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BackPack general

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 16:20:07 No.665637 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>673370 >>675616 >>677626 >>677632 >>682227 >>687187 >>697746

Every once in a while a thread on backpack advice comes by, figured it would be nice to bundle them like we do with knaife general. Post any advice requests/general discussion etc.

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OP Thu 14 Jan 2016 16:24:04 No.665638 Report

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I am looking for a new backpack, one that will be between my day to day bag and my 55l Nomad Cobra. Currently considering the Camelbak Phantom 20l, can get it for 80 eurodollars. Is it any good? Is the price any good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 17:27:26 No.665665 Report

Quoted By: >>665684 >>665689

How big should a weekend park be? What brands are recommended?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 17:52:33 No.665684 Report

Quoted By: >>665696

>>665665
Brands depend on price point.

If you only backpack infrequently, or are on a tight budget, I recommend Teton Sports, or High Sierra. I've used both brands and I'm pretty impressed.

As for size, depends on how big your gear is. I use a 65L pack for weekend trips, but only because its what I have. I use it for winter camping so I need a lot of space, in the summer I just leave it mostly empty and cinch down the compression straps. I also hate anything strapped to the outside of the pack.

For a normal, summer, weekend pack, 45L is not bad. You can get a Teton Sports 45L bag for like $65 on amazon. (Teton lists there packs in ci so a 45L pack is like 2800ci)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 17:57:20 No.665689 Report

Quoted By: >>669833

>>665665
http://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpack.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 17:57:54 No.665691 Report

Quoted By: >>665699 >>671598

How do I into compressed sleeping bags? How do I use them?

thnks :)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 18:00:59 No.665692 Report

Quoted By: >>665807 >>684824

Just got an Osprey Xenith 105.

Best pack I have ever owned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 18:03:51 No.665696 Report

Quoted By: >>669839

>>665684
Lets say I will pay 200+ dollars, but only for good shit, that will last many years and seasons to come. What would be good then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 18:10:34 No.665699 Report

Quoted By: >>665710

>>665691
Down or Synthetics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 18:28:28 No.665710 Report

Quoted By: >>665753 >>665757

>>665699
i have a down bag and a synthetic bag, would you mind going into both? are the methods different?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 18:58:46 No.665728 Report

Quoted By: >>665732 >>665754 >>665756 >>668936

I'm about to click buy on Osprey 65 AG. It'll be my first serious backpack, I've only done hikes so far but I want to get into overnight camping or longer.

Good use of $ or waste of my time and money?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:07:14 No.665732 Report

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>>665728
I have the 50L. Love it. Super comfy, never had any sort of problems with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:38:00 No.665753 Report

Quoted By: >>675679

>>665710
For the down, never ever store it in the compression sack, it will ruin your bag over time. Just use a compression bag when you hike and take the bag out some time before you go to sleep. This gives the loft time to recover and you'll sleep warmer.
At home, store the bag with a clothes hanger or in a storage net. It'll live a lot longer.

Synthetics doesn't compress that good, but it also does not degenerate, you can store it compressed if needed.
Same for the loft before you sleep as above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:39:27 No.665754 Report

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>>665728
>click buy
65 means serious weight, if it doesn't fit you right, you'll buy twice.
>goinnashopandtryfirst

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:42:49 No.665756 Report

Quoted By: >>665760 >>665769

>>665728

yeah, that looks cool, but do they only make one size?

it looks geared towards being a manlet

there is a teaton which only costs 60$, but comes with an adjustable length which is the only model of backpack im aware of that does this.
a perfect fitting pack is worth more than its weight in gold, and that 60$ pack literally BTFO's manlet gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:43:03 No.665757 Report

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>>665710
Compressing a down bag:
Unroll your bag and stick the foot end in to the stuff sack first (this allows trapped air to escape as you are stuffing). Start pressing the bag in, working around the sack in a circle. Keep going until your bag is completely inside the stuff sack. Do not store your bag compressed for long term, it will crush the loft.

Compressing a synthetic bag:
Start similarly to a down bag, foot end in first. Keep trying to compress your synthetic bag in to your stuff sack. Get frustrated, give up and use stuff sack to carry extra socks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:45:42 No.665760 Report

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>>665756
No, the Atmosphere comes in S, M and L torso lengths and is adjustable within those size ranges as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:49:51 No.665769 Report

Quoted By: >>665774

>>665756
>comes with an adjustable length which is the only model of backpack im aware of that does this.

Then you are the least aware person n /out/ because literally almost every backpack company makes packs with adjustable torso lengths. Gregory, Osprey, REI, Kelty, Deuter, etc etc etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:55:08 No.665774 Report

Quoted By: >>665783

>>665769

ok
but what makes the osprey special over the 60$ teaton?
weight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 19:59:11 No.665783 Report

Quoted By: >>665808

>>665774
Osprey has an iron-clad, no questions asked lifetime warranty. If your pack ever breaks or fails, send it to them and the will fix it free of charge (minus shipping costs).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 21:00:27 No.665807 Report

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>>665692
i literally just got the xenith 75!
Good stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 21:02:19 No.665808 Report

Quoted By: >>665821 >>665829 >>665921

>>665783

ive bought 40$ ebay packs from china and taken them to more extreme places than you will ever be...

the only reason i dont use them anymore is because they get dirty.

packpacks are not complicated, and nylon is not expensive

wanna run that by me again?
why exactly is the osprey better than the teaton?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 21:30:03 No.665821 Report

Quoted By: >>665924

>>665808
Amazing back support? great build materials? nicely organized compartments and storage options, also when you get one you KNOW you it's reliable and wont possibly break down on you like china poop. Im not saying all china stuff breaks of course you can get good ones for cheap but when u buy brands u have that sort of reliability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 21:44:51 No.665829 Report

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>>665808
At least include some examples for your claims to make it more believable.
You take them to these "extreme places" and stop using them because they get dirty? And nylon come in all sorts of forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 22:28:18 No.665871 Report

Quoted By: >>665892

What could go wrong if i buy shitty cheap backpack for 2 week trip?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 23:08:59 No.665892 Report

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>>665871
I don't think anything would happen unless it's total junk. But it's likely that they use cheap material that can break faster than good quality stuff. Stitching, zippers, buckles and straps etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 23:48:29 No.665911 Report

Quoted By: >>673535 >>684847

So I am putting together myself a decent kit and I really aim to have it not really lightweight but having only essentials so I can have things that I prefer to bring for either aesthetics or ease of use.
I would love some suggestions! I feel that it is complete, I just don't know which direction to take the kit further. I live in a sub tropical environment with lots of wetlands to resource. Thanks in advance.
Bushcraft Gear List
10lbs. 13.7oz Base Weight

Ruck-
1 lb. 1.5 oz Rolly Polly Extreme

Shelter-
1 lb. 6.8 oz Stansport Tarp
1 lb. 8.4 oz Grandtrunk Ultralight Hammock/ Atlas Suspension Straps
6.5 oz. Shemagh
9.1 oz Merino Long Sleeve Shirt
3.0 oz Woolsmart Socks x2

