#112-"75 and Sunny" Edition
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>>912446 >tfw perfect day to be outside fishin How is the weather for those up north? Does it feel good getting cucked by Mother Nature all the time? Just sitting there, weeping, watching Mama N get rammed by 12" of thick, hard black ice.
Still waiting for help with the beginner guides on the Pastebin. I put a little saltwater one in there, but I want to do a river one possibly. Skid typed up a saltwater guide so enjoy the autism and CAbaymang just did a trout one.
Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N Talk about fishin
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914378 What reel u putting on that?
>>914394 Post it nigga
>>914405 What time are you going? Some days it's basically impossible to get largemouth from shore unless you hit them right at dawn or dusk.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914394 I'm glad you like it!
Anonymous
someone give me the skinny on building a fishing pond on my property
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914439 Was that a micro guide rod?
Anonymous
>>914440 Prepare to spend 30K
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914438 Im probably gonna throw on my black max just to fuck around with it for now, but I'm thinking about getting a Daiwa. I'm gonna wait until after Christmas and see if dicks has any good reel deals.
>>914441 No I don't think so
Anonymous
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>>914440 Hire a professional and make sure you get a permit. People tend to dislike you if your pond is built improperly, breaks, and floods them.
Anonymous
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914444 Quads of truth
Btw, where is FL fag who can't catch a bass?
Down south here it seems like the Texas rigs are still doin work but they are hitting some hardbaits. Not quite cool enough for big spinners that look like a whole school of baitfish, but smaller stuff (Size #6-#8 Rapalas) that mimic a smaller injured baitfish have been getting some action. And still not cool enough for them to be feeding all day. That was my problem today going out from like noon to 2pm. In February with the pre-spawn bass they will be eating anything and everything.
For the Texas rigs, they always seem to go for smaller worms or baby brush hogs. Colors like Junebug a best for me in most conditions but it all depends on the water. Natural for really good visibility and if they aren't hitting that, chartruse will drive em crazy.
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914445 Ah, I see. That's a good price because those rods don't go on sale much.
Only reason I was asking is because Dick's had the sale on the Veritas and Veracity micro guide rods and I thought maybe Academy or wherever you are was discontinuing them too.
Anonymous
>>914441 I have a vendetta paired with Abu revo sx. It's a good all around rod. VERY light weight.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
First it came in this box from this fancy company. Never heard of them before but now I might have to try them out.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>914448 I was looking at those awhile back. The Exceler looks pretty good too.
>>914450 Yeah it was at academy. The last couple guides look smaller than normal guides, but not as small as micro guides. Either way I think it'll work pretty good I've heard good things.
>>914455 Yeah this rod is crazy light. I think slightly lighter than my blackout.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914456 Sweet Johnny I do love me some cards.
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914455 I have one too. It's straight. I was thinking the exact same thing that it's good all-around. It's not super fast but fast enough for little finesse twitches and at the same time works well for ripping a spinnerbait through the water.
And if you think that is light, you should pick up one of the Johnny Morris CarbonLite rods. The RevoSX is a really light reel (if yours is a baitcaster) and I have that on the CarbonLite and it literally weighs like half of any of my other combos.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914459 No worries bro all's good.
And I will definitely be getting jolly.
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
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>>914463 That's why I wanted to go buy the stuff in person and ship it myself but it was just too damn easy with the free shipping to click a couple things online and have em sent right to anon's house.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914463 And now to bust the money shot all in y'alls faces.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914463 Kek I was trying to find a card related to fishing, but Walmart didn't have any so I figured that was the next best thing.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914465 Those gar snags are fucking tight.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
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>>914466 I do love my lonestars
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914465 What is that middle Heddon called? It's not quite a popper but looks like it would make a bit more noise and walk more than the spooks. Looks cool.
And whatever that bait on the left is looks dank as well.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>914467 No guarantees, but they should be pretty solid. I wrapped it with 50lb braid and superglued them, so I think they'll hold up.
