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Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 18:54:43 No.800147 View View Reply Original Report

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hey /out/

I've always had the worst knledge of knot tying in explorers and even today I only know how to tie 2 basic knots so I was wondering

what are your favourite and most useful knots you know?

thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:14:59 No.800168 Report

Quoted By: >>800476

also if you could give the name of the knot that would be great

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:21:50 No.800180 Report

Quoted By: >>800189 >>800190 >>805555

Palomar for fishing hooks
Albright for merging 2 lengths of line
Arbor for pretty much everything else

When in doubt if you dont know knots, tie lots

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:26:19 No.800187 Report

Quoted By: >>800189 >>800203

>>800147
Tautline Hitch, because it is really useful when for tent lines, you can adjust tension and such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkN3K5G8eE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:27:10 No.800189 Report

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>>800180
>>800187
thanks guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:29:43 No.800190 Report

Quoted By: >>806054

>>800180
this so much.
practice practice practice. If you have 15 minutes with nothing to do, keep a pair of shoelaces in your pocket and practice knots. it sounds stupid and strange but god damned if it's not one of the most useful skills I've given myself, and has twice saved my life and countless times my wallet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:34:00 No.800196 Report

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>>800147
bowline, sheetbend, blood knot, prusik for climbing lines

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:35:28 No.800198 Report

Quoted By: >>800399

>>800147
i use the amazing overhand + larks head combo for everything, its beauty and uses are unreal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:37:58 No.800202 Report

Quoted By: >>800363

I came across this bend two years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_bend

An amazingly secure bend and super easy to tie and untie once you do it a few times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:39:52 No.800203 Report

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>>800187

There are a few knots like the tauline hitch, its amazing how some knots won't work in a certain type of line.
I had some rope of varying stiffness and slickness and the tautline would only work on one which the adjustable grip hitch would work on the other

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:43:23 No.800209 Report

Quoted By: >>800210 >>800219

San Diego Jam, blood knot, arbor knot, surgeons loop, surgeons knot, uni knot, palomar, clove hitch.

If you have a smart phone then there's 3D knot tying apps that animate the steps involved in tying knots. Not to mention they usually come with extremely large lists of knots to pick from. Great learning tools

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 19:46:36 No.800210 Report

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>>800209

That is one of about three apps I have ever spent money on. Highly recommended. "Knots 3D" is the title

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 20:03:52 No.800219 Report

Quoted By:

>>800209

will do, thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 20:31:48 No.800235 Report

Quoted By: >>802352

>>800147
the figure eight family of knots, the reef knot, the surgeons knot, munter hitch, and prusik

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 20:38:12 No.800241 Report

Quoted By: >>800246 >>800388 >>810217 >>811687

>>800147

animatedknots.com

Loops
>Bowline (quick, easy)
>Figure 8 on a bight (strong, harder to untie)
>Overhand on a bight (similar to figure 8)
>Alpine butterfly (good for midline loops, harder to untie)

Bends (joining two rope ends)
>Reef/square knot (quick, easy)
>Fisherman/double fisherman (strong, harder to untie)
>Zeppelin/Rosendahl bend (excellent for ropes of different diameters)

Hitches
>Clove hitch (easy, strong)
>Rolling hitch (strong, good for taught lines)
>Truckers hitch (adjustable, good for tightening lines)
>Prussic/klemheist (friction hitches, adjustable)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 20:51:36 No.800246 Report

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>>800241
Using animated knows as well. I use these knots for trekking / camping with a tarp:

Midmanships Hitch (def. the most important one)
Water Bowline
Poachers Knot
Alpine Butterfly Loop
Round Turn and Two Half Hitches
Tumble Hitch
Zeppelin Bend

Mostly using the midmanships hitch, the water bowline and the tumble hitch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 23:49:43 No.800354 Report

Quoted By: >>810104

these are the 3 knots I'm going.
I made the bottom one up, because I found it difficult to open the trucker's hitch I was teached.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 00:08:18 No.800363 Report

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>>800202
This x1000

Super easy to tie, and can be untied after a load is placed on it.

