I keep seeing niche topics and such about gardening, but no general discussions. Let's fix that! How's everyone's gardens coming along? What are you looking to grow this year?
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
>my current indoor starts as of Sunday
Jean Stothert
Are you having problems, Jim?
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
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>>70391 Come say that to my face during the actual elections.
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>>70384 No gardening just yet. I have all my new seeds and saved seeds, but it's cold as a witch's tit still. Normally, April 1st is when I plant; Zone 5B. My biggest concern is building a chicken tractor and various chicken-related things at the moment. The biggest plan is to build the greenhouse that I've been planning for the past 3 years; from salvaged glass.
Here's a reposted (/diy/-/ck/) animated gif of the second year for one of my gardens.
I have 2 gardens, 8 large raised beds, 1 small raised by, several berry gardens, orchard, and other stuff I'm forgetting I'm sure. Which reminds me, I really need to go out and trim my grape vines ASAP.
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>>70386 You can plant outdoors whenever you want so long as you take precautions. Obviously, it shouldn't be dipping to freezing temps where small pools of water are icing over. Frost is always a concern, but you can stop frost by setting up your sprinkler system and having it water the plants in the early hours before the frost gets set or has a chance to burn off via the sun.
You'll need to harden your plants before setting them out of course (if you have any pre-started you'll be setting out). Otherwise, the shock of going from warm to cold will kill them outright.
For peppers, you really need to wait until the soil temps are up and constant before even considering to set them out. Otherwise, they'll either die or simply stop growing. The hotter the variety the more temperature sensitive they will be. The love hot and humid. So, consider making a small greenhouse for them or plastic cover. If you use plastic, make it double-walled. Set trays of gravel around them with water half way covering the gravel to aid in giving them more humidity.
For pet/pest control get some hardware cloth (grid of welded wire with 1/4" to 1/2" holes). It is easily cut and bended to make cages, lids, etc. Rabbit cage material will be stiffer and longer lasting than hardware cloth, as well as more costly in the short term.
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my winter greens are peaking. I've got more lettuce, arugula, collards, and swiss chard than I know what to do with.
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
>>70402 Thanks for the advice. I read up on the whole hardening off thing. I planted them two weeks ago and they'll likely be in there for another three weeks, so I'm mostly wondering if they'll need to be in actual dirt until I plant them outside or if keeping them in peat starter pots and giving them weak fertilizer on a weekly basis will be enough, especially if I decide to wait until mid-May when the temps are definitely more stabilized.
Anonymous
What should I grow on a north-facing balcony? I'm thinking tobacco or mint.
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This year im growing weed, of course, but also an aloe vera plant. outdoors i'll have tomatoes, beans, lettuce, celery, dill, asparagus, cabbage, watermelon, zuchinni, cucumbers and apples! Also i'll be picking berries and mushrooms that i helped to spread for 15+ years. Canada's growing season outdoors is kind of short but we make the best of it
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>>70412 i love those winter greens, i leave them for my mom to grow since she lives near a lake and enjoys more moderate weather
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>>70420 planting mint will work almost anywhere, a friend planted some in his back yard once and it spread like mad
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everyone should check into how to build simple hydroponics systems from recycling, ive seen people fill walls outside or the insides of windows.all you need is fish tank pump hoses, rubber seals, and plastic bottles cut in half
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>>70442 Tobacco is perfectly legal to grow. You don't get in trouble until you start selling it for profit.
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I just started a cucumber plant garden how long till they get big and make cucumbers. Its been like 2 weeks and they are only about 6 inches high right now.
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>>70470 depends on the state, man you can get into a lot of shit for personal consumption.
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>>70478 Thanks, there's more to it, but I never got it finished with the rest of the images.
>>70414 It depends on their root system. Right now you are sort of using a hydroponics method. If the plants and their roots are stable, you can plop the entire unit into soil when you plant them in a permanent spot. The fewer transplants you do the better.
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>>70473 >>70470 >>70442 http://www.ttb.gov/tobacco/tobacco-faqs.shtml#t16 >TTB does not license, or require a permit for, growing tobacco. In addition, TTB does not regulate the sale of tobaccos that are not tobacco products. The U.S. Department of Agriculture may regulate the growing and sale of such tobacco. You may find additional information from the U.S. Farm Service Agency. Essentially, it is 100% legal to grow your own tobacco for your personal use in the 50 states of the USA.
You just need a license to sell it. This is the same with fermenting your own alcohol.
Anonymous
Gonna start a vegetable garden this spring. I've been doing research on my own, but I'd love to get some tips from experienced gardeners as well.>Broccoli >Carrots >Garlic >Green beans >Parsley >Radishes >Spinach >Tomatoes
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
>>70495 All of those are pretty good beginner plants, aside from carrots. If you're gonna do carrots, just make sure the soil is worked nice and deep so they can grow bigger, and make sure they're spaced far apart enough. I've personally never had much luck with carrots.
And if you're doing garlic, it can and will spread like wildfire if you let it.
>>70483 Alright, cool. Thanks man.
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I thought I'd post a link to the 2012 updated map for the USA:
>2012 USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/ Click on your state to see a detailed map of it.
Ranger !KIoAn5GoCQ
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>>70495 With such a small area and a large variety of plant types, I highly suggest you research "companion planting" and look for a nice chart to show you what to plant near each other and what not to plant near each other. This will help you greatly.
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>>70550 Oh, there's a REALLY nice companion planting chart in PDF form,
http://farmtopreschool.org/pdf/2.3_CompanionPlanting_Chart.pdf I actually have this printed out and laminated.
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>>70545 Been wanting to grow my own tobacco for a while. I have not really researched the curing process. I grow lots of pot though and I figure the curing process is some what similar.
Ranger !KIoAn5GoCQ
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>>70596 Just did. The process is almost identical to curing pot
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>>70554 That's great. Would you recommend getting a companion for everything even if it's not something I intended to grow?
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Oh good! I've been looking for an excuse to talk about my garden!
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I'm just gonna dump some garden pics.
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>>70733 are these the pickled brains of your enemies ?
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>>70741 >are these the pickled brains of your enemies ? I would need more jars for that *muwa-hahahaaaaa*
Naw, just 'maters. Golden Cherokee, a sport of Cherokee Purple. Nice for eating out of hand, but too soft for canning really.
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>>70451 Yes I can attest to that. Mint grew fucking everywhere in my backyard even though I did no watering or weeding
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I am in zone 7b. I want to plant some roses. My soil is hard packed, full of weeds and gravel. What should I do?
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>>70678 You don't need to. Just don't place one plant next to another that is detrimental for it.
>>70789 >My soil is hard packed, full of weeds and gravel. What should I do? There are a few things you can do, but it boils down to two things,
1: recondition your existing soil
2: make raised beds/containers with their own soil
If you recondition the soil, you'll need to give it some moisture, dig it up, mix it with peat, sand, aged horse manure, or anything else it may be lacking (get a soil test kit to see what it may need as far as nutrients and acidity). Regardless, you'll need to till it up so that it is no longer hard-packed. Once you are done, it will be able to soak up water quickly and not pool it or run it off.
For raised beds or containers, you merely add better soil to them. These will be less work in the long run simply because you won't need to dig up compacted soil filled with aggravating gravel (it is seriously difficult work to do that).
In both instances, you'll be adding material to the area. The most work-intensive way to do it would be to till the hard soil then screen it to filter out the gravel then recondition it. Not fun.
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>>70789 >>70895 This Anon is right.
Hire a back hoe
How up the lot.
Rake to remove gravel.
Gravel is only good in purely sand nutrient poor soils and for plants requiring a cool root run.
