you into thinking they need to be round. I've never in my life seen a round tomato outside a grocery store.

This is why some people freak-the-fuck-out when they see some heirloom varieties of tomatoes in person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 23:33:32 No.298050 Report

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I'm trying out new peppers and currently trying to get them to germinate. They're in a tupperware container with a wet napkin. The container is sitting on a heat mat.

The seeds are slowly turning black one by one. I've never had this before. I'm doing the same thing to another pepper sprain and they look like they're about to sprout.

Maybe I just got a bad batch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Apr 2014 23:39:12 No.298056 Report

Quoted By: >>298083

>>298033
It (was) St. Augustine grass when it was alive. Dog piss releases tons of Nitrogen which is very bad for grass. After some time, they stopped caring and stopped using the sprinklers. That, coupled with the Southern California heat/blazing summers is probably what ultimately did the grass in. Watch out with the dog shit though... dogs have parasitic worms there so it could potentially be bad for your citrus crops in the long run.

My mystery plant and also poison ivy have 3 leaves as well so I freaked out. However, the 3 leaves seem to be on different stems except for the new shoots coming from the center where the 3 look like they come from the same one so that scared the fuck out of me thinking it might be poison ivy. When I get back home, I'll take another picture of it again.

I don't have insurance and get very bad reactions to insect bites and plants so I really can't afford to touch it, nor want to suffer the consequences of that especially knowing it might be something serious waiting in the wings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 00:47:52 No.298083 Report

Quoted By: >>298133

>>298056
theyve been doing it everywhere for many years and ive never had a problem, it dries up and breaks down really quickly here with all the heat and humidity plus lots of rain
maybe something will happen 1 day but i will have to deal with it because its an open yard and im not about to follow them around all day cleaning up crap
and sorry lol i thought i saw 5 and yeah thats true about the reactions, i hear there is some people who arent affected by poison ivy too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:47:18 No.298104 Report

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Going to do smart pots this year, 5 gallon. So what should I fill them with? My city offers free compost, is there any recipes in which I could utilize compost with other ingredients (to improve aeration) for smart pots? Thanks guys!

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:49:09 No.298133 Report

Quoted By: >>298143 >>298148

Another picture of the mystery plant in my yard (Southern California, Zone 10A, 10 miles south of the mountains, in a suburb, plant appeared in my backyard one day about 1 month-1.5 months ago, I 'thought' it was/is a raspberry or blackberry and think it might be poison ivy so I'm scared to touch it but if it is a berry, I want to dig it up and retransplant it to a 1gal pot temporarily as I prepare the soil nearby for a berry patch I am starting soon [currently waiting on 4 raspberry seeds to grow indoors]). I noticed there is another one growing about 2 feet (0.6 meters) away from it.

>>298083
Your dogs might have a special diet where their urine might not affect the lawn as drastically but it CAN cause damage (c.f.: www.ext.colostate.edu/mg/Gardennotes/553.html & http://solutionsforyourlife.ufl.edu/hot_topics/lawn_and_garden/dogs_and_lawns.shtml) Also, dog shit is toxic and carries a pretty big & nasty variety of worms (c.f.: http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_toxic_dog_waste.asp) just looking out for you and the citrus crops as well as anyone who eats em.

I know I'm allergic to bee stings and have bad reactions to bites and rashes so I'm not taking any chances if infact this is poison ivy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:20:24 No.298143 Report

Quoted By: >>298149 >>298153

>>298133
i wouldnt imagine that it would be a berry plant unless its maybe a solanum species, there is a few edibles of those(american nightshade etc) but most youd want to avoid
also blackberries and raspberries general have lots of thorns

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:48:02 No.298148 Report

Quoted By: >>298153

>>298133
it's not a blackberry/strawberry/blueberry/raspberry and it's not poison ivy/oak/sumac but it DOES have an awful lot of trichomes so it might irritate you. In fact it kinda looks like a kind of nettle, only I've never seen a nettle with leaves so spread out/sparse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:48:06 No.298149 Report

Quoted By: >>298345 >>298346

>>298143
Solanum is too big of a species. Got a suffix or a common name for it? I know nightshade plants shouldn't be planted near my future raspberries because they can get a potential virus that would wipe out my raspberries and the nightshade family plants.

It might be possible that its a 'thornless' berry but even then, the fact that the leaves aren't as serrated/sharp-pointed like most berry leaves have, scares the fuck out of me thinking that it might be poison ivy. Its way too hard and confusing for me to ID it as poison ivy and I spent 2-3 hours looking it up but it looks SO similar to a berry that I gave up trying that route.

Another thing I'm thinking is that because it is so young, is it possible that if it is a berry plant that isn't a thornless variety, would it be possible that it grows thorns when it matures later on?

Heres a picture of a raspberry plant with its leaves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:01:18 No.298153 Report

Quoted By: >>299083

>>298148
Heres a picture of the second one I found today, a few steps away from the other one. I don't think this one was there last week (or maybe up to 2 weeks ago) so it seems to be growing awfully fast.

How sure are you it isn't poison ivy/oak/sumac? If its not that, I guess its safe to let live. I don't know if its invasive or if its a nightshade plant like >>298143 has mentioned and if that is true, it could potentially be dangerous to my berry patch which will grow about 10 feet (3 meters) away so I'd need to kill/remove/retransplant these things.

AquaponicsAnon

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AquaponicsAnon Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:13:03 No.298158 Report

Quoted By: >>298267

>>297703
>tfw no aquaponics bros
>tfw even on /out/ it's uncommon
>tfw in subarctic area so fish and plant choices are super limited
>tfw no one to tell you how to join two IBCs
>tfw nobody to teach you about Carp and Crappie and Trout and Eels
>tfw no one to introduce you to duckweed and multiple-species tanks
>tfw you have to learn everything by yourself and you're scared of fucking it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:27:30 No.298166 Report

Quoted By: >>298169

One of my plants was hidden in the back and I guess I managed to not water it 2 days in a row. It looks like it took a severe beating. Its leaves are crusty brown around the edges. It's still standing.

I just gave it lots of water. What are the chances that it's already too late?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:42:06 No.298169 Report

Quoted By:

>>298166
we need to see pictures. i saved a tomato plant from death twice and one was severe wilting. don't give it too much water but lets see what ya got.... also what kind of plant is it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 06:37:07 No.298210 Report

Quoted By:

>>297941
Squirrels eat them... and plant them.... It's pretty simple.... Not to be mean but I really wonder if any of you have been outside sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 11:40:29 No.298267 Report

Quoted By: >>298321

>>298158
Don't sweat it. Fuck-ups are correctable, and anything that's as simple-sounding yet actually complicated as aquaponics is going to have a learning curve.

>Don't give names to your first set of fish.

On that note, Tinyfin died last night. We had placed several minnows in our turtle's tank last spring, and two had survived the turtle's appetite. My son named them Tinyfin and Bigfin. Tinyfin's fins were floating yesterday. The rest of him was apparently inside the turtle. Kids were sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 14:17:51 No.298300 Report

Quoted By: >>298315 >>298351 >>298354

I'm having trouble with ant nests forming at the base of my corn. I'm almost feeling to uproot the corn and treat the area with something but I have no idea how to deal with this.

I have no ant deterrents and while there are a lot of natural methods I'm not sure if doing something like spraying boiled pepper water would irritate the corn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 15:16:37 No.298315 Report

Quoted By: >>298351 >>298526

>>298300
Cover the area in diatomaceous earth, might help. Won't hurt the plants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 15:39:04 No.298321 Report

Quoted By: >>298349 >>298380 >>298436

>>298267
CAN YOU DO AQUAPONICS WITH TURTLES??
or is that just for fun?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:44:02 No.298345 Report

Quoted By:

>>298149
maybe solanum nigrum or solanum americanum, just wait til it goes to flower to see, its bound to soon enough
il include a pic of the oak/ivy/sumac so you can compare
also keep in mind not all sumacs are poison theres a type that makes a really nice flavor drink called staghorn sumac

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:47:32 No.298346 Report

Quoted By:

>>298149
it might be poison ivy, there is some lookalikes though so i cant really say for sure unless i see the flower or fruit or seed etc
best thing to do with leaves of 3 is to leave them unless you can verify that its edible
ivy will have weird leaves sometimes too(almost like sassafras)
you can see in my pic the bottom 2 leaves almost look like mittens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:49:05 No.298347 Report

Quoted By: >>298352

I hate those damned pepper seeds, I don't know if they're duds and they take way longer than all the other seeds to germinate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:52:12 No.298349 Report

Quoted By: >>298395

>>298321
id imagine so, you have to remember to give them a bank with some sand to come up to so they can lay eggs and bury them though
they come up near my house every year and its just awesome so its good to have them id suppose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:53:41 No.298351 Report

Quoted By: >>298526

>>298300
pepper wont hurt plants, you can also use soap diluted with water and a few other things you can use too
>>298315
dont do this unless you want to kill all the good bugs too
you can also encourage native predators to eat the ants

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:54:48 No.298352 Report

Quoted By: >>298360

>>298347
i know that feel
>tfw not knowing if you should replant or not
i hate wasting days but sometimes theres no other way around it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:56:13 No.298354 Report

Quoted By: >>298356 >>298526

>>298300
oh you can also crush egg shells and they will deter things like ants, snails, slugs etc because its like crawling over shards of glass pretty much

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:57:15 No.298356 Report

Quoted By:

>>298354
crush egg shells around the base of your plants*
also egg shells are slow release calcium so win win

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 17:00:24 No.298360 Report

Quoted By:

>>298352
I'm using the paper towel method for the first time.
I thought they would have been germinated after 5 days but I guess not

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 17:25:07 No.298373 Report

Quoted By:

about how many pounds (approximation+-25) of wheat grains could i grow on a 18x3(4?) area?

google was no help

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 17:47:02 No.298380 Report

Quoted By: >>298387 >>298395

>>298321
This turtle is a pet. Red eared slider. They're omnivorous, not sure how that fits with aquaponics.Pic unrelated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 18:02:03 No.298387 Report

Quoted By:

>>298380
did you really take a pic of a stick of butter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 18:23:51 No.298395 Report

Quoted By:

>>298380
ah cool.

>>298349
I googled it and it doesnt seem common. salmonellas a bit of a worry..
maybe being omniorous they would be more fertile. theyd be super cool for ornamental plants at least.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:16:28 No.298432 Report

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does anyone know what these are? i have a few pics here
they have square stems like a mint but not minty and maybe around a foot or so tall

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:17:36 No.298433 Report

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:19:24 No.298435 Report

Quoted By:

heres one with white flowers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:19:33 No.298436 Report

Quoted By:

>>298321
No. To much bacteria on them. And most will obliterate your root systems

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:17:25 No.298474 Report

Quoted By:

God I love these threads. You guys are by far the coolest sub community within a sub community on 4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:37:11 No.298526 Report

Quoted By: >>298528

>>298315
>>298351
>>298354
Will try them as I get the materials.