People like the fisherman's knot, but that can weld itself together so it'll never be untied, and uses a lot of cord for the knots. The Zeppelin bend is my go to for tying to ends of cord together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 00:43:10 No.800388 Report

Quoted By:

>>800241
midshipman's aka taut line hitch is one of the most basic. surgeon's knot for joining line together is also an easy and useful one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 00:59:26 No.800399 Report

Quoted By: >>800405

>>800198
>a 2-rope join that you can put weight on then undo without breaking 3 fingernails

thank you my man

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 01:06:31 No.800405 Report

Quoted By: >>815801

>>800399
Try the Zeppelin bend. Can join 2 ropes, super easy to tie, and can be untied even after being heavily loaded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 02:56:57 No.800476 Report

Quoted By:

>>800147
sheet bend
>>800168
granny knot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 04:07:34 No.800504 Report

Quoted By: >>800654

#1 Bowline
#2 Clove hitch
#3 Reef knot
these are essential, if you want more then I'd go
#4 rolling hitch
#5 any tension knot (truckers etc)
#6 figure of 8 on the bite

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 09:03:27 No.800585 Report

Quoted By: >>800655 >>802883

This. The Knot.

Simplified Trucker's Hitch, using either a simple slippery half hitch or slip noose, or "better", an alpine butterfly knot, creating a 2:1 mechanical pulley making guy lines and tarps taught as fuck.

See for instance here:
>http://andrewskurka.com/2012/tarp-guyline-system/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 09:08:43 No.800587 Report

Quoted By: >>801137 >>802671 >>810271

THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE TOWING KNOTS..

So many outdoors folk don't know how to tie a proper towing knot for like yanking heavy shit around, so many times I've seen guys just tie their favorite "strongest knot" and it be utterly junk to UNTIE and they just end up cutting like 2 feet of their rope...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 13:59:21 No.800654 Report

Quoted By: >>801031 >>801137

>>800504
Actually the clove hitch is recc9mended NOT to be taught now since it has a tendency to slip, and other knots do not.
I still use it though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jun 2016 14:01:14 No.800655 Report

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>>800585
This is how I tie my truckers hitch knots, used them often, until I started using some small figure 9 biners for my tarp. They weight nothing and work really well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jun 2016 01:22:10 No.801031 Report

Quoted By:

>>800654
Recommended where?

Clovehitch

Clovehitch Sat 25 Jun 2016 04:33:27 No.801137 Report

Quoted By:

>>800654
The clovehitch is a whore in the fact that it needs to have equal tension on both bitter ends. Works just fine tall ships for ratlines and the like!
>>800587 Try a slippery constrictor friend, it jams under itself rather nicely and if you have a stopper knot( a figure eight or a half hitch tossed somewhere) the bight shouldn't go running off whilst hauling something. I Love the bowline or a rolling hitch for things of that nature though that is more for vertical hauling than towing. Maybe the logger's hitch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2016 22:24:04 No.802352 Report

Quoted By:

>>800235
>the figure eight family of knots
My nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2016 11:18:25 No.802671 Report

Quoted By:

>>800587

SO POST SOME

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2016 19:24:39 No.802869 Report

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My fav knot is the girth hitch with an extra turn. I don't know why, I just like it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2016 19:35:09 No.802874 Report

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>>800147
did someone say favourite knots

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2016 19:51:04 No.802883 Report

Quoted By: >>803539

>>800585
Slip knots are for fags. This is the right way to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 18:42:00 No.803539 Report

Quoted By:

>>802883
Can come loose if losing tension.. Not a fan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 19:17:48 No.803561 Report

Quoted By: >>803562 >>803600

I didn't expect this thread to keep on going but
another question

when you cut a strand of rope and you have all
the tails leaving in different directions, how
do you clean the ends? I've seen people use a flame but is there another way?

