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Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 23:46:11 No.520864 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>520883 >>520888 >>520963 >>521204 >>521215 >>521255 >>525483 >>525490 >>525549 >>526430 >>527497 >>527511

Can we have a boots vs. shoes (trainers) discussion?

I've recently got into the whole debate with hiking boots vs hiking shoes/ trail running trainers and I can't decide.

What advantages/disadvantages does each have? Especially now it's getting towards summer...

Pic related: 'muh Bhutans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 23:52:05 No.520867 Report

Quoted By: >>520870 >>520888 >>522144

I think a lot has to do with your weight/age/fitness. I see 100 lb college girls hiking in sneakers and they're fine. I'm old and 200 lbs. I'd be sore for a week if I hiked in low cut shoes vs boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 23:54:00 No.520870 Report

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>>520867
I'm 20, 88kg, 6'1" and fairly fit but I've never gone /out/ in anything but boots, I think it's mainly because it's been ingrained in me since being young, plus the whole ankle protection thing...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 00:07:16 No.520883 Report

Quoted By: >>526421

>>520864
Trainers all the way.

Breathable
Quick drying
Light

Unless you're carrying a heavy load don't bother with boots.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 00:11:59 No.520887 Report

Quoted By: >>521490

Brooks ASR 11
>comfy
>light weight
>breathable
>quick drying

Other brands for trail running shoes
>Lasportiva
>Salomon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 00:12:27 No.520888 Report

Quoted By: >>520920 >>522320 >>522474 >>525676

>>520864
Depends on the enviroment. If you're on a trail, trail shoes are fine. What >>520867 is also a factor.

I find a lot of it also brings in the "Pants vs Shorts" debate. Shorts and shoes are fine on a trail, might even be more comfy. But the moment you start walking through brush, over deadfall and uneven terrain, through thistle and poison ivy, people learn real quick why pants and boots are worn. Where I hike and camp there aren't any trails, and right now it's covered in poison ivy and thistle. Lots of fallen trees as well. Boots offer a more solid support, and offer more protection. Just my perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 01:08:47 No.520920 Report

Quoted By:

>>520888
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 01:35:18 No.520934 Report

Quoted By: >>521789

I use a pair of racing trainers I got while traveling.

They're lightweight, quick to dry, and comfortable to wear indefinitely.

I'm in California, so anything I can do to wear as little weight or layers as possible is worth it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 01:50:42 No.520949 Report

Quoted By: >>521217

Long distances or hot weather - trainers
Short distances or cold weather - boots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 01:57:21 No.520963 Report

Quoted By: >>522130

>>520864
The only advantage boots have is that they are much more durable than the average shoe. If you are going somewhere very cold they also have the advantage of offering better insulation.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 11:12:44 No.521196 Report

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I wonder a lot about the same thing, and we had the same debate last year.

My conclusion is :
- My Salomon trail running shoes are good, dry quick, light, with a good sole, and comfy. But I feel uncomfortable using them in tall grass, mud, rocky trail or any wet situation.
- My Meindl Borneo 2 MFS are also comfy as fuck, with a good sole, very durable, they resist to watter for a day, they protect my ankle.
- So when I have to walk in wet condition, hard terrain, tall grass, wild place, I will prefer my boots. If the trail is easy, if I want to go fast, i'll consider using my trail running shoes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 12:24:12 No.521204 Report

Quoted By: >>521214 >>521422 >>521559

>>520864
I don't approve of Clunky leather shoes.
I hike at temps from Sub-freezing to nearly tropical = at sub-freezing the "modern"
style of "jogger" high-top boot is warmer - one-layer of leather?! - the caveman wouldn't do that!.
Waterproof? - try rain running-down your leg - the modern textile shoe will pump that water out ; what do yo think leather will do : think BOAT.
Leather shoes are like Down sleeping-bags : they were great in the 1960s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 13:10:02 No.521214 Report

Quoted By: >>521441

>>521204

shit nigger, waterproof your pants and wear them over your shoes. No water will enter. Even if so, get some gore tex and you are set.

What is wrong with downbags? Their weight to warmth ratio is godtier compared to synthetics.

Yes boots are heavy and clunky, but give more protection. I wear both, on trail shoes and off trail I highly prefer boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 13:32:40 No.521215 Report

Quoted By:

>>520864
I like light shoes with high grip.