>>914469 Chug n spook mang
Anonymous
>>914460 I only used the black carbonlite rods. The new white ones are a lot less quality for the money
Anonymous
Wew lads, can't wait to throw the LX version of this reel onto a 9 foot surf rod.
Anonymous
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>>914440 It must be an upland pond. Otherwise you are fucked. Look at denr guidelines.
Anonymous
>>914449 Right here, I've tried everything in several different bodies of water. Getting pretty pissed off because I don't live close enough to saltwater to go every day and I haven't caught a single fish in months aside from a few catfish and some panfish.
About to buy a fishfinder since apparently I need the crutch
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>914483 Wait and see if any go on sale after Christmas
Anonymous
>>914483 >fishfinder Just learn about the target fish. At most, you'll need a thermometer on a string to check water temps.
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914472 I have the black one too. They changed some stuff and now the white ones are $90 instead of $120. I haven't played with the white ones much so idk the difference but I'm guessing they brought the CarbonLites down a notch so they could bring in the Titanium8 right above it and the Signature still be the flagship.
Even for the $120, I feel like those black CarbonLite rods are nice for the money. I'd like to play with the new white ones and see if I notice a big difference.
>>914475 Wut company is that? Looks nice. And expensive.
>>914483 That sucks. What baits exactly are you fishing?
Best option I would say is get some Zoom Baby Brush Hogs, ~1/4oz bullet weight, 3/0 EWG worm hook, Texas rig that. Then find a spot where there are some weeds or cover in a shallow area and a dropoff just past the weeds. Fish right along that dropoff around an hour before sunset. Cast it out, let it hit the bottom, and give the Texas rig little hops and twitches along the bottom with like 2-3 sec pauses between the hops. Wait to feel a bite, give the bass a second or two to grab the whole thing, and set the hook.
Anonymous
>>914488 Avet, and yeah they are pretty pricey. Though there are some Shimano reels that are much more expensive.
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914489 So do those have brakes and spool tensioners just like the memecasters? I have never even used a conventional reel.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914487 thats the thing though. All you really need to do to find bass is find weed lines and drop offs. With out one your just driving around guessing you're in the right spot. I mean sure you could spend a few years fishing to figure it out but a fish finer makes that knowledge accessible instantly. They also help you understand the best way to fish certain structures you come up on without as many snags.
Anonymous
>>914491 >>914491 Very similar but a lot of them are not for "casting" traditionally without like 4 ounces of lead or more
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914494 Dont some people take kayaks and paddle their bait out with those? How much line does it hold?
Anonymous
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>>914491 Yeah you have the option of having a magnetic switch on the side or spool tentioner on star drags, though if you practice enough you don't really need it and it just slightly hinders cast distance.
I always opt for cast control becasue birds-nests with 300+ yards of line fucking suck, especially with how fast the spools spin on lever drag reels. Conventionals are very popular here in Texas for some odd reason.
Anonymous
>>914495 Yes they do.
They generally hold a lot more line than spinners or baitcasters. Small ones hold like 300 yards of 17lb mono
Anonymous
>>914495 I cast them off piers and jetties, mostly for sharks and shit.. I have a 50 wide for yakking, mostly for sharks and shit.
Anonymous
>>914493 I've never had a problem without one. I suggest learning how to read the water too. Google maps is amazing for trip planning too.
Anonymous
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>>914500 Woops double post. kek
Anonymous
>>914498 For saltwater fishing?
Anonymous
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>>914504 >>914504 They get used for catfish and salmon very often. Sturgeon too. Etc etc
Anonymous
>>914487 I want to say I already know about the fish and where they like to hang out. I'm not new to fishing at all and can put myself on trout or redfish easily. I've been fishing structure, drop offs, everywhere that typically holds fish.
Although I guess if I knew as much as I thought I do I'd be catching bass.