>pic related

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 19:18:56 No.803562 Report

Quoted By: >>803629 >>803665

>>803561

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 20:22:07 No.803600 Report

Quoted By:

>>803561
tape

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 21:08:26 No.803629 Report

Quoted By:

>>803562
i usually melt a bit with flame, and crimp it with pliers, but i'd also be interested in alternatives

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 21:57:09 No.803665 Report

Quoted By: >>803669 >>803754

>>803562
Use a whipping knot to secure the ends. Similar to tying a noose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_knot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 22:00:11 No.803669 Report

Quoted By: >>803674 >>803754

>>803665
what about the ends of the line you used for whipping?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 22:07:37 No.803674 Report

Quoted By: >>803750

>>803669
holy shit whipception

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 23:35:54 No.803750 Report

Quoted By: >>803754

>>803674
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2016 23:39:51 No.803754 Report

Quoted By:

>>803665
>>803669
>>803750
I honestly just plasti-dip th ends of my shit. Plasti-dip is one of the best things to use for all manners of stuff there is!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 01:14:15 No.803847 Report

Quoted By: >>803852 >>803950 >>810282

If you're only going to learn one knot in your life, learn a bowline. Also for the love of god never use a reef knot, use carrick bend or sheet bend instead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 01:20:40 No.803852 Report

Quoted By:

>>803847
I prefer the single, double, or triple fisherman's bend. Only the hangman's noose is nearly as satisfying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 03:15:50 No.803950 Report

Quoted By:

>>803847
nope, forget the carrick bend, use the Zeppelin Bend

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 05:26:42 No.804027 Report

Quoted By:

>>800147
Two half hitches, taut line hitch, double figure eight, double sheet bend, bowline, clove hitch. Learn those knots and you can conquer the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 23:06:32 No.805262 Report

Quoted By: >>810282

>>800147
I mostly use a square knot or sheet bend to join rope.
taught-line hitch is good when staking down a tent/tarp
I know a few lashings but almost never use them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 02:07:39 No.805372 Report

Quoted By:

All I ever use is a tautline hitch and a truckers hitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 03:24:44 No.805415 Report

Quoted By:

>>800147
Your pic related is the granny knot. Never tie that knot. Instead, go for the square knot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 05:10:56 No.805462 Report

Quoted By:

Bowline, square knot, clove hitch, figure eight and figure eight on a bite are my four core.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 05:29:17 No.805471 Report

Quoted By:

>>800147
First the bowline. Absolutely super duper great.
2nd is a harder choice, gonna have to be a clove hitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 12:45:01 No.805555 Report

Quoted By:

>>800180
If you cannot knot, knot a lot!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 04:32:47 No.806054 Report

Quoted By: >>808407

I like this thread I was just thinking of knots a bit lately and was wondering if there was a specific thread about this up on this board.
>>800190
This seems like pretty good advice I rarely get to sit down with a rope and tie knots I found without knowing a lot of them I end up making a slipknot or tautline type knots just messing around with a line.

Been a few situations I needed a knot bowline is fast and would of worked really well for what I was doing if I hadn't forgot it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 10:53:06 No.808407 Report

Quoted By:

>>800147
>>806054
>bowline
Thanks, this was really helpful!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2016 02:21:07 No.809695 Report

Quoted By: >>809698

This sounds stupid of me, but is there a book that tells breaks it down, says what knot to use in different situations?

This Ashley book is more like a listing of all of the knots and I figure that there's got to be less than twenty different knotting "situations" that exist, like "tie two pieces of rope together" or "tie two poles together."

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2016 02:24:22 No.809698 Report

Quoted By: >>809717

>>809695
if you need an actual book or pamplet to bring with you places i can't help, but animatedknots.com is a grrreat site for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2016 02:44:45 No.809717 Report

Quoted By: >>809741

>>809698
See, I have looked at that site and did not do anything for me. I don't need to know HOW to tie knots before I know how to pick the kind of knot for the job.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2016 03:15:14 No.809741 Report

Quoted By:

>>809717
well they're sorted by industry/activity/use, and each one has a nice description for what it's best used for. idunno what else to tell yer, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2016 18:28:31 No.810101 Report

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>>800147
Figure 8 follow through, munter hitch, and some sort of slipknot are the only three knots you'll ever need to know.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2016 18:33:20 No.810104 Report

Quoted By: >>814740

>>800354
Figure 8 follow through infinitely better than that first knot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2016 22:55:47 No.810217 Report

