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Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 04:37:21 No.321916 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>321947 >>322035 >>322054 >>323654

Hey /out/, I'm looking for some essential day hiking equipment recommendations.

Currently trying to find a good waterproof & breathable boot. Tried on the Vasque Breeze's today (pic related) Comfy as fuck. Anyone have a bad time with these? Also going to try on some Hanwag's tomorrow. The Hörndl's are pretty fly looking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 04:42:42 No.321920 Report

Quoted By: >>321922 >>321930 >>322054 >>322219

there is no boot better than your foot. this is what we walked on for millions of years before the shoe was invented. if you are worried about punctures wear a thin sandal or shoe. your feet will fell better, your legs will be stronger, and you will become more aware of your surroundings.

many hikers will tell you that you need boots for ankle support but there is little to no evidence to back up this claim.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 04:45:46 No.321922 Report

Quoted By: >>321939

>>321920
Word? Everyone's been telling me how important good boots and socks are.

Also the Hanwag's I'm looking at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 05:03:12 No.321930 Report

Quoted By: >>321944

>>321920
People like you amuse me. We've been doing a lot of things, as a species, before we invented technology to do it better.

We spent a long, long time having an average lifespan of twenty years, too. Please go back to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 05:21:26 No.321939 Report

Quoted By: >>321952 >>322223

>>321922
Trail runners. good socks(merino/smartwool). Dirty girl gaiters. There is no such thing as waterproof so dont even bother. Keep the weight on your feet light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 05:28:11 No.321944 Report

Quoted By: >>321955

>>321930
the average lifespan is a poor argument. in the past people rarely survived infancy. if they did they had a good chance of living a long time. they also remained healthy and active until death which most people do not do today. some of the lowest life expectancies were believed to occur shortly after the invention of agriculture anyway.

but please, continue to spend hundreds of dollars on unnecessary footwear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 05:32:56 No.321947 Report

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>>321916

I bought a $30 pair of Nevados Boomerang Boots and gave them a good coat of Tent Waterproof Spray. I've put many miles on them since last fall and they're still with me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 05:41:32 No.321952 Report

Quoted By: >>321953

>>321939
Absolutely this. No need to boot up for day hiking. Arguably no need to boot up anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 05:45:46 No.321953 Report

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>>321952
Indeed, ive hiked all over the sierras and ive alwas worn trail runners. In fact I do believe high top, heavy, restrictive boots lead to more ankle and knee injuries than anything else due to the boots not allowing natural give and movement

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 05:47:51 No.321955 Report

Quoted By: >>321970

>>321944
It's a never. ending. list. If they didn't die in infancy. If they didn't die of malnutrition. If they didn't die from snake bites. Or whatever.

"we didn't used to need" is a shitty fucking argument. If you want to object to footwear. LIST ACTUAL REASONS WHY. Why is it better not to wear shoes? What are the downsides?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 07:01:18 No.321970 Report

Quoted By: >>322038 >>322213

>>321955
he default state of humans is to not wear shoes. it is you who should be convincing me why i need them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 12:02:35 No.322035 Report

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>>321916
Columbia mid-hikers. Feel like good high-top sneakers, solid footbed, last longer than you'd expect a shoe with that much canvas to last. Not great ankle support, but I mainly wear shoes because stickers suck and I go innadesert where there are nasty stickers and bugs.

Necromancer

Necromancer Sat 24 May 2014 12:19:57 No.322038 Report

Quoted By: >>323188

>>321970

Shoes protect the soles of our feet from wear and tear and even cuts which can lead to life threatening infections. They also have synthetic grip which is better for less-than-ideal surfaces so we are less likely to slip and suffer injury. They give ankle support so that you are less likely to hurt your ankle if you DO fall over and they also can provide a layer of defence from snakes, spiders, scorpions etc...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 14:16:25 No.322054 Report

Quoted By: >>323188

>>321916

Don't listen to
>>321920

A good pair of boots will last you a decade and do give ankle support, warmth, waterproofing and comfort.

Leather boots will last longer but will be slightly heavier than synthetic materials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 17:04:19 No.322099 Report

Quoted By: >>322215

Humans originally evolved in the savanahs of africa where the soft grass could gently break the soles in. I ain't going on a hike thbrough the cascades without some leather on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 20:05:05 No.322206 Report

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Anyone have any experience with the Timberland Men's Mt. Maddsen Hiker Boot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 20:42:45 No.322213 Report

Quoted By: >>323188

>>321970
The default state of humans is to shit on ourselves and lack the ability to do pretty much anything else as well.

There's no inteligent argument against protective footwear outdoors. You must not leave the concrete jungle often if you think it's practical to go around barefoot in the woods, or many other natural habitats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 20:45:49 No.322215 Report

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>>322099
WRONG.

humans were naked when god made us, and we only started wearing clothes after becoming wise to out nakedness after eating from the tree of knowledge.

Duh bybool ses so

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 20:53:20 No.322219 Report

Quoted By: >>323188

>>321920
Yet, we have incredibly weak ankles. Maybe this was due to covering the feet for protection. I don't know, but our feet are pretty sensitive considering.

Personally, OP. I wear combat boots with a flexible upper. Gives my feet and ankles enough room to rotate or do what they do. I hear a lot of people just wear all terrain sneakers.

Really, you just want your feet to be comfortable. If you like a certain boot particularly, then just get em. Try them out for yourself.

I bought a pair of Merrell chameleon III's or something like that, and they are wicked fucking comfortable, but the sole started coming apart in the front, and they aren't waterproof.

