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Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 21:44:55 No.434701 View View Reply Original Report

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taking my dog out and want him to carry his own weight, i have a pack for him ive read he can carry 25 % of his own weight so about 10 pounds he half pit bull half shar pei 60 pounds, how do i get him used to the weight?

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Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 21:48:34 No.434705 Report

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You're going to fuck up your dog's hips/knees/back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 21:51:13 No.434707 Report

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>>434701
>want him to carry his own weight

Ask him first, or leave it at home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 21:58:33 No.434712 Report

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>>434701
Hip dysplasia
If you want an animal to carry loads for you get a pack mule.

op Sun 21 Dec 2014 22:33:36 No.434740 Report

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>>434701
its only 10 pounds people, his food.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 22:34:35 No.434742 Report

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>>434712
This.
Big dogs get this as it is. I wouldn't increase the likelihood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 22:35:54 No.434743 Report

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>>434701
take a goat. dogs arent pack animals, they're hunters and guards

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op Sun 21 Dec 2014 22:41:10 No.434749 Report

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>>434742
hes not big, medium size dog

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Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 22:54:52 No.434755 Report

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>>434740
If he is not conditioned to carry loads don't put that much on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 22:56:35 No.434758 Report

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>>434749
He's cute, get a little cart for him to pull

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 22:58:22 No.434760 Report

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Dogs are not pack animals, and they have not evolved to walk all day long, like people have. If I'm taking a dog on a hike, then I plan my trip to cover fewer miles each day, and break up the day with rest periods. Most dogs are able to do what you're asking, but there are a lot of reasons why it's bad for their health.

>>434740
>its only 10 pounds people, his food
On a 60-70 pound animal, that's more than you might think. If it were really that light, then you would carry it yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 23:01:24 No.434761 Report

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>>434749
Pit bulls still get it. Every dog bigger than mine is big to me. She's only 7 pounds.
http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/canine-hip-dysplasia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 23:42:30 No.434797 Report

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>>434760
well ive taken him on 10 miles walks before but he didnt have any weight on him, i just want him to carry 10 pounds and ill carry around 15 i just want him to have as much food as possible. im putting 5 pounds on him everyday right now with his pack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Dec 2014 23:47:12 No.434800 Report

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>>434797
Talk to a vet. What you're talking about is just not well advised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 00:03:59 No.434807 Report

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How old is your dog? Has he been neutered (growth plates might not have closed yet if so)?
If he is over two years old you can slowly start conditioning him to carry small loads. Stick with 5lbs for now and maybe several months down the line you can work up to 10.
If he is under two years, just let him wear the empty backpack. You really don't want to fuck up your dog by being overeager.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 00:25:09 No.434810 Report

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>>434740

Exactly.

Pack it yourself, you weak fuck. The dog's on recce duty. YOU'RE the supply train.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 00:30:39 No.434814 Report

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>>434701
What breed is it? Stacks of dogs just couldn't do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 00:34:47 No.434818 Report

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>>434749
Oh just saw you posted a pic, even 5 pounds will fuck that dog, either don't go over 2 pounds or get one of those carry exoskeletons for him and load it with 20 pounds. He'll probably hate it though you need to get him using it as a pup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 03:04:21 No.434866 Report

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>>434800
This.
Or ask >>>/an/ for advice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 05:15:50 No.434906 Report

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>>434807
i think hes 2 might be a little less and hasnt been neutered
>>434814
hes a sharpei pitbull mix

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 05:30:21 No.434911 Report

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>Being a dog owner
>Not giving him/her nothing but the best game you find while on the trail.

It's like you're a murderer or something.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 07:50:23 No.434937 Report

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>>434701
Dude, how is it that you are seriously considering this? Are you that dense?

I've got a better idea though. Why don't you build a saddle. That way you can carry all his items and then ride him when you get tired of walking... you know, because a dog and a donkey are one in the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 10:44:50 No.434985 Report

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>>434937
What is wrong with having the dog carry it's own weight? All they need to put in it is food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 11:20:54 No.435005 Report

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>>434985
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pack_goat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 11:22:37 No.435007 Report

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>>434985
A healthy and fit pack goat can carry up to 25 percent of its weight and walk up to about 12 miles per day depending on its load weight, the terrain, and the animal's conditioning.[3] They are generally less expensive to own and operate than other pack animals since they are natural browsing animals and can feed themselves along the way

Goats are domesticated herd animals. They will usually stay near camp and follow their human masters on the trail, much as dogs will, without having to be leashed or tethered.[2] They are generally used in wilderness camping settings.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 11:45:14 No.435012 Report

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>>434743

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 11:51:54 No.435014 Report

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>>434743

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 12:03:45 No.435017 Report

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>>434743

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 14:08:40 No.435074 Report

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Are all the trolls from /an/ here?? Jesus christ...