Tools-
1 lb. 2.7 oz EDC Pouch (Small Tools/Medkit)
8.9 oz Bk16
6.7 oz Bahco Laplander
2.5 oz Stanley Headlamp
4 oz Maglite LED XL 50
3.6 oz TP
7.6 oz 100ft Paracord

Containers-
12.1 oz Guyot SS 32 oz/ Blue Desert Hydration System (Empty)
13.7 oz Naglene SS 38 oz (Empty)
7.7 oz Stanley SS Cooker
1.3 oz Shammy/ Brillo Pad

On Person-
Felt Wide-brimmed Hat
Marino Long-sleeved Shirt
Dickies Short Sleeved Shirt ( Synthetic Auto-Wicking)
Dickies Work Pants ( Synthetic Auto-Wicking)
Woolsmart Merino Socks
Leather Boots
Merino Gloves
Bandana
Watch
Firesteel
Zippo

Adding-
Bankline
SOL Escape Bivi
Fishing Kit

EDC Pouch-
Riteinrain Pad
Sharpie
Moleskins
Bandaids
Swisstool
Eatntool
Toolbrush
Toolpaste
Nail Clipper
Whistle
Boker Oilpen
Mini Bic
Compass
Steel Wool
Sandpaper
Tigerbalm
Prid (Blister Balm)
Badger Balm (Hydrating Oils)
Burt's Bees
B.C. Powder (Pain & Caffeine)
Topo Map

The one thing I feel is unjustified in most people eyes is my Zippo. Now I will just explain my preference for it. I like it! Simply. That's good enough for me. It creates the flame of a good candle without the mess, holds emergency tinder inside, Is a great spark based fire starter, and when I'm bored it keeps me entertained with tricks to pass time.

I'm looking for a new ruck btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2016 23:59:38 No.665921 Report

Quoted By:

>>665808
Why are you trying to start a fight? What's the point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2016 00:14:49 No.665924 Report

Quoted By:

>>665821

amazing back support?
but how?

can you be more specific?

are you sure you are not full of shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2016 01:56:42 No.665985 Report

Quoted By: >>669841

No idea about backpacks, just starting to think about a semi-bugout kit for the car to get me back to my loved ones in case SHTF. Any good ones that are unassuming and relatively small?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 02:34:23 No.666802 Report

Quoted By: >>671607 >>677987 >>678523 >>688224

I'm thinking about getting a Kelty Red Cloud 90. I found it for sale at $99 right now on woot.

I have a 35L pack right now that I use for overnights, but I'd like to move into some multi-day trips. I was looking at the Teton Sports Explorer 4000, but I figured for the extra $30 I might as well get the Kelty and have the extra space if I ever need it.

Any anons have one or have any thoughts about it?

picrelated

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 07:58:56 No.666966 Report

Quoted By: >>668810 >>697540

I got myself a 100L+20L British PLCE. Pretty cheap, sturdy, waterproof and moderately comfy. Bought it for 50€.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 15:43:24 No.667812 Report

Quoted By: >>668726

Made this for you guys about a year ago, not sure if I ended up posting, so here ya go.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:02:00 No.668555 Report

Quoted By: >>668708 >>668723 >>668725

Can anyone recommend a daypack that has good airflow to the back or has a mesh suspension like pic related?

I get annoyed at having my back constantly wet from sweat and having to air it out.

I'd buy it from the website I saw it on but it's in Japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 20:17:53 No.668708 Report

Quoted By: >>668939

>>668555
Deuter makes some good daypacks with trampoline backs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 20:56:31 No.668723 Report

Quoted By: >>668939

>>668555
Do you want super light or more packing and carrying features?

Also, don't overlook what you are wearing as a base layer. Something like capilene or other fast drying material can really help keep your back dry with a pack on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 20:59:55 No.668725 Report

Quoted By: >>668939

>>668555
Good ole Berghaus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 21:00:29 No.668726 Report

Quoted By:

>>667812
I like this. We should expand on it to make one good " /out/ pack guide" info graphic. how to load, good examples of popular packs, internal vs. external, how to fit and adjust.

might work on this if you guys think it's a worthwhile idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 23:34:41 No.668810 Report

Quoted By: >>670031

>>666966
Where have you put your sleeping bag in that and how big is it? cheers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 00:32:53 No.668859 Report

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Has anyone tried MEC's 85L Serratus?

Im upgrading from a shitty 65L

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 01:00:23 No.668879 Report

Quoted By: >>668942

I don't know why this board seems obsessed with "is this backpack good". I have never had a bad backpack in my life and I have owned and used everything from school bags to military surplus to external frame to internal frame. Frameless square cavnas bags I don't like because they are uncomfortable but thats just my opinion, not like the bag failed in any way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 01:52:30 No.668936 Report

Quoted By: >>687146

>>665728
I lurk /out once every few months. I just came on to ask about this same pack..... Great timing. I was really curious about the durability. I know Ospry is a trustworthy brand, but i'm buying this for a thruhike in the summer so I want to be sure that this nylon mesh "anti-gravity" support system isn't going to leave me stranded with a broken pack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 01:53:52 No.668939 Report

Quoted By: >>669007 >>669008

>>668708
Thanks. I'll check it out.

>>668723
It doesn't need to be very light. I want to keep the price as close to $100 and 25 liters as possible.

>>668725
I'll have a look at those too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 01:55:39 No.668942 Report

Quoted By: >>675608

>>668879

Everything will work fine.

I think it's more about bang for buck and comfort over longer distances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 03:57:43 No.669007 Report

Quoted By: >>669301

>>668939
I have a little Arcteryx Cierzo 25 that I got pretty recently. Nothing specifically for what you are talking about, but it is light but durable, compressible, and very comfortable. I wear it on my bike and I've never noticed any sweat or moisture on my back and I'm a fairly sweaty guy.

25 L and 100 dollars msrp. Might at least be something to look at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 03:58:06 No.669008 Report

Quoted By: >>669301

>>668939
Take a look at the REI Traverse 28. I think it goes for about $120.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 16:16:25 No.669301 Report

Quoted By:

>>669007
I'll try it on if I can find it. Thanks.

>>669008
I'd buy the shit out of this if the CAD wasn't eating so much dick right now.

Right now, I'm thinking of spending extra on this

http://www.mec.ca/product/5035-778/boreas-muir-woods-30-daypack-unisex/?No=40&h=10+50042+50587+50804&f=10+50804

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 14:24:01 No.669833 Report

Quoted By:

>>665689
I see you are expecting anons to do thier own research by reading experts and not be spoon fed questionable opinions by random strangers?