I tried pepper first and saw some definite deterring of the ants. I am concerned that the now multiple nests or extensions of which might move their business inside. I was greeted by a flying ant of the same color as those on the plants resting on my computer screen.

Ants are intelligent little buggers with great resource management. They might be looking to set up shop inside the walls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:39:57 No.298528 Report

Quoted By: >>298538

>>298526
I use a powder called boric acid. I squirt it from the bottle into every crevice and crack I can find. Then leave it several days and wipe up the excess. It is for roaches and ants. You can find it in most dollar stores, walmart, ect. You can also use it to make green fire.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:55:26 No.298532 Report

Quoted By: >>298534 >>298832

So like 2 years ago I cut the tops off some pineapple plants and stuck them in moist soil after drying the cuts out. They already had some roots between their leaves. They grew but remained fairly small. Over the winter I sorta neglect them a bit by not watering them as often as I should. They reside in a back room at the sunniest window int he house. Thus, I rarely see them. Last time I over-watered them and their pans had like 2 inches of water for a long time. That was like 4-5 weeks ago I think. Today, I went to water them and was surprised to see my 3 oldest pineapple plants have PINEAPPLES!!!!!

Made my day. =D

I have 3 with pineapples, 1 offshoot that came up and was removed from one of those pineapples and grew into a new plant, and 2 that have been cut off, put in water, grown tons of roots, but I've yet to put them in soil and it's been 3-4 months. I guess, I know now that it is worth it. Now I'll be getting a new pineapple to cut the top off once every time I happen by the grocery store.

Hopefully, I'll get that greenhouse up this year.

Pic fully related!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 01:01:54 No.298534 Report

Quoted By: >>298536

>>298532
>tfw i had pineapple plants that size and was about to get pineapples but got a really bad frost and rotted all of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 01:06:05 No.298536 Report

Quoted By:

>>298534
That sucks. I live in an area with tons of snow and -40F temps. Summer is nice, but screw those freak frostings. I lost a 2' tall San Pedro cactus I raised from seed to one freak frost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 01:09:01 No.298538 Report

Quoted By: >>298543

>>298528
Have heard of it. Will purchase.

I did see this sort of thing on a previous crop of sweetcorn but they have never been this quick to attack and in such numbers. The last crop I chose not to go too far in terms of prevention because I had limited tools. the amount of aphids that resulted in was surprising.

Do you ever think that if ants made the leap in logic necessary to plant seeds from surviving corn plants their population would explode?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 01:12:07 No.298539 Report

Quoted By:

Anyone here has experience with growing strawberries in jars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 01:26:16 No.298543 Report

Quoted By:

>>298538
>the amount of aphids that resulted in was surprising.

Ants farm aphids. They will actually carry them from plant to plant like a herder moves sheep. It's pretty neat. And, it can be the reason you have no aphids one day then suddenly have an ass load of aphids the next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 02:08:14 No.298551 Report

Quoted By: >>298564

Is there anything I can do about leggy seedlings? Besides planting them up to their leaves when transplanting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 02:28:54 No.298561 Report

Quoted By: >>298564 >>298566

how to save seeds that were planted in peat pellets and are starting to get moldy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 02:42:02 No.298564 Report

Quoted By: >>298570

>>298551
Use a stick and twine to tie them up. Normally more light or a fan will help them strengthen up to prevent legginess when growing.

>>298561
Put a fan on them and dry them out a little. Once a little dry, just remove the fan and make sure they don't get too wet from now on. There are a few anti-mold things you can try, so long as they don't harm seeds/seedlings.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 02:46:22 No.298566 Report

Quoted By: >>298570

>>298561

Uncover them if they're still covered, set up a fan to blow on them gently from the side. Oscillating fans are nice.

I use hydrogen peroxide to dab at that kind of fungus when it happens (but it doesn't really happen, due to the fan).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 02:51:19 No.298570 Report

Quoted By:

>>298566
>>298564
its day 9 since i planted some seeds and i'm curious why some haven't popped up. dug up 3 nasturtium seeds i sadly planted em a little too deep. one has little mold spores and can be saved, the other has a taproot growing and no mold but i took some dirt off the top so it can find air and light faster, the third has no activity. yeah i have a fan set on em for about an hour at a time, then i put the humidity dome back and a few hours later, i'll let em get the air again. i'm also using a heat mat which might make things bad and cause mold to grow but i also know some of the seeds need the humidity to grow so its a good thing and a bad thing here...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 03:04:57 No.298574 Report

Quoted By:

>>297489
But what strain doe? A lot of strains here are bred to reduce potency. I tried danish flag last year, didn't work at all. Also another, pompom lilac, that in total generated two cups of tea due to low potency. Most people say tasmanian is the best so figure I'll try that one this year.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 04:46:16 No.298598 Report

Quoted By: >>298675

I'm wanting to try something new with potatoes. I have a problem with my soil that causes disease in any potato I plant. At best I will get a few quarter sizes good one and maybe a handful of larger ones in total. The rest rot in the ground or simply don't grow.

What if I grow them in newspaper? Would it work? I can make paper pulp from soy ink newspaper I used it for litter for my pets. I cna make the same pulp to plant tomato in..it would be much like dirt. I would just water with fertilizer/sterilized compost tea...yay/nay? I know it would take a lot of newspaper but I have access to stacks and stacks of it.

I would be filling those potato growing bags with it. It should have decent aeration but I don't know about drainage...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 12:41:51 No.298659 Report

Quoted By: >>298663

I think one of my pepper seeds finally has the sign that a root is coming out.
I really hope I saw it right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 12:57:15 No.298663 Report

Quoted By:

>>298659
It had a pretty long root.
Now lets hope it will do good in the earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 13:33:34 No.298675 Report

Quoted By: >>298925

>>298598
Pile up mounds or make raised beds for the potatoes. The mounds and beds should be over 12 inches/30cm high. You may just have a drainage problem from too much water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 21:41:14 No.298832 Report

Quoted By: >>298841

>>298532
Where do you live that pineapple plants grow wild?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 21:53:27 No.298841 Report

Quoted By:

>>298832
i grow them year round outside here in florida and theyll grow even in poor sandy soils kind of like a cactus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 00:46:37 No.298925 Report

Quoted By: >>298927 >>298928 >>298929

>>298675
My soil is well draining & the only water they get is when I water them, the moisture is not a problem I think, it may be my soil. It happens every year. Someone told me I have a virus or disease in the dirt but I forgot what they called it.

They said buy dirt at the store and use bags but dirt is expensive just for growing potato in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 00:56:08 No.298927 Report

Quoted By:

>>298925
probably potato blight
wait 3 years then use it again it should kill any bacteria in that time, also you can grow in things like leaves, hay bales, etc really anything as long as its well draining and has a little nutrients added(some compost/compost tea and maybe a bit of manure and some seaweed for minerals)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 00:57:54 No.298928 Report

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>>298925
oh also you could use paper as a growing medium as long as you add a little bit of nutrients in with it
just remember if you fail to try try again until you find a way that works good for you, patience definitely pays off when it comes to gardening

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 01:01:53 No.298929 Report

Quoted By:

>>298925
make sure you give all of your plants optimal nutrition as to keep them from becoming susceptible to disease. just like a humans immune system, if you eat garbage or dont get the proper nutrition you open yourself up to all sorts of problems(also pests will go after weaker plants first just like a predator would go against the weakest animal first)
your plants will thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 10:44:07 No.299083 Report

Quoted By: >>299085

>>298153
Doesn't have the three leaf dynamic associated with the poison triad. And I don't believe wild nightshade will be a problem even among other family members unless you let toddlers in your garden. Hell, tomato and potatoes, whichare sol plants, hhave very toxic leaves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 10:46:57 No.299085 Report

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>>299083
Oh I just realized family members could be misinterpreted for your family. I mean it won't interfere with tomatoes, potatoes, or even your berry patch unless you confuse nightshade berries with whatever you are planting...in which case you need glasses...and dementia pills

Anonymous

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Raspberry and Strawberry Seed Germination?

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 11:44:10 No.299095 Report

Quoted By: >>299147 >>299173 >>300371

Hi /out/

Has anyone here ever had success in germinating raspberry and/or strawberry seeds indoors? Apparently, these are some of the hardest and most challenging seeds to get to sprout. The web has few guides for home germination of these seeds and some of the guides contradict each other. One guide said strawberry seeds should be germinated at low temperatures and should not exceed 65F (18.3C) while others say they should be 75F (23.9C). I cold stratified my seeds by following the directions from the ebay seller and put some seeds on a wet paper towel, folded it, then placed them in a baggie and put them in the freezer for 3 weeks. After that, I took them out and put them into the Jiffy 1.5" Peat Pellets and its now Day #10 and I'm still not seeing anything.

I kept them for 7 days on a germination heat mat and since they didn't sprout like my other veggies and flowers, I put them in a separate mini greenhouse with no bottom heat 3 days ago to see if maybe the heat was bad for them and am still waiting with no results.

The raspberries are:
-1 Heritage (Red)
-1 Autumn Bliss (Red)
-2 Evergold (Yellow/Gold)

Strawberries
-5 Giant Sttawberry
-1 Alpine
-2 F1 Surecrop
-1 Quinault
-1 Albion
-2 Eversweet

I'm in Zone 10 (Southern California). If anyone knows what to do or how to get these guys to sprout, I would love to know!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 15:08:58 No.299147 Report

Quoted By: >>299327

>>299095
They probably need an acid dip first. Use lemon juice. Just dip the seeds in the juice, count to 30 then rinse them off with water and continue your germination process.

Personally, I'd set aside a few sets of seeds and dip them in the juice for different lengths of time ranging from 30 seconds all the way up to 5 minutes. Then see which ones germinate and which ones don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 16:06:15 No.299173 Report

Quoted By: >>299327

>>299095
>Has anyone here ever had success in germinating raspberry and/or strawberry seeds indoors?

I've gotten strawberry to germinate indoors. Have the plant right near me.

The bigger trick is keeping the damn plants alive. They really like dying off.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 19:05:37 No.299262 Report

Quoted By: >>299293

I had a nice surprise today. A flush of shiitake mushrooms had popped up in the logs I inoculated a couple years ago. I harvested 3.5lbs of them just now and there's more on the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 20:06:24 No.299293 Report

Quoted By: >>299326

>>299262
Nice. I should really get into mushrooms, I'm not a big fan of them as far as taste goes but I have three basements (two if you don't count the one that has been renovated lately) so I could probably cover the family's needs and sell some of it. It would keep me busy during winter too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 20:33:33 No.299300 Report

Quoted By: >>299315 >>299317 >>299318

I hate to be this guy but how do I start gardening? I'm asking for the aesthetics.