Keep salvaged gravel in a huge pile to use for either a base or if toppings quality then a path surface.
Put a weed mat on the ground where you plan to put the raised beds- it can help reduce soil fungus which roses detest
Good luck.
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Any guerrilla gardeners on /out/? Im planting two guerrilla plots this year, but its not warm enough to start yet. Im going to plant mostly berry bushes that can basically grow unassisted. Last year i did more decorative pieces to touch up this sinfully ugly town i live in.
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>>70789 I would also suggest a backhoe. I have turned an urban lot into garden, it's very difficult. Turning the soil by hand isn't really possible. I suggest removing 6" of the "top soil" and replace it with the god stuff.
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Weed
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>>70957 Which is why I highly recommend making raised beds instead. You get good drainage and since the ground is all nice and packed already, you'll have nice walkways.
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>>70959 >Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Enjoy the fucking disgusting tasting seeds. Seriously, they're god damn horrible.
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>>70959 >Datura That stuff grows wild where I live and always pops up in my garden. It's really pretty and the flowers are MASSIVE. I'll never understand why someone would ever risk eating the seeds though. I was once at a public camp where one night a guy was screaming most of the night in pain. It was horrific. We found out the next morning that he'd eaten 2 datura seeds.
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>>70991 Is that some corn?
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>>71017 good eye, have 2 corn sprouts, already transferred them to 5 gallon containers.
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>>70991 Me too. Just spent all day working on the garden and patio area. Have a few different herbs, a pineapple, and 3 types of pepper outside atm.
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>>71030 What are you going to use the sage for? I thought about growing some, but realized my family never eats it.
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>>71049 Mostly Soups/Broths, Pizza/spaghetti sauce, and seasoning for foods.
>>71048 oh, have you grown pineapple before? sounds like a good thing to plant. did you just cut the top of one and planted it?
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>>71053 No this is my first time. It's a moody ass plant that I'm still trying to get down perfectly. I took the green top off, peeled back the bottom 4 sets of leaves, and put it in the dirt. It's grown a bit since august. I'm zone 9a.
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
>>71030 Does corn actually grow well in a pot? I've never really liked growing it (my backyard is very small, so I'd rather grow something with a bit more yield), but if I could throw a couple stalks in a pot I may consider doing it anyway since fresh corn's fuckin' baller.
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>>71111 GMO corns are made to be grown extremely close.
On the other hand, I have indian corn that sometimes has 8 ears of corn on it. It's like a freak of nature. 1 ear per leaf from ground to to. I thought I had a pic of it, but I'm not finding it yet...
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>>71111 yes you can, as long as you put 1 plant in a minimum 5 gallon container.
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>>71111 I have done corn in a container before. I put like 10 plants in a 30 gallon bin. I only got 9 ears though :(
pic related, its the corn.
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>>71434 looks nice bro, only thing i would suggest though is to fill the sand up to the rim, the more root space a plant has, the better the yield
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Yay! I love gardening!
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>>71061 You should know that the short stubby tops of pineapples in the store is misleading. Their leaves grow out to be about 3 feet across.
The plant will try to grow more than one fruit at a time. Keep cutting all but the main one out or you'll never get it to grow to eating size.
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>>71523 aquaponics!
woah bro, you should take a picture of that set up, im interested.
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>>70446 Grow chamomile with your weed. It encourages production of essential oils in the plants it grows near. In other words, better high.
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>>71531 Still getting it set up. It's my first time with a big tank, so I've made some mistakes. I want to grow cattails at one end, so the plan was to stack a bunch of pots and stuff for the fish to hide in, cover those with dirt, and plant the cattails in the dirt. I didn't realize how hard it would be to keep the sand from going everywhere once the water was in, so I spent a couple of hours yesterday just fixing the slope.
I think I've got it figured out now, but the water is murky as all hell from all the shifting. I'll definitely post pics whenever it's done setting up though. Keep an eye out on the board.
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>>71540 should have place rocks on top of the pots to minimize dirt spreading and stability. how many fish did you put in there.
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>>71546 I have a shitload of mosquito fish in there helping me cycle the tank. They'll be feeder fish until I get my worm bin started.
Other than that, nothing yet. Going to catch the bluegill tomorrow and the catfish are probably shipping next week.
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>>70396 You could easily do something like this with a tin roof and hay bale and a soil backing with solar gain from the south in winter. A lot of people make cold frames out of a layer of plastic and pvc pipe or wood making a simple frame. It just depends if you are trying to grow key lime or kale. There was a video on youtube of a pit greenhouse...
http://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/build-underground-greenhouse-garden-year-round.html http://coloradotransitionnetwork.org/profiles/blogs/underground-greenhouse You could easily have a double thin sheet plastic roof, with poly plastic as another layer under it.
It really just depends how cold it is also
>that feel when zone 9b and can almost grow tropicals GLOBAL WARMING PLS HABBEN
we need some climate zone that feel images
The foliage on my bananas made it well into late january, and were only defoliated for 2 weeks before it was warm enough for there to be new green growth. I hope they bear again this year
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>>70396 >>70396 Also, old salvaged glass means risk of old lead paint, Im kinda paranoid about such matters. Even these pseudo weed growing cold hoops are a better choice.
The chance is small, but you dont want to turn yourself into a retard.
http://1.bp . b l o g spt com/-K3NEe7fwRUk/TaNar-ccWEI/AAAAAAAAADc/76Vg7tgVhng/s1600/IMG_5493.JPG
A lot of people make pseudo cold frame thingeys out of these. Also, you could use compost's warming ability to warm up a frame. I know some people do that. I would go with the pit greenhouse or small plastic cold frames though.
Mootles is being a jew about me linking to b-logspot, but you can tell the idea.
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>>70917 http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=126280 Basically you just mulch, the mulch becomes the new starter layer of soil. Lay it deep, you can aks neighbors for their leaves when they rake their yards. Pine is fine too. Also, plant marigolds for pest control whatever you grow. Yoh can google around morw for ruth stout and her growing method. There are a lot of easy places to get mulch, both from your yard and the yards of others. A lot of cities will dump debris and swept leaves to your yard if you call the waste management dept. Just have em dump em next to your driveway. A lot of horse/equestrian centers have oodles of horse poo. Cover with tarp for six months, then you ha e almost perfect soil. They will let you take it away for free usually.
>>70412 >>70412 Freeze the greens, and plant more fruit trees and vines. Kiwi grows in temperate and subtropical areas. It is also really fun and very prolific
Last few post were mine, signing off for the night. Lovwd thw thread.
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>>71531 I concur, does anyone else have an aquaponics set up? Some of my relatives have made a buisness out of it and farming in general, but I've always been worried about killing the fish if I did something wrong.
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To whomever was discussing growing tobacco.
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I am going to try container gardening this year. We tried raised beds last year but it was just not right for us, maybe we'll try again later. We're re-purposing the beds into chicken runs.
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
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>>71434 >10 plants >9 ears And that's precisely why I don't like growing corn. Cool setup though, I might grow some decorative colored ears that way.
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>>71808 any container will work, just drill holes.
>compost pile I like you dedication, have you tried using Rock Dust to add to your soil? Azomite or Glacial Rock Dust will do, i've seen increase growth and yield with them.
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First time trying to grow a garden here.
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>>72023 Your plants are being eaten. That's nature. Theres many things you can spray on them , i recommend NEEM OIL, organic and natural. Acts as a repellent, pesticide, and makes plant foliage shine. can probably pick up a small concentrate bottle in any hydroponic store for 9-15 bucks.
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>>72023 Planting marigolds will repel any bug also..
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I've never bought seeds online before and there's shit ton of website to choose from. Can anyone share their experiences, or recommend a good site?