I have no Car. well. they should look good on the trail as well in the city.

anonymous

anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 13:42:20 No.521217 Report

Quoted By: >>521276 >>526424

>>520949
holy hell leg hair

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 13:43:44 No.521218 Report

Quoted By: >>521227

although boots do offer better ankle protection, they reduce ankle mobility, leading to greater chance of stumbling/tripping from toeing-in. they're also going to be heavier. hiking shoes give you better ankle movement, so you're less likely to trip. however, if you do trip while carrying a heavy pack, you might seriously wreck your ankle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 14:01:37 No.521227 Report

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>>521218
Hybrids, bro.
http://www.rockyboots.com/rocky-mens-boots/rocky-c4t-trainer-military-duty-boot/FQ0001070.html?dwvar_FQ0001070_color=DU#start=1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 15:09:36 No.521241 Report

Quoted By: >>525982

I'm looking to get back into backpacking again, but I do casual hikes all the time, idk really what type of boot to get, I weigh 190 lbs, just turned 23. Mid range hiking boots? Recommendations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 15:59:16 No.521255 Report

Quoted By:

>>520864
Just depends what you need really.
There isnt a hiking boot made that has great traction on smooth rock for instance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 16:30:40 No.521276 Report

Quoted By: >>522121

>>521217
Testosterone m8, you should see my chest and back before I shave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 16:45:40 No.521282 Report

Quoted By: >>521460 >>527470

Merrel Moans.

Can't beat thrm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 17:20:17 No.521308 Report

Quoted By:

if you want to move fast and you aren't carrying much shoes are good. if you're carrying some stuff and on bad terrain you'd definitely want to wear boots. also if it's cold, boots are always better than shoes.

it just depends on what you want to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 21:03:23 No.521422 Report

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>>521204
That layer of leather keeps water and wind out as well as insulation. If you have water running down your leg wear some goddamn rain pants or a pair of gaiters. I can step through ankle deep icy water (something I find myself needing to do) in my Asolo 535s and my feet stay dry and warm... enjoy doing that in your trainers.
>muh caveman
fuck off, nobody cares what cavemen did.

If you think anyone who can afford down uses synthetic bags for any serious winter activity then you're retarded. Warmth to weight ratio for down is fantastic which makes a huge difference when you need to carry extra cold weather gear. And if you're incapable of keeping your down bag dry then you're full retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 21:28:13 No.521441 Report

Quoted By: >>522347

>>521214
If a down bag gets wet it's done for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 22:09:30 No.521460 Report

Quoted By: >>527470

>>521282
I'm team MOAB Mid.
Any place I hike or camp at on a regular basis (North Georgia) has both moving water and elevation change. The vibrams on these things grab on to all terrain, wet, dry, rocks, dirt, and every step I take feels firmly planted. Lightweight, waterproof AND breathable.. I swear I'm not shilling but fuck every time one of my friends is slipping around in whatever "trail shoes" they have I thank my stars for the merrells on my feet.

Full disclosure: they were a gift. I never would've have put them on otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 22:55:35 No.521490 Report

Quoted By:

>>520887
Spiderman shoes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 01:00:36 No.521559 Report

Quoted By:

>>521204
I don't approve of shoddily made trainers that can't handle any abuse at all and offer no protection

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 04:44:09 No.521673 Report

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Boots are good when it will be cold but not wet, when you have to walk through uneven and sharp terrain (vertical climbing).

They are bad in flat desert regions, hot and/or wet conditions.

Any shoe you wear hiking is terrible if it's not broken in, and boots take longer to break in. That is a strong point to consider.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 08:30:37 No.521789 Report

Quoted By:

>>520934
listen up kids, this guy knows what he is talking about'

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 09:47:49 No.521811 Report

Quoted By: >>521909 >>522141

I need my ankle protection in the places I go. 8"-10" leather boots with gore-tex liner are all I will wear hunting or hiking. I'm not an ultra-light enthusiast in the least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 15:56:36 No.521909 Report

Quoted By: >>521931 >>522202

>>521811
>I need my ankle protection in the places I go
why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 16:45:58 No.521931 Report

Quoted By:

>>521909
because he (or she) says they do.