My mom wants to have a nice garden this year, and I don't know how I can make it look nice, I'm downloading the torrent in hopes i can get any technical info for the dirt instead of just filling up raised beds with whatever compost and soil I see at Home Depot/Lowe's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 21:03:28 No.299315 Report

Quoted By:

>>299300
till over the soil already in your yard to get it loose, then mix in some compost/manure/dried seaweed and till it back into the already existing sand/clay or whatever
then plant whatever you want in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 21:07:52 No.299317 Report

Quoted By:

>>299300
oh and by tilling i mean digging a hole and flipping the soil back into it to break it up
also remove any large roots you might find
if you're wanting a raised bed then use compost/manure/seaweed and like 1/5th sand as a mix(sand is really just for drainage and to extend your compost/manure)
oh crushed egg shells in the mix for slow release calcium helps too, or you can just add egg shells to the top and theyll break down anyways
also every month or so mix 1 part compost to 5 parts water to make compost tea and water your plants with it(every 3 months or so if you plan on growing fruit trees) you could also just put down a layer of compost or manure once in a while if you dont want to make compost tea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 21:11:06 No.299318 Report

Quoted By:

>>299300
oh yeah you can also add leaves to the mix for drainage too, the more well broken down the better but you can use them at any stage really
and if you have a really dry climate you can just put a layer of leaves or something like that around the base of your plants to keep moisture in longer(aka mulching)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 21:29:34 No.299326 Report

Quoted By:

>>299293
All you need is a semi-shady place to stack logs outside where they can be rained on. Most people stack them up or lean them against a building. Great for ones like shiitake (Lentinula edodes) and pearl oyster (Pleurotus ostreatus).

Indoor stuff can work too. Better for ones that use manure like portobello/champignon (Agaricus bisporus). Of course pearl oyster can grow most anywhere. All need a bit of light when they flush though so they form correctly.

They are super easy to grow, but the hard part is remembering them. I missed the big first flush of shiitake last fall. Got it this spring though, thankfully.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 21:31:29 No.299327 Report

Quoted By:

>>299147
I purposely started more strawberry seeds and intended to put 6 of every variety in an Earthbox to grow, however I'm getting desperate to get these guys to germinate.

For what you mentioned, do I dig up the seeds that I put i peat pellets or do the lemon drip with entirely new seeds? If so, do I need to cold stratify them beforehand?

I'm guessing the lemon juice has ascorbic acid (vitamin C) which would slightly dissolve the seed coat and get the germination to start faster. If I'm digging up the previous seeds, should I scarify (knick the seed coat with a nail file)? I know Nasturtium seeds are tough and need a thin filing or else they'll stay stuck in the seed coat for a long time. I can't start too many raspberries because my raspberry patch only has space for about 5 raspberry plants and I'm starting 4 of those from seeds. I also don't want to dig up the seeds and disturb them if they are doing something right now beneath the soil that I can't see...

>>299173
>I've gotten strawberry to germinate indoors.
And how in the sam hell did you do that? I'm having trouble at that step. I know they're tough to keep alive from having bought storebought plants in the past. I'm going to try keeping them in an Earthbox this time which is pretty much a failsafe!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 21:38:21 No.299331 Report

Quoted By: >>299337 >>299367

HALLLLLLPPPPPPPP

I'm building an aquaponics system with one plant. I have a 5 gallon water cooler jug. I want maybe like 2-3 fish along with a small shrimp or snail to eat the solid waste.

I went to the pet store and its hard to explain what I want to do without sounding insane.

They kept referring me to small fish because they don't produce a lot of waste requiring a filter. I asked what the purpose of the filter was, they said to take out the nitrates/nitrites from the bacteria converting the ammonia.

So I need to know, how many fish and what type of fish can I do, without a filter, knowing that the plant itself consumes the nitrites and shrimp/snail will eat the solid shit and algae? I was under the impression that this system can operate without a filter so long as the bacteria has a place to grow.

PS this is ornamental. I ok with 5 small fish. I don't want fish that will grow to more than 2".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 22:05:56 No.299337 Report

Quoted By: >>299411

>>299331
you can get 1 of those suckermouth fish that eat algae and what not, forget the name of them though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 22:29:42 No.299343 Report

Quoted By: >>299348 >>299349

What is good to grow indoors under lights?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 22:47:02 No.299348 Report

Quoted By:

>>299343
kaneh bosom does well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 22:48:17 No.299349 Report

Quoted By: >>299510

>>299343
kaneh bosm does well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Apr 2014 23:32:52 No.299367 Report

Quoted By: >>299411

>>299331
Maybe get some very small koi or goldfish. Either would do well. Snails as well as freshwater mussels would improve water quality and keep it clean.

Anonymous

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Tomato Pest ID/What to do with them?

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 00:55:40 No.299389 Report

Quoted By: >>299407 >>300076

10 years ago, I grew 50-75 tomato plants in the ground and never once did I encounter a tomato hornworm (the big green caterpillars). Now, I am caring for a tomato plant in a container and I noticed these tiny green caterpillars appearing on the upper foliage and have made some holes in the leaves. Does anyone know what kind of caterpillars these are?

Also, my backyard has several trees and dead twigs which the birds have been coming for in droves and are picking the twigs and possibly some grubs in a section of bad grass and weeds. Is there any way I can get the birds to notice these caterpillars so they come to my tomato plant and eat them? I don't think birds mess with green tomatoes so I'm guessing I'd be safe until they turn red, right? What is the best way to get rid of these caterpillars? If the birds indeed eat them, I'd like to feed the caterpillars to them somehow rather than just step on them...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 01:51:27 No.299407 Report

Quoted By: >>299430

>>299389
i just pull worms off and throw them over my fence

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 01:54:53 No.299411 Report

Quoted By: >>299426

>>299367
>>299367
>>299337
>>299337
Do you think a single pepper plant will be able to keep up with the waste output of 3 smaller fish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:15:47 No.299426 Report

Quoted By: >>299431

>>299411
You need testing kits for the water to manage the level of nitrates and other stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:18:55 No.299430 Report

Quoted By: >>299482

>>299407
By doing that, you're asking for trouble. If they reproduce, they lay lots of eggs and you'll see the caterpillars coming back exponentially or worse, kill your plants. I really want to feed the birds (if they like eating them) and even better if they pick them right off my tomato plant since I keep it outside next to the trees where the birds congregate. The birds are preparing their nests for babies (yup, theres a nest on the side of my house) so its kind of a 'one-stop' for the birds to get their twigs and food for their babies but I don't know how to 'hand-deliver' the caterpillars to the birds without them getting scared and flying away or leaving the caterpillars alone in my yard where they'll just attack the tomato plant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:20:34 No.299431 Report

Quoted By: >>299478

>>299426
>>299426
:/
Fuck, my little brother had a Betta in a tiny 8"x8"x8" with no filter or anything, just water, and it lived for 2 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:45:14 No.299478 Report

Quoted By: >>299546

>>299431

Two years is a third of their expected lifespan.

The only reason that works is because bettas can breathe air and so suffer less from ammonia poisoning.

Your idea works fine but you need a pump to circulate water and the plant needs to be grown in soil-less media. A few small MALE only guppies will be fine with a pepper plant, and you can toss a few cherry or glass/ghost shrimp in there too if you like. I highly suggest adding aquatic snails too. Don't forget a layer of fine pebbles on the bottom to add some extra biomaterial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:55:52 No.299482 Report

Quoted By: >>299559

>>299430
i have never had them come back ever, its really a wooded area where i live in florida

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 04:44:03 No.299510 Report

Quoted By:

>>299349
Someday brother...someday

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 05:28:10 No.299546 Report

Quoted By:

>>299478
>>299478
Yes, that is what the air pump is for. It runs a bubbler for the fish but also an airlift to trickle water up to the plant. The plant will either be in the clay marble/balls media or in small pebbles.

My diagram shows how all that will work.

Thank you for the help, growman

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 06:01:38 No.299559 Report

Quoted By: >>299629

>>299482
Did/do you have the same tiny green inchworms/caterpillars that I have on the tomato leaves? Keep in mind these aren't the big tomato hornworms. I've seen those before and these definitely aren't them. I don't know where they are coming from or why but I'd like to do away with em. Just be careful where you throw em because you don't want those fuckers coming back. I did something rather interesting... I cut off the leaves with holes and put the 3 caterpillars on it then put that leaf on the ground where dirt is so the birds up on the electric wires or in the trees would be able to spot the movement and the color easier. Within 10 minutes, 2 of the caterpillars disappeared. I went back to the leaf and the 3rd caterpillar/inchworm hid in a curl of the leaf on the underside so I turned it over and ripped the curl out. It took about an hour or two before the 3rd inchworm disappeared. I'm assuming that the birds must have seen them and ended up eating them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 08:14:11 No.299578 Report

Quoted By: >>299628 >>299630

Guys, I normally stick to herbs only because I have a balcony that's 1x1, so you can just stand on it and don't really have any room left. But this year I really want to try some vegetables.
Would it be possible to grow them indoors if I keep them in pots right next to the door of my balcony? In the summer I leave that door practically always open anyway.

I was thinking of trying tomatoes, some onions and maybe a cabbage or something. But if you guys know any veggies that do well inside, I'm ready to try anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 13:41:39 No.299628 Report

Quoted By:

>>299578
As long as they get a lot of sun exposure in their location they can be grown anywhere. More than 6 hours a day would be preferable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 13:45:51 No.299629 Report

Quoted By:

>>299559
yeah ive had those and horn worms before, only 1 at a time though i never have an infestation or anything
you can also put them in soapy water to kill them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 13:47:07 No.299630 Report

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>>299578
yeah some will work, search for more shade tolerant varieties if possible

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 15:32:40 No.299663 Report

Quoted By: >>299693

Can anyone recommend a preventative for corn earworm other than not planting corn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 16:54:49 No.299693 Report

Quoted By:

>>299663
I've heard that adding canola oil with a dropper to the silk as soon as it starts to dry prevents the eggs from sticking to it and entering the ear

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 05:05:57 No.300065 Report

Quoted By: >>300072 >>300093 >>300094 >>300163

> 500 heirloom dandelion seeds for sale

When is this EVER a good idea? It's like a "grow your own disaster" kit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 05:20:19 No.300072 Report

Quoted By: >>300145 >>300198

>>300065
Are you kidding? Dandelions are fucking delicious; everything from greens to wine. Last meal I had of dandelions was floured and fried blossoms. I juice them all the time. I actually plant them in and around my garden for companion planting and food. They can grow massive too.