Quoted By: >>811687

>>800241
Figure 8 follow through isn't difficult to untie if you include a Yosemite finish

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2016 00:31:59 No.810271 Report

Quoted By:

>>800587
Timber hitch with one or a few half hitches works great in my experience, held the full weight of a log I was hoisting in the air.

http://www.animatedknots.com/timber/index.php?Categ=scouting&LogoImage=LogoGrog.png&Website=www.animatedknots.com#ScrollPoint

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2016 00:44:25 No.810282 Report

Quoted By:

>>800147
>>805262
>>803847
Aye, reef knot/square knot is a pretty insecure knot. Watch:

https://youtu.be/SbpfBqyDNyg

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2016 22:27:00 No.811501 Report

Quoted By:

>>800147
Has anyone ever tied an icicle hitch around an icicle?

http://www.animatedknots.com/icicleend/#ScrollPoint

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2016 23:31:31 No.811552 Report

Quoted By:

I used a Marlinspike Hitch today to make a short temporary rope ladder. It can be a real pain in the ass if you have to move the ladder, you essentially have to redo the entire thing. The reason for that is because you can step down on the rung and it will be snug, but if the rung is lifted up the hitch come lose slides up and can capsize. Then again, it is temporary.

The ladder was used for an 8-feet high, undercut, riverbank. It worked solidly well enough (I'm 6' 2" 230lbs).

>pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 03:05:18 No.811687 Report

Quoted By: >>813278

>>800241
lol bowlines, yeah those suck.

>>810217
yeah those are better at the end of a loop than a double fishermans, as a climber i prefer them.

PEPENOOO

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PEPENOOO Tue 12 Jul 2016 01:55:22 No.813000 Report

Quoted By: >>813011 >>814485 >>814747

What ever this is called. I used it once for tightening a rope bridge onto a tree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 02:17:58 No.813011 Report

Quoted By: >>813045 >>814747

>>813000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_loop

PEPENOOO

PEPENOOO Tue 12 Jul 2016 03:25:53 No.813045 Report

Quoted By: >>813056

>>813011
Thanks. It is a top kek knot. Real easy to make, doesn't lock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 03:39:12 No.813056 Report

Quoted By: >>814485

>>813045
wait, I was wrong, your drawing depicts Alpine Butterfly, not Artillery loop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 15:20:16 No.813278 Report

Quoted By:

>>811687
Nothing wrong with a bowline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 14:21:03 No.814485 Report

Quoted By:

>>813000
>>813056

Can confirm for alpine butterfly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 21:01:58 No.814740 Report

Quoted By: >>814747

>>810104
This is a far better loop, Butterfly loop, or Alpine butter fly loop (called the latter when you tie it like my pic is showing)

It doesn't lower the strenght of the rope anything near that of doing a figure eight (which is a good knot for a lot of things thou)

AND no mater how hard it has been used, you can open the loop by wresteling it forwards and backwords in the knot, and it will come loose. A figure eight can lock it self to the point of being practically not able to loose.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 21:06:22 No.814747 Report

Quoted By:

>>813000
>>813011
Artillery loop is inferior to the Butterfly, Artillery can loosen, and can not be loaded from both ends!!!

>>814740
This is the proper to use, and it can also be tied like the picture

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jul 2016 00:47:53 No.814879 Report

Quoted By: >>815722 >>815805

what's the top five knots that I MUST know? Right know I know the bowline and devilseye (for fishing)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2016 15:34:35 No.815722 Report

Quoted By: >>815791

>>814879
what /out/ do you do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2016 17:32:23 No.815791 Report

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>>815722
Gardening, hiking, sometimes have to climb a tree to collect stuff like walnuts or fungus

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2016 17:41:09 No.815798 Report

Quoted By: >>815805

>>800147
My top 5 in order:
>Taut Line Hitch
>Sheet Bend (Square knot is pleb tier)
>Alpine Butterfly Loop
>Clove Hitch
>Bowline

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2016 17:44:02 No.815801 Report

Quoted By:

>>800405
THIS. I was about to reccomend this but saw your reply. It does take a bit of practice to learn though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2016 17:49:11 No.815805 Report

Quoted By:

>>814879
See >>815798

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