I generally do too, for the same reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 21:19:19 No.522121 Report

Quoted By: >>522208

>>521276

>shaving body

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 21:32:16 No.522130 Report

Quoted By:

>>520963
go look around at boots, most boots these days use eva-midsoles and aren't resoleable, making them nothing more than glorified sneakers. i looked around for actual real boots and it's impossible to find anything half decent under $500.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 21:43:40 No.522136 Report

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Hiking shoes are worthless worst-of-all trades garbage.
Serious minimalist trailrunners are the superior footwear for hiking by a long shot.
* Quick-draining, quick-drying, no sweat condensation
* Good pairs have better traction than boots
* Good pairs have rock plates and toecaps. Get a cheap pair of gaiters and they offer the same protection as a boot.
* 1lb on your foot = 5lb in your pack
* More flexible soles, better on incline
* Lower cost of entry, superior to boots for the majority of the year
* Gore-tex socks are more waterproof than "waterproof" boots, which are a joke.
* Mid/high shoes and boots actually cause more ankle injuries than they prevent.

Boots are important if you hike in the winter. They're more comfortable with spikes, less likely for spikes to slip off, insulated, and fare better in snow.

There's room in the inventory for both, but you should always get trailrunners first. You can get last year's top of the line runners for $50 a pair. A decent pair of boots is $250, anything less is trash. Protip: buy trailrunners, wait for the christmas return REI garage sale, get your boots then. I got a pair of unworn Soloman Quest 4D's for $40 that way.

Pic related, the best trailrunner. Brooks cascadia also acceptable if Peregrines are too wide for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 21:47:31 No.522141 Report

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>>521811
ever try gaiters? they do a better job of protecting from brush rocks etc than wearing high-cut boots.
if we're talking about ankle-rolling and stuff well yeah you have a point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 21:54:17 No.522144 Report

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>>520867

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 23:04:14 No.522202 Report

Quoted By: >>522499

>>521909
I cross a lot of boulder fields in my /out/ings. Can't boulder hop with a fucked ankle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 23:11:46 No.522208 Report

Quoted By:

>>522121
and?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 May 2015 23:19:47 No.522212 Report

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I bought a boots once but I never got to used them because its said there were outsides only boots and I never found an outsides because if the Earth is a circle it's all one big side and I never got into space? So I could never use them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 May 2015 02:28:03 No.522320 Report

Quoted By:

>>520888
Honestly the most simple solution to this argument is to always wear pants. If I get hot I just roll up the legs. Bring safety pins to keep em up and you're good to go

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 May 2015 03:25:43 No.522347 Report

Quoted By:

>>521441
Dridown. Where are you sleeping that your bag is exposed to continuous moisture?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 May 2015 09:45:33 No.522474 Report

Quoted By:

>>520888
werd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 May 2015 12:02:30 No.522499 Report

Quoted By: >>525985

>>522202
The best way to prevent ankle injury is the stretch and strengthen your ankle, not cover them with a shoe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 May 2015 12:46:45 No.522507 Report

Quoted By:

Everyone's the fuckin expert eh.

People use what suits them and their needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 May 2015 13:02:17 No.522509 Report

Quoted By: >>522515

I've always used boots, but I like 'em fairly light. I like a gore-tex lined boot because it's nice to have dry feet at the end of a long day. There are cons to boots, but imo the pros outweigh. That said, for a short hike in warm, dry weather I tend to take runners. Unless it's gonna be off-trail and rocky, then it's boots all the way. The only people who diss down sleeping bags are people who don't own 'em. Gore-tex socks are uncomfortable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 May 2015 13:22:36 No.522515 Report

Quoted By: >>525502

>>522509
no you are wrong you should never wear boots, and never wear goretex, and even less ever wear runners, and you should never be anywhere rocky, and down sleeping bags aren't any good either, and goretex socks, contrary to my previous comments on goretex, are god tier.

I know this because with regard to such matters i'm cleverer than anyone else in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 01:55:42 No.525190 Report

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Vibram Five Fingers.
Nylon running shorts.
T-Shirt.
Small pack.
Nylon poncho.

That's it.
Anything else, well, you're not really dedicated.
Weekenders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 11:55:26 No.525410 Report

Quoted By:

>hike part of trail in sneakers
>feet hurt, toes stubbed on rocks
>admittedly lighter
>day two, same type of trail, switch to boots and wool socks
>rainy, companions in sneakers
>their feet got wet (wet feet lead to blisters), my toes were dry
>no more stubbed toes from rocks
>slightly more tiring to wear

If you faggots care so much about weight, just drop 5 lbs of bodyfat to compensate.

>inb4 implying any fat to spare

This is with some 4-year-old, $25, mall-bought hiking boots, too. Better equipment would probably be lighter and even better.