Thinking dandelions are "weeds" is merely you swallowing Monsanto bullshit so you buy weed killer from them, IMHO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 05:28:10 No.300076 Report

Quoted By:

>>299389
Those look like hornworms. Kill them somehow. I can handle pretty much any other bug but these things give me the creeps. Also they can skeletonize tomatos like piranhas with a cow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 07:03:16 No.300093 Report

Quoted By:

>>300065

Dandelion is good. It's also good to grow for animal fodder like rabbits, and produces a lot of seed you can harvest before it blows away. High in vitamin c and minerals and requires no watering once germinated. One man's weeds are another man's crop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 07:05:55 No.300094 Report

Quoted By:

>>300065
I won't this. My enemies shall pay!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 11:21:49 No.300145 Report

Quoted By: >>300149 >>300166 >>300179

>>300072
Woh woh. Just because a plant is edible doesn't remove its invasive status.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 11:56:23 No.300149 Report

Quoted By: >>300169

>>300145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnYle_Zkgfs
dandelions are literal medicine for your soil

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 13:03:16 No.300163 Report

Quoted By:

>>300065
>tfw i got a pack of dandelion seeds like that just so spread them through my yard
dandelions are great the entire thing is edible and extremely good for you(and organic too)
i dont mind spending the 2 seconds it takes to pull them out, i actually encourage certain weeds to grow in my yard for edibility and some wild plants will help keep away pests(such as spider mites loving spanish needles, they go for those 100% of the time before anything in my garden)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 13:16:08 No.300166 Report

Quoted By:

>>300145
just because a plant is invasive doesnt mean its bad.shit, grass is invasive too
if its a "weed" and its edible then just eat it, thatll show em

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Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 13:25:16 No.300169 Report

Quoted By: >>300170

>>300149
if you want tons of free medicine for you and your trees then try usnea(its also 95% carbs too)
its antibiotic/antiviral/antifungal and it also is a pain reliever so you cant beat it
http://www.eattheweeds.com/usnea-food-and-pharmacy-lichen/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 13:26:06 No.300170 Report

Quoted By: >>300171

>>300169
I heard Yew tree tea extract is also nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 13:28:12 No.300171 Report

Quoted By:

>>300170
"Yew is a tree. People use the bark, branch tips, and needles to make medicine.

Despite serious safety concerns, yew is used for treating diphtheria, tapeworms, swollen tonsils (tonsillitis), seizures (epilepsy), muscle and joint pain (rheumatism), urinary tract conditions, and liver conditions. Women use it for starting menstruation and causing abortions.

Pharmaceutical companies make paclitaxel (Taxol), a prescription drug for the treatment of breast and ovarian cancer, from the bark of the yew tree. They extract paclitaxel, leaving the poisonous chemicals in yew behind."
i hear the red aril around the seed is edible too but i dont get yews around here so

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 14:28:42 No.300179 Report

Quoted By: >>300180 >>300189

>>300145
>invasive status.

Dandelion aren't technically "invasive." Which is a specific term for either non-indigenous species in the wrong environment (live rabbits in Australia or kudzu in the south of the USA) or a term for indigenous species that cause any manner of problems with the environment and other species (sudden algae blooms that kill fish in streams and lakes). Dandelions don't do any of that. In fact, they help out in a great many of ways.

Seriously, people that think dandelions are terrible, invasive weeds, are those that have been completely brainwashed by Monsanto propaganda. The only place they don't look good in or are against something is in a perfectly pure manicured lawn where the owner wants only a single type of grass for purely aesthetic reasons. While in the garden they are actually a boon to the garden both in food value and with helping other plants grow, fruit, and ripen.

Here, read up on them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taraxacum#Properties

It seems, in the USA Dandelions are the goat meat of the vegetable world. Everyone else eats tons of them, but most in the USA (and now starting in Europe) think they are beneath them. All is due to Monsanto's anti-weed advertisements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 14:49:37 No.300180 Report

Quoted By: >>300187

>>300179
how to make dandelion wine? should be interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 15:22:54 No.300187 Report

Quoted By:

>>300180
It is pretty easy. It is basically a simple sugar wine with dandelion petals added. The hard part isn't brewing or picking the flower heads. The hard part is sitting there forever and picking the flower petals out of the green parts of the flower head. You only want the yellow petals. The green stuff will make the wine bitter if there's too much of it. I recommend you and a friend do the de-petalling together as it helps pass the time.

I normally allow the flowers to sit out for a bit after picking them to help get rid of insects that might still be on them. Same goes with any floral wine you make (especially, Queen Anne's lace wine).

Beyond that, there's tons of recipes online. Just google them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 15:40:28 No.300189 Report

Quoted By: >>300311

>>300179
I live in a suburban neighborhood in Quebec. Nobody really talks about Monsanto and I only hear about Monsanto on TV or some documentaries thay were shown again and again in school. If anything, I was brainwashed to hate Monsanto. I was led to believe dandelions were bad because of my mother, I guess.

I knew they were edible but in my opinion they look gross. They look like they taste bitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 16:04:18 No.300193 Report

Quoted By: >>300199 >>300256

I don't get it, /out/. This certain packet of seeds I bought has a really shitty germination rate. I tried directly in soil first. Then I tried wet warm napkins. I got one sprout out of 7 seeds in 14 days.

They're T. Butch peppers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 16:26:15 No.300198 Report

Quoted By:

>>300072
Dandelion is a weed when it's growing where someone doesn't want it. If you want it there, it's not a weed. I don't want it, it makes me sneeze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 16:28:15 No.300199 Report

Quoted By: >>300208

>>300193
Always give pepper seeds at least three weeks to germinate. They take their own sweet time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 17:12:54 No.300208 Report

Quoted By: >>300221 >>300313

>>300199
What about Chinese Lanterns? I know they're in the tomato/pepper family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 17:49:27 No.300221 Report

Quoted By:

>>300208
No experience, you betta axe somebody else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 19:02:11 No.300256 Report

Quoted By: >>300291 >>300384

>>300193
Never do direct soil with tomatoes or peppers. Buy a jiffy mini greenhouse with peat pellets and a seedling heat mat. Peppers LOVE high humidity and should be kept consistently at 75-85F to germinate. It took 6 days for my pepper plant to germinate and 3 days for one of my tomato plants which were both way ahead of schedule. Also, your pepper plant needs to be kept in high humidity to ensure its true leaves will show up as well from what I've read on /out/ as lots of people here are growing peppers and have been frustrated. Don't give up hope, anon! I'm also growing 2 Peruvian chilli peppers as well. Any day now they should sprout!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 20:39:05 No.300291 Report

Quoted By: >>300521

>>300256
> never direct soil with peppers or tomatoes

I've always had good luck with both, and always direct soil planted. To each his own, I guess.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 21:38:28 No.300311 Report

Quoted By:

>>300189
Monsanto owns pretty much all the companies for pesticides, not all but close to it. They are massive. A lot of people have never heard of them, but have heard of their products, like Round-up for instance. They also own the greater portion of the seed companies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 21:40:27 No.300313 Report

Quoted By:

>>300208
>Chinese Lanterns

Tomatillas? Those things spread like weeds from their seeds. They are amazing. Treat them like tomato seeds. I planted some many years ago and never replanted because they come up on their own every single year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 22:51:01 No.300371 Report

Quoted By: >>300395

>>299095
I started several Alpine Strawberries from seed a couple months ago. I just surfaced sowed the seeds onto some peat and they popped up in about a week. They just started to flower about a week ago.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 23:02:38 No.300384 Report

Quoted By: >>300408 >>300521

>>300256
>Buy a jiffy mini greenhouse with peat pellets

Peat? I actually have a mini greenhouse setup on the way with a larger, adjustable humidity dome and a heat mat. I got it just for peppers.

I don't know if there's a way to fit peat pellet things in the tray but what's wrong with seed starter mix?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 23:19:24 No.300395 Report

Quoted By: >>300408

>>300371
my strawberries just started flowering too whereabouts ish do you live

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2014 23:53:49 No.300408 Report

Quoted By:

>>300384
Seed starter mix is usually just peat and perlite, it should work just fine.
>>300395
Just outside of Chicago. They aren't even in the ground yet though, I've been growing them under lights. The weather has been pretty lousy, but today I was able to go outside and do some digging. Soon enough I'll be battling the birds for them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 00:50:42 No.300430 Report

Quoted By: >>300458

What's all this crap about the Carolina Reaper being unstable AKA the plant ends up producing a random variety?
I'm finding forum threads posted around the time of its world's hottest status. People are calling it bullshit hype and that PepperJoe runs a little "pepper mafia" and whatnot.

Some guy on YouTube debunked those claims and determined that there's only a 1.6% chance of the CR screwing up (he had 2200 plants to back his claim).

I'm also wondering: because this comes off as such a mixed up plant, would seed saving be worth my time? I have 8 growing plants right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 01:06:18 No.300442 Report

Quoted By: >>300458

Do potatoes really grow well in tires? I'm sort of skeptical, but it is cool and shady.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 01:32:30 No.300458 Report

Quoted By: >>300479

>>300430
Carolina Reaper is a hybrid. The seeds from it can end up being plants like one of the original grandparents, instead of the parent plant. Essentially 1st gen hybrids are best, 2nd gen okay-ish, and 3rd gen not worth your time.

>>300442
Yes, but don't use tires because they leach several heavy metals and other crap you really don't want being in your food. You can use just about anything to make a potato tower. Easiest method is some fencing, straw, and soil, like in this image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 02:21:48 No.300479 Report

Quoted By: >>300480 >>300551

>>300458
tires take quite a while to start breaking down so id imagine that its not a problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 02:24:40 No.300480 Report

Quoted By: >>300481

>>300479
Ehhh. Just be safe and use a burlap sack. There are enough retards in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 02:26:02 No.300481 Report

Quoted By:

>>300480
yeah pretty much
i just till down to about a foot deep and mix in some compost and manure then plant in that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 03:52:03 No.300521 Report

Quoted By: >>300522 >>300523 >>300528

>>300291
Just be careful of the soil conditions, pests, and birds, squirrels, or moles who dig up and eat seedlings sometimes. In my area, theres lots of birds and the temperature is fickle so I'd rather play it safe and grow the seedlings indoors and slowly control how the plants get used to the outdoors (e.g. I can take them outside for hours at a time, leave them out when they get older, put them under a grow light vs having the little seedling fend off vs nature all on its own by planting the seed outdoors)

>>300384
This is one of my mini greenhouses. I started it in a 72-ct. and move the seedlings to a 36 as soon as they sprout. Here is my pepper plant (in the very front), about 6 days old now. It is a Burpee Chinese Giant (Heirloom) Sweet Pepper. You can use the seed starter mix too but I like the peat pellets better as they really don't have any nutrients in them like seed starting mix (some mixes have small amounts of fertilizer included), and you can pull back the netting and transplant them easier rather than squish the plastic cells and risk hurting the roots which don't have much space to grow in. Make sure that once they sprout, you stop using the heat mat or else you'll end up with leggy (too tall) seedlings. Also, give them fresh air too and remove the dome for several hours a day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 03:58:40 No.300522 Report

Quoted By:

>>300521
i have warmer weather so i do everything outside, i start some stuff in starter pots or whatever though like tomatoes and peppers because i have crappy luck with direct sow on them
plenty of things like squirrels and birds like to mess with seeds here aswell(especially stuff like beans)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 04:01:50 No.300523 Report

Quoted By: >>300530

>>300521
what are them starter pots made of? i normally just use a egg carton

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 04:08:30 No.300528 Report

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>>300521
I'm in Southern California (10A) A couple nights ago it was 45F at night, today it was 90F in the day and its 80F outdoors right now at 9PM. Thats too much of a change of the elements for my seedlings plus I can always watch over and water them the moment the soil gets dry for them, plus its also more fun since they are temporarily my 'roommates' for the time being. I transplanted 4 corn plants, 2 sunflowers, and a pinto bean plant earlier today that outgrew their jiffy pots but I put up a Wall-Of-Water Teepee to protect them from birds, squirrels, and to warm them up until they safely grow larger/the water in the cells releases heat at night to warm them up inside the 'tent'. Put up something shiny like streamers that you find on kid's bike handles that move in the wind to scare away birds or squirrels from coming nearby or consider buying some Wall-Of-Water Teepees for your plants as they do wonders for keeping new transplants safe and alive. I'd show you mine from earlier but I set up the last Wall of Water right before it was too dark to see so I didn't take a picture of mine. Here's what they look like. They are very practical!

