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Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 20:39:19 No.625117 View View Reply Original Report

Want some improvements, show me what you've got so far, emphasis on cheap and easy. Also best well rounded nutrition with minimum weight foodstuffs.

Shitty loaf pan pot
Assorted spices
Bags of tea/sugar teabags in with tea
Little jar of salt
Spoon
Tinfoil
Cup
Empty peanut butter jar for little stuff to go into. It fits in the loafpan well
Flask
Popbottle full of rice n lentils

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 21:58:33 No.625149 Report

Quoted By: >>625256 >>625267

Talk to me about the rice and lentils anon.
What is the highest elevation you have cooked that concoction?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2015 01:19:34 No.625256 Report

Quoted By: >>625267

>>625149
Have not cooked it before, but next ime im out with my buddies n not to trashed i probably will n see how it works. Would altitide have a large impact on how it would cook?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2015 01:58:59 No.625267 Report

Quoted By: >>625270

>>625256
Not >>625149, but water boils at lower temperatures the higher you get so typically it will take longer to cook. Seeing at you are cooking lentils from raw it could be a few hours at high enough altitudes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2015 02:03:38 No.625270 Report

Quoted By: >>625276

>>625267
The lentils i have cook faster than rice, im expecting that when i do cook this the lentils will be mostly a mush. Id expect the rice to be what yells me its done, but i have no experience with high altitude cooking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2015 02:10:34 No.625276 Report

Quoted By: >>625349

>>625270
Interesting, last time I made an Italian sausage soup my lentils took close to an hour to get to where I liked them. Maybe I shouldn't make lentils ever again.

The shit part is I have tons of recipes for camp food that has beans in it (duh, it is a great source of protein and it stores for years). But the camp buddy has a nickel allergy and can't eat any beans. Like any. So there goes that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2015 04:00:03 No.625349 Report

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>>625276
Ya im wondering if mine were parboiled or something. Theyre fuckin awesome curried thats for sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2015 04:48:29 No.625369 Report

Quoted By: >>625980

Kik is Cameronbales and pushman40
Both gay
Looking for fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 03:19:50 No.625980 Report

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>>625369
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 03:27:55 No.625984 Report

Quoted By: >>626352

Good thread. Finally.

On short trips I bring an actual ice cold lunch cooler with sausage or chicken or whatever the fuck I wanna eat. Then I bring a bag of rice/beans. I cook most stuff in a half high cast iron pan over my fire.

It's a lot of weight but I fucking love food and I am strong enough to just carry it.

On long trips I eat tons of peanut butter and stupid protein bars and shit. It is the only thing I hate about serious hikes.

>select all images with doughnuts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 03:33:22 No.625988 Report

Quoted By: >>625993 >>626058 >>626139

>>625117
Pemmican. No cookware or utensils, just 6.6 cal/gram pemmican.

That last time I was out, I used a Stanley kit, an alcohol stove and a titanium spork. The titanium scratched the steel pot, the pot was too tall and narrow to utilize much heat, and the alcohol stove got bent to shit. Next time, I'll probably go with a hard plastic spoon, wider pot and sterno can. But that's for camping, I'm still thinking cold pemmican for the PCT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 03:43:57 No.625993 Report

Quoted By: >>625996

>>625988
You are a stupid, pretentious faggot. Just know that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 03:47:51 No.625996 Report

Quoted By: >>626260

>>625993
I know. But I'm not wrong, either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 05:35:32 No.626058 Report

Quoted By: >>626069

>>625988
I'm a fan of wooden/bamboo spoons. inevitably, the metal on metal contact will create some wear debri that ends up in the food. with a plant fiber utensil, I just eat a little wood at worst. plus, they tend to be more sturdy than the plastic for similar weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 05:52:32 No.626069 Report

Quoted By: >>626368

>>626058
Probably lighter and less toxic than plastic, too. My concern would be that bamboo is pretty porous, and I don't carry the equipment to properly sterilize utensils, usually it's just "rub some sand into it, rinse it out." I don't even use soap, except after cooking something greasy. It keeps my immune system alert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 06:18:34 No.626082 Report

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Quinoa has complete protein. I think a cup of quinoa and a cup of buckwheat with a fat stirred in would probably just about meet your macros for the day. Assuming no exercise.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 08:20:21 No.626139 Report

Quoted By: >>626258 >>626353 >>626360 >>626374

>>625988
Yeah, those Stanley pots require a stove with a narrow flame ring or you lose too much heat. I've been using mine with a cheap Etekcity canister stove. Works pretty good...