>>914488 Chart lizards, red and white jigs, powerbait crawdads, and an original rapala today.
The whole lake is pretty damn shallow right now so all the weed beds are currently in <6 inches of water about 15 feet surrounding them. The only deep areas are in the middle of the lake. Only thing I saw people using here today was buzzbaits so I might try some of those eventually.
Anonymous
>>914508 Is bass fishing new to you or you don't do much of it? That may be why. Just fish more. Read more about habits with water depth, weather, life cycle, time of year, and temps.
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914508 I have never had luck with buzzbaits. There is lots of other useful topwater stuff but most of it I only really use in the early morning when I can see bass jumping and the water is fairly calm.
Anonymous
More of you need to make and show lures in these threads.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914501 The two main lakes I fish are massive. The fish move around a lot and are pretty pressured. You might get lucky to catch two all day if you dont have one. How do I know? because I got a little jhon boat 3 years ago that doesn't have one and have been occasionally bass fishing with it but mostly pan fishing. My uncle has a fish finder on his boat that I bass fish on a lot and it becomes much easier and a lot more fun when you have one. Not to mention the one he has is pretty old and basically is just a depth finder
Anonymous
>>914511 I've only used a buzz bait once in my life and caught a few bass on it that day. I just don't like the way they sound and churn up everything. I prefer poppers and Jitterbugs for topwater.
>>914514 It may be that I "just know" because I'm over that 10k hour requirement for bass fishing or something.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914515 How do you find underwater structure and suspending fish is 30ft of water on an unfamiliar body of water?
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
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>>914515 Yeah I definitely dont have that much under my belt. Ive only started try harding bass a few years ago when my uncle taught me how to creek fish for small mouth. Now i'm teaching myself how to lake fish, but like I said they're huge.
Anonymous
>>914516 Easy, I don't fish in such waters. I don't even use a boat. I also don't need to find anything other than the fish. So, I go and catch the fish. I only do it for food. I catch my creel limit and leave.
Anonymous
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>>914516 Side scan and a good fish finder
Anonymous
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>>914510 Yeah I've only tried for bass about 10 times
>>914516 thats my problem with muddy water and
>>914519 is what I think I'm gonna do.
There are so many lakes around here, I've been to the same one the last couple of times so I'm gonna try and find some place with deeper water that actually has a bunch of lilly pads and shit for fish to hide in.
Anonymous
Thoughts on Fenwick eagle vs Penn Allegiance 2 (medium power)? Penn says it's extra fast, while the Fenwick is just fast, thanks in advanced
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914519 how would you use a fish finder when your not on a boat? And shore fishing is a whole different game. Try going a few miles of shore in 50 feet of water in search of monster smallies
Anonymous
>>914522 Depends on your target species. Sharks or bluegill?
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
>>914522 I've had my Eagle for about a year and zero complaints if that means anything. Tons of people reccommended it too as the way to go if you are willing to spend $20 more than an Ugly Stik and actually get a good rod.
I want that Fenwick Elite now that one anon has. Pair that with a Pflueger Patriarch or whatever their nice spinning reel is.
Anonymous
>>914526 I don't fish for large fish. Large fish = lots of mercury and PCBs. Not good for eating. I have to throw several fish back for being too large because of that. Even then I can only eat 2 meals of black bass a month due to consumption advisories on them. I said before, I don't use a fish finder.
But, I fish from the shore and catch all I came to catch while people on boats don't seem to do very well when I ask them. So, they buy more equipment to "help" them.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914519 >t. anon who only fishes for bluegill with worms and a bobber Anonymous
>>914530 I jig for panfish sometimes too when I have just completely given up on targeting anything fun.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914512 TxLizardFag made me some bitch'n gar snags for fishmas.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914530 The two lake I fish in are super clean since they are so big. I personally only eat walleye, salmon, perch, crappie, and trout but I dont eat it very often. Mostly I small mouth large mouth bass, and pike fish and Id never eat any of those. Some people do but I know the other species I already said taste better and most arnt as hard to catch.