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Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 04:13:18 No.300530 Report

Quoted By: >>300552

>>300523
The starter pot is a 'Jiffy Pot' and is made of pressed Peat I believe. They are super cheap ($1.58 for 14 with a 3.5" diameter) at Wal Mart. They are a bit thinner than egg carton material but feel like the egg packaging a bit/also like paper mache and are biodegradeable/you transplant them into the soil along with the plant when its ready. In my previous picture, thats one tomato plant inside the 3.5" peat pot. It will be another 3-4 weeks before its time to put the tomato plant outside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 05:33:11 No.300551 Report

Quoted By:

>>300479
It is a problem and they start breaking down almost immediately after being made. Just not in the way you normally think. No need to chance it anyway since there are much better alternatives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 05:35:18 No.300552 Report

Quoted By:

>>300530
>peat

Use the manure ones like, "cowpots".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 12:24:43 No.300615 Report

Quoted By: >>300619 >>300656

hey guys, I have been reading the Aquaphonics pdf's and other forums, with the intent to start a small scale farm (my back yard).

The one thing I don't understand at all is, where do the nitryfying bacteria live? in the grow bed, or in the fish tank.
There is a lot of talk about maximum surface area, but i only see gravel being put in the fish tank.

Also do you think that having a small child sized fish tank to start the bacteria growth, will suffice if i remove the water once a day with a glass or a small container? don't want to buy a pump and the whole set up, without trying it out first

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 12:51:15 No.300619 Report

Quoted By:

>>300615
correction.
I only see gravel being but in the Grow beads. NOT the fish tanks, that's why I'm asking

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 13:02:49 No.300622 Report

Quoted By: >>300667 >>300677

H/out/y there.

Im having a problem with Japanese beetles on my raspberries. What do? It seems like they lay the eggs on the flowers and then hatch when it fruits, because i go to pick them and its full of beetle larvae. And i see the adults in the soil beneath them. Is there anything i could do before resorting to chemicals?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 13:19:32 No.300624 Report

Quoted By: >>300653

My peas are flowering indoors. Under a simple fluorescent light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 14:49:01 No.300645 Report

Quoted By:

>>296802
Aji limo
Peri peri
Baby woodrose
Morning glory
Strawberries
Basil
Another kind of herb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 15:37:01 No.300653 Report

Quoted By:

>>300624
im not surprised, i grow them in half shade in my yard no problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 15:52:39 No.300656 Report

Quoted By: >>300806

>>300615
The nitrobacter and nitrospiro bacteria live in the fish tank.
You can start bacterial growth in one of a few ways. Borrow some fishwater from someone else's tank, any kind will do. You can also just set up your system and be a little over-cautious with feeding and checking NH4 levels, as the bacteria should populate on their own eventually.
I'm not sure what you mean by "trying it out" or why you'd have to remove the water in the first place. Could you clarify?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 15:53:04 No.300657 Report

Quoted By:

>>296802
Bing cherries, 4 kinds of apples, peaches, rasberries, blackberries, elderberries, and a shit load of flowers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 16:27:55 No.300666 Report

Quoted By: >>300859

I've got a set of chilli plants growing on my windowsill, they look healthy enough and there's plenty of light and they've gone into flower.

Problem is that the flowers are shrivelling and dropping off instead of turning into fruit, what the shit is going on?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 16:29:16 No.300667 Report

Quoted By:

>>300622
guys pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 16:44:37 No.300669 Report

Quoted By:

>>296802

Food:
Blueberries
Strawberries
Bush beans
Summer squash
Sunflowers
Cucumbers
Tomatoes
Watermelons
Onions
Lettuce
Broccoli
Muscadines (found a huge vine on the edge of my friend's property, rooted cuttings indoors over the summer and one lived)

Non-food:
Three-year-old Japanese maple
Attempting to bonsai a flowering dogwood cutting I took last year.

I took up gardening when I quit smoking last year so I tried to keep myself busy over winter with the cuttings I took last year. Surprisingly higher maintenance than I thought, trying to keep plants alive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 17:13:16 No.300677 Report

Quoted By: >>300678 >>300679

>>300622
Ground up some habaneros, boil them in water and rinse the soil and plant with it. You could also plant some marigolds those little shits drive pests out like it's nothing.

Look up companion gardening also, planting bait flowers such as geraniums and petunias might help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 17:20:37 No.300678 Report

Quoted By: >>300681

>>300677
In fact, I was just looking at some info about geraniums and they might be the perfect solution for you.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2277825_use-geraniums-as-companion-plants.html

>Plant the flowering varieties in your vegetable garden because they repel corn earworms, Japanese beetles and cabbageworms. The scented varieties will repel cotton aphids and red spider mites.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 17:20:41 No.300679 Report

Quoted By: >>300681 >>300753

>>300677
Thanks a bunch. Little motherfuckers destroyed my harvest last year.

Here is a picture of plant growth in my thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 17:32:43 No.300681 Report

Quoted By:

>>300679
See this other post also. You're welcome.
>>300678

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 21:13:39 No.300753 Report

Quoted By: >>300805 >>300819

>>300679
That's too cool.
I've always wondered what would happen if I planted some fast-growing bamboo, waited a week, then planted kudzu at the base. Would it be a giant plant-wall? Would they just steal each other's nutrients? Hell if I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 23:07:17 No.300805 Report

Quoted By:

>>300753
it would be fine i think, im pretty sure kudzu fixes nitrogen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 23:10:50 No.300806 Report

Quoted By:

>>300656
so instead of having a self cycling system with pumps, have a separate fish tank, and the flower bed in a different part of the garden, then water the plants with a container from the fish tank. Collect the 'filtered down' water and place back in the tank.

No point of shelling out on all the pipes and pumps if it turns out I cant grow anything or keep the fish alive.

Thanks for the tip though, I will have to find someone with a fish tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 23:29:24 No.300816 Report

Quoted By:

how far apart should i space sweet potatoes in the ground approx?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Apr 2014 23:31:30 No.300819 Report

Quoted By:

>>300753
but keep in mind that kudzu can grow about a foot a day, it is edible though and the flowers are tasty and you can eat bamboo shoots too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 00:36:02 No.300841 Report

Quoted By: >>300854 >>300856

So a hybrid is always two different strains pollinating each other and not by their own flowers?

Is it like the quick way to get a satisfying product? Instead of slowly saving desirable seeds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 01:10:04 No.300854 Report

Quoted By:

>>300841
yeah pretty much, just a selection of genes from each really
and its breeding for traits like size shape or flavor etc(kind of like the development of corn and all of the varieties )

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 01:11:06 No.300856 Report

Quoted By:

>>300841
also saving seeds that you grow will help them build resistances to the soil conditions and weather conditions of your area(the longer you save and keep regrowing the better)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 01:21:25 No.300859 Report

Quoted By:

>>300666
> what the shit is going on?

Unskinny bop.

Put some onions and peas out yesterday, have erected trellises for cucumbers and watermelon, going to put out the rest of the beans and peas this weekend. Getting excited.

Anonymous

Transplanting carrots outdoors?

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 05:34:28 No.300965 Report

Quoted By: >>300997 >>301072

When is it safe to transplant carrots outside? I'm in zone 10 and its too hot outside in the day (85F and up) plus theres squirrels and birds. The carrots sprouted a week ago and have one set of leaves (not the true ones) but I'm guessing I need to put them outside soon. I'm growing them as 'secondary' crops (knowing they will be stunted) so they break the soil deeper for my tomato roots to grow deeper but I'm going to eat the carrots when they're ready and mature...

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 06:31:11 No.300979 Report

Quoted By: >>300989

>>296782
it kinda gets my goat that 'socially disadvantaged' folks can get pretty good sized grants for nothing.
and by socially disadvantaged they literally mean everyone on earth but white males. I dont feel so advantaged...
but anyways, a question, I really want to get in to farming. Ive been reading and watching videos a lot, especially about mushroom farming and aquaponics, but would you guys recommend going to actual school for agriculture? It just seems kinda like a waste, but if thats the only way I could get a loan/grant

Ive got some oyster mushroom spawn on the way in the mail now, I can't wait to start growing those!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 07:04:33 No.300989 Report

Quoted By:

>>300979
it isnt to do with individual disadvantages, but general averages and trends.

But what you should do is become a farm hand at a couple of different farms. work 7 days a week making lots of money until you can buy your own farm.