How quaint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 14:41:21 No.669839 Report

Quoted By:

>>665696
Osprey

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 14:48:41 No.669841 Report

Quoted By:

>>665985
Standard response will be the 5.11 rush.
You can get the yukon outtfitters alpha pack for about 1/3 the price. The yukon alpha is like a knockoff of the 5.11 rush but with surprisingly good quality
Pic related is yukon alpha

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 20:17:20 No.670031 Report

Quoted By: >>679012

>>668810
Sleeping bag's in the bottom. It fits basically all of my stuff into the bag. The pack came with two 10L side pouches, which are attached via zippers to the sides. They make the bag pretty big so I packed my tent into them and put into the backpack. The sleeping bag's roughly 40cm x 20cm x 20cm, fits nicely into the bag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2016 21:51:34 No.671598 Report

Quoted By:

>>665691
buy a valved drybag that's about 2.5x the volume of the compression sack your sleeping bag was delivered in.

dump the sleeping bag in, roll the top a few times and clip it, open the valve and sit down on it until it's pancake-flat. seal the valve, job done.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2016 22:05:04 No.671607 Report

Quoted By:

>>666802
Thats a pretty good sale
I have a Kelty Catalyst 80 that I paid $190 for and I really love it. Kinda rushed into buying it but its served me well, I feel like i got my moneys worth.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 04:39:49 No.673271 Report

Quoted By: >>673360 >>673389 >>673409 >>673493 >>684609 >>684834

Any experience with theses for 3-4 day camping trip/BOB?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171898998792?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 08:30:59 No.673360 Report

Quoted By: >>673493

>>673271
Oh god that looks retarded.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 08:45:22 No.673370 Report

Quoted By: >>673401 >>677360

>>665637
Sexy pack incoming

Have a shitload of packs, from 10L to 125L. Favorite go-to bag is the 2012 Bergans Helium, which now is redesigned for 2016, pic related

55L Volume, under 1000g, adjustable carry system and good for 17kg weight. Hard to beat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 10:06:40 No.673389 Report

Quoted By: >>673493

>>673271
Don't buy that pos dude, stitching sucks and if it doesn't fail, the bucles will. You'll be better of going to REI or a surplus store, if you want a tac bag, get an actual military one, not a shitty branded rip off, do research

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 10:42:27 No.673401 Report

Quoted By: >>673544

>>673370
I've been keeping that pack in mind for the next time I buy a pack. How sturdy/comfortable is the frame? I've never used a pack with that style of aluminum sheet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 11:02:26 No.673409 Report

Quoted By: >>673493

>>673271
>3/4 days camping trip
>Huge heavy portage backpack covered in mole
My advice is to take another bag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 16:05:54 No.673493 Report

Quoted By:

>>673271
>>673360
>>673389
>>673409
I don't get the hate. Personally I think this bag looks a fuckton nicer than the keltys, ie every other bag these days (& I own a kelty)
I bet for 95% of people on /out this bag is fine for $37
I love the fact there are lots of separate pockets. That is the feature I miss most on 'new-age' bags.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 16:08:28 No.673494 Report

Quoted By: >>678319 >>678955 >>685843 >>693000

No bully plz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 17:21:31 No.673535 Report

Quoted By:

>>665911
>1 lb. 6.8 oz Stansport Tarp
>1 lb. 8.4 oz Grandtrunk Ultralight Hammock/ Atlas Suspension Straps
For the same weight, you have a 2P tent.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2016 17:41:29 No.673544 Report

Quoted By: >>677360

>>673401
I own the "old" model, and the new one isn't even in stores yet -- so I can't comment on that one.

The old one (the one I have) is great -- but I mostly just take the aluminum "rod" out of it, anyway: just stuff in a foam pad or similar for back support and load transfer..

Mine (pic related) original (1180g)/mauled(875g)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 05:20:23 No.674152 Report

Quoted By: >>674164 >>677360

What backpacks have the best waterproofing?
Will be backpacking in the rainforest for a month and dont want all my stuff wet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 05:45:11 No.674164 Report

Quoted By: >>674317

>>674152
Any backpack with stitching will leak. Keep all your shit in a garbage bag and wear a rain poncho over your backpack.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:32:48 No.674303 Report

Quoted By: >>676321 >>687840

gimme some advice on this guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 13:35:41 No.674316 Report

Quoted By:

I hear Osprey is going to release more packs with AG this year.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 13:40:38 No.674317 Report

Quoted By:

>>674164
>garbage bag
Nope.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2016 22:35:59 No.675345 Report

Quoted By: >>675351

thoughts?
Poncho: Rainponchos.com 70 Denier 1.9 Nylon Ripstop Camouflage
*Shemagh(http://workinggoats.com/?id=549)
*Dust goggles: Maxim Hybrid Faru 3M
TShirt(x2): Icebreaker Basics Lightweight Crewe Short Sleeve (Merino Wool)
*Gloves: Stonebreaker The Rancher
Jacket: The North Face All Terrain II Triclimate combined with Berghaus Men's Verdon II Hoody
*Pants : Duluth Trading Co. Men's Fire Hose Work Pants
Belt: 1.5" Trainer Belt
*Socks(x2): Smartwool Adult Hike Light Crew Socks
*Boxer Shorts(x2): Under Armour Men's 'The Original' 3 Inch Boxer Shorts
*Backpack: The North Face Recon Backpack
Sleeping Bag: Sea to Summit Traveller combined with Gear Aid Ellipse Toggle Cord Locks
Shelter: Sea to Summit Escapist Tarp Shelter
Umbrella: REI Travel Umbrella
Shoes: Merrell Pulsate Mid Waterproof, Men’s Hiking Boots
*Cooking: Lodge 20.32 cm / 8 inch Pre-Seasoned Cast Iron Round Skillet / Frying Pan
Fire: www.kodiakfirestarters.com/our-products/
*Spork(x2): Light-my-Fire Titanium Spork
*Water filtration: Sawyer Products Mini Water Filtration System
Water Bottle: 1 Liter stainless Steel canteen
*Plate: Stainless steel 22 cm Laken plate
Compass: Phosphorescent Lensatic Compass 27
Chopping, prying: Outland Equipment Multi-Mission Axe 1501
SAS Tactical Bow
*Knife: Morakniv Companion Heavy Duty (Carbon Steel)
*Sewing kit: Mudder Sewing Kit for Travel, Home and Emergency
*Head lamp: Petzl Tikka Plus 160 lumens
*AAA Batteries: Panasonic Eneloop 750 mah 2100 charges
Sharpening: Lansky Sharpeners PS-MED01 Blade Medic - Black
Multitool: Leatherman wave
Generator: Powertraveller Crankmonkey
*Main Battery: EasyAcc 9000mAh Power Bank Waterproof Dustproof Shockproof
*AA-AAA charger: PortaPow USB intelligent Charger
Binoculars: Bushnell 10x42mm H2O

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2016 22:40:39 No.675351 Report

Quoted By: >>692111

>>675345
* means I own the item already. My question is. Is there any way I can modify my North Face Recon to add straps or something to attatch my bow to it? Also I'm amazed how everyone seems to need a 50 liter backpack... I'm fine with 31 liters and a pouch

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2016 22:45:50 No.675355 Report

Quoted By:

I have pic related on the way. So excited for my first serious pack. The company makes everything here in Canada and all their gear is really high quality. Everyone who buys stuff from them claims it lasts forever. Oddly enough their stuff isn't very well known.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2016 23:10:42 No.675369 Report

Quoted By: >>675371 >>675374

I going to hike a volcano this friday and I bought
a cheap 45L pack
The volcano is around 3972 mts (13031.5 ft.), the hike is about 5 hours at a slow pace.
Do you guys think it's too shitty?

