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Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:13:08 No.52031 View View Reply Original Report

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coming in to 7 acres.

2 acres of lawn
3 acres of farmland (soy beans, i believe)
2 acres of semi-dense woods (tracks everwhere)

wat do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:16:50 No.52046 Report

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Set up my own micro-nation and just enjoy myself everyday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:18:24 No.52052 Report

Quoted By: >>52065 >>52112

>>52031
>soy beans

Youll turn into a faggot in no time if you live off that stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:22:05 No.52062 Report

Quoted By: >>52070

Sacrifice soy beans to Thor in a huge fire
Plant potatoes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:22:19 No.52065 Report

Quoted By: >>52093

>>52052

i was actually planning on converting all of the farmland, except a half acre, into a wildflower meadow

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:23:20 No.52070 Report

Quoted By: >>52091 >>52093 >>52094

>>52062

i think im going to keep a half acre of farmland for a garden and convert the rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:28:10 No.52090 Report

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>>52031
I read this... and realized I've been living on 10 acres that I've done nothing with. Feelin' dumb right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:28:32 No.52091 Report

Quoted By: >>52114

>>52070

Op, read/get into this thread
I made suggestions on websites, plants, as well as housing options and management practices
>>50360

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Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:28:56 No.52093 Report

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>>52070
>>52065

i would keep an acre of farmland and an acre of lawn for grazing, that should make you pretty self sufficient while still being manageable.

You should think about a decent sized fish pond aswell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:29:22 No.52094 Report

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>>52070
Don't forget the herb garden close to the house.
You'll have an awesome smell in the house all summer long whenever you open a window.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:32:26 No.52112 Report

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>>52052
>implying soybeans have been clearly linked to increased estrogen

muh MSG!

Anywho, back to OP's topic. I'm looking to buy land myself. I'd like to build a cabin eventually. Maybe I'll grow some low maintenance stuff there, including some fruit. As the saying goes: The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:32:40 No.52114 Report

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>>52091

i read through it. Started this thread because my situation was unique to that one because 7 acres vs 1. good info though!

H Jon Benjamin !!FzWLHdw/Wg9

H Jon Benjamin !!FzWLHdw/Wg9 Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:35:04 No.52123 Report

Quoted By: >>52129

setup bike trails.

host a music festival

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:37:09 No.52129 Report

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>>52123
First priority: Gun range.
I know that's what I would build first if I had some land

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Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:37:46 No.52132 Report

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OP here,

should also mention that my 7 acres is parceled from a larger 40 acre plot, thus neighbors are far away and irrelevant.

Onions in the front. Tubers in the back.

Onions in the front. Tubers in the back. Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:39:26 No.52138 Report

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>>52132
Get some chickens.
They're delicious.
Also you can move their range around your acres and their poop will fertilize your next years crop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:41:36 No.52152 Report

Quoted By: >>52159

lucky bastard. where is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:41:45 No.52153 Report

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>>52132
I am so fucking jelly right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:42:26 No.52155 Report

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>>52031
So is this the Pacific Northwest?

You should grow hops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:43:00 No.52156 Report

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>>52129

OP here,

this is also my priority. Will be one of the first things i plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:43:25 No.52158 Report

Quoted By: >>52168

First thing fence it!

Second thing nothing.
Take time to watch the first season cycle there. Study how the land drains, and where dries out.
Being patient and smart about it will save your own time, money and effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:43:36 No.52159 Report

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>>52155
>>52152

michigan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:44:32 No.52162 Report

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>>52155
not OP

I live in the Pacific NW, and actually have hops that started growing along one of my fences. I have plenty of land to use but have no idea how I'd move them to make actual use of them

do you have any ideas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:45:15 No.52166 Report

Quoted By: >>52171

>>52162
grow weed also

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:45:44 No.52168 Report

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>>52158

Thats going to be a lot of fence, but I would like to fence it.