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>>72023 Check the soil temps. The soil needs to be at least 65° F/18.3C to plant peppers in it. Otherwise, it'll stunt their growth and cause all sorts of problems.
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>>72132 Yea, we did have a cool front come in like a week ago. Tonight it's supposed to get down to the 50s and probably be raining. I'm hoping after this week it will start staying above the 60s and 70s for good. SE Texas here by the way.
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>>72115 Are you located in the US?
I recommend:
-Veggie seeds-
Seed Savers Exchange
Baker Creek Heirlooms
Cooks Garden
Renee's Garden
Potato Garden
Cross Country Nurseries
Totally Tomatoes
-herbs-
Richter's herbs
-flowers-
Oaks day lilies
Michigan Bulb
-equipment-
Territorial Seed Co
Premier 1
Johnny's Select Seeds
-fruit-
Burpee (yes really)
Stark Bro's
Raintree
-my papaw's favorites-
Henry Fields
Gurneys
Burgess
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>>72136 Put black plastic around the plants to help keep the soil warm. They love humidity too. So, if there is a way to cover them and still let light in you can up the humidity. The warmer and more humid they are kept the hotter the peppers will be, fyi.
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>>72146 this, black plastic is great to keep soil moist and a humid area, also helps prevent some insects from infecting your soil. My recommendation is to create a trellis on the side near the wall and plant vine greens on their, cucumber, pumpkin, squash, grapes, tomatoes...
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>>70968 >>70917 >>70895 thank you for your response.
I actually have another section of my backyard which isnt completely fucked with gravel. I will probably attempt to build some raised beds out of pallets. Home depot is actually having a pretty sweet sale right now and you guys should check it out. I dont know the deal of links here so you guys should just gogle "spring black friday". It expires 4.10.
I have some pretty large slate pieces too which would probably make a pretty walkway. I will try to post back pics. It will be a couple days later but I'll make a new thread if this one isnt up still.
Thanks again for the tips
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>>72139 >shit ton Yes! Thank you
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>>72249 another question about raised beds.
I was originally planning on:
1.making sure location for raised bed was flat
2.put down raised bed directly on top of existing soil
3. fill raised bed with new soil
Should i keep the soil underneath? Or just dig it out and dump in new soil? Its too much for me to recondition all the soil in my backyard, but if its worth it, Im willing to recondition certain patches of it.
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>>72261 hassle free method is to place cardboard ontop of your old soil and place the raised beds there. This way it stops the weeds from your old soil from growing into your raised beds while also allowing water to pass through.
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Gardens are really struggling right now here in Scotland. I work as a gardener and theres just no growth in anything right now. Even the daffydills havent come out yet
ILikePlantsMoreThanPeople
My spinach seedlings propped up their cotyledons this week. They're always the first crop of the season, which I consider officially opened by their appearance. We experienced the coldest March since the start of the climatic measurements over here. Nightly temperatures dropped to -15°C (5°F) only two weeks ago, so I wasn't expecting them yet.
Pic related; the first two are from March 10, the last one from today.
>>70396 I remember this gif, from when /ck/ was still the place to be for gardening threads. Aren't you also the guy with the CSI-garden and long elongated raised beds out of concrete blocks, who spends a week canning at the end of every growing season? A hat tip to you either way. I appreciate progress pics or gifs.
>>71808 >do you think anyone would be willing to just come dump their extras here for free? Around here it's rather easy to come by horse manure for free. Most horse owners don't engage in agricultural activities on a large enough scale to use up their own. They do expect you to take care of logistics yourself however. I myself don't have a truck either, but my car does have a tow hitch. The farm were I get my manure lets me use their utility trailer for free. 'Young' gardeners get a lot of sympathy around here; I play(ed) that card a lot.
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>>72351 you can easily ask them just to put the poo towards the edge of their property, and then just go there and line your trunk with a tarp and shovel away.
Also, tot eh guy who has low fertility in his soil, you can just do no till mulch gardening.
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>>72351 >knotted-willow-anon Old friend. I awaited your arrival. Welcome to /out/.
>old pic of last year's garden Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
Updated shot of my pepper seedlings. The ghost peppers are finally, after two weeks, peeking their heads through the peat. Everything else is looking good after lifting the plastic cover a bit to give them some vertical growing room (but keeping it low enough to where my cat can't stick his head in and eat them)
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>>72261 There was an excellent soilmending thread on here a week ago. I simply kept the soil underneath mine and filled the beds with soil from another spot in my garden. It was almost completely lacking in nutrients and very sandy, but I mended it successfully with mostly homemade compost and only a few artificial additives over the course of a few years. I'm fairly confident it can be done in a couple of months time though; I had severe time constraints at the time. The added pic is related and was also posted by me in the mentioned thread; I planted blackberries last fall. From right to left you can see what my soil looks like at a depth of 30cm (1ft) and lower, my equally worthless topsoil, and soil from a mended part of the garden which I used to fill the hole I dug for the plant. The contrast is clear. With some dedication and proper googling/knowledge, it isn't all that hard.
I did have the unfair advantage of weekly access to a lab to check and confirm my progress in the beginning, but in hindsight this was an unnecessary luxury. Adding proper compost and using simple pH- and salinity-tests that you can buy in every self-respecting gardening store would have sufficed.
>>72422 I am pleased to see the remembering is mutual, and that you're at it again for yet another season. I look forward to this year's pictures!
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>>72513 >Kraft Mac and Cheese >New Oxford Bible >D&D >Dynamical Systems This is surprisingly interesting.
>>72573 I suppose. I'm studying to be a mathematician, and I figure I should know something about my faith as well. And D&D is just fun.
Polite sage for being not gardening related.
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Anything a man in a apartment can do?
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>>72557 As soon as my camera is up and ready I'll be posting projects pics once more. Maybe even some dinners on /ck/ for old time sake. lol
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>>72611 Yes.
It depends a lot on you apartment and windows. If you are lucky to have a large south-facing window in the Northern hemisphere (or north-facing in the Southern hemisphere) then you'll be able to grow a decent variety of vegetable plants. If you don't have as good direct sunlight or >4 hours of direct sunlight then you may need to use a reflector system or rather expensive grow lights.
Regardless, in an apartment, even one without windows, you can make your own compost, raise your own chickens and fish, brew up your own methane gas and high nitrogen fertilizer with a biogas generator, and grow enough vegetables to feed a family of 4. It all depends on your space, your budget, your worth ethic, and your dietary needs.
Basically, you need to start with what you eat now and what you want to eat. Research the vegetables in the recipes you use or the food you buy. Those will what you will want to grow in order to make the dishes you eat now.
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Anyone have some solid gardening infographics?
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>>72632 >3-sisters method of gardening/companion planting done in a bucket. Google "3-sisters method".
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>>70989 >2 datura seeds >you need at least 100 of them for drug to take effect Anonymous
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>>72647 >need at least 100 of them for drug to take effect datura is well known for being inconsistent in concentration of psychotropic alkaloids. it's entirely possible that 2 seeds from one plant could have the same effect at 100 seeds from another
that's part of what makes datura such a poor choice as a drug
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>>72647 Actually a starting dosage is 10, not 100. However, the amount of toxin in the seeds is random. So, you may get too much from one plant yet not enough from another plant. He also ate the seeds and didn't just make a tea from what I heard, though that is all I know of what was done or not done.
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Is it usually a poor choice to grow vegetables on the native soil next to old buildings due to lead paint?