The lakes I fish there really isnt such thing as shore bass fishing. If you dont have a boat you dont catch much more then a few perch and sunfish
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914536 I left them a little long so you could trim them if you wanted. I figure you'd know better than me what length they should be
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914539 This reminds me does anyone know how to fish for stripers in a tailrace?
Anonymous
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>>914527 Targeting redfish, trout, and flounder for the most part
>>914529 I might have to check the elite out
Anonymous
>>914531 >>914535 We are talking about bass fishing.
>>914539 >If you dont have a boat you dont catch much more then a few perch and sunfish Then they are doing it wrong. the baitfish are there and so to are the predators. As far as taste goes, I prefer catfish.
Anonymous
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>>914536 Those are pretty cool.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914543 And where are bass found?
Anonymous
>>914543 No the majority of those baitfish are off shore. That's why I have that John boat so I can catch perch and usually they are 500 or so yards of shore. That's why the key word in my post was "few" as in you'll get maybe 5 perch if you fish all day from your dock
>>914536 I assume the bar bites is and it tangles on their snout? I've never seen anything like that it seems like a really good idea
Anonymous
>>914545 On my hook.
>>914547 Well, I meet my creel limit so I'm not worried.
Anonymous
>>914475 the mc 6/4 is a good reel. I got to demo one on a 3 day trip. good reel, casts good for being a lever.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
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>>914547 Whoops, switched over to my phone to send pics.
>>914547 Gar*
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914540 I've never used them before so going to play around with them and some of the spoted gar that come in to our pole lights at night. We have gotten them to hit some top waters before but hooks ups are rare as hell.
I have had plans to make some for a few years but when ever I sit down to work on gear its mostly cleaning and organizing my bags or makeing new leaders. I'm stoked as shit because I know I would have just kept putting it off and never would have gotten a chance with some.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914549 the lesson here being don't automatically assume when some says they want a fish finder that we all do the exact type of fishing as you.
I think a lot of us forget that too often.
Anonymous
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>>914550 I hope they do, people seem to yolk them pretty damn far on 9 and 10 foot rods.
Anonymous
>>914554 If you want to catch bass, you may want to rethink the boat and extra equipment thing. You need to learn to not use a crutch.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914547 >I assume the gar bites is and it tangles on their snout? Yep, they are a pain in the ass to catch on hooks due to the way they feed and the fact that their mouth is 99% bone.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914559 Or you could admit that not everyones location is the same as yours and that some people LIKE to do things differently than you do.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914559 Dude I just explained to that if you want catch decent bass in numbers higher then one a month then you have to leave shore. Sure I could get kayak but I have a boat so I use that. What you consider a "crutch" I consider a way to have more fun and do better in competitive settings.
>>914560 Most of the videos I've seen of people catching gar they have to let them eat the bait for like 15 minutes before finally setting the hook.
There are a few gar in that one river I learned how to smallie fish in. What would be the second best option if what you have wasn't availible you think?
Anonymous
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>>914563 >people like to ride on boats and spend lots of money on things to sit around and pretend to catch fish ok
Anonymous
>>914565 >Dude I just explained to that if you want catch decent bass in numbers higher then one a month then you have to leave shore. You can from the shore. Learn how.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>914552 Cool man I hope they work. I've been meaning to fish for some of the big alligator gar we have in the Trinity, but I never have.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914572 >"I can catch bass from shore where I fish, therefore everyone can in every body of water" Im starting to suspect a le epin troll.
No way someone could be this slow
Anonymous
>>914574 theres no way he could be serious either bro..
Its the stuff that people without boats, stuck onna bank wishing they had a boat say.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914565 4/0 treble hook on a 15+" steel leader with a free sliding weight or float or your main line after you tie off to a swivel on the leader. Bait it with a live perch at least 4" and hooked in the back behind the dorsal fin. Toss it out and let it sit with just a bait clicker or with the drag set supper loose.