I'd really like to get started this spring/summer on converting the majority of the farmland to a meadow, but if the best course of action to do this is to wait, i will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:47:06 No.52169 Report

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slash and burn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:47:26 No.52171 Report

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>>52166
Don't smoke, even though I live in WA, don't plan on starting either. Also not currently legal to sell

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:47:58 No.52174 Report

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>>52171
but is it legal to grow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:49:34 No.52179 Report

Quoted By: >>52182 >>52186 >>52195

>>52174
Not sure on growing legalities. I would have to check. They've been trying to work on what is legal and what isn't ever since they legalized smoking it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:51:13 No.52182 Report

Quoted By: >>52195

>>52179
i think you just need a license. if that is the case get it and grow 2 or 3 plants imo. i dont smoke either

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:52:21 No.52186 Report

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>>52174
>>52179
I just looked it up. It isn't even legal to grow (at this point, but probably eventually will be with a license.)

"The Washington law does not authorize cultivation of any plants for personal use. Growing even one plant at home remains illegal. Passing even one joint to a friend remains a felony. While possessing one ounce of marijuana is allowed, possessing 1.5 ounces is a felony (possessing more than one ounce but less than 40 grams is a misdemeanor.)"

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Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:53:45 No.52195 Report

Quoted By: >>52207 >>52211

>>52186
>>52182
>>52179
>>52174
>>52171

>mfw my thread turned into a pot thread

well fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:58:29 No.52207 Report

Quoted By: >>52233

>>52195
Sorry OP.
I'll try and give you some advice since I hijacked your thread.

First thing I'd do is build a gun range. It's fairly easy and inexpensive and can give you hours on entertainment. Dirt makes the best backstop. I'd recommend at least 12 feet tall and at least 8ft thick at the bottom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 00:59:01 No.52211 Report

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>>52195
Well for something un pot related try a couple row of hugelkulture gardens op.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:05:07 No.52233 Report

Quoted By: >>52259

>>52207

No worries bro! and thank you for the tip..thats alot of dirt..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:13:29 No.52253 Report

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Grow acres of cannabis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:16:17 No.52259 Report

Quoted By: >>52273

>>52233
And I got the specs backwards lol. 8' tall 12 foot at the base. Technically, this is major overkill. It only takes 6" of dirt to stop any common caliber. However, it's hard to keep 6" of dirt stacked up!

I'd assume with a little work you could just get a dump truck full of dirt and set it up for a couple hundred dollars. Or, if you have a large hill on the property (away from neighbors) you could put significantly less dirt on and just shoot into that.

Also, if you aren't going to be shooting anything other than a .22 or a shotgun you wouldn't need anything much more than a hay bail

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:21:34 No.52273 Report

Quoted By: >>52340

>>52259

unfortunately the major downfall to the property is that its completely flat. Dumptruck full of dirt it is.

I'll probably mostly be shooting .22, shotgun, and handgun caliber's, but i have a gorgeous 7mm rem mag that i'd like to light off every now and then and sight in before deer season.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:25:06 No.52286 Report

Quoted By: >>52314

In this order:
1. Fence it off and mark off the forest area
2. Decide if you want the land or not. If not, sell.
3. Do you want to live there, off the land? Plant a more diverse crop

Then, do something unique to have on hell of a time with it.
>Make a giant shooting range for both action shooting/long range shooting
If you're into guns this would be fun. You could rent the range out, too.
>Make a giant paintball field for fun with bros
You could also rent this out if you wanted to.
>Build something on the land
If you really want to build something, or even a second house, you've got the chance
>Create a workshop
You have space for a workshop, and could manufacture anything you really wanted. You could make your own stuff and sell, like firearms or anything the local area might need
>Sell foodstuffs
Sell your crops, or hunt and sell the meat/make jerky. You could make it into an animal farm but selling foodstuffs is expensive and would require helping hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:33:35 No.52314 Report

Quoted By: >>52355 >>52641

>>52286

Op here,

Guess I should include some details.