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>>72282 As I mentioned (
>>72351 ) I'm suffering from the same problem, though I can imagine it being worse over there in Scotland. (I'm from Belgium)
I planted literally hundreds of bulbous flowers last fall. They started to come up when temperatures rose for a few weeks in February before plummeting far below freezing again. They handled it way better than I expected and slowly keep on growing, but the damage is evident. I hope I still get to admire some flower patches, I spent an entire afternoon on my knees planting bulbs for it.
Pic related
>>72592 This piques my interest. My father also is/was a religious mathematician, which I find/found to be a hard to understand combination. He himself also seems to struggle with his earlier convictions as he has been delving into the sciences since his retirement. Is your interest from a cultural perspective, or do you truly consider yourself religious if I may respectfully ask?
To keep it gardening related; depending on which translation you prefer, Leviticus seems to have some problems with companion planting, 'mixing seeds' or 'planting different crops in the same field' to be more precise.
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>>72613 I have a jelly. These moments make it all worth it.
Pic, again, related.
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>>72613 What's that in the husk on the plate on the far right?
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>>72766 looks like sweet-potato. Sometimes called "Yam", even though this is actually wrong.
Backed, then broiled
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>>72789 Looks fucking delicious.
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>>72766 Yes, it is a sweet potato, (Ipomea batatas).
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Brought this on-line in The Hill Country this week.
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>>72756 INFINITE JELLY
I wish I had a backyard to have a garden plus sunflowers and a hammock to chill in
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>>72957 looking good.
What do you have in mind for irrigation?
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I have a question guys, Is moss generally a bad thing on fences, brick walls and walkways? Or is it "good" in terms of promoting healthier plant life, less pests and what not?
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>>72957 looks good, are you doing the Square Foot Gardening Method?
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>>73018 depends how much moss, what kind, and on what it grows.
natural stone walls: moss does not matter at all.
brick: a little is fine and attractive, a lot can cause increased humidity on the other side.
wood: if it is treated mass should not grow (very well) if it is untreated and a lot of moss it can be a problem by trapping moisture and making the wood rot.
the main thing you need to look out for is the surrounding.
Is there a lot of moss on stuff around you? then it is normal and would be had to avoid.
Is there high humidity and low temperatures (45f' -/+10)? then moss can grow rapidly.
it is the environmental factors that that is bad for building materials. dampness will make wood rot, the moss is a symptom that you have moisture.
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
>>72685 Yes - lead tends to leach into soil and you don't wanna be eating that. I would suggest doing raised beds with untainted soil.
>>72756 I am amazingly jelly. I had big sunflowers like that, but my backyard lacks big trees and the shadow cast by the shed is on a slope.
As far as being a religious scientist goes - to me, it's about doing our best to learn about creation. To understand the universe is to, in a way, understand God better, and we get to make life better for people while we're here as well. I've never found religion and science to be mutually exclusive, they just answer different questions about the world. I remember a lecture when I took a Hebrew Scripture course as an elective where the professor told us that the Leviticus stuff likely came up culturally due to tribes often cutting their crops or fabrics with cheap, inferior materials and trying to pass it off as the more expensive thing, which honestly makes a lot of sense since the Bible is by and large a product of its cultural times. So yeah, I'd say I'm interested fairly equally in both cultural and religious respects.
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Does anyone here grow mint? I need to know when to plant it and how to plant it indoors, so if anyone has that information it would be greatly appreciated if you could tell me. I've googled but I really just wish I could have some first-hand advice. Thanks.
Anonymous
>>73128 After last chance of frost for your area.
Plant it in shade. It will start to take over in a few years.
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>>73132 Is it possible to plant it indoors? And also, it doesn't ever frost here so I have no sort of guidelines. Would April 4th be good..?
Anonymous
>>73128 Mint can grow like wildfire and take over if the environment is fine for it.
>>73134 If you have the mint plants indoors you should harden them off before exposing them to outside temperatures. This can take 1-2 weeks and can be as simple as placing them in an unheated garage or outside and covered.
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>>73145 Is it possible to never put them outside? I would hate to do that because of the whole issue with keeping them from invading and killing everything.
Can you tell I'm a gardening newbie? I'm only interested in doing it for tea purposes.
Anonymous
>>72351 I live on a dairy farm and it isn't uncommon for us to sell a whole truckload of manure for like 20 bucks or so
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>>73150 Yes, you can grow them inside if they get enough light.
Mint normally doesn't kill things out. It merely grows fast in the right conditions. You can manage it by weeding it out of where you don't want it. In doing so, you'll get lots of fresh herbal for drying to make teas.
At one time I was growing 7 different types of mint. Now I'm down to about 2 I think, due to massive landscaping changes.
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>>73157 Thanks. So, backyard planting then?
How should I go about planting it? Should I just waltz out into my yard, dig some 1in deep holes and plop a single seed in?
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>>73150 >>73174 My 2 cents next to the advice of the other helpful anons is to put it in a large pot or container with the bottom cut out. I simply put some compost or gardening soil in the hole when planting and topdress compost the following years. Older picture related; some lemon mint in a buried pot without a bottom. It makes it easier to control; you only have to worry about the runners you see, not the ones beneath the soil.
>>73156 I can imagine since having seen the wonders it can work in a garden. Over here spreading out manure and fertilization in general is heavily regulated throughout the country though, and even more in my area to preserve the high quality of our water table. It gets pumped up for usage as potable water and bottling a few km down the road. If one keeps livestock, one has to have a corresponding amount of land to spread the manure on. This results in many people having 'illegitimate livestock' and an excess of 'off the books manure' they need to get rid of. Free poo for me.
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>>72963 >>73094 Thanks for the compliment! I only ever planted sunflowers the first year I actively gardened that small patch. They have been showing up by themselves ever since. I only transplant the seedlings I find. They keep the bees visiting my garden throughout the summer and their heads full of seeds keep the birds happy throughout the winter.
In my humble opinion, the view from my hammock and garden is also one to be jealous about, though it is gone once the corn gets too big. Pic related.
>>73094 >As far as being a religious scientist goes.. That's a respectable answer. I'm a chemist and find it to be a very touchy subject among fellow scientists. Though I consider myself to be agnostic and not religious at all, I come from a devout catholic family. Bible study and corresponding discussions were mandatory.
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>>73174 mint "can" be grown from seed, but the germination rate and initial grow can be an issue.
Buy a small plant at home-depot or a nursery. It about 3-5$ and you already have a plant, i would not bother with seeds. Once you have one plant you can make as many as you want.
Put it in a pot at least 2x the size of the container it came in. That way it has enough room to grow and you can bring it in when/if there is a hard freeze (below 30f). Something the diameter of a 5gal bucked is good. It should have one or more holes at the bottom for drainage, otherwise the roots will start to rot. If you put it inside you can stand it on a small plate of inside another 'decorative' pot.
You can use a 'self-watering' window box. you still need to water, but only every few days or so, the. Google it, they work well.
Use potting soil and some fertilizer. potted plants need regular fertilizing, about every 10 days. stay away from using the soil in your garden unless it is very loamy and has enough drainage, if you do not know what that means, or how to recognize it (i didn't when i stared), buy some potting soil.
Water it at least once a day for normal containers, but more is better, mint loves water. the soil should be moist nearly all the time, but never soggy.
Anonymous
>>73570 Contaiing the roots with a in-ground boarder will for for mint, but you need to keep the plant from falling over onto the ground around it. It readily takes root at every leaf joint when it comes in contact with soil or even high humidity.
Anonymous
I picked up a patio picker last week but haven't planted anything yet. Not sure what I'm going to put in there.
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>>73769 i have one of those, its a good container IMO.
this was last weeks picture
>>71030 And i just took this picture right now.
>pic related. Anonymous
anyone ever deal with Fungus Gnats? dont want to use chemicals
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>>72139 territorial is good.