Going to uni for agriculture doesnt make you a farmer as much as someone who is well poised to advise farmers on crops/diseases/soils/etc (most of which you would learn by reading and on the job anyway)

And trust me, being a white male will have its advantages trying to find a job as a farm hand (tfw glorious white privilege)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 07:22:36 No.300997 Report

Quoted By:

>>300965
>one set of leaves (not the true ones)
cotyledons is the term for those
never transplanted, but i would wait a little longer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 13:56:33 No.301072 Report

Quoted By:

>>300965
i plant mine in the winter here in florida, they did alright even with a layer of ice covering them
them and radishes seem to be pretty cold hardy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:26:46 No.301177 Report

Quoted By: >>301249

Thinking of setting up an aquaponics system that uses no outside power but uses thermosiphoning and heron's fountain for water circulation/oxygenation.
How slow can I make my flood/drain cycle without killing my fish assuming they're 3-4 carp in a 50-gallon tank with mussels as well?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:35:44 No.301180 Report

Quoted By: >>301181 >>301198

Can someone help me figure out what these little assholes are?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:37:31 No.301181 Report

Quoted By: >>301183 >>301198 >>301204

>>301180
They're small, as you can see that little white thing. They fly, they hang out underneath drooping leaves. There's now gooey small crystals

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:39:33 No.301183 Report

Quoted By: >>301184 >>301198

>>301181
I think they're laying eggs under the leaves

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:41:17 No.301184 Report

Quoted By: >>301186 >>301198

>>301183
Here's what my plant looks like in general now. I sprayed the plant down with water both on top and under leaves. Trying to kill these bastards.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:43:29 No.301186 Report

Quoted By: >>301190 >>301191

>>301184
Unrelated my scorpion butch t plant has survived an Ontario winter indoors. I chopped it down to a third of what it was sometime in December. Wasn't worth the effort to try to keep it big and healthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:46:57 No.301190 Report

Quoted By:

>>301186
but what's the most sad news is that my bonsais are dead. I kept them in my garage for the winter giving them light. I was told to let them be dormant so I watered them sparsely and let little light hit them. Things were going well until the weather started to get good. I let them outside in really shitty plastic starter planter pots. I left them on a table and one windy day knocked two of them out of their pots and one was left in. I wanted to save the other two by putting them with the one that didn't tip over.

For some unknown reason the pots for the other two were nowhere to be found. So I 'squeezed' them all into one shitty pot. Now they're all dead. They were not even 1yr old.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:48:47 No.301191 Report

Quoted By: >>301192

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:50:13 No.301192 Report

Quoted By: >>301199

>>301191
Should I toss them? I don't think they'll live again. The biggest one was the one that didn't tip over..

Japanese White Pine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 19:58:12 No.301198 Report

Quoted By: >>301208

>>301184
>>301183
>>301181
>>301180
Buy any spray with pyrethrins or Malathion. It will kill the bugs and about 5 days after you spray, its safe to consume/eat. I had to use that as a 'last defense' for red spider mites that were ruining my tomato crops one year. Also, those might be whiteflies or aphids but its too small and I couldn't see anything on your pictures. Water won't stop them. You need Malathion immediately as they've wreaked severe havoc on your Basil. Godspeed and protect them!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 20:00:07 No.301199 Report

Quoted By: >>301208

>>301192
No. Give them a chance. It won't hurt you either. If the will to live is there, let them grow again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 20:04:39 No.301204 Report

Quoted By: >>301208

>>301181

Likely whiteflies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 20:11:03 No.301208 Report

Quoted By: >>301214

>>301198
>>301204
Looks like whiteflies. I'm going to hope my homedepot has its seasonal department open.

>>301199
What do you reccomend, outside where it's ranging from +15 to 0 * C or indoors where it's constant 20*C.

Also what watering techniques should I be doing? Under/over normal watering?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 20:21:34 No.301214 Report

Quoted By:

>>301208
It looks like you have them indoors and you have a whitefly problem? That sounds really bad. Get the malathion concentrate and a dial sprayer (if you don't already have one) I mentioned to insta-kill the bastards and their eggs. That should take care of the problem. Next, buy these sticky yellow traps (they are the size of index cards and are colored yellow that aphids and whiteflies are attracted to) that you put on a stake and put into the soil so the bugs get trapped on those. That will prevent you from having to use major pesticides again. Also, buy Marigolds and Nasturtium flowers and plant those nearby if you're doing outdoor gardening. Aphids and whiteflies HATE those flowers and you can use the nasturtium flowers in salads. As far as watering, never hit the leaves. Only water below and as close as to the ground as possible. Sometimes you can introduce viruses and diseases to plants by getting their leaves wet. Good luck and take care!

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Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 21:54:17 No.301248 Report

Quoted By: >>301259 >>301318 >>301378

So, I brought some onions a while back. I was going to eat them, but never got around to that. You know how it goes. Anyway, I noticed one of them has started pushing out some green shoots. First, I was going to just throw it out, but I'm a little bit tempted to let it grow. I was wondering if anyone here could give me any info on just how hardy these things are. Is it going to survive if I just steal some dirt out of the neighbor's flowerbed and keep it in a pot near a window, or is it going to require some special maintenance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 21:55:32 No.301249 Report

Quoted By:

>>301177
I know carp have a pretty fair tolerance for shitty oxygen content, but nothing more specific than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 22:02:56 No.301259 Report

Quoted By: >>301272

>>301248
I don't eat onions or know much about growing them but where are you from? That will help others help you out with weather conditions. Anywho... an onion is a 'bulb' just like tulips and daffodils are. Also, just like potatoes, if you don't eat them, they start to grow as well. If you plant that onion, make sure you use good soil and water it well and fertilize it and sure enough, you'll get more onions. Hopefully another anon can help you out with that as I know very little about specific onion cultivation. Good luck!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Apr 2014 22:11:48 No.301272 Report

Quoted By:

>>301259
Finland. The summer is short, but has very little snowfall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 00:37:26 No.301318 Report

Quoted By:

>>301248
yeah plant it, it will resprout greens and you can keep cutting them over and over
it will go to flower so you can collect seed from it eventually too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 02:09:21 No.301350 Report

Quoted By: >>301430 >>301490

Planting nasturtium with my squash and marigolds throughout the garden. Anybody else doing any companion planting with their veggies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 03:04:16 No.301378 Report

Quoted By:

>>301248
also even though it has sprouted it is probably still good for eating probably

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Companion planting/my veggie/herb/flower box plan

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 05:29:29 No.301430 Report

Quoted By: >>301468

>>301350
Me. I had a thread about it and my seed starting of everything in the plan that I engineered one day. I'm about 2 weeks in, half the veggie, flower, and herb seeds have sprouted (including 20 of the 30 carrots) and the other half that hasn't, I 're-sowed' the seeds back in the same jiffy peat pellets and scarified some seeds that I'm guessing had too thick of seed coats. I've been doing that for the last 5-6 hours but here is my original 'plan' that contains the box dimensions and approximate distance between companion plants. For the stuff that has sprouted, most of those plants are barely showing their first set of true leaves which is a good sign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 10:49:46 No.301468 Report

Quoted By: >>301776 >>301875

>>301430
That's lots of stuff in a small space. Good luck, and please post pics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 12:59:12 No.301490 Report

Quoted By:

>>301350
yeah i try to plant flowers or other things indispersed with my crops, if i have a little extra space im definitely not gonna let it go to waste

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:14:24 No.301524 Report

Quoted By: >>301545 >>301549

The proportions are a bit off but I made a rough map of my garden.

My father is tired of mowing the lawn and he is making a gravel path because he needs a place to park his van (read: he is ravaging the whole freaking place).

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure (the garden is small and I need space to practice archery) but I can potentially claim the land in blue as mine.
The problem is: the bigass spruce overshadows it during most of the day. I already have moss problems (and moles/ants problems but that's another story) because of the shrub so I'm not sure: is it worth it?

My zone is 8a (Europe).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:44:53 No.301545 Report

Quoted By: >>301607

>>301524
just run the spruce through a wood chipper and then use the chips in your garden, they break down into really rich loamy black soil in a few years and can also be used for mulching until they decay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:46:53 No.301549 Report

Quoted By: >>301607

>>301524
also depending on how hot it gets there you might want a tree for partial shade(id much prefer a fruiting tree though)
i know in my backyard here in florida it gets extremely hot during the summer and can make the soil dry out pretty quick so its nice to have at least 1 tree for partial shade but i wouldnt want full shade though even though some things still will grow in full shade

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 16:57:21 No.301607 Report

Quoted By:

>>301545
>just run the spruce through a wood chipper

I'm afraid I can't do that.

>>301549
Unfortunately, the weather kind of suck for gardeners here. We don't have much sun and it's not very hot (around 18°C during the afternoon these days (64°F), but the temperature is higher than usual).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 17:31:06 No.301630 Report

Quoted By: >>301640 >>301712 >>301785 >>301791 >>301797

Okay, so I'm in need of some homegrowmen help, the chillis I started a few months ago are well into flower, but instead of developing into fruit the flowers are dropping off.
I've been careful to not overwater, and they look really healthy so what the shit is going on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 17:54:11 No.301640 Report

Quoted By: >>301657

>>301630
Lack of pollinators?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 18:19:19 No.301657 Report

Quoted By: >>301714

>>301640
>>301640
I'm pretty new to growing anything, but I was led to believe from somewhere that they were self-pollinating.

I've got habenero (yet to flower), demon red and cayenne varieties growing on my windowsills, and a chenzo and demon red variety growing under lighting.

It's a bit early for bees and stuff yet in this year and the the temps range from about 5c to 17c so they won't survive outside for another month or two yet. So if I want hem to pollinate I'll need to do it by hand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 19:02:38 No.301673 Report

Quoted By: >>301676

I'm going to look for sticks in the nearby forest tomorrow for my peas and yellow beans. The internet suggests 90cm long poles: is that correct?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 19:06:29 No.301676 Report

Quoted By: >>301679

>>301673
What kind of peas and beans? Some get over two meters long, some are bush type and need no support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 19:13:03 No.301679 Report

Quoted By: >>301683

>>301676
I'm not sure about the beans and I can't check the packages because they're in the toolshed and it's already night time over here but the peas are snow peas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 19:21:43 No.301683 Report

Quoted By: >>301692

>>301679
Check your packages and follow directions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 19:40:08 No.301692 Report

Quoted By: >>301716

>>301683
That's what I did though and I don't remember anything about sticks or poles.
However, my grandparents (who did a lot of gardening in their times) told me I needed them and checking the internet only confirm this.

