Anyone have any experiences camping in NJ during the off season?
My buddies and I want to hike the BATONA for a little bit during the beginning of January.
Now, it seems like this dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xEZ4oSMfQ is able to just kinda camp where ever he needs to, but we just went back there for a walk last night and ran into a ranger who wouldn't believe we weren't up to shenanigans.
Are we gonna be able to camp for free if we move each night?
It's not just a money thing, it's not all that expensive, but I don't want to really be beholden to a schedule like I'd be if I paid and reserved each site. (And it's not gonna be possible to visit the Ranger Station each day if we wanna go the whole trail.)
We'd only need the site for one night, for three of us, maybe two tents and a fire.
Think we can get away with it? Or should I bend over and let myself be beholden to a schedule?
Anonymous
Are you seriously asking if you will be arrested for camping at a campsite?
the fresh prince of bellmawr
Hi! I've never hiked the batona before, but I used to camp and 4wheel out there a bit. About 2 years ago most of the campsites went to reserveamerica, which is a horrible company and they charge a ton of money. Also, the campsites are really not located conveniently for a hike. I'd say pack light and plan to stealth it out, people do it and get away. There are plenty of rangers up there though, so just be aware of that. I wouldn't set up camp until dusk. I've camped there in December at the paid sites, and it can get cold, but not too bad. Have fun, and take pictures.
the fresh prince of bellmawr
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>>652498 Also, if you're willing to travel a little bit, Delaware Water Gap is top notch, but it gets much colder at night. You can camp on the AT there in the off season, it goes right through the national park or whatever.
Pic related, Delaware river 1 mile north of where the AT crosses over.
Anonymous
>>652509 Yeah, why do you think that's weird? You're supposed to pay and register, champ.
They've got rangers running around, and like I just said, on a random day, at night, in the rain, we got stopped just walking around.
I don't think it's crazy to think we might get stopped setting up tents and having a campfire.
>>652514 Aight, thanks.
Might be more inclined to try and stealcamp now.
Anonymous
>>652546 You said you are willing to pay. Did you change your mind?
Anonymous
>>652498 >paying to camp This country is pretty gay desu
Anonymous
>>652829 Like I said, it's more an issue of being beholden to a schedule.
You have to do this all in advance, so if we get to a campsite and decide we wanna sit around and hang out an extra night there, dunno, maybe we're tired, or someone feels sick, or we just feel like it, tough shit, we gotta go.
Same for if we get a pep in our step and arrive early, we'd have to slow down.
I feel like it'd ruin it.
Anonymous
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>>652890 Sounds like you will get arrested if you act as shifty irl as you are here. You deserve to be locked up.
Anonymous
>>652498 Please bring some brown spray paint and paint over the A.
Please, OP.
Please?
Anonymous
>>653220 You've stumped me. Which A?
Why?
Anonymous
>>653261 The one at the end of Batona of course.
Anonymous
>>653264 That doesn't make any sense.
Anonymous
>>653268 Neither do any of your posts you crackhead
Anonymous
NJ resident here, no there is no dispersed camping in New Jersey. It cost $3 a night, just book for the whole weekend or whatever if your not sure.
>>652860 It's NJ bro there is no "wilderness". The most remote sites still manage to get fucked up by boy scouts, glampers, and partying teens. A few bucks so the environment isn't totally fucked up isn't so much to ask for.
i still can't force myself to like bon jovi
i still can't force myself to like bon jovi Sat 26 Dec 2015 07:28:41 No. 653369 Report >>653349 I agree that the $3 is a fair price to pay, but afaik bodine field is the only site in wharton that isn't managed by reserveamerica.
Fucking hate reserveamerica, they contribute nothing to /out/doors life or conservation.
Anonymous
>>653369 There is no reason to hate them you freeloading child. They perform a valuable service for adults who want to reserve a campsite and not find you occupying it with your druggy friends and your meth lab when I arrive with my kids.
Sorry you can't afford the five dollar reservation fee split amongst your squad
Anonymous
>>653527 Pretty much this. Drop a few bucks on them and don't whine about it. I like being able to put up a tent somewhere that's controlled to the point that assholes don't get to mess it up but not to the point that I can't still cook on a campfire with my kids and hike trails to beautiful scenery. With this many people in the country, that's a good compromise.
>>653369 I don't like Bon Jovi, either. He and Bryan Adams are always instant thumbs down on my Pandora stations.
Anonymous
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>>653307 Perhaps if you're illiterate
Anonymous
>>653558 >>653527 No. Reserveamerica is literally just in business to make money as a middleman. Everyone I've ever talked to at the park services despise them, their "convenience fees" are sometimes 5x the price of the actual reservation fee, and the $15 cancellation policy is horseshit.
They literally make millions of dollars and give nothing of value back to the community. Fuck them. That's not to say that I haven't used them when it was the *only option* but that type of shit is part of why I moved to an area with national forests.
Anonymous
>>653593 They're the middleman for the government organization that takes care of the places you want to stay. They're into it for a profit, which means they're going to be both more efficient and cheaper than having the government do it instead. Trust me on this, I work for the government and everything we do is more expensive than it would be if done privately and for profit.
Anonymous
>>653593 >Reserveamerica is literally just in business to make money Is there a company that isn't in business to make money? Literally?
Anyhoo reserveamerica is here to stay. Deal with it
Anonymous
>>653605 :^)
MFW millions of acres of national forest and I never have to deal with them again.
Sorry bout that anon.
Anonymous
>>653598 except that doesn't hold any water because the state still hire's the same amount of seasonal park office workers who were the people who did the booking before that. I don't know the real reason they started using reserve America.
Anonymous
>>653654 It's cheaper or they wouldn't do it. States hate to outsource work.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>653662 >>653654 they got a contract from the federal government for something like 98mil, and then states started following suit
Anonymous
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>>653610 >if I lie about camping on the internet reserveamerica will disappear