I use this for gar, catfish, bass, and eel. Now comes the hard part.
Catfish will pick it up and slow run with it, set the hook. Bass will make a short but supper fast run then stop, set the hook. Gar will make a fast run then stop wait a few minutes and make a slow run, set the hook. Eel hit hard but then run at a medium pace, set the hook.
It takes some time to know what it is that you have on the other end 3 of them you can just set the hook on. Gar on the other hand will grab the bait and hold it in their mouth while they run to a place they feel safe. Then they start to eat the bait over the course of usually 2-4 minutes. Once the get it into the big part of their mouth and start to swim off again is when you set the hook. Try to soon and 9 out of 10 if it's a gar you will lose him.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914581 The only gar I know about are the ones I see periodicly swimming under the dock. The water is only a couple feet deep right there but I see a gar under or around it a lot. Think I could use the rig you said, drop it down and just sight fish it until I think I have a good chance of hooking it? And do you think a small rock bass would make good bait because there is one little rocky area down the road a little that usually holds a few small rockies
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
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>>914581 Also as a word of caution gar are fucking mean as fuck, slimy as fuck and they have sharp as shit teeth and scales that native American tribes used as arrow heads. Bring a towel and some electrical tape. Put the towel over them and close their mouth, then tape it shut. Hold them the towel and use pliers to get the hook out. It's best to have leather gloves.
Don't fish for them during floods as thats when they breed. Their eggs are poisonous so don't eat the eggs. Google has lots of ways to clean and cook them.
They are fun as shit to catch, they fight hard and jump out of the water. Thier skulls make nice Euro mounts.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
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>>914582 Make a lure like the one TxLizardFag made for me. That would have a better chance of landing one if you know where it is.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>914491 Picture a bait caster with no level wind
>>914495 Depends. My smallest holds 200/20
My biggest holds 450/50 and I want a Penn senator 14/0 (Google it, it's fuck huge) and a solid fiberglass rod, then ill spool it with several hundred yards of either 200lb power pro or 80-100 lb mono
Maybe ill back it with #100 then do an fg knot and do 500 yards of #150 or #200 power pro. Throw a drag kit in there, it will be badass
>>914504 Anything fuckhuge
>>914522 Flip a coin, heads for fenwick, tails for Penn. You'll be happy with either.
>>914572 >stop being different than me Anonymous
this pic is for tenkara anon. what do you think of it? holds line a flies. would it be a good holiday gift for a friend?
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914595 Skid after much thought (and few beers) I have decided to up my game for the trout fishing.
Seeing as most of the bites happened about 10' away from us I have made pic related.
I'm going to put it on my catfish pole and just toss it out then go back to casting with mu ultra light. I'll let some of those fuckers just gut hook themselves and reel them in.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914604 We have a tenkara anon?
Also that is cool as fuck.
Also also sweet doge.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>914608 Cheap
At least try to not stoop to nig teir
>>914609 Tenkara is cool
But I think the west for a it better. I mean imagine your line is fixed at rod length. You can't reach, or let a fish run and you're always stuck at a 10-15 foot line even if you want less. It's cool but it's kinda weeb
Anonymous
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>>914413 Can't find them in straya, have to import and shit will be expensive.
Anonymous
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>>914483 Got a fishfinder for my boat mainly for looking for structure and having the depth alarm on so I don't run into a sandbar in parts of the river I haven't fished before. It's handy but also annoying as fuck when it shows there are fish there but nothing will bite.
Anonymous
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>>914512 A buddy makes shitloads of timber diving lures, will take photos next time we catch up.
Anonymous
i want one of these so fucking bad.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914625 3d print or injection mold of a real cast maybe?
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>914625 that thing is insane
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>914631 >Spend $30 bucks on a extreme life like lure. >snag and bust off on first cast I'm draining this fucking lake.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>914636 it'd be a lot more than $30 for something like that. Cant imagine how insane it would be to be able to create something like that.