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2016 23:11:55 No.675371 Report

Quoted By:

>>675369
Here`s the back part

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2016 23:17:42 No.675374 Report

Quoted By: >>675377

>>675369
Why would you need 45 L ? I'm not criticising i'm just wondering. Is it really cold where you are?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2016 23:20:38 No.675377 Report

Quoted By:

>>675374
Nope, but it was the easiest way to cop a bag where I am

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2016 23:23:43 No.675379 Report

Quoted By: >>692111

What does /out/ think of S.O.C bags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2016 04:32:32 No.675608 Report

Quoted By:

>>668942
Absolutely this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2016 04:35:11 No.675610 Report

Quoted By: >>675619 >>676351 >>676358

What is a good pack that i can have as a general hiking/camping/hunting pack? How large should I go? I don't want to spend too much but if I need to to get something worth a damn I will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2016 04:37:22 No.675616 Report

Quoted By:

>>665637
>tfw no reasonably priced back-panel loading bags just under Ryanair's carry-on requirements with adequate padded hip belts with integrated pockets and a built-in rain cover
Why live?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2016 04:41:09 No.675619 Report

Quoted By:

>>675610
Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2016 06:07:24 No.675679 Report

Quoted By:

>>665753
You have it exactly the wrong way around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2016 05:37:12 No.676321 Report

Quoted By:

>>674303

Ditch one swiss army knife and the large fixed blade.

You don't need 3 fucking knives and don't need the fixed blade when you have a hatchet.

If you just like carrying 3 knives for fun then have at 'er.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2016 07:00:07 No.676351 Report

Quoted By:

>>675610
what do you plan to do specifically? those 3 activities are very different. hunting can mean carrying animal quarters out of the woods for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2016 07:19:57 No.676358 Report

Quoted By:

>>675610

I've been agonizing over this for about a week.

For me, it has to be a good balance of durability, and versatility at about 30l with a breathable back yet not try-hard looking and covered in molle or realtree for when I have to use it in public.

I don't really need a meat freighter because I'm only hunting coastal blacktail which are relatively small.

I ultimately decided on a jansport equinox 34.

We'll see how it goes.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2016 22:21:26 No.677360 Report

Quoted By: >>677714

>>673370
>>673544
Me again
>>674152
My new pack, arrived today:

>Outdoor Research Summit Sack
>27 L
>318 g

Pack pictured has food for two days, tent, stakes, ground cloth, mosquito net, sleeping bag, liner, two sleeping pads (one thin long and one inflatable short) extra clothes (down puffy, socks, gloves and beanie), 0,9L pot, caldera cone, knoife, spoon, lighter, ditty bag (personal care, hygiene, first aid kit and rep kit), headlamp, tent lamp and kindle.

I did NOT order the tacticool coloring ("coyote" color, I ordered "brown",, but this is what I received).

Anyway: I love it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 05:56:03 No.677626 Report

Quoted By: >>677635

>>665637
I'm looking for a new bag .

I'd need something that us compartmentized enough to handle school supplies, but also sturdy/large enough to manage gear for an overnight summer campout (max shelter I'd take is a tarp/blanket)

My price range is up to $200, but cheaper is much much preffered.

Anyone have suggestions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 06:14:45 No.677632 Report

Quoted By:

>>665637
Backpack general is a great idea, OP. Now if we could only get a general for 'I choose to become homeless and live off the lush fat of the land, please red pill me on what the outdoors look like' threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 06:24:37 No.677635 Report

Quoted By: >>687830 >>687919

>>677626
The answer is always Kelty Redwing

>comes in 32, 44 and 50 liter
>is always on sale somewhere

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 06:54:30 No.677646 Report

Quoted By: >>677670 >>677964 >>677966

What does one even do with all these fucking straps? Shotgun because America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 08:37:02 No.677670 Report

Quoted By:

>>677646
Attach things to the outside of course. Like a sleeping pad, tent poles, etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 11:57:16 No.677714 Report

Quoted By: >>684837

>>677360
Total weight: 3716g, that is 8 pounds and 3 ounces for amerifags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 20:10:51 No.677964 Report

Quoted By:

>>677646
Snowshoes, ice axe, snow rails, avalanche probe, shovel, hatchet, dirty camp shoes, wet tent fly, gun, fishing rod, tent poles, Sleeping pad, (if you don't have an inflatable), sar panel charger, etc etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 20:12:12 No.677966 Report

Quoted By:

>>677646
The ones on the sides and lid are primarily compression straps, they squeeze the load together and keep the weight close to the frame.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 20:27:17 No.677979 Report

Quoted By: >>678024 >>678028 >>679019

Would I be a faggot if I bought this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 20:38:23 No.677987 Report

Quoted By: >>678161

>>666802
I have this pack. You can only get it in black from one vendor online, (backcountry edge) and i paid 150 or 160 when i got it.

I think this is a great deal that you have found. I have had no problems at all with my pack. There aren't a whole lot of features on the thing, but it surely gets the job done. All of the straps are very sturdy as well as the fasteners. I love how I can put my fishing pole underneath the side pockets and secure it right into the cup holder pouch. This would probably also work for a 22 but i've never tried it.

The only issue with such a big size, I would say, is that you tend to bring more shit with you. So try to avoid that.

Idk what else to say though, it's a pretty basic backpack, hard to review something so straight forward... I'll lurk the thread if you have any specific questions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 21:50:23 No.678024 Report

Quoted By:

>>677979
looks cool, seems nice, also MOLLE
buy it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 21:54:06 No.678028 Report

Quoted By:

>>677979
Protip: spend less time worrying about what other people think. If you like the bag and it suits your needs, buy it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 22:02:02 No.678031 Report

Quoted By: >>678034

Posting a few helpful images on loading and fitting a pack.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2016 22:03:56 No.678034 Report

Quoted By: >>682195 >>688257

>>678031
Biggest problem I noticed as a packfitter is guys wearing their hipbelts too low. Gotta make sure that belt wraps around your illiac crest so your hips can take the weight.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2016 01:03:24 No.678161 Report

Quoted By: >>678167

>>677987
I think that sums up Kelty packs in general. Simple, functional, durable.

That's why the trailogic system confused me so much. It's such a weird, complicated un-Kelty design.