I've heard bad things about stark bros.
Seeds of change has neat heirlooms and organic, if you're into that.
Also, trees of antiquity has hundreds of ultra rare/heritage tree and fruit cultivars that aren't common, like black republican cherries, or black arkansas apples. Both are special treats, and they have cultivars that don't transport/store well, so unless you grow them, it is pretty much the only way to taste those fruits.
Pretty neat.
Anonymous
>>73930 indoors or outdoors?
Outdoors,plant marigolds, water less, mulch more, they have little sticky traps if they're like seedlings, and there are insects like ladybugs that eat fungus gnats that you can release.
Fungus gnats are the worst.
I fucking hate them, they're so small and hard to get rid of,
Anonymous
>>73963 outdoor patio. went to check out my containers today and saw a shit load of gnats on the soil, atleast i think theyre gnats, theyre small like 'flies' on the top of the soil.
Anonymous
>>73982 just read online that Sand works well, going to take a trip to the beach and take a few bags of it. haha
ILikePlantsMoreThanPeople
>>73963 These are great preventative measures imho, but in my experience rarely stop an already established gnat infection.
>>73982 >>73930 There is no end to my hate for fungus gnats. Chemicals are your friend though, you just have to know which to use when and avoid the gross over-usage that seems to be the standard nowadays.
I advise a pyrethrin-based insecticide. These are plantbased and completely biodegradable. Google up on them; I found them interesting enough to write my master thesis about them. Depending on your growing conditions they decompose in a few days or a week. This might necessitate multiple applications though. Over here it can be found in most gardening stores; they often get marketed as 'bio-insecticide'; check the label or packaging.
Anonymous
>>74041 pyrecthin or whatever is great. what I had to use when I had fungus gnats.
The worst part is that they are annoying to humans as well, there are really prolific when they get started.
My suggestions about less water and whatnot just stops it from getting worse, not as something to get rid of them as a cure all. It just stops them from getting more infested or whatever. Fung. gnats are the most annoying things when you're out in the garden and they fly slowly onto/around you.
I'm mad even thinking about them.
A lot of garden stores are totally infested. Like, every bag of soil has gnats, as well as all/most seedlings
>home depot, looking at u m8 ILikePlantsMoreThanPeople
I mined some black gold today. I ended up with a surplus for the first time since I started gardening, so I had a go at sieving it for easier handling and storage. I liked the result a lot, but the increase in quality didn't justify all the extra effort that went into it. I probably won't be doing it again. Pic related.
>>74036 This should work too, indeed. I haven't tried this method myself yet, so I can't attest to its effectiveness. If you use beach sand, I'd like to suggest rinsing it to get rid of the residual salt.
>>73619 I am aware of this, but thanks for pointing it out anyway. Falling over isn't the biggest risk; mint tends to send out stolons, or 'runners' as they are more commonly called in English, as a means for vegetative propagation. Two of these can be seen on my earlier photo, creeping over the edge.
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>>74057 i probably brought them from home depot too.
Anonymous
>>70420 Don't plant mint if you want the space for more than that. Mint spreads really quickly and it's hard to get out.
Anonymous
just got back from the beach with bags full of sand, going to sift it first then place on top of containers, will post pics after being done.
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>>74257 BEACH????? As in "beach at the ocean"???
That stuff has WAY salt! you will ruin your soil for years if you put that in your beds! Even in containers it might leach out the bottom and make mess up your soil!!
Texas dude
>>74257 BEACH????? As in "beach at the ocean"???
That stuff has WAY salt! you will ruin your soil for years if you put that in your beds! Even in containers it might leach out the bottom and make mess up your soil!!
>>74069 Looks like good compost. I sieve mine too. the fasted way I found is a frame made of 2x4s with some chicken-wire stapled on top.
The whole thing sits right on my wheelbarrow. when the screen gets filled with too much big stuff i shake it a little and toss the rest in my second compost bin. When the wheelbarrow is full i cart it right to my beds.
this saves me the trouble of shoveling the whole mess twice.
I fond that it is worth the effort my carrots and sweet-taters grow a lot better when the soil is loose.
Your mileage may vary; my native soil is mainly red clay. High in minerals, and holds the water well; BUT it gets harder then concrete when dry and does not soak up water very well. If i don't add a bunch of compost, sand and occasionally peat moss I can barely grow anything.
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>>74257 If the sand is from a salt water beach then you can't use it on your plants or it will kill them.
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>>74454 >>74471 Haha yeah, it was free sand. Well i wont be watering the plants, going to dip em a bucket and let them wick up from the bottom. Good news is that i dont see any gnats.
Anonymous
>>70498 that's funny, I was gonna say carrots, greens, and beets are the easiest stuff to grow. It's odd how everybody seems to have different weaknesses. I can't grow eggplant for some reason. Taters, maters, and any other eggplant relative, sure--but eggplants fucking hate me.
Anonymous
I just put my little potted plants out on the deck (finally warm enough) but the wind is gusting like a motherfucker and I'm afraid they're all gonna snap...
Anonymous
>>72139 i fucking hate Gurneys. It's all weird cultivars.
>Look everybody! Glow in the dark pumpkins and potatoes that make blue french fries! I feel like I'm going through a Bioshock plasmid catalogue when I read that stuff. Personally, I like raintree nursery's website.
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>>74535 I've never tried eggplant personally, since I don't really care for it as a vegetable. I agree that greens and beats are easy, as are tubers and leeks and other root veggies. Carrots just absolutely elude me for some reason, though.
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>>74536 Bring 'em inside m8, not worth getting them killed
Anonymous
>>74538 Am I some kind of heretic because I'm going to be growing purple potatoes this year?
Anonymous
>>75010 Don't listen to him. He exhibits signs of xenophobia and seems afraid of different things. He's most likely autistic. DON'T TOUCH HIS EARS.
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English weather has been awful for a second year running, most of my seedlings desperately need to go out but we keep getting heavy frosts as I'm quite far north. It's so annoying just give me some sun now.
Anonymous
>>72513 Seedlings look pretty leggy, bro. How are you handle that?
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>>75077 theyre stretching for light, he should lower the light closer, and wooden shish kabob sticks are a cheap way to straighten them.
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>>75077 I did move the light closer when I noticed they were getting too leggy. Gonna transplant them next weekend into bigger pots and just bury them deeper. I'm not too concerned, just means a better root system.
>>75165 (I've never started seed indoors before this year, so it took me a bit too long to realize that tall seedlings generally aren't a good thing. If they die, hey, I know what not to do next time.
Anonymous
>>75168 recommend getting an adjustable T5 grow light.
They're cheap and great for starting indoors, you can raise/lower them too.
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>>75168 Stronger light or perhaps in this case light closer to the plant help, but also a fan helps. The agitation on the plant from a fan helps strengthen their stems. Use a light breeze.
Anonymous
So yesterday I started a raised bed for the first time but I doe goofed with the dirt and ended up putting in a bunch of fine dark wood chips. The ratio is about 2:1 wood chips to dirt. Will my plants be OK or should I dig em out and replace with more actual soil?
Anonymous
>>75191 You will need to add an additional nitrogen source to it, because the bacteria that consume the wood chips use it up a lot. Other than that, it should be fine so long as the water and nutrient needs are met.
Anonymous
>>75191 i usually go for 2:1:1, soil, wood chip, peat moss. They will grow, but it would be best to add more dirt.
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>>75197 >>75202 Alright thanks guys. It's my first time doing raised beds and I wasn't paying enough attention when I was out buying and adding the soil.
Anonymous
I was hoping by now /out/ would have a gardening sticky with resources and links.