Here's my 10 year old son's review of the Etekcity stove with the Stanley pot:

http://youtu.be/T8OptenP9hw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 16:19:04 No.626258 Report

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>>626139
Nobody wants to watch that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 16:25:17 No.626260 Report

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>>625996
I second this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 20:50:25 No.626352 Report

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>>625984
>someone thinks my first thread is good

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 20:54:44 No.626353 Report

Quoted By: >>626374

>>626139
I got a bloody $30 coleman stove and I have the heat loss problem a little bit, but it's not too bad. I find that if I keep the flame low it actually boils water faster (because the flame stays under the pot). Still will boil a pot of water in just a couple minutes so no complaints.

Ha, nice little video. Always good to get the kids involved. He seems to know his way around the gear pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:06:36 No.626360 Report

Quoted By: >>626361

>>626139
Jesus man , do that kid a favor and beat the southern accent out of him before he gets to prep school.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:07:32 No.626361 Report

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>>626360
alright that's enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:29:32 No.626368 Report

Quoted By: >>626374 >>626381

>>626069
not the anon you were replying to, but I agree re: the wooden utensils
dry woodfiber is actually more sterile than most other surfaces because the fibers draw moisture (like from bacterial cell bodies) away from the surface. this is why wooden cutting boards (for example) are better than plastic.

I whittled a long handled scoop-like spoon for myself; love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:40:44 No.626374 Report

Quoted By: >>626375

>>626139
>>626353
4Chan doesn't like the pictures on my phone, but I modded mine. If you cut a groove in the middle of the clasp, you can get the handle to sit half-way, and use it as a hanging pot over a fire. You don't have to worry about heat loss as much when the fuel is free.

>>626368
You're telling me that the pores make it more sterile? I'd like to believe you, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Seems like it would just suck any bacteria into a warm, damp sheltered environment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:44:06 No.626375 Report

Quoted By: >>626376 >>626382

>>626374
>If you cut a groove in the middle of the clasp, you can get the handle to sit half-way, and use it as a hanging pot over a fire.
that sounds pretty neato actually. Wish i could see a pic, cuz I'm not totally clear on what you mean.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:48:36 No.626376 Report

Quoted By: >>626378

>>626375
See if this works...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:49:52 No.626378 Report

Quoted By: >>626390

>>626376
Huh, I was wrong. It does work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:52:09 No.626381 Report

Quoted By: >>626635

>>626368
>this is why wooden cutting boards (for example) are better than plastic.

This turned out not to be true. I used to tell people this all the time since I had a side business making high end , end grain cutting boards.
Boy did I have to eat some crow when further testing showed it to be nonsense.
I no longer sell them even though I prefer them myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:53:28 No.626382 Report

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>>626375
I also replaced the plastic clip on the lid with a key ring, removed the cheap locking mechanism from the handle, and covered it in pine and cedar soot, you know, so it looks cool.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 21:58:53 No.626388 Report

Quoted By: >>626397

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 22:01:55 No.626390 Report

Quoted By: >>626401

>>626378
oooooh i see. cool beans! thanks I might try this. how would you recommend i cut the grooves? wire snips? file?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 22:05:24 No.626397 Report

Quoted By: >>626400

>>626388
The one thing I really do like about the Stanley pots, is that they fit nicely under the front of my bicycle seat. I do get weird looks from people in motorhomes though, when my bike is covered in gear and I'm hauling ass down the highway.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 22:07:39 No.626400 Report

Quoted By: >>626407 >>626408

>>626397
ha, the very worst kind of cager is the glamping variety

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 22:07:40 No.626401 Report

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>>626390
I did it with a dremel. It would be difficult to get a file in that small space, I think.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 22:12:54 No.626407 Report

Quoted By: >>626412

>>626400
Glamping is a blast if you do it right.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 22:15:49 No.626408 Report