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Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 15:42:51 No.525483 Report

Quoted By: >>526441

>>520864
merrel moabs.

best fucking things i have ever put on my feet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 15:54:56 No.525490 Report

Quoted By:

>>520864
You're going to step in a puddle a half foot deep eventually. And you will be glad you chose boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 16:10:47 No.525502 Report

Quoted By: >>525509 >>525545

>>522515
Does your carer know you're on the computer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 16:24:13 No.525509 Report

Quoted By:

>>525502
Being an expert in care myself i'll have you know that unsupervised communications time is a critical aspect of all care ever so you're pretty much wrong on that too. I know this because I'm considerably smarter than you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 18:14:46 No.525545 Report

Quoted By:

>>525502
Was that close enough to hear while it went over your head?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 18:22:04 No.525549 Report

Quoted By:

>>520864
Lighter footwear do help you go faster while experiencing less leg fatigue. Many AT thru hikers prefer them for this reason.

An incidental advantage of using trail runners is that your foot is more ventilated due to the designs of most of them (mesh uppers). Therefore, your feet are cooler, dry faster, and get less blisters. I say that this is an incidental advantage, though, because you can get boots with mesh uppers, and as long as they fit your foot, they won't give you blisters.

I will say in defense of boots that many, if not all, trail runners I have tried and handled did not have a very sturdy sole. This doesn't matter so much on a soft trail where you're mainly walking over dirt, but on a lot of rocky trails out west, in Arizona, Colorado, Utah, etc., the bottoms of your feet will not enjoy the experience of hiking in trail runners for extended mileage due to the sheer unevenness of the trail surface. Also, while I don't really care about boots being able to save my ankles from twists (I use hiking poles), the fact that boots are higher DOES keep gravel, plant matter and other debris out of them compared to shoes, which is a plus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 21:11:11 No.525656 Report

Quoted By: >>525675 >>525951

Why are boots like the ones in op's pic so scarce? Why do they all look like space trainer 2000 with all kinds of ziplines and metal plates that say gore-tex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 21:59:48 No.525675 Report

Quoted By: >>525951

>>525656
I hate how the fancier you go in outdoor equipment, the more you see bright reds, oranges, lime greens. It's fucking annoying, I just want tans, blacks, browns and subdued greens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 22:01:57 No.525676 Report

Quoted By:

>>520888
Very incidentally related but would it be better to go for slightly longer or shorter pants when hiking?
My length is 31in but I usually get 32s in regular pants due to being in between. Should I go for a 30 which has no break w/o shoes or 32?
I noticed with my hiking boots on the 30 kind of leaves a small part of the back of my leg exposed when I raise my foot high.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2015 22:45:47 No.525692 Report

Quoted By:

I am hoping to buy some mid boots so that I'm not afraid of stepping into shallow water when I get into and out of canoes.

Also, the mosquitoes went through my wool socks and did a number on my as ankles on my last trip.

How do I not get ripped of while buying footware in Canada? Outlet malls? What brands should I look at?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2015 08:05:29 No.525951 Report

Quoted By:

>>525675
>>525656
Maybe it's a country thing but in the UK there's a pretty decent choice of boots like that. I have those exact ones as it happens...

But I do know what you mean. There are a fair few boots I'd very strongly consider and look perfect for my particular need, if only they were a little more subtle. Perhaps the idea that flashy=expensive=good is a factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2015 10:34:25 No.525982 Report

Quoted By:

>>521241
I have a pair of Merrell Moab waterproof mids.

Excellent comfort, very light weight, feels more like a sneaker than a boot.

I wear Timberland boots for work, and have had many other brands over the years. I wear boots every day. The Merrell Moabs feel so much nicer than all my other work boots I've owned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2015 11:20:53 No.525985 Report

Quoted By: >>526384

>>522499
>safety equipment is not beneficial

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2015 21:16:10 No.526384 Report

Quoted By:

>>525985
It really isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2015 23:06:08 No.526421 Report

Quoted By:

>>520883

>Unless you're on a trail that isn't paved don't bother with boots.

ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2015 23:08:07 No.526424 Report

Quoted By:

>>521217

Not him, but there's literally nothing wrong with body hair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2015 23:20:08 No.526430 Report

Quoted By:

>>520864
I have hiked in sandals, minimal shoes, trail runners, coss-trainers, light hiking boots, full leather backpacking boots, and double mountaineering boots.

