>>441575Maybe it's different where you are, but I don't know a SINGLE "self sufficient" individual who is against starting out with a cache of store bought canned goods. I know some people who don't have it NOW, but that's because they have reached the point where they DO produce all the food they need in a year... and it takes YEARS to get to that point.
I've NEVER seen someone give someone else shit for having a bad year and needing to go out and acquire more food. Care packages of home-canned vegetables, and the occasional live chicken, yes. Real shit? No.
I assume you still want to be "on the grid' when it comes to internet. And roads.
The rest is a huge variable. Do you want to haul in gas and propane, and have a lower up front cost, but higher costs over the next thirty years, or have a Twenty to thirty thousand USD up front buy in for a solar system that will run everything for the next thirty years?
Are you building a small cabin or paying people to help build a mansion.
I'd go with a solar 6Kw system, personally, which will run you about $18k usd.
I'd go with Sundanzer 12/24v chest freezers, (around 450 watt hours a day, for the 5.8cu foot, it can run for two-three standard 80W panels in most climates, and even if you do NO other solar, this is worth the money).
Induction hot plates operate at about 900w-1400 w per burner. (100 each, more or less, and fantastic for the price).
I'd go with a microwave/convection oven. (Good ones have not only a 1,200 w microwave, but a separate 1,500w convection oven circuit. It's a real, decent quality electric oven). For a $600 or so.
I'd get a 50-80 gallon electric water heater (3-5Kw, and about $600), and use that as the storage chamber for a solar water heater system. (a couple of watts for a pump, $600 or so). Most of the time, the solar will do all the heating you need. If you have a lot of people showering or whatever, the electric heater will kick on for a few minutes.