Anonymous
>>75219 well thats the thing, depending on where you are growing, in what, and what you're growing, the answer will be different. I live in an apartment and growing in 5 gallon containers and 4ft by 4ft raised beds. Each season i experiment with different soil combinations (mixing potting mix, with soils, and adding rocks dust, beneficial bateria, and different organic fertilizers). I try to grow the same things in different soils to see the difference. Basically what works with one person might not work with another, its trial and error and experimenting.
Anonymous
>>75231 Forgot to say that I know nothing of gardening.I've never heard of adding bacteria to dirt or rock dust, I gotta go look this up.
Anonymous
>>75235 Beneficial bacteria have symbiotic relationship with plants roots, they proliferate in roots and help the plants roots absorb nutrients from the soil which in turn makes the plant grow better.
Rock dust, such as azomyte or glacial rock dust contain 60+ trace minerals which is great for soil. Think of a person, sure you can live by eating only water and bread, but will you be healthy? you'll notice in most soil all they will list is there N.P.K value (nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium), but plants will grow better with extra minerals.
you should grow in tiers to get experience. Like in one season grow with store dirt/soil, next season, store dirt/soil and fertilizer. next season, store dirt/soil and organic fertilizer. After that, compost/soil and organice fertilzer. and so on and so on. Plants will grow and some will die, but its the experience that makes it worth it IMO.
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I got everything i need ready outside
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>>75235 Beneficial yeasts/fungi are normally the biggest thing you can add to your soil. I suspect that
>>75231 /
>>75257 may be referring to this instead. The description given is exactly the same.
http://fungi.com/shop/fungi-for-healthy-gardens-and-garden-supplies.html Anonymous
>>75300 mycorrhizae and trichoderma
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>>75165 >>75168 I'd like to point out that the general rule is that the stem will rot away when it gets covered by soil by transplanting too deep. I know burying the stem can be done with potatoes and tomatoes among others, and they'll just grow roots from it. I'm not quite sure peppers are part of this group of exceptions due to lack of experience with this crop, but google suggests they are.
I've been using fluorescents for years to keep my seedlings happy, like this anon
>>75182 suggested, and too have noticed they need to be very close to the plants. It's rather common knowledge among indoor growers. Terms like 'grow lights' are nothing more than silly marketing in my humble opinion; just make sure you have a healthy mix of different 'temperature' fluorescent lights if you plan on long term indoor growing. When germinating and growing seedlings for transplanting outdoor I only use the cheapest cold fluorescents I can find without having encountered any problems, ever.
Pic related; a 2 year old picture of the setup I still use to this day. Has been posted before.
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
>>75679 Yeah, my precursory googling of the topic suggests that peppers act similarly to tomatoes when transplanted a bit deep. We'll see, I suppose.
ILikePlantsMoreThanPeople
I expanded my blackberry patch today and added a raspberry plant. I never grew these before, so feel free to give me some pointers if somebody here has noteworthy experience with them. I suppose their cultivation is not that different from blackberries.
I also planted strawberries in between, a cultivar I've never grown before. (The name escapes me at the moment.) I don't seem to be capable of visiting a gardening store and only buying what I intended to or need. Pic related, the cat scrotum is an extra for your amusement.
>>72957 Looks neat and very organised, something I consistently fail to be when it comes to gardening. May I ask what's the reason behind the rather high fence? Agile wildlife ?
>>75696 >We'll see, I suppose. Still the best way to gather experience and knowledge imho; trial and error. I share your attitude.
Anonymous
>tfw not a lot of land for a proper garden
Anonymous
I have a dumb question about carrot seedlings.
Anonymous
Nearly finished planting for this season. It has been unusually cold in our location, which is why I have put off sowing/planting for so long
Anonymous
>>75018 i lol'd. but seriously I don't like all these weird hybrid shit varieties. For one you can't save the seeds and for two they never taste as good as the old school varieties. heirlooms taste good. new stuff is just funny colors or resists some blight I've never seen or had to worry about.
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>>76295 Plant them. If they dont' work then ditch them.
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>>76359 Some are good and some are mediocre, just like the heirlooms. You can save the seeds, it just means the plant will be like one of the parents of the original hybrid. Which you can use to cross and make your own hybrid if you want.
Anonymous
>>76305 Did you start your onions indoors?
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>>76374 Nope. I bought them in bundles of plants ($2 for about 30-40 plants) at a farm/ranch supplier in town. Usually works pretty well.
Anonymous
Planted this two months and one week ago.
Anonymous
>>76258 >proper garden. man, thats a lot of room to grow things. Look into square foot gardening, and you can built trellis near the brick wall to grow upwards.
Anonymous
>>76755 looks good man, i love pepper plants, their foliage is smooth and feels good to the touch.
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>>75799 They're going to make crosses very readily. Just be ready for that.
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>>76258 >>76844 Indeed. Scarlet runner beans are pretty, attract hummingbirds, and save you a lot of space. You could also grow many types of kiwi on a trellis, vine-type tomatoes, or cucumbers, without sacrificing much of that space.
Anonymous
I've recently gotten into gardening. The most I've done is some simple hydroponics and some potted plants but unfortunately I can't expand, even though I really really want to, because I'm moving from Florida to Pennsylvania soon.
Anonymous
>>76934 The best advice I can give is look up the zipcode where you're living and you can go to
HGTV.com and look up plans based on what they do (like trees vs fruit trees), and other factors to see what will grow best in your area. Also if you're living in a rural area, take a drive and look at what your neighbors have/grow in their yards. If it can be easily grown, someone is growing it, and if it can't it won't be there.
Totally had to learn that the hard way with my Japanese Cherry Trees...
Anonymous
>>76946 The problem with HGTV is that they list no edible plants as well. I'm really only looking into edible or companion plants for my edible plants.
Anonymous
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How does one deal with aphids
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>>77260 Get beneficial insects to eat them. Plant stuff that attracts the aphids away and stuff to attract beneficial insects.
Anonymous
SoCalfag here, It's early April. Is it too late to start planting? Because if not, I have to make more space.
Anonymous
>>77749 Also extending on this information, I would like to grow some berries, is it possible/recommended at my climate and time?
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>>77757 >>77749 Go ahead. you have a long growing season. As for berries, they aren't a seasonal plant, they stick around year after year. So, get those planted ASAP.
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>>76845 Absolutely.
Beautiful plants to have inside too.
Anonymous
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I'm trying to grow a whole bunch of chili, japaneo, habanero and cayenne peppers.
Anonymous
I know mint has been discussed already, I just wanted to add my two cents.
Anonymous
>>78323 When my mint patch was in full swing, I had,
Mountain mint (Pycnanthemum virginianum)
Spearmint (Mentha spicata)
Peppermint (Mentha balsamea)
Lemon mint (Monarda citriodora)
Horse mint (Monarda didyma)
Wild bergamot (Monarda fistulosa)
Catnip (Nepeta cataria)
Water Mint (Mentha aquatica)
>Chocolate Isn't that just peppermint? Nurseries around here call it chocolate mint because it smells like Andes Chocolate Mints. Nursery names cause me pain because they are so commercialized. Half the nurseries here don't even have the scientific names, so you have to do a bit of taxonomy to make sure what they are selling is what the tag reads.
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>>78336 I believe you can get the scientific name off their ordering list. Ask to see that. My aquarium shop did that for me.
Anonymous
>>78336 >Chocolate >Isn't that just peppermint? Nurseries around here call it chocolate mint because it smells like Andes Chocolate Mints. No. Chocolate mint is a seperate cultivar. I have gotten chocolate mint from different sources over the years, but the chocolate mint from Richters is vastly superior.
