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Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2016 20:06:13 No.831047 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>831064 >>831067 >>831365 >>831394 >>832049 >>832876

Why are carabiners intrinsically so damn cool?
>Go to /out/doors store
>Go to climbing gear section
>See carabiners
>Fingerfuck them for a good 20 minutes
People probably thought that I have autism because didn't buy one because I'm a poorfag neet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2016 20:51:36 No.831064 Report

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>>831047
Weight-rated or go home.

>inb4 7kN and 8kN
You need to be 105lbs or less to use the 7kN back biner and 120lbs or less to use the others as a life safety device. OSHA standards say weight-rated equipment needs to have a tensile strength equal to 15:1.

That's a device that holds 15 pounds for every 1 pound that you weigh.
7kN = ~1600lbs. 1600lbs/15 = ~105lbs.
8kN = ~1800lbs. 1800lbs/15 = ~120lbs.

Here's a link to a biner that holds 31kN:
http://rocknrescue.com/acatalog/R-N-R---Poseidon-Non-Locking-Aluminum-Carabiner-RC008.html#SID=456

31kN = ~7000lbs. 7000lbs/15 = ~470lbs.
Now THAT'S safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2016 20:53:00 No.831067 Report

Quoted By: >>831226 >>831336 >>831440

>>831047
Weight-rated or go home.

>inb4 7kN and 8kN
You need to be 105lbs or less to use the 7kN white biner and 120lbs or less to use the others as a life safety device. OSHA standards say weight-rated equipment needs to have a tensile strength equal to 15:1.

That's a device that holds 15 pounds for every 1 pound that you weigh.
7kN = ~1600lbs. 1600lbs/15 = ~105lbs.
8kN = ~1800lbs. 1800lbs/15 = ~120lbs.

Here's a link to a biner that holds 31kN:
http://rocknrescue.com/acatalog/R-N-R---Poseidon-Non-Locking-Aluminum-Carabiner-RC008.html#SID=456

31kN = ~7000lbs. 7000lbs/15 = ~470lbs.
Now THAT'S safe.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 00:42:09 No.831226 Report

Quoted By: >>831234 >>831247 >>831418 >>831481 >>831769

>>831067

My keychain biner is 8kN. Is this good enuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 00:48:21 No.831234 Report

Quoted By: >>831246 >>831247

>>831226
Did you even read his post; you need to go home.

You need to multiple the amount of keys by the density of the oxygen 3 days prior to going outdoors to confirm if the carabiner can hold that many keys.

I personally would not buy any carabiner less than $500, you are just asking for shit quality.

You probably buy tarps under $1000 too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 01:00:19 No.831246 Report

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>>831234
>post

kek'd

I wonder if 1500 lbs of tensile force applied to a person through a carabiner is even survivable.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 01:02:27 No.831247 Report

Quoted By: >>831481

>>831234
>You probably buy tarps under $1000 too
That thread was pure gold. I miss those days.

>>831226
That biner is fine, the other guy is exaggerating. Even good stuff like petzl is has more or less that kn values.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 03:41:54 No.831336 Report

Quoted By: >>831481

>>831067
>31kN long axis
>Doesn't specify open-gate strength.
>Doesn't specify cross-load strength.

Surely you wouldn't trust your life to unknowns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 04:16:04 No.831353 Report

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Oh God. I remember when EVERYONE had one on their keychain

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 04:52:05 No.831363 Report

Quoted By: >>831407 >>832378

Currently rocking one of these sweet thangs on my keychain. I use the bottle opener all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 05:06:28 No.831365 Report

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>>831047
OP you've got a fucking death wish posting using non-locking beaners.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 06:24:17 No.831394 Report

Quoted By: >>831417 >>831513

>>831047
if you like clicking carabiners you should play with some cams. they'll blow your fucking mind.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 06:54:44 No.831407 Report

Quoted By: >>831441

>>831363
Me too, senpai

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 07:47:22 No.831417 Report

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>>831394
AAAAAY NIGGA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 07:50:01 No.831418 Report

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>>831226
Should be 22kn, that's ce and UIAA standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 08:27:14 No.831440 Report

Quoted By: >>831481

>>831067
>tfw you realize you weigh to much for your keychain
I'm going to ask for a refund since osha says you need to have 15:1 ratio to clip two things together regardless of use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 08:30:32 No.831441 Report

Quoted By: >>831509

>>831407
thats fatwood?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:22:31 No.831481 Report

Quoted By: >>831486 >>831759 >>831769 >>832283

>>831226
Good enough to hold keys to your belt or food to a tree branch but not enough to use as a life safety device.