Property has a house which i will be living in. Property also has a 25x30 pole barn which i will be using as a workshop (has electricity).

I will be making some sort of range, however since the land is so flat, I do not think it will be a large one.

I will be hunting the land. I'd really like to convert the farmland to a wild flower meadow or something similar for a pheasant habitat. would like to build a few hunting trails through it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:33:54 No.52315 Report

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well even if you can't fence it off. lay logs or post off the trails entering your land.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:40:29 No.52340 Report

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>>52273
I'd build a log lean-to shaped structure and put the dirt into that. It makes it look nicer and would make it more difficult for the dirt to blow away and lose shape. Also put a wall leading away from the backstop creating a shooting "lane". Then you could build a sheltered area to shoot from 100-150 yards away so it's more convenient to sight in a hunting rifle, and as another /out/standing gentlemen suggested you could rent it out for others to shoot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:42:28 No.52348 Report

Quoted By: >>52376 >>52382

Look into what farming subsidies you can get. I know someone that raises alpacas, pretty sure she gets more money from the government than from actually raising alpacas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:44:30 No.52355 Report

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>>52314
A good tip for creating a range:

PLOW the dirt to make your own mound. At one of the clubs around here they loosened the dirt and plowed it, so they had something flat to shoot on and it created a road to drive on, and piled it all up on one end about 12 feet high. Up to you how you want to loosen the dirt and you'll still need to rent a CAT, but could be cheaper than buying dirt (And you COULD do this technique by hand but it'd take forever)

Since it seems you're more into traditional/target shooting than action shooting, you should give action shooting a try! It's very different and it's more about self-defense than tight groupings and hunting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:50:02 No.52376 Report

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>>52348

i'd rather not be everything thats wrong with this country.

/overreactingtoyourpost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:50:53 No.52382 Report

Quoted By: >>52394

>>52348
There are MANY of these programs

>>52031
If you're into /x/ or even just camping, build a half assed log cabin in the woods on the fringe of the property for camping purposes. My friends and I always wanted to do this and set up a solar power station hooked up to a TV and speakers so we could watch horror movies in the late nights of camping

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:54:46 No.52394 Report

Quoted By: >>52403

>>52382
In my country, you can get subsidies for growing certain plants, then get compensation for deactivating farmland, repeat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:56:21 No.52399 Report

Quoted By: >>52427

OP here,

Ok honestly, I think everyone is overestimating how much land 7 acres is. The lot is 419 feet by 730 feet (419 on the road and 730 deep).

It is alot, but a 150 yard range would take up a good chunk of land.

another "cabin" in the woods is out. wooded area is not big enough. (its long along the frontage, but not deep)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 01:57:17 No.52403 Report

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>>52394
Here in MA, there's only two companies that sell milk. The local gov subsidized them when the price was getting real high, in order to bring the price down. After they got the checks, they BOTH increased the price of milk due to "an increase in costs" and prices have surged ever since, they still get the money from the gov too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:03:21 No.52427 Report

Quoted By: >>52462 >>52503

>>52399
Yes. 150 yards would be a lot of land. I live on 10.5 so I have a fairly good idea of the space we'd be talking about. If that's way too large, in your opinion, and not a good use of land, then just size it down.

Also, is there any water on the land? If not, you could dig out a small pond to attract game and add some scenery to the property. If you're lucky you might even get some migrating waterfowl-- ducks come by in the early fall and swim in my swimming pool while they head south

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:11:27 No.52462 Report

Quoted By: >>52503 >>52522

>>52427

I have been thinking about a waterfowl pond. I'd love that. It seems like a fuck ton of work, though, and a lot of machinery (backhoe and such) to get it done.

I do think the land has a high water table so that would be working for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:18:24 No.52485 Report

Quoted By: >>52500

>>52031

Read "Five Acres and Independence."