Plus, under all the fancy pockets it's just a Redwing 50.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2016 01:10:47 No.678167 Report

Quoted By: >>678169 >>697542

>>678161
lmao wtf is going on in this picture

it looks like a transformer

I think this is just kelty's attempt at getting you to purchase all of their products at once, which might be a decent salesmanship idea... idk, i'm not much of a bidnessman.

It would be cool if you were just getting into /out/ stuff and you could buy everything in pic relatedin a single package i guess

it just seems like they're telling you what to buy and where to put it. and this is the exact opposite of what being /out/ is all about

/trainofthought

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2016 01:18:47 No.678169 Report

Quoted By: >>678171

>>678167
I had a hard time moving them, most people didn't like the idea of having to buy all the matching gear and/or they already had gear that wouldn't fit in it.

Another problem is that you could make that same set up with a standard Redwing 50 and standard Kelty gesr for like 2/3 the price. So they were sort of undercutting themselves.

They only other pack I can think of that flopped so hard was the Granite Gear nimbus core, the one that was designed to wrap around a bear canister.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2016 01:20:29 No.678171 Report

Quoted By: >>681800

>>678169
This weird-ass thing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2016 05:56:31 No.678319 Report

Quoted By:

>>673494
FUCK YEAH METAL GEAR !

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2016 16:23:09 No.678523 Report

Quoted By:

>>666802
I've got the 110 version. It's a very good pack. Super fucking durable too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Feb 2016 02:11:49 No.678955 Report

Quoted By:

>>673494
bro-tier
10/10 would wear ashes into battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Feb 2016 03:26:13 No.679012 Report

Quoted By:

>>670031
thanks man looks great, a little similar to my bergaus centurio

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Feb 2016 03:31:27 No.679019 Report

Quoted By:

>>677979
sexy bag
also expensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2016 20:00:18 No.681800 Report

Quoted By:

>>678171
I agree, that is most queer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2016 07:11:19 No.682195 Report

Quoted By: >>682220 >>684792

>>678034
What about fat people with big guts?

What's the correct way to wear it then? Just have the belt cut into the fatty bits?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2016 08:05:24 No.682220 Report

Quoted By: >>682229

>>682195
Some packs have interchangeable belts, so you can put like an XL belt on a medium pack. Or you can get belt extenders.

Or you could do some sit ups, fatso.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2016 08:54:31 No.682227 Report

Quoted By: >>682228 >>682233

>>665637
So, am I correct in thinking that even with a nice suspension, a 1606 frame, and lifter panels an Alice Large is just a novelty because it's 7lb?

Or is the 2-3 lbs over an equivalent size bag acceptable for the external organization and easy super secure lash on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2016 08:56:10 No.682228 Report

Quoted By:

>>682227
Well I notice that most of the eberlestocks and mystery ranch tactical bags are even fucking heavier than 7 lbs.

But they also aren't made for backpacking, I think mystery ranch's 3 day camping bag is more like 4-5 lbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2016 08:57:41 No.682229 Report

Quoted By: >>684019

>>682220
Sit ups don't make you skinny tard.

Metabolism enhancement or calorie reduction does.

For example, I am currently losing my chubb bit by bit by swimming 3000yd every weekday at 6AM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2016 09:07:40 No.682233 Report

Quoted By:

>>682227
I really want to have someone make me an alice large out of X-Pac fabric instead of the fairly heavy nylon canvas they are made out of.

I bet you could bring the weight of the bag itself down from 3.3lbs to like 1.8-2 lbs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2016 09:31:08 No.683864 Report

Quoted By: >>684845 >>692111

How do you feel about the bags by Direct Action? I know they are covered in that laser MOLLE but I've actually heard decent things about the bags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2016 18:06:33 No.684019 Report

Quoted By:

>>682229
It's obviously just a phrase.

Get over yourself, bud

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 10:30:40 No.684609 Report

Quoted By:

>>673271
Looks like the inbred child of a brit field pack and the MOLLE II ruck

That is, it looks like shit and probably doesn't work well. If you want a durable bag that holds a lot of shit for cheap, get ALICE. If you don't like the strapping that comes with it, learn how to modify it into a 'hellcat'.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 14:25:13 No.684659 Report

Quoted By: >>684724 >>684831 >>684973

Thinking about getting a um21, anyone have experience with one? Also right now I use a my rucksack that has a rigid frame. What are the pro's and con's of rigid vs non-rigid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 16:39:17 No.684724 Report

Quoted By:

>>684659
slovak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 18:30:53 No.684792 Report

Quoted By:

>>682195
Cinch the hipbelt around your forehead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 19:07:08 No.684824 Report

Quoted By: >>692111

>>665692
Do you actually put a minimum of 50 lbs in like the guide on the site? Seems excessive.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 19:13:37 No.684831 Report

Quoted By: >>684942

>>684659
By rigid do you mean as opposed to foam, or like internal vs external?

The advantage of an external frame is airflow and depending on the design usually a more erect posture.

The advantage of an internal frame is a closer more comfortable fit and usually less weight.

A curved plastic external frame, only found on military packs, is a hybrid between the two, they offer a very good fit with airflow and weight between internal and external frame packs.

I love my 1606ac alice large, with the old strait frame it was just not comfortable, but with the curved plastic frame it's comfy as fuck and really delivers on the original ALICE promise of a pack that doesn't limit your mobility.

It still lacks lift of course, for the same reason it offers enhanced mobility, because it is short and squat, and it's still 7 pounds because the Alice large is a 3+ pound indestructable bag.

Pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 19:16:22 No.684834 Report

Quoted By:

>>673271
It looks like it is very heavy and doesn't have much rigidity.

I would go with the tried and true ALICE if you really want something under 50 dollars.

Or you know, spend more money and get something actually good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 19:19:22 No.684837 Report

Quoted By: >>684998

>>677714
Wait... is that the weight of the bag or the bag and it's contents?

Seems too high to be the bag, too low to be the contents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 19:26:45 No.684845 Report

Quoted By:

>>683864
bumping question; anybody have experience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 19:30:26 No.684847 Report

Quoted By: >>687016 >>687302

>>665911
>shemagh
Such meme, buff/reconwrap/etc tube bandannas are so much better/lighter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 21:36:45 No.684942 Report

Quoted By:

>>684831
Note:

A MOLLE 2 full ruck with 1609 frame is heavier than an Alice Large, and an alice large with a 1606 frame and really nice padded straps is about the same as a regular alice large, its like a third pound lighter frame but a third pound heavier straps.

It is a myth that military packs have been getting lighter since ALICE, that isn't why alice is outdated, it's outdated because the rigid frame and ultralight straps are not comfy.

Though, if you made an alice out of a combination of 2oz ripstop and 1000Denier cordura it would be much much lighter, I wish someone would do that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 21:53:02 No.684954 Report

Quoted By:

I bought this for $35 off craigslist in Portland. I've been through many backpacks on the road but this one is probably the best for what I spent and what it is. Would recommend the design in any sturdy brand.