Quoted By: >>626409 >>626499 >>626577

>>626400
The last time I was out at the lake, I rode eighty miles to get there, with 25 lbs total gear and food for a two week stay, fishing with pic related. My last night there, a couple with a giant ass, motorbike and fishing boat go out on the lake with a fish radar and Champaign. I just don't see the point, why not just pick up a smoked salmon and cook it in the backyard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 22:17:29 No.626409 Report

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>>626408
*giant-ass motorhome.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 22:18:22 No.626412 Report

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>>626407
Yeah I know

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 23:10:36 No.626451 Report

Quoted By: >>626454

only cooking utensil I need.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 23:13:46 No.626454 Report

Quoted By: >>626460

>>626451
only ingredient I need.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 23:20:06 No.626459 Report

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>>625117
The last couple of times I've gone out, I've mostly just eaten trout cooked over an open flame. You gut it, leave the lower jaw, jam a cleaned stick though it's mouth into the tail, and roast it until the fat starts to drip, then a few more minutes upside down (that's why you leave the jaw), and when you can peel the skin off cleanly, it's done. When you're done, you burn your dishes and make more, there's nothing to carry.

Squirrels, rabbits and nutria can be done basically the same way, not sure how I'd make cat-tail soup, though, unless I still brought a pot...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 23:21:36 No.626460 Report

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>>626454
Lol. That's awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 00:32:13 No.626499 Report

Quoted By: >>626638

>>626408
Couple of points:
- Smoked salmon isn't something that requires further cooking. Even cold smoked, it is eaten as supplied.

- 'Fish radar', as you describe it, greatly increases ones productivity when on the water, when properly employed.

Just because you enjoy doing something a certain way doesn't mean that is the sole and only way to enjoy it. If these people were not specifically bothering you what concern is it of yours what they are doing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 03:06:18 No.626577 Report

Quoted By: >>626640

>>626408
that looks like a really shitty hand reel. way too thin and therefore slow. any 0,5 l bottle would work better. or a tin can with a handle inside. unless you also use that shit as a dildo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 05:39:51 No.626635 Report

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>>626381
damn, really? i didn't know it got disproven.
what about a vaguely insecticidal wood like cedar or redwood? surely occasional use on my part wouldn't poison me, but might be enough to be antibacterial. i tend to treat my pieces with vitamin E and beeswax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 05:54:54 No.626638 Report

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>>626499
They were, actually. Those drunk idiots were up until two in the morning, when I needed to be up at the crack of dawn to be home on time. I go out in the woods to be out in the woods, not to listen to my neighbors television, dogs and drunken laughter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 05:56:59 No.626640 Report

Quoted By: >>626644

>>626577
It does kind of suck for reeling. But it works, it's light, and it fits perfectly in the bottom of my frame bag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 06:01:09 No.626644 Report

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>>626640
>it fits perfectly in the bottom

seriously man, just make one as described. you will throw further and reel faster. both bottles and tins are hollow, so you can put stuff inside them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 06:03:56 No.626648 Report

Quoted By: >>626766

If you have wooden utensils and you want to keep them clean and durable you can shellac them. Shellac is made from boiled bug excretions and is naturally food safe. It's commonly used for sealing wooden bowls and serving platters.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 06:44:22 No.626662 Report

Quoted By: >>626738

One thing you guys should look into is soaking oats. Apparently back in the day it was widely understood that some grains should be soaked in water with additives to break down antinutrients. By additives I mean you can stick a bit of apple cider vinegar and rye groats in there, or something like that.
You remove this water with additives prior to cooking and it will give you a faster cooking and more nutritious food.
Even if you do not eat oats this method may be useful and desirable for cooking other things like lentils or rice.
I'm not sure what other grains are meant to benefit from this process.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 13:09:25 No.626738 Report

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>>626662
That whole anti nutrients BS is laughable but pre soaking does reduce the boiling time and thus the amount of fuel needed. The best way to do this is to add the correct amount of water and bring it to an initial boil then cover and shut off the heat. Wrapping the pot with a towel at this stage to hold in the heat is a good idea. Once your grains have hydrated and cooled somewhat, you should put it back on the stove for it's final cook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Nov 2015 15:18:40 No.626766 Report

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>>626648
You do not want to shellac high wear stuff like spoons. Dont use anything that builds a film.
Best thing is wax/oil combos.

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