[26 / 1 / ?]
Greetings /out/. Today I wanted to discuss a topic that I see barely talked about, but often seen. Kit redundancy. Now, basically the concept is, two is one, one is none. I'm not one of the people under the assumption that one knife does everything, but if you can't do a job between two different knives, you need to re-evaluate your choices. Why do you need to carry a cooking stove? I never got this. Sure, there are some pretty lightweight mini stoves out there. But why use fuel when nature provides it's own?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Because you can't boil some hot tea to warm yourself up in an alpine rescue hut above the tree line without a stove, in a lot of areas fire isn't allowed, and cooking meals on a gas stove is faster than collecting wood and building a fire first.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>77881 some areas dont allow fires, and if your on long treks you might go through areas without enough brush and trees
Anonymous
Quoted By:
for places with: -no wood -lots of wood, but no water in the past month
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm Mon 08 Apr 2013 05:00:59 No. 77908 Report What do you carry multiples of? I carry two knives (multi tool, mora fixed), and an axe, but aside from that and the fact I carry matches as well as a fire steel, I don't really have doubles of anything. What do you consider so important you'll add the extra weight to carry a second of?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>77881 op has clearly never tried to make a fire when it is -5 degrees Fahrenheit. fire is essential when wintercamping to boil snow/lakewater. but there is nothing better than hot tea/coffee and a warm oatmeal. same goes for lunch. usually only light fires in the evening after travel is done.
Anonymous
>>77908 socks. I always bring an extra extra pair.
this is my fav post ive seen on /out/ from a /k/ guy. well prepared. but not completely over the top.
I have an isopro stove, but I also carry a small hatchet and a 15 in. sven saw. depending on the duration of the stay and who im with I either bring a folding gerber or my Buck knife. i have a chinky folding pliers that is doing the trick until I get a leatherman. Its really tiny and light too. so I actually like it.
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm Mon 08 Apr 2013 05:20:42 No. 77949 Report Quoted By:
>>77922 Nope! I've done cold weather camping a few times but never had to deal with much snow. Rain, yes, and fuck it's a bitch getting wet wood to catch, if at all.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
I carry 2 knives, 2 types of fire starting equipment, 2 seperate lengths of paracord and 2 compasses and flashlights (full-sized and keychain). I also divide my first aid kit up into 2 smaller pouches. 1 each of those in my pack and on my person. The added weight of that system is less than 50 grams (not counting the extra knife and firestarter, cause everyone has those). That way, whatever happens, I'll still have the essentials with me.
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm Mon 08 Apr 2013 05:23:58 No. 77956 Report Quoted By:
>>77946 Thanks :3
That being said, I use a leatherman fuse that I got because it came in bright orange and I got a free head lamp with it, which I ended up liking a lot and carrying to replace my flashlight due to how easy it was and convenient (doing things with both hands at night is now ten times easier). But the leatherman wave is the thing to get. If you want a good leatherman that doesn't cost upwards of 100, get the fuse, you won't regret it.
Anonymous
>>77881 >Why do you need to carry a cooking stove? Stealth camping. Fire bans. Lack of dry wood. Lack of any wood. Being too tired to want to look for wood. Making a quick coffee and getting an early start in the morning. Making hot soup or hot chocolate en route. Being confident enough in your masculinity that you don't need to prove your fire making skills every night.
>>77908 Knives, flashlights, means to make fire/light stove. None of those need to be heavy. Extra inner tubes if I'm bike camping. Paddle if I'm canoeing/kayaking (legal requirement). Compass and map backup to GPS if I bring GPS.
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm Mon 08 Apr 2013 05:27:26 No. 77965 Report >>77962 Practice makes perfect, and knowledge replaces tools.
That being said, that's a justifiable answer.
Anonymous
>>77946 >socks This, no matter what I do I keep an extra pair in my truck or pack etc. I got wet feet while hunting once, ignored it and kept going, I paid for that mistake.
Anonymous
>>77965 Well that said I do have fires when I can because I have a fire fetish. But most of last summer we were under a fire ban.
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm Mon 08 Apr 2013 05:31:46 No. 77979 Report >>77967 I'll carry a pair aside from what I have on my feet. I also get the moisture wicking socks, helps prevent that kind of stuff. I go under the idea that if I'm on a trip for longer, I'll dry my socks over night by the fire.
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm Mon 08 Apr 2013 05:32:30 No. 77982 Report >>77977 Too dry? Did you live in Indiana, by any chance?
Anonymous
>>77979 I used to think like that until I hiked in an area where it hardly ever stopped raining for a week.
Anonymous
>>77982 Ontario, Canada. Don't know how widespread it was but everywhere I was the fire danger signs were in the red zone when I was there. Usually it's not that big a problem but last summer was the hottest and driest I can remember.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>77997 Same here in northern Minnesota, we had very few days we could burn.
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm
WO1 /k/ Test Guy !!cB8gBTe/0Gm Mon 08 Apr 2013 06:01:46 No. 78027 Report Quoted By:
>>77997 >>77989 I know it was like that in Indiana, biiiiiiig draught, and considering a large percentage of Indiana are just farmers, it was not a good thing.
gotta love these HERP DERP I ARE MURRIKAN WHY WORLD USE STOVE WHEN I CAN BURN ERRYTHING you may as well have just written your first line as "I AM A FUCKING IGNORAMUS"
Anonymous
>>78257 15 threads per page 10 pages for 150 threads open and you find it necessary to berate people in a thread that the last post was over 6 hours ago with HERP DERP I ARE MURRIKAN WHY WORLD USE STOVE WHEN I CAN BURN ErRYTHING.
One has to wonder if you life revolves around your dislike of Americans.
Quoted By:
>>78260 >implying this is the only thread i've ever replied in >implying this isn't the first retarded HERP DERP THIS ARE WAY I DO IT YOU ARE STOOPIDS WHY IS WORLD DOES STUFF DUFFERUNT thread Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>77881 I generally bring a multitool such as a swiss army knife as well as a proper knife.
As for cooking, I carry a set of army mess tins and a burner. It's much quicker, easier and more efficient to use than making your own fire out of 'what nature provides'. Also if you are in a very wet climate/area it becomes very hard to get fire going.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Redundancy is for planes. Any person should be more than capable of not losing their gear while hiking. Make a checklist if you have to.