Anyone looking for a good pack should search Craigslist and hold out for a good buy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 22:27:45 No.684973 Report

Quoted By:

>>684659
Estonia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Feb 2016 23:16:48 No.684998 Report

Quoted By:

>>684837
Bag including all content, also including tenkara fishing kit.

Could actually have made it lighter if dumping the Duomid for a flat tarp..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Feb 2016 20:16:23 No.685674 Report

Quoted By: >>687898 >>692111

What is purpose of plus backpacks (i mean backpacks like 60+10 or 70+15 etc), im really noob at this and want to buy a backpack for a start, so plus ones are better or not?

Also im thinkin to buy Pinguin Explorer 75, pic and video related. Please help me on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GcM6Ak4OWM

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Feb 2016 21:36:44 No.685765 Report

Quoted By: >>692111

hey guys i'm new here. is the black diamond mercury a decent pack?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Feb 2016 23:38:36 No.685843 Report

Quoted By:

>>673494
how is that supposed to hold your axe in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Feb 2016 15:20:24 No.686893 Report

Quoted By: >>692111

What you guys think about easy camp backpacks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Feb 2016 19:21:05 No.687016 Report

Quoted By:

>>684847
I'm a smartwool zealot
Have a full underlayer system with neck gaiter

I fucking love my cotton shemagh thingy

I'm not going to use my 30$ Marino neck gaiter to grab a hot pan from the fire

Wool sux in the summer

I've used it as a bathing towel in an emergency

All for 10$

Need I go on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Feb 2016 23:19:52 No.687146 Report

Quoted By:

>>668936
What hike? Osprey will ship out a new pack no questions asked if you can make it to a nearby town.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 00:04:57 No.687187 Report

Quoted By: >>692980

>>665637
I'm looking for a new daypack in about the 15-30L range. Trying to stay at about $50, any recommendations?
Currently looking at the Marmot Helm or Ultra Kompressor 22. Anyone have experience with them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 03:39:50 No.687291 Report

Quoted By: >>692111

Anybody know of somewhere one could get a hipbelt sewn on to a backpack? I've got and awesome dakine I use for short 3-4 day hikes but need waist support?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 04:11:05 No.687302 Report

Quoted By: >>687847

>>684847
I'm talking about the polyester ones like spec ops brand recon wrap.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 10:09:33 No.687457 Report

Quoted By: >>687822

Anyone know the make and model or any information of the bag in this picture?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 10:58:11 No.687477 Report

Quoted By:

I have multiple bags but this is my favorite one for when i go hiking or fishing over the day, really comfy and it has a chair

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 21:57:56 No.687822 Report

Quoted By:

>>687457
How is that pack just floating there?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 22:10:02 No.687830 Report

Quoted By: >>687873

>>677635
>The answer is always Kelty Redwing

Is this the consensus? Looking at getting the 50L for about $100

Anything else worth considering?

I keep leaning toward mole tactical shit because I'm a dumbcunt. Help me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 22:23:09 No.687840 Report

Quoted By:

>>674303
I feel like a multi-tool would be better than the 2 swiss army knives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 22:38:38 No.687847 Report

Quoted By:

>>687302
Polyester? Never seen one that wasn't 100% cotton.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 23:24:52 No.687873 Report

Quoted By: >>688165

>>687830
Protip: You don't actually need MOLLE all over your pack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 00:35:07 No.687898 Report

Quoted By:

>>685674
Plus just means you can expand/overstuff it if you need to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 01:36:50 No.687919 Report

Quoted By: >>688162

>>677635
Why does the 32 exceed carry-on size? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 12:03:12 No.688152 Report

Quoted By:

What you guys thing about Decatlon/quechua backpacks? I mean cheap forclaz series, im poor euro fag, so my question is, if these are absoluty awful walmart tier or decent for price? Should i work more and buy a decent one or quechua is ok?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 13:10:24 No.688162 Report

Quoted By:

>>687919
Carry on is a meme anyway... What about your blade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 13:21:56 No.688165 Report

Quoted By:

>>687873
That sounds limiting. You sound like the 'man', holding me back. You can't control me and my pack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 15:20:13 No.688224 Report

Quoted By: >>688227 >>688243

>>666802
I own a red cloud 90. It's been great. I would just make sure you keep the sleeping pad on the bottom or you will get wear on the bottom. If I recall it's only rated for like 45 lbs, which I've carried a lot, and I've pushed it to 60lb which I wouldn't reccomend. I've had zero problems and I have no issues with it.

>45 lbs
Yea ultralight fags you read that right.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 15:24:01 No.688227 Report

Quoted By:

>>688224

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 15:27:04 No.688231 Report

Quoted By:

Oh shit, I just made another general backpacking thread. My apologies mate.

I'm looking at getting http://www.fieldandstreamshop.com/p/field---stream-mountain-scout-65l-internal-frame-pack/15fnsafsmntnsct65ctp

It's 65L, had plenty of pockets, and it pretty comfortable. The only issue is that I can't really find any reviews of the backpack, much less field and stream backpacks in general. I tried it on in-store, and it felt nice. Thoughts on buying a backpack that isn't one of the major brands?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 16:08:43 No.688243 Report

Quoted By: >>688246 >>692346

>>688224
>45 lbs
>Yea ultralight fags you read that right.
How much weight is allowed to be an ultra-lighter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 16:14:32 No.688246 Report

Quoted By: >>688323 >>692346

>>688243
I think people aim for under 15-20lbs without food and water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 17:01:29 No.688257 Report

Quoted By:

>>678034
Thanks for this. Wondered why my kelty bag sat weird.... And its because I'm an idiot who used the hip belt wrong

I mean, i still got it comfortable. Just probably could have been a lot moreso

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 18:34:30 No.688316 Report

Quoted By: >>688324

So I just got a pack for school and everyday. I'll probably take it hiking and traveling once in a while. So my concern is without a computer, there's nothing to keep it in anyway supportive. Are there any companies that make semi-rigid sheets/sitting pads that will fit in the laptop sleeve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 18:44:10 No.688323 Report

Quoted By:

>>688246
I'm fucked then, just camera gear alone is like 20+ when I have everything I'd like.
If I minimize that I can probably get down to 12-15#

mfw I'll never be an UL'r (imagine Homer DOH! image)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 18:49:34 No.688324 Report

Quoted By:

>>688316
Get a kneeling pad. Think they are in the gardening section of big box stores.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 21:20:16 No.688398 Report

Quoted By: >>689765 >>693996

Anybody know anything about the packs by Fox Outdoors? I stumbled across https://www.foxoutdoor.com/ today while looking for MILSURP CFP-90 packs. I determined sometime after that I'd rather not get myself a CFP-90 ( after learning why the bag was so short-lived with the U.S. armed forces ) but thought the website still had some interesting bags. I don't want to make a purchase from a company I know nothing about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 18:38:56 No.688940 Report