>>434701
Your dog will be fine OP, it's not like he's gonna be hauling the weight 24/7. I don't like to carry over 20%of my body weight, I shoot for 15%. Being a pit/sharpei he has a good strength to weight ratio.
But besides all that I don't think his gear will get near 10lbs anyway. My Dog's gear weighs in at around 5lbs including her pack, sleeping bag, and ground cloth. (So in summer it'd weigh about 3lbs less). Add to that dry food at about 1 pound a day...

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 14:13:12 No.435076 Report

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Half pitbull/half shar pei

Jesus, how did you manage to train that monster?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 17:00:27 No.435124 Report

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>>434797
you're going /out/ with your dog

just kill something and let him eat it

get him dewormed afterwards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 18:44:38 No.435146 Report

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>>435076
It was hard still is he is stubborn as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 19:52:32 No.435162 Report

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God damn why is everybody such a nazi about putting weight on a dog?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 19:57:14 No.435163 Report

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Everyone should post their dogs and dog gear.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 20:16:15 No.435169 Report

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>>435163
ok

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 21:04:36 No.435193 Report

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>>435017
that's not his companion, that's his lunch.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 21:56:18 No.435211 Report

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>>435146
>>435146
>stubborn as fuck

Haha yup. I have a half shar pei half basset hound and he is sneaky/manipulative as fuck

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 22:39:54 No.435225 Report

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 22:40:57 No.435226 Report

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>>435225

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 22:41:58 No.435228 Report

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>>435226

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 22:43:07 No.435229 Report

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>>435228

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 22:44:10 No.435230 Report

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>>435229

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 22:45:20 No.435231 Report

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>>435230

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 22:56:14 No.435234 Report

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The same way you would a cat, minus the tree climbing.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Dec 2014 23:27:27 No.435249 Report

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>>435169
how much weight is on him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 00:51:55 No.435262 Report

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>>435169
>that face

someone get a zoomed in screenshot of that

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Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 00:55:51 No.435265 Report

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>>435262

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Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 01:00:19 No.435267 Report

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>>435265
>step up nigga.png

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Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 01:34:42 No.435284 Report

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>>435267

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Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 01:39:33 No.435288 Report

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>>435265
>>435284
perfect

>A-SHIGGY-DOGGY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 05:11:08 No.435384 Report

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>>435012
The poor dog can barely stand up under all that weight.
>>435017
>>435014
Sleds and sledges =/= backpacks. What an animal is able to transport by having a load pull backwards against it and what an animal is able to transport by having a load weigh down on all its limbs are two separate things.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 05:14:35 No.435390 Report

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>>435169
>>435225
>>435226
>>435228
>>435229
>>435230
>>435231
Just because people do a thing does not make it a good idea. A dog can survive a walk with a backpack on, but their joints will wear out significantly faster if you make them do this too often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 06:24:41 No.435437 Report

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>>435390
>>just beacuse you can walk un-aided does not make it a good idea you can a survive few miles
but your joints will wear out significantly faster if you do this too often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 09:23:32 No.435485 Report

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>>435249
about 10 lbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 09:25:43 No.435486 Report

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>>435249
about 7 lbs. two little water bladders on either side and some dried food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Dec 2014 04:38:33 No.435796 Report

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>>435437
true but you're making the decision to wear out your joints whereas the dog is doing what it's told

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 12:48:04 No.437543 Report

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I hike all the time with my 60 lb dog she loves her pack. But have the dog carry things u don't mind losing. U carry the dogs food. They can lose the packs some times. So any thing u want but don't need that's what the dog carrys.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 18:07:12 No.437640 Report

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>>434701
he is smaller than a rottie or newfie but maybe he could carry it in a small cart?

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Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2014 02:40:55 No.437865 Report

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"Can carry" does not mean "can easily carry". I'm sure you could carry 25%+ of your weight all day and I'm also sure you wouldn't like it. Go with 10% or less to keep your dog comfortable. Bipeds have better skeletal structure for carrying things than quadrupeds so keep that in mind.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2014 04:05:31 No.437905 Report

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>>434797
if you can't carry 25 pounds by yourself then you probably need to train more until you can. If you don't want to carry 25 pounds then you're probably not going to want to train. Just stay home.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2014 05:17:00 No.437929 Report

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Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2014 05:53:32 No.437937 Report

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>>437929
Very useful actually, thanks

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