Anonymous
>>78355 >No. Chocolate mint is a seperate cultivar. I Nope. It is just marketing lies. Peppermint is just a hybrid mint.
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LA balcony grower here.
Anonymous
>>78372 peppermint is indeed a hybrid, mentha x piperita, of which there are many cultivars.
do you deny that cultivars have differing characteristics, or is it just the 'chocolate mint'?
Anonymous
>>78387 It isn't a different cultivar.
Anonymous
>>78389 Because you say it isn't? Cursory searches tell me that's it's widely recognized.
Really, I'm genuinely curious about your apparent vendetta against this plant.
Anonymous
I've had both peppermint and chocolate mint. If they're identical it's news to me.
Anonymous
>>78406 >>78416 I have both and they are identical.
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>>78429 So what you meant to say was, "I was given a mislabeled peppermint specimen."
Because that's the logical conclusion here -- and not to dismiss an entire variety of plant based on an anecdote.
Anonymous
Here is a comparison of Ky colonial mint (which is a spearmint) on the left and chocolate mint on the right. They are clearly not the same, even when the plants are just starting to wake up and put out new growth.
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>>78449 *grumble* got dang iPad!
For clarity, the choco mint is the darker of the two.
Anonymous
Hey guys im really thinking about gardening for food and I wanna know what are some easy to grow, that are essential foods that I can grow in my small back yard? Also should I worry about cats if I garden in the front?
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>>78456 Tomatoes and peppers are great for beginners.
Anonymous
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>>78456 I was almost dissuaded from gardening entirely when I tried to grow carrots and radishes one year and none of them bulbed out, despite doing everything perfectly. So I would say don't go for root vegetables your first year. It's tremendously disappointing if it doesn't work out. At least with bigger plants if they don't fruit you still feel like you accomplished something by growing a big plant. So yeah, tomatoes and peppers. :)
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Pink candy pops mint. It has a very interesting Pom-Pom like flowers, unlike regular mint which tends to send up flowering spikes.
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I just planted a grape fruit tree and a navel orange tree in my yard about a week ago, the pH in the soil is neutral (around 7)
Ranger !KIoAn5GoCQ
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>>76258 It's me again /out/. I have removed the sugarcane that was to the left of the pic in my last post. I have effectively almost doubled the amount of space against the wall. Any suggestions/tips on what and how to grow in my new space?
Anonymous
>>79157 Where do you live?
BadVoodoo
Not sure if I "qualify" as a gardener.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>79181 Well lucky you lol. I hear gardening there is amazing.
Anyways, if it's your first time try out some tomatoes and peppers once it warms up.
Anonymous
>>79186 Whelp if you say that I may be in over my head. Currently I'm trying to grow: radish, tomato, lettuce, pak choy, cucumber, carrot, watermelon, green onion, peppers, and maybe a couple things I thought failed but resurrected weeks later.
Anonymous
>>79189 lol, no way. Just have fun, you're going to mess up but it's best just to try out whatever you can think of. I just suggested tomatoes and peppers because they're hard to fuck up.
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>>79192 There's no way I can fuck up millions of years of plant evolution. R-right?
Mayor Jim Suttle !OMAHa/k25s
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>>79168 Aww shit son! I look forward to hearing your reports in the future.
>>70932 >>70932 Whats a geurilla gardener?
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>>79278 Guerrilla gardening is when a person or group of people rapidly prepare an area of public land into a garden. Like roadside areas of barren soil being turned into a patch of flowers overnight or sprouting vegetables.
Anonymous
Anyone have any advice on Neem Oil? Looks like the tomatoes I bought from homedepot are infested with aphids and little black mosquito things, probably fungus gnats.
Anonymous
Where my zone 3 and 4 bros at? We're all gonna make it ;_;
Anonymous
>>79496 It you have plants out, cover them or set a sprinkler out for the night so frost doesn't' develop on them.
Anonymous
>>70384 Any way to run the complete operation indoors.
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>>79321 when you use it use it everywhere on the plants. stems, leaves, undersides of leaves basically everywhere a bug you want dead could be
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>>79783 This
>>79815 or grow lights.
Anonymous
Currently going through a full-retard "GROW EVERYTHING." period right now. Starting far more plants than I can handle in a zone where I likely won't be able to handle them in the first place. Dwarf coffee, dwarf pomegranate, dragonfruit cacti, pineapple plants, etc. So much shit. Well, at least I'm set when it comes to getting people gifts.
Anonymous
>>80038 thats called the grow fever. And its a good thing IMO, this way you can see what grows best in your area and what dies. One piece of advice is that you should look into your plants Light needs and set them up in your yard according to the sun. Example, if one of your plant doesn't need much light, set it up in a place where it gets minimal sunlight.
Anonymous
Gentlemen
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>>80059 youtube search, "Growing Your Greens" this guy lives in a suburban neighborhood but his frontyard and back yard are full of raised beds, he eats only what he grows. Anyways, he's very informative in his vids. Give it a shot.
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>>80050 I live in MA. A lot of the stuff I'm growing are going to be house plants for much of the year. I have a thing or exotics. Have 20 or so tomato plants growing right now, on the other side of things. Micro Toms and Black Krim.
Anonymous
>>80066 >"What's growing on?" Every single video. I love his video but god damn are his puns terrible. Also check out mhpgardener and Praxxus55712 both have great videos.
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>>80090 Ray is great. Follow him on both Praxxus and the VoodooGarden channels. I'm also a fan of LilFrugalGardener/4GreenEarth2 for exotics. She grows all sorts of tropical exotics up in Pennsylvania. Inspired me, actually.
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>>80093 Cool stuff I didn't know about those two channels and I'm moving to Pennsylvania so that's amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Anonymous
>>80090 Haha he has fun with he does. I enjoy the vids where he takes a stroll to random parks/wilderness and starts eating the local flora.
Thanks for the recommendations, going to spend all afternoon checking them out.
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>>80126 Oh yeah, I almost forget about that. Every place he goes he just eats shit lol. He's so weird but I love the stuff he does.
Anonymous
anyone have experience with using Compost Tea?
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>>80429 I do. Pretty easy. Fill bucket with manure, top it off with water. Let it set for x amount of time; time dependent on the type of manure and how well aged it may already be. Pour this water on your plants.
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>>79776 I only just got started working the ground this week thanks to snow finally melting and the ground thawing. It'll be a while before I can plant anything. Hopefully I can get a few things out before May, but I'm not holding my breath.
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So, I live at a rental in zone 6a. The yard has two big oak trees in the back, and a small tree in the front (can't remember what it is off the top of my head, never go in the front). We have sparse grass (growing the best next to the base of the oaks, on the sides of the house, and in the front), and TON of dandelions. I don't want to spend a bunch of money/time on the property and possibly piss off my landlady, but should I just dig up the soil where the dandelions are? It would cover most of the yard, but I could just keep digging it up until grass settled in there. And should I give the grass some coffee grounds or something? Should I not cut it so it can seed itself?
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>>80802 Also our soil has some big, soccer-ball sized flint rocks in it.
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>>80802 Dandelions grow a pretty deep taproot, it'll take a fair amount to kill them.
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>>80802 >>81185 >kill dandelions Dear god, no.
Dandelions are a vegetable and you can eat the entire plant. I like batter-dipped and fried dandelion flowers and dandelion wine. I use the roots mostly for making a coffee adulterant. A friend of mine uses the young leaves in her salads all the time. She also juices them. The dandelion plants release an elevated amount of ethylene gas which when coupled with fruit trees/bushes will help ripen them on the plant.
You can either save the seeds to plant yourself or you can transplant them to where you need them. They can grow into massive plants about 2 feet in diameter with leaves 3-4 inches wide. They can be a very pretty flower in the spring and fall. And, they can be a really nice vegetable if you learn how to use them.