Old, but still good. Should give you some ideas.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0486209741?ie=UTF8&tag=survivalcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0486209741

(Sure you can find a PDF somewhere online.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:22:07 No.52500 Report

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>>52485

thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:22:29 No.52503 Report

Quoted By: >>52524

>>52427
>>52462
>>52462
You could use a small range, but it depends on whst you shoot. A 50 foot .22 shot is okay on a 20ft hill, or with a shotgun, but 50cal rifle would be a nono. Might shoot subsonic 22s unless people are really comfortable with it.

You can buy ducks/geese/peacocks from murray mcmurray. You can easily make a cage out od that wire, and ziptie or use those metal bendy clamps to make a small cage staked into the ground with a nest inside. The guy at your local hardware store would probably help yiun. The ducks can forage most of their food. One or two might get picked up by a hawk, but having a place to go at night helps. Murray mcmurray has some cool birds. Peacocks are cheap and fun as fuck. Turkeys are fun too.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:29:40 No.52522 Report

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>>52462
Yeah the cost of machinery has always been what has stopped me. I have an area on my land that is damp enough there is some water on the surface until mid summer, and is "marsh-y" enough that cat tails grow year after year. Hmmm maybe I'll budget for it this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:30:10 No.52524 Report

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>>52503

Again, there are no hills and I won't be shooting 50 cal rifles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:31:49 No.52531 Report

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>>52522

i wonder if pheasants forever or ducks unlimited ever help out with the cost of private ponds..i know pheasants forever are big into habitat

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Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:32:46 No.52532 Report

Quoted By: >>52540

>>52524
If you're going to be shooting small caliber rounds, as in .22 to handguns most commonly, just make it a 100 foot range. It's large enough you could still shoot rifles, but small enough that it isn't complete overkill, leaving you with enough land to grow crops etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:34:25 No.52540 Report

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>>52532

this is what i'm thinking and most likely to do. Possibly stretch it to 50 yards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 02:36:13 No.52544 Report

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>>52531
Wish I could tell you. I have Turkeys, Grouse, and Pheasants naturally on my property... we lost quail when the turkeys moves in though which was a bummer-- but I have plenty of "eating" birds which is nice.

I also have a couple herds of deer that live in the area, which we've been feeding corn and apples for years. Helps put my mind at ease they'll be easier to get when shtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 03:01:12 No.52641 Report

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>>52314
Planting trees that have nuts or are yummy to wildlife will attract animals. You could also have a bee hive. Op, I suggest you make a natural pool, which a duck or two could use as a pond.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/2002-08-01/Natural-Swimming-Pool.aspx
You can google/youtube to see some examples of what they look like. Also, you can buy a windmill pond aerator for like 1k to keep the algae out, I bet you can find one used, or you could buy an aerator for like 200 bucks with a glorified extension cord. Anyways, natural pools are cool.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 18:12:49 No.54157 Report

Quoted By: >>54684

>>52132
Those are some beautiful woods. You should hunt for mushrooms in them, and introduce them if there aren't any.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 18:40:36 No.54183 Report

Quoted By: >>54684

>>52031
That sounds like somebodies food plots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2013 22:28:15 No.54684 Report

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>>54157

I wish it were mine. Stock photos from google. Mines pretty attractive, however.

>>54183

Sounds like youre retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Mar 2013 05:56:02 No.55727 Report

Quoted By: >>56139 >>56144

>>52132
op, op you have no idea how Jelly i am right now
what do i have to do to live and work on your land
ill do anything
>anything

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Anonymous Wed 27 Mar 2013 15:33:33 No.56139 Report

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>>55727
would you kill a man?

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Anonymous Wed 27 Mar 2013 15:37:25 No.56144 Report

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>>55727
>year of our lord 1313+700
>offering to work on someone elses land as a peasant
>offering to do anything for the privilege

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Mar 2013 15:44:16 No.56154 Report

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>>52031

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