>>831247
>the other guy is exaggerating.
It's an OSHA standard, so you're saying OSHA is exaggerating? If you don't plan on using it as a life-safety device then screw the ratings, but if you're going /out/ I'd suggest getting one that's rated to hold your fat ass up off the ground - just in case.

>>831336
Surely. It's just an example for the plebs so they can see these biners exist and are ~$10USD.

>>831440
>I'm going to ask for a refund since osha says you need to have 15:1 ratio to clip two things together regardless of use.
>regardless of use
You ignorant twat - OSHA says you need to have 15:1 ratio for life safety devices. I figured context clues would be enough but alas; you've proven your arrogance knows no bounds.

Good to see the contrarians coming out of the woodwork - I was starting to think this board was full of respectable denizens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:37:13 No.831483 Report

Quoted By: >>831505

wtf do you even use them for?

i've gotten a couple from the air force and I have on on my vest, but only keep gate keys on it

I cant think of many uses where I'll say "wow I'm glad I had that d clip"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:42:19 No.831486 Report

Quoted By: >>831505

>>831481
Post an example of a good carabiner then

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 13:46:16 No.831505 Report

Quoted By: >>831510 >>831721

>>831483
>wtf do you even use them for?
Various riggings - food containers tied to tree branches, gear clipped to packs, climbing anchor (trees, utility poles, cliff faces).

>>831486
Here's a Petzl non-locker for under $10USD that's weight rated and comes with a pdf spec sheet.
https://www.petzl.com/US/en/Professional/Connectors/SPIRIT#.V6c7LqKHNqs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 13:54:42 No.831509 Report

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>>831441
Yeah found it in NZ and made some keychains from it

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 13:54:47 No.831510 Report

Quoted By: >>831523 >>831552 >>831656 >>832103

>>831505
>31kN = ~7000lbs. 7000lbs/15 = ~470lbs.
>Now THAT'S safe.
>posts a biner that has 23 kN maximum strength
what the fuck are you up to, mate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 13:56:59 No.831513 Report

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>>831394
A couple weeks ago I was watching videos on youtube about that piece of gear, it's lovely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 14:02:03 No.831516 Report

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> leaver biner is best biner

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 14:12:11 No.831523 Report

Quoted By: >>831528

>>831510
>what the fuck are you up to, mate?
OSHA's 15:1 standard, m8.

23kN = ~5170lbs
5170lbs/15 = ~345lbs
You need to be less than 345lbs to use this biner safely. By these numbers one Spirit biner could safely hold 2 people assuming they are both around 170lbs each. Otherwise, it would hold one neckbeard chinner and all his cum-covered weeb figurines with ease.

I'd say the Spirit is also very safe you cheeky cunt.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 14:17:58 No.831528 Report

Quoted By: >>831560

>>831523
fair enough, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 14:45:14 No.831552 Report

Quoted By: >>831718

>>831510
>hemp rope
>paracord
>kong frog
>worries about cross loading a perfectly safe biner

yer
gonna
die

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 15:01:49 No.831560 Report

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>>831528
It's just some simple research and math but you're welcome.

My rantings about the OSHA standard aren't trivial shitpostings. I just don't want to read or hear about one of you anons getting killed because your rigging failed, and the OSHA standard has proven to be a safe and reliable policy for over 30 years now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 16:34:12 No.831656 Report

Quoted By: >>831718

>>831510
>thirteen 50' coils of rope
>lecturing other people about apprpriate gear

kek. have fun passing all those knots, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 17:53:52 No.831718 Report

Quoted By: >>831720

>>831552
>>831656
not recognizing shibari gear. damn /out/ists.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 17:58:23 No.831720 Report

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>>831718

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 17:59:19 No.831721 Report

Quoted By: >>831725

>>831505
You clip a carabiner to a cliff face?