Buy some waterproofer. Spray a nice layer on there and you should be all set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 20:57:40 No.322223 Report

Quoted By: >>322247

>>321939
>Dirty girl gaiters.
Seriously? Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 May 2014 21:50:32 No.322247 Report

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>>322223
gaiters are awesome
>no bugs in your socks
>no dirt in your socks
>no poison ivy on your ankles
>less bramble-scratches on your ankles
>easy on/off

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 May 2014 01:35:54 No.322298 Report

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+1 for trail runners.

waterproof and breathable are mutually exclusive, regardless of what the shoe claims. better to go light and thin so that they just dry quickly. I jusr bought a pair of vasque mindbenders and they're awesome on trails. hell on hard surfaces, though (made the mistake of trying them out at work where I walk all day on hard linoleum tile) I chose them because they have a VERY stiff sole and i'm going to be using them for quite a bit of talus hopping. I wear them with just my regular costso socks and they're awesome. and gaiters are retarded for day hiking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 May 2014 22:17:45 No.323188 Report

Quoted By: >>323363 >>324450

>>322038
i go barefoot a lot, even in the woods and my feet never get cuts on them. my bare feet grip better than any shoe or boot i have ever worn, especially in mud or water. there is little evidence showing high top shoes protect against ankle injury. my eyes and ears protect me from hazards.

>>322213
try it sometime you might like it. it is actually more dangerous in urban areas though because of trash, broken glass and other pollution everywhere.

>>322054
ankle support is a myth, comfort is subjective and my skin is already waterproof. the only reasons to wear shoes are warmth, which is only needed sometimes and protection from punctures which is an exaggerated concern.

>>322219
speak for yourself, my ankles are very strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 May 2014 22:50:21 No.323217 Report

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KEEN MASTER RACE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 03:57:11 No.323363 Report

Quoted By: >>323501

>>323188
Grip, protection from punctures and abrasion are all very relevant depending on the terrain. I have also actually had severe blisters from walking on rocks that were heated by the sun.

I own flip flops, minimal shoes (5 pairs, love them), trail runner, gtx hiking boots, leather backpacking boots, and full mountaineering boots. I use all of them depending on what is required.

I wish I could walk around barefoot always, but it is simply not practical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 12:54:29 No.323501 Report

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>>323363
>rocks that were heated by the sun
this is another problem which i forgot about. when it starts getting realy hot or cold i usually wear a minimalist shoe.

i don't like flip flops because i have to actively tighten my toes to keep them on. i prefer sandals which hook over my heel.

>I wish I could walk around barefoot always, but it is simply not practical.
sometimes it is easier to wear shoes but there are people in some parts of the world who live their entire lives without ever putting on a shoe so it is certainly possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 13:36:12 No.323511 Report

Quoted By: >>323512 >>323515 >>323524

quick semi-related question. Do you guys have any recommendations on what to read on walking technique to gain efficiency and spend energy optimally? I get tired very fast when walking yet I am conditioned and strong due to weightlifting and cycling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 13:38:30 No.323512 Report

Quoted By: >>323514 >>323516 >>323524

>>323511
Hike more.

Necromancer

Necromancer Tue 27 May 2014 13:41:27 No.323514 Report

Quoted By: >>323516

>>323512

This. There's nothing else to it but practice. And so... Get /out/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 13:41:48 No.323515 Report

Quoted By: >>323516

>>323511
yes but that doest answer my question. I could squat more to increase squat strength and it will be beneficial but I would definately benefit from correct form: pushing knees out, bracing core, which will increase squat strenghth by using muscles efficiently. Isn't it the same about any physical activity, including walking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 13:42:50 No.323516 Report

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>>323515
>>323512
>>323514

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 14:13:41 No.323524 Report

Quoted By: >>323534

>>323511

Lifting will not help condition yourself for hiking. A skinny physique is much more suited to hiking, marathons etc.

As
>>323512
says, would be my only suggestion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 14:36:55 No.323534 Report

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>>323524
I disagree, to some extends strength training helps in low intensity cardio, like distance running, etc. I cant provide citations for I didn't save the links, but there were studies showing that. (see leg size on cyclers, which they train in gym to help in theyr sport)
Anyway I was asking about stuff like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY88G1xgDGM
Thanks for feedback though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 20:00:23 No.323654 Report

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>>321916
I have those boots OP, and they're baller as fuhhhhhhhhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 21:39:56 No.323695 Report

Quoted By: >>323873 >>324479

Hey /out/, can you rec me some boots with the following:
-all leather boots
-medium weight
-stiffness with attraction sole
-firm toes
-medium height
-waterproof
-around $100

I need these for hiking in Colorado. Im grateful for any help. Thanks in advance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 03:58:41 No.323873 Report

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>>323695
Skip the leather
Go lighter
?
?
Low tops are dandy
No such thing as waterproof
Should be able to find something decent at that price

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 17:28:00 No.324072 Report

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this past weekend I did the 24 hour four state challenge. This August my group is going up to Maine to backpack through the 100 mile wilderness. I had a pair of Merrills, but they fell apart after a year. So now I use Vasque breezes, Smartwool hikers, and smartfeet insoles. Anyways, on this recent hike, I got two blisters that were a bit bigger than almond sized. I wore the same smartwools in my merrells. Other than that, the vasques felt really nice. They were also reletively new, so that was my first mistake, but my merrells are dead, so there was no using them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 18:09:09 No.324085 Report

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waterproof and breathable is self defeating, you'll be hiking in sweat. get some scarpa sparks and trekking poles

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 May 2014 13:25:46 No.324450 Report

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>>323188
I'm kind of imagining you on a hike stripping off all your clothes, stuffing them in the car, and taking off.

By the by, ankle support isn't a myth if you have shitty feet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 May 2014 15:02:38 No.324479 Report

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>>323695
Look at Hi-tec altitude boots. Meets all of your criteria. I have been thrashing around in this brand for years without any significant problems.

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