Quoted By: >>688941

this is my first post on this board, just ordered this /out/
did I do good?
anyone has experience with this particular model?
I already had the mil tec pillot's helmet bag and it has never failed me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 18:40:18 No.688941 Report

Quoted By: >>689727 >>697716

>>688940
forgot pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2016 20:03:33 No.689727 Report

Quoted By: >>689738

>>688941
what i don't get about US military backpacks is why the aren't taller, less long(?) like most tracking backpacks or other military backpacks.
is the volume so low ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2016 20:23:30 No.689738 Report

Quoted By:

>>689727
Because room for helmet and head when lying prone shooting derkaderkas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2016 21:06:54 No.689765 Report

Quoted By: >>693996

>>688398
>https://www.foxoutdoor.com/
Also curious, I saw a really nice bag by them recently. Would like to know what people think

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2016 21:18:27 No.689774 Report

Quoted By:

I wanna backpack somewhere, I was thinking of maybe Japan. I want to go somewhere I could maybe camp or stay overnight at some place. What kind of stuff do I have to know and bring?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2016 21:42:19 No.690444 Report

Quoted By: >>691779

How big of a pack should I be considering for a 3-5 day pack? Any pack recommendations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2016 11:29:02 No.691779 Report

Quoted By: >>692326

>>690444
My 30l dakine works for a bout 3 days in winter, 5 in summer, I'm sacrificing a lot of luxuries though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2016 12:41:19 No.691793 Report

Quoted By: >>692111 >>692135

What should i buy for longterm/permanent backpacking and hoboing?

Is a 120L military pack the way to go or are there bigger backpacks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2016 15:14:43 No.691834 Report

Quoted By: >>692111

What bag do you recommend for someone who plans on camping +3 days in Georgia?

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2016 16:36:59 No.691875 Report

Quoted By: >>692125

Got this tough guy. Wisport renindeer 75l. Pretty lightweight and durable. Cordura fabric. Made in Polan. Available in few collors and camo patterns.
It cost about 100$. I Also EDC smaller, urban one.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2016 23:19:27 No.692090 Report

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You guys need to lurk more.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2016 23:27:00 No.692095 Report

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all i see is a bunch of yuppies that can't wait to shit in the woods so they can feel like men finally.

take a fucking kids walmart pack out there. just make sure to wear bright colors so real travelers can spot you easily.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2016 23:43:42 No.692111 Report

Quoted By: >>692212

>>675351
Be creative, not every one has a bow they need to attach on a bag.

>>675379
>S.O.C bags
Never heard of it, link.

>>683864
>Direct Action
Looks expensive, the laser molle is nice, though i would save the price ind find something else

>>684824
It is always optional, the only problem one would get is weight distribution and volume.

>>685674
'plus ones' like 70+15 means you have an optional compartment for extra volume. The plus refers to nothing but the extra volume you can get.

>>685765
Never tried it, looks decent and for an ok price, 1300 DKK = 200USD. Would use it for 3+ days hike.

>>686893
'easy'?

>>687291
Find your local chinese sewing shop. Though i would not recommend doing such hacks to your pack, you risk destroying it because the end result is not that good. I can't imagine it would turn out good, find some other pack with waist support.

>>691834
any 50L+ would do, get one with a waist belt. lurk for that size. Also test how much your stuff you plan on bringing fills. It would suck finding out you don't have room.

>>691793
I would just go with a 100L something backpack. It really depends on what you want to do. Maybe even get a duffel bag combined with a smaller backpack. This way you don't always have to log a 100L+ backpack around. You could always just have a stick and a scarf to hold your stuff.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2016 23:57:21 No.692125 Report

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>>691875
Looks neat. how much does it weigh empty?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 00:10:35 No.692135 Report

Quoted By: >>692141 >>692345

>>691793
Outdoor Products Dragonfly. Official pack of homeless kids across America.

Has the added bonus of being very cheap, so when you get robbed you're not losing a big investment.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 00:14:32 No.692141 Report

Quoted By: >>692161

>>692135
hobo here, never seen one wouldn't piss on it for a dollar. looks like something they give to dumbass yuppies trying to act like they like nature after they drive their suv more miles than they'll walk.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 00:21:18 No.692148 Report

Quoted By: >>692152 >>692160 >>697636

Has anybody bought this years' REI Flash 22 yet? I have an older model but according REI's website this model is substantially lighter (14.5 vs 18 oz)

Anyway I was wondering if the stated weight is correct for the new model, it looks more comfortable with the spacer mesh on the back too.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 00:26:02 No.692152 Report

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>>692148
does it come with a foam helmet that matches in color?
if so buy it.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 00:34:29 No.692160 Report

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>>692148
It's a better idea to save weight on what goes in the backpack than the weight of the backpack itself.

Because you want that backpack to be as comfy and supportive as possible for long distances. I'm not saying that backpack is not, because I don't know anything about it. But this is a trap that ultralighters can fall into if they are not careful.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 00:34:35 No.692161 Report

Quoted By: >>692168

>>692141
So you think the majority of people do not actually like nature because they live a good hours drive minimum from a decent national park?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 00:40:06 No.692168 Report

Quoted By: >>692196

>>692161
lol national park.
oh man does everything have to be pruned before you call it a forest or are you the one thats just that dense

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 01:16:34 No.692196 Report

Quoted By: >>692210 >>692226

>>692168
Try being less stuck up and less self righteous. Only idiots get offended by someone driving to somewhere they find interesting or beautiful. And people in big cities often don't have any worthwhile nature close by so why shouldn't they drive out to it?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 01:49:49 No.692210 Report

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>>692196
Don't feed the trolls.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 01:52:13 No.692212 Report

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>>692111
Thanks man

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 02:14:26 No.692226 Report

Quoted By: >>692253

>>692196
>live's in city to promote the eventual destruction of all nature.
>loves nature.

pick one fuck bag.
preservation doesn't start with you fucking yuppies filling the world up with more of your bullshit. A bag is a fucking bag. the only thing that should matter is the owner knowing how to fix or modify it when needed. yet you autistic fucks brag and brand drop like candy ass elitist.
mind as well reach under your stereotypical sinks and fill walmart bags full of the shit you're gonna leave behind when you drive away getting 15 miles to the gallon.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 03:24:38 No.692253 Report

Quoted By: >>692278

>>692226

you do realize that living in the city has an outrageously LOWER impact on nature than living in nature?

take one city with a 5 million population and a thousand small, spread out mountain towns with 5k population and see which one produces more emissions, paves more roads, litters more, etc etc

it won't even be a close comparison. living in the city will be lower impact by order(s) of magnitude.