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:04:09 No.831725 Report

Quoted By: >>831726 >>831742 >>831744 >>831760

>>831721
pic related - this is not a difficult concept to grasp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:08:53 No.831726 Report

Quoted By: >>831734

>>831725
i don't trust those things. hammering a rivet into a crumbly rockface? fugno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:19:54 No.831734 Report

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>>831726
They're used world-wide every day by workers and recreation climbers alike.

http://howtorockclimbing-4u.blogspot.com/2012/05/technique-for-rock-climbing-anchor.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:35:34 No.831742 Report

Quoted By: >>831743

>>831725
I'm well aware of that. Nobody who is a climber says they clip a biner to a cliff face. You would just say to clip a bolt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:39:03 No.831743 Report

Quoted By: >>831747

>>831742
I didn't say I clipped it to a cliff face, you inferred that on your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:39:04 No.831744 Report

Quoted By: >>831746 >>833412

>>831725
Who the fuck clips to rapp rings instead of the bolts themselves? Also 3 is major overkill on a bolted anchor like that. Two is completely bomber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:40:04 No.831746 Report

Quoted By: >>831750

>>831744
>complaining about a stock photo
You must be a thrill at parties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:40:13 No.831747 Report

Quoted By: >>831758

>>831743
The post I quoted said exactly that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:44:11 No.831750 Report

Quoted By: >>831758

>>831746
Since we are discussing this on a "discussion board" and not at a party talking about stock photos your argument is invalid.

Prove what I said is wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:59:52 No.831758 Report

Quoted By: >>831787

>>831747
No, it said:

------------------------------
>wtf do you even use them for?
Various riggings - food containers tied to tree branches, gear clipped to packs, climbing anchor (trees, utility poles, cliff faces).
------------------------------

Nowhere above will you find "I clip my carabiner to cliff faces". It says I use my carabiners as a climbing anchor when climbing cliff faces, you inferred that I attach them directly to the cliff face.

It's called "Reading Comprehension" and you should see about taking a class for it.

>>831750
I didn't say it was wrong, I just implied that you're awfully nit-picky about a stock photo.

Seriously, can nobody read on this board?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 18:59:56 No.831759 Report

Quoted By: >>831769

>>831481
Yes it is? That's a black diamond positron screw lock. I use those for anchor building

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/climbing-carabiners-quickdraws/positron-screwgate-BD2102830000ALL1.html#start=8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 19:01:29 No.831760 Report

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>>831725
I feel like that's a clustered anchor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 19:07:27 No.831769 Report

Quoted By: >>832068 >>832282

>>831759
Now that I have the specs in front of me, let me correct your original post:

>>831226
>My keychain biner is 8kN OPEN-GATE, 25kN CLOSED-GATE. Is this good enuff?

Now that we know it's 25kN MBS and not 8kN MBS, I will correct my statement:

>>831481
>Good enough to hold keys to your belt or food to a tree branch AND good enough to use as a life safety device.

Now that we corrected your fuck-up and adjusted my correct response to your incorrect specs this conversation went much more smoothly. See how easy that was - to do some basic research and not post misleading info?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 19:34:39 No.831787 Report

Quoted By: >>831809

>>831758
You come off as sounding like somebody who claims to be a climber but really has no clue what they are talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 20:05:15 No.831809 Report

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>>831787
>You come off as sounding like somebody who claims to be a climber but really has no clue what they are talking about
Forgive me, climbing gods - I will work on my terminology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 20:39:41 No.831842 Report

Quoted By: >>831846

Look at this photograph

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 20:43:42 No.831846 Report

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>>831842

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 01:15:31 No.832049 Report

Quoted By: >>832081

>>831047
>i literally dont have 10 fucking dollars to my name
jesus christ you fat fucking neet get a job