From top to bottom:
Sandals
Minimal Shoes
Trail Runners / Cross-trainers / Running Shoes (trail runners just have trail-oriented soles)
Light hiking boots
Full leather boots
Double Mountaineering boots

From top to bottom:
More -> Less breathable
Less -> More water protection
Less -> More terrain protection
Less -> More cold protection
Faster -> Slower drying when wet
Lighter -> Heavier

What you wear depends on your circumstances.

Is it cold? It is wet? Is there snow? It is hot and dry? Do you cry when your feet get damp? Do you cry when your feet are soaking? Do you cry when you stub your toe?

Personally my most-used are minimal shoes + mountaineering boots, primarily due to fit issues. I loved the protection that full leather offers for trails in mixed weather, but never found a pair where the fit could come even close to minimal shoes - so I usually take colder/wetter feet in exchange, up until the point where shit gets genuinely cold and I can switch to mountaineering boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2015 23:51:01 No.526441 Report

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>>525483
Better than wolverines, their soles disintegrate if not kept moist enough.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 22:41:20 No.527470 Report

Quoted By:

>>521282
>>521460
These

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 23:31:44 No.527497 Report

Quoted By:

>>520864
Pic related are my new boots which replaced my old merrells. They are comfy as fuck. Gonna take them out this weekend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 23:50:46 No.527511 Report

Quoted By: >>527533 >>527536 >>527708

>>520864

boots are retarded old timer / tacticool tradition, which has absolutely no benefits

they are actually more dangerous than regular shoes
you have less control of your foot and they are just retarded clunky messes

not in 20 years of serious hiking have i almost even came close to twisting my ankle or having my feet all wet or some dumbass shit. and iv'e always hiked in regular skater shoes, which are lightweight as fuck, padded for maximum comfort and insulation, and allow my foot 10x more freedom to climb over rocks and shit, which fucking suck ass to do inside of a boot

not one accident, ever
people can be full of some much shit sometimes, boots are definitely useless manchild pleb gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2015 00:33:23 No.527533 Report

Quoted By: >>527541

>>527511
have fun with cold toes and wet ankles when winter comes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2015 00:45:09 No.527536 Report

Quoted By:

>>527511
Thanks for letting us know hiking in your backyard is really easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2015 00:57:14 No.527541 Report

Quoted By: >>527545

>>527533
Crazy anti-boot man does seem crazy, because obviously winter excursions require heavier footwear. But are trail shoes actually that nice for summer? The only downside I'm seeing from this thread is that you can feel rocks and stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2015 01:11:53 No.527545 Report

Quoted By: >>527705

>>527541
Trail shoes are ok when you are in moderate to gentle terrain, they are the best when you are just on a trail hike or backpacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2015 06:39:34 No.527705 Report

Quoted By: >>527914

>>527545
exactly. trail shoes are for weekend warriors, not actual hikers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2015 06:42:23 No.527708 Report

Quoted By:

>>527511
>boots are retarded old timer / tacticool tradition, which has absolutely no benefits

omg THANK YOU i've been saying the same thing about jackets for ages. I mean, just because people used to wear them doesn't mean they're applicable now, how many times have you jacket wearing morons been passed by a guy with just a t-shirt on? Exactly. I never take one when I hike and I'm still alive. I have a sweater on if it's chilly and that does the job perfectly well without shelling out shit loads of dollars, and lets me run about like a fucking mountain goat.

Fuck sake, get with it retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2015 08:10:36 No.527727 Report

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I am going to chime in here. I am biased, obviously, and you will hear why.

I was a national class trail runner. Placed at U.S. 50k trail championships. I have done serious Fell races as well.

And im sorry, But I dont find hiking boots to be any more help than Trail shoes. On one hand, my ankles are so so strong and flexible from years of trailrunning that I do NOT need the support, and a good trail racer will have just as much grip as any hiking boot (yes, they really do, trust me) AND I prefer the way they deal with water.

And yes, I have done hiking and backpacking in both, in rather difficult terrain.

Again, I am biased, clearly, since running through the rough terrain is my main goal usually, not backpacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2015 17:20:27 No.527914 Report

Quoted By:

>>527705
There's nothing wrong with trail shoes if you are using it in the right environment, a pair of lowa boots will be excessive on a gravel trail and a pair of trail runners are inadequate for hunting in the bush. It's all about packing the right tools for the job.

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