You want to live as low impact as possible? Go live in a city. I'm a selfish bastard who enjoys nature too much so instead of crowding into a small area i instead on living where a bunch of trees and animals and grass lives, and my home no doubt has a negative impact on this environment, despite all precautions i take. Sorry.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 03:32:35 No.692256 Report

Quoted By: >>692335

What you guys think of eberlestock? Was looking at getting the v99 battleship for 5 day camping trips+military use.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 04:17:06 No.692278 Report

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>>692253
brought to us by Carls Jr.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 07:38:14 No.692326 Report

Quoted By: >>692347

>>691779
I have a 25l Dakine that I got for snowboarding. I thought it seemed a bit small though.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 08:12:42 No.692335 Report

Quoted By: >>692344 >>692528

>>692256
stupendous load hauling ability and toughness, it will survive you. however, they are monstrously heavy, and are massively overbuilt for typical hiking/backpacking purposes.

unless you're hauling mortar shells, ammo and 2 weeks of provisions through a broken battlefield, I'd consider other brands.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 09:01:16 No.692344 Report

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>>692335
Man, no wonder modern militaries have stepped up their conditioning so much in the last 100 years.

That just sounds awful.

Like, the frame and straps are obsolete now, but the ALICE was at least in the same category as what a backpacker would use.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 09:02:17 No.692345 Report

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>>692135
ah ha, so there are polymer frames other than downeast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 09:03:34 No.692346 Report

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>>688243
>>688246
The "rules" most people cite is that ultralight is base weight (not counting food and fuel) should be under 10 lbs, and under 20 pounds counts as lightweight.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 09:05:29 No.692347 Report

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>>692326
It really is, all my stuff is as compact as possible, i don't like huge packs

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 16:46:41 No.692528 Report

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>>692335
Thanks man. Going to reconsider that. Looking at the little brother to that pack now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 18:16:15 No.692569 Report

Quoted By: >>692700 >>692838

For hiking is there any reason to use a backpack and not a rucksack? I only ask because I bought a rucksack from the kommando store on the cheap, just for fun, but it's actually comfortable to hike with, better than my regular teton bag.

Or are backpack/rucksack used interchangeably?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 21:08:11 No.692700 Report

Quoted By: >>694312

>>692569
No, never use a rucksack when a backpack is called for and vice versa. The results could be dangerous and you could put yourself and others at risk.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Feb 2016 23:29:37 No.692838 Report

Quoted By: >>694312

>>692569
they are synonyms today

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Anonymous Sun 21 Feb 2016 01:53:15 No.692980 Report

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>>687187
>Ultra Kompressor 22

A steal at $50, just beware that the material is a very fine denier, if you intend to abuse your pack dont go with anything from the kompressor line. something like an REI Flash 22 has much stronger material for the weight at the cost of being barley structured enough for more than 20 lbs.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Feb 2016 02:25:37 No.693000 Report

Quoted By: >>693998

>>673494
Yo man where can I get that /out/ patch?

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 03:04:31 No.693996 Report

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>>688398
>>689765
Bumping them for interest. Also curious about the bags from Seek /Out/side.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 03:06:05 No.693998 Report

Quoted By: >>694001

>>693000
https://kommandostore.com/new-production/patches/

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 03:08:09 No.694001 Report

Quoted By: >>697690

>>693998
I should also mention the patch comes in iron-on and PVC hook/loop. THey also have a third sc/out/ patch further down the page.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 14:26:00 No.694312 Report

Quoted By: >>694323

>>692700
>>692838
The most comfortable thing I ever wore was my issued rucksack when I was in the army, is there anything that's like, exactly like that, but led military looking?

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 14:40:04 No.694323 Report

Quoted By: >>694359

>>694312
Same here my issue pack was comfy as Fuck , I got a smaller one from a cav scout I knew gave it to me cause he said it would be handier for me to carry my medic gear with it , still use it, only thing is it's dpm but it does the job and cost me nothing
My other pack is an American one I got from a guy , he gave me a few digital pattern first aid kits and a day pack , really sturdy pack and good for shorter trips but not as comfy as my own

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 15:28:15 No.694359 Report

Quoted By: >>694602

>>694323
Since they're so cheap (150ish) I might buy one of the issued rucksacks and just see if I can color it in some way, black or just green.

Any tips? Just use spray paint?

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 20:14:16 No.694602 Report

Quoted By: >>694777

>>694359

Fill garbage can with water and black hair dye. Let soak over night. Win.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 20:16:20 No.694606 Report

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Hey guys looking for a pack.

Budget is 100-150 dollars but im willing to spend more if it means a good increase in quality.

I usually go for about 1-3 day trips

it needs to fit or be able to strap and carry my MMSS.

Looking at stuff from teton and osprey.

Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2016 23:34:42 No.694777 Report

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>>694602
I think imma use like rain x or whatever that truck bed liner is called desu

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 06:08:15 No.697436 Report

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So, I've been looking to get my first hiking backpack soon. I've been to one of the hiking stores in my area (Alpine) and the fucker there just kept shilling the most expensive Osprey backpack they had. I realize they're good backpacks, but I don't really want to spend that much money. I'd rather spend somewhere around $150 if that's possible. Teton backpacks have caught my eye. Are they decent? I'm planning a 3 day/2 night hike for this summer, but I want to do some longer trips in the future. Pls help and pls no bully

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 06:16:18 No.697440 Report

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Just bought a Teton 3400 Scout for 55 bucks. Did I fuck up?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 09:58:15 No.697492 Report

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LK70 is the best on the market.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 12:58:52 No.697540 Report

Quoted By: >>697664

>>666966
I own the larger version of this pack, 120L Longback infanty bergan in OD. they're great

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 13:05:40 No.697542 Report

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>>678167
it looks like a transformer
top kek

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 16:27:05 No.697636 Report

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>>692148
also dat ass

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 16:51:59 No.697664 Report

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>>697540
Mine is also 120L, the bag itself is 100L + two 10L sidepouches. It really is great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 17:28:17 No.697690 Report

Quoted By:

>>694001
Thanks!

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 18:07:52 No.697716 Report

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>>688941
I'm noob to /out/ also buy my understanding is that because the weight is spread back rather than flat along your back, you're going to have to overcompensate by leaning forward and also the lack of a hip belt will result in you having to carry all the weight on your shoulders causing even more hunching. it's gonna fuck up your posture if you aren't careful with weight distribution and what not

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 19:12:17 No.697746 Report

Quoted By: >>697796

>>665637
I would buy it. Assuming I has extra money.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 20:31:09 No.697796 Report

Quoted By: >>697840

>>697746
what brand is that

moobs !!5gS2fLcXxz4

moobs !!5gS2fLcXxz4 Fri 26 Feb 2016 20:43:03 No.697804 Report

Quoted By: >>697809

>200+ replies

>no one mentions flextrek

Flextrek Augmenteon

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLNEzgXu0E

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 20:49:31 No.697809 Report

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>>697804
It's mentioned in every backpack thread useless tripfag.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 21:28:36 No.697840 Report

Quoted By: >>697850

>>697796
Haglöfs

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 21:41:18 No.697850 Report

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>>697840
Isn't that the big beardy guy from Harry Potter?

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