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 01:40:28 No.832068 Report

Quoted By: >>832090

>>831769
i didn't post that pic, you got the wrong anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:01:03 No.832081 Report

Quoted By: >>832089

>>832049
>fat
Lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:11:40 No.832089 Report

Quoted By: >>832101

>>832081
>im such a stupid fucking piece of shit that i somehow dont have 10 fucking dollars
>b-but at least im n-not f-fat!
kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:11:57 No.832090 Report

Quoted By: >>832099 >>832238 >>832304

>>832068
Then read and fuck off, you twat - stop attacking me like I was talking to you. Anyone with half a brain could see he posted the wrong specs once you have the spec sheet in front of you.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:17:30 No.832099 Report

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>>832090

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:21:22 No.832101 Report

Quoted By: >>832110

>>832089
Yep you can bet it. I like not being fat better than having 10 dollaridoos.
Also you seem mad as fuck and worrying too much about my financial situation, are you a fatlard? It's a rhetoric question btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:22:07 No.832103 Report

Quoted By:

>>831510
GUYS THIS IS A BONDAGE KIT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:30:52 No.832110 Report

Quoted By: >>832111

>>832101
>I like not being fat better than having 10 dollaridoos.
you do realize this isnt an either/or scenario right? you can get a job while not being a fat worthless sack of shit.

you arent this fucking stupid are you?

kys disgusting neet you sicken me and the rest of society

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:34:58 No.832111 Report

Quoted By: >>832113 >>832115

>>832110
Get ready weekendd is almost over, time to go to work, wageslave. Meanwhile I will just drive my shit old car to the nearest beach and enjoy myself. Also just relax, life is short for you to be this mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:43:11 No.832113 Report

Quoted By: >>832123

>>832111
more like go fantasize about being able to afford a $10 carabiner while living with mommy
fucking pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 02:47:09 No.832115 Report

Quoted By: >>832123

>>832111
>life's too short
>doesnt even have $10
Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 03:01:33 No.832123 Report

Quoted By: >>832128

>>832113
Time is ticking, fag.

>>832115
>Money
>important

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 03:07:38 No.832128 Report

Quoted By: >>832133

>>832123
>>Money
>>important
Says the guy making a thread about not having any.
You can tell yourself youre living the dream broke and staying with your mom but everyone including yourself knows thats not true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 03:16:03 No.832133 Report

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>>832128
Dude I don't really care about what some guys on a botswanan forum say. I live the comfy life and that's the truth, giving up some material things is worth to allow me to maintain it.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 07:33:31 No.832238 Report

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>>832090
But I'm not attacking you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 10:43:27 No.832282 Report

Quoted By: >>832283 >>832433

>>831769
M8 someone asked for a thread with a generic topic and you went on an autistic rant about something no one was talking about.

It's like op says what's your favorite /out/ rifle and then the first post goes on about how you need a .375 H&H magnum or stay in because some guys might happen to live in Africa and might need to shoot a rhino incase it charges. When most people will never run across anything other than a rabbit.

Or you go on that everyone needs a full size axe and shovel because a few people that go out happen to be smoke jumpers and might have to take care of a forest fire. Even though the only fire damn near anyone will see is their camp fire or stove.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 10:44:28 No.832283 Report

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>>832282
Meant for
>>831481

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 12:23:57 No.832304 Report

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>>832090
what the fuck? holy autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 15:23:16 No.832378 Report

Quoted By:

>>831363
>not being able to open a bottle with random objects including other bottles, lighters, and basically any hard edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 17:23:47 No.832433 Report

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>>832282
Using a rated carabiner for non-climbing applications is less about strength and more about quality. Non-rated carabiners are, for the most part, pieces of shit. Even if you never put load on a shit carabiner, it's probably still going to break in some way. For example the gate breaks because it's a piece of shit. You can get fully rated carabiners that are roughly the same size as those small unrated pieces of shit for under ten dollars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Aug 2016 07:57:51 No.832876 Report

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>>831047
i got 4 omega pacific with wire lock for $20 from ebay 2 years ago

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Anonymous Wed 10 Aug 2016 02:47:06 No.833412 Report

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>>831744

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