My gardens all have dandelions planted in them.
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>>81361 Oh, and I forgot. If you want to dig them up, use the bulb planter tool in that pic.
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>>81369 >add orange peals No, just add the zest off the orange peal. The white pith under the orange peel can cause bitterness and increased fusel alcohols to be made. As a tip, anything green from the dandelion shouldn't be in there too since it can cause bitterness.
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Grow some fucking morning glories. The seeds have LSA in them. Sprout them in a closed jar and you never have to water them. The best jars to use are the ones that paintbrushes come in that are about a foot tall and 3-4 inches across because the leaves stick to the inside and you don't need a trellis for it. Put an inch of dirt in the bottom and put in about 5 seeds. Once they reach the top of the jar, plant them on a trellis outside. If you're in the southeast, shit grows like mad. To extract that shit from the seeds, mash them up really fine and put the powder in everclear 190 and dip your blotters in there. Then let most of it evaporate and mix the remaining stuff with flouer or some pasting agent and put it in some pills. College kids eat that shit like candy, especially if you put the powder from gas station pep pills in there with it.
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>>81361 I've always used something like this, dig way down next to the root, then angle it towards the root and it'll often make a pop noise when severed, that's okay because it'll kill them decently enough when it does that. Also they are a non-native species here so I'm kind of okay with getting rid of them. If I could I'd plant a prairie garden in my entire backyard'.
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>>81817 I was meaning to use the bulb tool to aid in transplantation, not harvesting.
They are a non-native species in most places and also are one of the most widely spread plants in all temperate climate areas of the entire world.
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Is there a guide on what to plant, when to plant, and in what region? My google-fu is weak.
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>>82020 There's various guides. Find your hardiness zone and look for a guide based on that.
http://www.garden.org/zipzone/ Anonymous
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>>82020 >what to plant Why is this ever a question?
Plant what you like to eat.
Plant what you use in your cooking.
Now a question like, "What new or unusual plants should I plant?" is a better question.
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Question about fertilizer. From my observation, they are graded by nitrogen, phosphate, and some other shit. I have something in my garage that's 28-3-3. I think it's used for lawns, is it ok for my vegetable garden. I understand N is important for cell walls but is there such thing as too much?
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>>82969 Too much can kill your plants. Too much that doesn't kill your plants can make them grow too much foliage and not fruit. You can use that fertilizer, just don't use as much as you normally would and dilute it.
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Whelp I finally got around to preparing my soil. I mimicked the kitchen garden...poorly I think. Is my setup beneficial at all?
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>>83134 You're shorter than I imagined.
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Just moved into an apartment with a tiny concrete slab behind the back sliding door. Got a nice container garden setup going.
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>>79168 How is farm life?
I always hear it's actually hell.
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>>83137 I had a good laugh.
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Is it hard to grow berries? I want to grow blueberries, goji berries, etc.
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>>83862 It's pretty easy. That reminds me. I need to check to see if my goji berry bush made it through the winter...
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>>83941 >I need to check to see if my goji berry bush made it through the winter... Well....it didn't make it. something skinned up the bark at the base really bad sometime during the winter and it is completely dead. My apple trees right next to it all survived though. All the plants are in buckets until I put them in more permanent places.
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Does anyone have experience with the Kratky method? I'm trying to use it to grow cucumbers.
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>>74214 i doubt it will spread on his balcony. i understand this as in planting in a pot.
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>>84107 Fucking good luck. Those things love to drink. I tried to grow them but for some reason they died(I think it was fertilizer burn) but I grew some lettuce in a water bottle and it worked out great.
I assume you watch mhpgardener on youtube? He has some great videos on it.
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I guess it's not entirely /out/ related, but has anyone here ever grown bonsais before? I'm thinking of trying sometime.
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>>84303 I have watched his vids, very informative. So far, the ones in a liquid solution are growing quicker than the ones I have planted in soil.
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Help me /out/, what's happening to this chili plant?
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>>84761 It's depressed. You have to sing for it.
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>>84761 I have no idea, but the only thing that ever worked for me was cutting the infected parts off ASAP
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>>84761 If it's just transplanted its roots may not be absorbing enough water to keep the leaves from wilting.
I don't think it's "infected," but cutting the leaf tips off like this fellow did
>>84804 will reduce transpiration, or water loss to the air, until the plant recovers enough to absorb as much water as it's losing.
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>>84761 Looks like sun scalding, anon. Did you set it out in full sun when it was previously indoors or did you set it into a windowed area with strong sunlight?
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I just threw together a crappy excuse for a quasi-hydroponic set up with which I'm going to try to grow a lettuce plant. I have the stuff to try again several times and still have seeds to sow outside, so this is a learning experience for me.
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>>84801 I tried that first, of course. Sadly, it didn't work. If anything, I think I made it worse.
>>84811 It's well rooted and has been in there since it was a little seedling.
>>84851 Google seems to agree. It was inside (along with other plants; other peppers and also tomatoes) in a sunny window. Although there has been a sudden jump in sunlight and temperature recently.
I'm worried, will future growth be affected, in case it/they recovers?
Interesting though. I have different peppers, tomatoes and other stuff that have approx the same age and always shared the same location.
Thanks for the replies anons.
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Hey, any guides to making your own compost tumbler?
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Just finished making a DIY Self Watering Container like the Patio Pickers.
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Anyone know what a safe distance would be for someone growing a garden next to an old building painted with lead paint?
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>>84972 It depends on water flow too.
Perhaps your answer is raised beds? Then you can control the soil 100% and be lead free.
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>>84966 Okay i couldn't wait a few days so i loaded it up with some Tomatillos, Sweat mint, Rosemary and Lavender, still have room for 2-4 more herbs/plants
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oh what gardening thread?
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Last week i had a major problem with Fungus Gnats, I didnt want to deal with them using chemicals , so i went to Lowes and bought a 50 pound bag of sand (sand for a sandbox) it was cheap only 4 bucks. I placed a 1 inch layer of sand on top of all my containers. Today is 9 days after, and i can say there is no trace of fungus gnats anywhere.
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>>85664 I remember you and your gnat problem. Thanks for letting us know how it turned out. I really appreciate updates and progress pics.
I got some new chickens for my garden yesterday. I'm pretty content with my choice of hens.
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>>85812 Woah, looks good. What do you do with the Hens? Use the Eggs for break fast? poop for fertilizer or compost? or just fatten them up to eat later?
ILikePlantsMoreThanPeople
>>85854 All of those. I got chickens when I was six (as a responsibility and a chore, not as a gift though I accepted them like one) and have had hens ever since.
I, being quite a pansy when it comes to killing animals, do let them live rather long (3-4years) before butchering them though. The previous 'generation' of chickens is currently residing in my fridge in the form of an exquisite pâté. Meat from old(er) chickens still has the same taste, but a rather unpleasant texture imho, hence no pan frying or anything like that.
Pic semi-related; I originally acquired bunnies with the intention to eat them too, but those fluffy bastards grab every chance they get to cuddle up, so I can't do it anymore.
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>>85963 My old roomate from college has white meat rabbits, they're quite large. He kills them by strangling with a cord.
But he's Chinese so he doesn't see or treat them as pets (but he treats them humanely.) And yes, they are cute, cuddly and friendly.
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>>85977 And as scary as strangling with a cord sounds, when done right it cuts off blood flow to the brain knocking the rabbit unconscious within seconds, followed by death within a few minutes.
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How do I get into starting seeds indoors? In the past, I've just been sowing directly into the ground and buying plants from hardware stores. Does it cost much to get set up?