Not to mention, the directions tend to be very vague.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 20:23:39 No.301712 Report

Quoted By:

>>301630
peppers are self pollenating its probably heat or something else doing it
it could also be a nutrient defiency(dont remember which check up on that)

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 20:24:44 No.301714 Report

Quoted By: >>301723

>>301657
yes they are self pollenating you dont need bees for them they have both female and male reprouctive parts
just shake the stem a bit and that should do it

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 20:25:46 No.301716 Report

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>>301692
yes you do have to trellis beans and peas unless you have bush varieties

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 20:35:33 No.301723 Report

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>>301714
Huh, I tried that a little bit, but I'll keep going and see what happens. The ones under the lights are warmer so if it's temp I should know soon enough.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 22:01:27 No.301776 Report

Quoted By: >>301818

>>301468
I thought the same thing too but I selected smaller varieties of some of those herbs so they will grow well within that space. Here is a picture of the box from a few weeks ago when I was working on it and preparing the soil so you can see what it will look like. The uppermost box ws being painted and I attached it earlier this week. I'll go take pictures in a bit of the sprouts outside. They're currently being hardened off and getting used to staying outdoors in a mini greenhouse along with the heat/sun as well as night conditions. The baby plants with tiny leaves or barely showing their true leaves, I bring them in at night and put them under a special plant light then put them back in the greenhouse in the morning until they get bigger and stronger.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 22:23:21 No.301785 Report

Quoted By: >>301791 >>301812

>>301630
How tall is the plant? If its tall enough that the roots are stabilized, then its ok to let it flower. Make sure the plant has enough calcium (do this NOW or else you'll get blossom end rot and ruin a fruit before you can eat it) and you use high Potassium (P) in the N-P-K on fertilizers to ensure you get lots of flowers/buds. You need high P and K to let the fruit set but it might be due to weather conditions. If its too hot or too cold or the weather is fickle, you won't get fruit to set. Also, tap lightly on the flower stem to let it 'jiggle' be GENTLE so you don't break the stem and so you manually pollinate the fruit. Another thing that works is using a paint brush and 'painting' the flower anther and ovary so you ensure the pollination is happening. Another trick is using a vibrating toothbrush (this acts like bumble bees and polinates the flowers). I had a huge problem with my mom's tomato plant that was flowering and not producing fruit (tomatoes and peppers are in the nightshade family so this should work for your peppers too!) and after the weather stablized and with my help, its producing fruit like fucking crazy now! Theres too many tomatoes to count but before, there were like 60 flowers and 3 tomatoes now, all the flowers have developed fruit and I can see maybe 15 tomatoes from far away and barely any flowers left. If you look closer, you'll see much more than 15 tomatoes as they are turning into little green balls below the part where the flowers once were. Good luck, my friend! Also, show us pictures of what you have

Also, if someone can ID what kind of tomatoes these are, please let me know! My mom bought it at a flea market a year ago and I saved it from death twice and its barely starting to fruit now because it wasn't fertilized right. Some tomatoes look like roma tomatoes, some look medium/globe sized and some look like beefsteaks? I have no idea what kind it is and it never came with an ID tag!

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 22:29:43 No.301791 Report

Quoted By: >>301797 >>301812

>>301630
And one more thing, once the flowers have been successfully pollinated, they will let you know by 'closing' and turning a different color just like the middle one in my picture in >>301785. Be sure to keep and eye and remember what those look like so you can help to pollinate the flowers that haven't been pollinated and give them a little tap. Another thing, you can also tell a flower that has been successfully pollinated by tapping on the stem above the flower and when it has produced the fruit (it will be too small to see at this point) the stem hardens and 'firms' so you know its strengthening itself to be able to support the heavy fruit about to come soon. The stems with new flowers are pretty flimsy but when the fruit sets, the stem stiffens up so you know you'll be getting fruit soon. Also be sure to prune your plant the correct way so you redirect its energy to flowering and fruiting. I can't stress the calcium enough... I had blossom end rot before and put calcium supplements and fertilizer in and the bottom of the tomato balls look fine now. Blossom end rot is this ugly black sunken color that ruins fruits as they set and is on the bottom of the fruit when they first form.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 22:39:29 No.301797 Report

Quoted By: >>301803 >>301811 >>301812

>>301791
>>301630
And yet another thing I forgot to mention... make sure that once the fruit sets, water the plant a little more than usual... tomatoes are what, 75-85% water? They feed LOTS so fertilize it well and often and water it a bunch because it will suck the water quickly for all the fruit it produces and you want to be sure that you get big fruits and the plant doesn't dry up. If it does, the fruit will develop scars and cracks which can lead to the fruit being ruined. Its safe to eat, but it will look ugly or diseased if you don't water it well. I used to water every morning or every evening but now i water once in the morning, once at noon, and once at dawn because I can see the plant gets dry pretty quickly and uses the water very fast! The tomato on the left is fine but the one on the right got a scar that turned ugly really quickly and is a black scar on the other side. I also need to pick this soon or else I'll end up with a chewed tomato from a bird or squirrel. One of those bastards ate the first red tomato that developed in December which was very strange. Its finally produced regular fruit normally now. The right tomato is bigger and the left one is smaller.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 22:55:02 No.301803 Report

Quoted By: >>301814

>>301797
Cheers for the help, I'll pick up some fertilizer for fruiting and keep trying the pollination. It's really bloody annoying when 4 months in one plant has lost about 30 flowers in less than a week.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 23:09:32 No.301811 Report

Quoted By: >>301818 >>301893

>>301797
>watering everyday
wont that produce shallow weak roots? i just cleaned my garden bed 2 weeks ago and when pulling out all the dead tomato plants from last year on every single one the roots grew laterally to the soil about 1-2 inches deep. and im talking thick healthy 6in long roots but all horizontal and thus requiring everyday watering because after a couple of days the first 2 inches of soil dries out. is it not better to water a lot once a week to get deep strong roots and also give the plant access to more earth and minerals that way?

also does anyone have a good formula as to how much water is needed per square foot, they say 1-2 inches a week is what is required but when trying out all the different formulas out there i got anywhere between 250-800 gallons a week for my 500sq ft garden

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 23:12:57 No.301812 Report

Quoted By: >>301818

>>301785
>>301791
>>301797
Sorry, I don't take advice from plebs who use cages and don't prune their plants.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 23:15:22 No.301814 Report

Quoted By: >>302090

>>301803
Right on. I'd say get Miracle Gro Shake-N-Feed (its granular fertilizer) that contains calcium or Espoma Tomato Tone (also granular and contains calcium). I'm telling you this because they don't sell 'Pepper Fertilizer' by name but tomato and pepper plants are from the same Nightshade family so it should work for your pepper plants and be sure to use high P and K in the N-P-K fertilizers (you want the 2nd and 3rd numbers higher than the first) to make sure you get shitloads of flowers and you are able to self-pollinate those and then once its fruiting, you be sure that theres calcium in the plant and it has high K (potassium) to ensure healthy fruits. Yeah I had the flower drop problem but its been a constant 75-85F (23.8-29.4C) which is optimum temperature for pollen to be produced in the flowers. Anything above 90F or if the weather isn't consistent will cause flowers to drop, OR it might be that you need to self pollinate the flowers yourself like I did! Also, make sure you show us the pictures too!

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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 23:20:51 No.301818 Report

Quoted By: >>301894

>>301811
The tomato plant in question is inside a container. I know when it gets dry because I have a clay worm that sticks out and turns light brown when the soil is dry and also I can see the mulch layer on top is dry. The tomato plant drinks LOTS of water.

>>301812
That is my mom's plant. She bought it with the cage already included with the plant and I do prune it but it gets bushy very quickly. I'm going to prune it again this weekend. I'm starting my own tomato plants (5 of them) all from seed and they're going into the ground in this box here: >>301776. I'm planning on using a wire trellis for that one as I'm growing Burpee Supersteak Hybrid monsters (avg. 1-2 lbs each), Roma Grande, Big Boy Hybrid, Heatwave II Hybrid, and Super Beefsteak tomatoes for slicing and for making delicious pizza sauce this summer!

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 02:13:08 No.301875 Report

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>>301468
And here are the pictures I promised you earlier of the plants that are growing. The 'main' veggies herbs and flowers (that sprouted) are in the back in 3.5" Jiffy peat pots while (mostly) carrots are in the front in that 36-ct starter tray along with some other things. It will be about a month or so until these guys are strong enough to be transplanted but they are getting well-adjusted to the heat/temperature and night in the greenhouse this week which is a good sign. I need to bring some of the babies inside in a bit as its getting dark now and they still need a plant light before they can fend off the outdoors on their own.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 02:53:55 No.301893 Report

Quoted By: >>301924

>>301811
>also does anyone have a good formula as to how much water is needed per square foot, they say 1-2 inches a week is what is required but when trying out all the different formulas out there i got anywhere between 250-800 gallons a week for my 500sq ft garden

by the week:

one cubic foot is a cube that's one foot in width, depth, and length

one inch watering equals 1/12 cubic foot water per square foot of garden

that means 12 square feet of garden translate into one cubic foot of water

one cubic foot is about 7.5 gallons

that means twelve square feet use 7.5 gallons for a watering depth of one inch

so square feet divided by twelve and multiplied by seven and a half gives the amount of water consumed per one inch watering depth

seven point five divided by twelve is zero point six two five

so...

multiply the square feet of your garden by 0.625 to get the amount of water used to water it to a 1" depth

for 500 square feet that comes to 312.5 gallons for every inch depth you water

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 02:56:38 No.301894 Report

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>>301818
pull some tomatoes green and make chow-chow

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 04:17:23 No.301924 Report

Quoted By: >>301972 >>301980

>>301893
For those of you who are visual learners...

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 06:39:28 No.301972 Report

Quoted By: >>301980 >>302023

>>301924
oopsie, easier to erase that three on a whiteboard, glad I looked back at it

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 06:50:20 No.301980 Report

Quoted By: >>301985

>>301972
>>301924
this is actually very cool and I meant to get scientifically 'technical' once I install it, but, is it necessary that I need to delve back into a basic Fluid Mechanics course (with respect to control volume analysis) I took in the university and Differential Equations in order to install a drip irrigation system? I fucking hated both courses so I don't know if I will need to remember all that stuff when I set up the drip irrigation and cut the tubes and buy the hose connectors.... I'm somewhat dreading that moment because I have a feeling it might get crazy having to set it up with 40-50 end outlets for the water and connecting a hose-splitter to the main water line....

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 06:59:56 No.301985 Report

Quoted By: >>301987 >>301994

>>301980
>is it necessary that I need to delve back into a basic Fluid Mechanics course (with respect to control volume analysis) I took in the university and Differential Equations in order to install a drip irrigation system?
Gosh, no. Just drill smaller (like a sixteenth of an inch, not much) holes nearer the source and larger holes further down. Start small with all of them so you can adjust with a cordless drill. And consider using clear poly tube and cpvc to make the system because you can heat the end of a piece of 5/8 (iirc, check sizes in the store) poly tube and it'll stretch over the 3/4" cpvc and make a nice seal when it cools. It's also cheap that way because you can use cpvc crosses and tees for splitting your supply.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 07:00:58 No.301987 Report

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>>301985
Damn, I'm tired. You can heat the poly tube in boiling water to make it pliable so it'll fit over the cpvc.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 07:08:35 No.301994 Report

Quoted By: >>302000

>>301985
I bought this STUPIDLY cheap ($5.99 USD) Drip Irrigation kit (so cheap that I bought 2 and might go back to buy a couple more) at Harbor Freight: http://www.harborfreight.com/irrigation-drip-kit-46095.html I saw a similar kit at Wal Mart for $14.99 and that one didn't even include the drip tube so I know I scored such a fucking awesome deal (its cheaper for me to buy a whole kit for $5.99 INCLUDING the drip tube AND parts rather than buy individual parts). Drilling/setting up isn't the problem... its just that I saw stuff on the package like rates in 'gallons per hour' and 'gallons per day' so I started worrying that if I'm going to have 40-50 output/drip nozzles for my garden box, I will need to think of setting it up from the main house faucet line (via a Y-Splitter) and then having to keep one end always on (since I won't be home) and then I would have to treat this like a huge differential equation along with a 40-50 output Control Volume Analysis problem and then I started to shit my pants dreading of the day when I actually set it up... thankfully the plants aren't transplanted yet but I'm gonna have to do this within the month or so.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 07:27:59 No.302000 Report

Quoted By: >>302002

>>301994
Just use a timer or follow what most of the people doing reviews have written and use a rain barrel. You can connect a swamp cooler float or a toilet float to a five gallon bucket and let the water weight from the bucket provide the pressure.

Or you could just tinker a bit until you're happy with it. Stuff like that dies in the sun here, I didn't think about one when I was thinking of a drip system. My garden is fairly large with lots of rows and I'll probably irrigate with grey pvc conduit and poly hose for connections and simple clamps like pic related on the poly hose for volume control. I want to put my system underground except where the water comes out and that'll be in the bottom of the rows. I'm not big on trip hazards.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 07:38:41 No.302002 Report

Quoted By: >>302004

>>302000
I'm setting up this garden at my folks' house. I'm moving away soon (I need a job and the money) so I'm going back to my old university to work and eventually get into graduate school but since the buildings are packed and so close to one another, I (sadly) can't take my seedlings and plants with me to the city when I move back out so I need to install a drip irrigation system (parents are lazy and forgetful) to take care of the plants throughout the week and the best option is the drip irrigation system. I don't want to do timed sprinklers because these are baby plants and I don't want the foliage getting wet so that won't work. I'm in Southern California so theres no rain either which is another problem.

Luckily I found that cheap as hell drip irrigation system. Use my link and seriously consider buying one or a couple from Harbor Freight if you have em near you or just order online! I'm also thinking of doing 'underground' drip irrigation system at my folks' house too... I'd like to remake their front yard into an awesome flowerbed with my mom's favorite flowers, my backyard veggie and herb box, and another section of the backyard that I'm eventually going to make into a special berry patch. I know I can shallow dig and set up the drip tubes to go under the lawn so them, the dogs, or nobody else trips on them and I can move and come back on the weekends to lush veggies and flowers and do routine stuff like pick the crops and prune them.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 07:47:39 No.302004 Report

Quoted By: >>302009

>>302002
>Southern California so theres no rain either which is another problem
I can sympathize there. We get about 14 inches a year on average. This year we're at less than half an inch. Fortunately, we're about to move from Windy to Tornado, which is the season where we get the most precip. (Hot as Hades follows Tornado and is followed by Freeze Yer Balls Off). The kids I teach have no concept of what Spring really is. Spring here's just the same as the last month of Winter, but with blowing sand.

Good luck with your garden, sir, and I hope you can get that tuned before you have to go. I'll plant and get serious about irrigation in a couple of weeks, we're still expecting one more freeze.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 07:58:09 No.302009 Report

Quoted By: >>302023 >>302176

>>302004
>We get about 14 inches a year on average.
I meant to ask this to one of my professors when I was in undergrad but completely forgot... I saw those "rain barrells" and "rain meters" but I know they're just tiny thermometers and watching the news seeing "0.15 inches of rain (when it does happen) I thought.. "thats absolutely nothing!" because my thought is that a couple drops of rain will quickly fill up a vial with "inch" markers and then I thought those 'meter readings' are obviously overestimated when you think of a huge landmass and compensate for the area size to ACTUALLY say that "in inch of rain" actually covered the area... can you fill me in on how they do this (and also so how I can do this for the plants that I'm caring for that specifically require "an inch of rain per week" or the like? I wasn't sure on what to believe or what to go with!) You teach kids too? Thats awesome! I didn't want to be a teacher but educating others and making it easier for them to understand is a powerful feeling and something I learned when I was helping some colleagues at a local college! Now I'd like to delve into that for a bit.

Yeah, there was also tornado warnings here in Southern California last month it scared me shitless but luckily it passed. Be safe in your area too... you can do it! I don't know much about freezes but I do sympathize! I remember briefly from a chemistry class about citrus crop growers spraying down their trees with water to insulate from freezing... I hope it isn't as bad for you but just remember to mulch well and that should help the root systems for you too in the cold.... my tomato plant (in this thread) produced its first ever red fruit in December which was strange but it was cold then. I wish you well on your gardening and your crops too!

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 08:20:26 No.302023 Report

Quoted By: >>302030 >>302180

>>302009
>how I can do this for the plants that I'm caring for that specifically require "an inch of rain per week" or the like?
Finding out how much water you're putting on your stuff is amazingly difficult. Put an empty tuna can where it's in an area that gets about average irrigation. Irrigate until it's full. Turn it over and pour it out and then set it down again. Wait a few days and repeat. A tuna can is about an inch deep. When it's full you've irrigated an inch.

>then I thought those 'meter readings' are obviously overestimated when you think of a huge landmass and compensate for the area size to ACTUALLY say that "in inch of rain" actually covered the area...

It's cotton country here and accurate rain gauges are everywhere. You just take a known area of a surface (like the top of your gauge) and measure the amount of rain that fell on it then compute for the depth dimension. Look at the picture I made in >>301972. Look at the top center cube. Imagine you have a square piece of metal with a small raised lip and a drain on the bottom and something to catch the water when it drains. Just put a box on that cube. Now you take the L*W*D=V and solve for Depth, giving D=V/(L*W). You know V, L, and W, so just punch them in and get an answer. Or get a gauge that does the math for you. Pic related is pretty accurate and easy to read.

>You teach kids too?
Self-contained special education for the kids too affected to mainstream. CP, ED, Autism, plain old MR, I gots lots of 'em. And I love the hell out of my job.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 08:30:42 No.302030 Report

Quoted By: >>302031 >>302062 >>302093

>>302023
If I did the tuna can thing, it would fill up (during a rain episode) within 5-30 minutes easily. The depth is not an issue and its already set on those 'rain gauges' so its hard for me to know how or why they make those gauges like that or what "an inch of rain" really means.

My guess is that if I lived elsewhere, maybe I;d have a differet perspective on waht the rain gauges mean and I'm going to have to test this out when going somewhere else but yeah, here in SoCal, the readings are definitely off because when it rains, it RAINS, and when it doesn't, its dry as hell! maybe thats why I think the readings are off on those gauges?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 08:31:59 No.302031 Report

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>>302030
oh and those are the rain/clay/worm gauges that I'm talking about and helps me water my plants! forgot to mention that in the preivous post

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 11:33:10 No.302062 Report

Quoted By: >>302093 >>302185

>>302030
An inch of rain is just that: enough water fallen from precipitation over a given area to cover that area one inch deep with water. It's going to be heavier in some spots and lighter in others, but that's the average.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 13:46:04 No.302090 Report

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>>301814
please dont use chemical fertilizers like miracle grow that crap destroys your soil and water runoff
just use compost or manure for fertilizer ive never had a problem with it

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 13:48:07 No.302091 Report

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>tfw getting volunteer pumpkins/potatoes/carrots literally everywhere
feels good not having to put any effort at all into producing

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 13:49:52 No.302093 Report

Quoted By: >>302185

>>302062
>>302030
rain gauges really arent necessary, just collect rainwater and you wont have to worry or care about how many inches you are getting

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 16:47:36 No.302123 Report

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I just transplanted my tomato plants in bigger pots because it's still fucking snowing. How soon will I know if I fucked up? Will they start wilting?

I only transplanted a few today in case I screwed up the technique.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 21:03:53 No.302176 Report

Quoted By: >>302180 >>302185

>>302009
Think about it. Say you have a container with straight walls, and after a rainstorm it has a depth of 1 inch of water. If the container was half the size, it would have had only half as much water, but half as much area to collect water with, and it would also be 1 inch. It doesn't matter how wide a rain gauge is, just that it has straight walls (slanted walls will give inaccurate readings because the capture area is larger or smaller than the measuring area

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 21:14:59 No.302180 Report

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>>302176
>slanted walls will give inaccurate readings because the capture area is larger or smaller than the measuring area
This can be used to your advantage, as in >>302023. The larger area feeding a smaller tube allows the graduations on the cylinder to be exaggerated so you can read it more easily and accurately.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Apr 2014 21:22:23 No.302185 Report

Quoted By:

>>302062
>>302093
>>302176
I have this graduated cylinder here that goes up to 100mL and it has increments in milliliters. I've seen the rain gauges but likewise, they are listed in inches (instead of milliliters). The problem I have is that I know the next time it rains, if I put this outside, it would fill up all the way to 100mL and overfill. Same with most of those rain gauges in inches. Where I get confused is I think "wow, it filled up all the way! Did we really have X inches of rain??" then I turn on the news and the weather forecaster says "we had 0.15 inches of rain this week which is alot less than usual" and I think about my rain gauge that had, say 9-10 inches of rain and overfilled and wonder why the news guy said it was 0.15 inches (or some ridiculously small amount that disagrees with what I see in person so I figured there was a more scientific way of doing this when they talk about rainfall in big cities (or similarly, how many "inches of water" are needed for a plant like the tomatoes)

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 05:28:58 No.302304 Report

Quoted By: >>302396

Hey homegrowmen

I have a question. Say I wanted to clone a cherry or apple tree in my yard into a container. Would planting a shoot in some soil work, or is there a specific part/method involved? What time of year or blossom would be best?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 12:32:04 No.302396 Report

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>>302304
yeah, you might want to get a little root tone also
oh, try using new growth aswell(tender green shoots) the harder the wood is the harder it is to root so you want fresh new growth to improve chances by a lot(think you can still use old growth but its a lot harder with higher failure chances)

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 15:46:20 No.302460 Report

Quoted By: >>302527

My sister bought me some carolina reaper pepper seeds.
Should I directly plant them in the soil or do the paper towel method?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 17:36:11 No.302527 Report

Quoted By: >>302531

>>302460
directly or start them in starter pots

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 17:40:01 No.302531 Report

Quoted By: >>302623

>>302527
Any reason why starter pots are better than paper towel method?
has it do with the paper rotting away if the seeds take a lot of time to germinate?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 20:04:26 No.302605 Report

Quoted By: >>302621

Thread is dying, it is past 300 posts and can't be bumped.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 20:33:31 No.302621 Report

Quoted By: >>302632

>>302605
i was wondering why it kept going farther and farther on the catalog

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 20:36:26 No.302623 Report

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>>302531
they really arent its just preference, i would seed them directly into the ground actually but i just have terrible luck with peppers and tomatoes like that

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>>302621
Someone needs to make the next thread. And, if those pirate bay links are reposted, all the .sx needs to be .se

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New thread

>>302821

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