Anonymous
>>914629 >>914631 >>914636 >>914643 lol..dude this bait sold on ebay for almost $1700 (4chins wont let me post the links)
he makes a very nice bait but damn, thats some deep pockets..he's hinting to reaction strike to make them offshore to bring down the price but truthfully the person that bought it is probably making molds as we speak. incredible swimming action this thing has, almost life like.. wish i could post the vid here
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>914650 >but truthfully the person that bought it is probably making molds as we speak I would almost gaurantee it. No one in their right mind would spend that much money on (an admittedly extremely well made) lure.
EastBayCAguy !!H7dnYuBYhR0
>>914604 >>914609 I do some fishing with fixed line rods I made so it's sort of tenkara. That looks really cool. It would be a pain in the ass to put larger flies with a lot of material in those little holes, when you close it, the parts sticking out will be bent. For little dries and nymphs it looks great.
Anonymous
>>914629 i'm guessing he froze a frog and then made a mold and went from there. great paint job, not to shiny. for the actual material my guess is probably a alumalite product and microballoons like a lot of other bait makers use for hard baits. pic is of his proto
EastBayCAguy !!H7dnYuBYhR0
>>914656 I'd like to see that with a hook on the back like a savage duck so I could run it in areas with weeds and not ruin the presentation.
Anonymous
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>>914658 yeah i wonder why he put it there also..my guess is ballast. the frog is a slow sinker but has some flotation to surface.
Anonymous
>>914650 There are lure collectors with deep pockets who just want shit to hang on the pool room wall. Friend found a rareish lure that came with a bunch of others for $100 on ebay, he resold the one lure alone for $350 a week later and made $70 selling off the other lures. Owner of a fishing shop here has hundreds of these old yet unopened packages of "blue floppie" lures that were popular in the 80's/90's and went bust, he's in the process of selling the lot to some guy in America for $20,000.
The Lure market is lucrative as fuck.
Anonymous
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this is the first one ever sold and it came with its own box. 10.9 ozs..I would need a new swimbait rod for this one..
Anonymous
>>914661 i believe it! I'm still trying to find a used roman made mother for cheap. cant believe people are buying these left and right for $350 without blinking. swimbait market is fucking crazy it is..
Anonymous
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>>914663 They look pretty neat.
Anonymous
Should I switch to 30# braid for pike and catfish? It has 8# diameter.
EastBayCAguy !!H7dnYuBYhR0
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>>914694 Yeah just make sure you use the right leaders with that. Braid is the best.
Anonymous
>30 degrees >no feeshing I would kill to be a furry right now.
Anonymous
>>914733 I'm starting to think the skid haters are the real furries.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
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>>914654 I have some of those fixed line telescopic crappie poles I keep in my XJ.
Anonymous
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>>914579 >>914574 lol You are not fishermen.
Anonymous
Always wanted to pick up fishin' as a hobby Do you fellas usually take a boat out onto a lake or something to fish? (Dont really want to do this if I start getting into it and dont have the resources) Anyone know of any good spots to fish on Long Island? (ideally central LI, but anywhere will do)
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
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>>914810 You don't need a boat.
I mostly do freshwater and I just find little lakes and ponds in urban and suburban areas. Best ones are in business parks and shit that nobody would think of but you might be trespassing when you fish there.
Anonymous
>>914756 >am a furry >think skid is an idiot but don't hate him TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
It's currently 18 degrees here should I try to go fish?
PepsiFag !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>914824 Goddamn, I thought you lived in Texas. That sucks.
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
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40 degrees here - trying to figure out if I should even bother fishing today. No bites at the pond, the bass have retreated to inaccessible parts of the pond for winter. Stormy conditions have made the beaches unfishable due to heavy debris in the surf (seaweed, driftwood, etc). Pier was nice yesterday but no bites in 2 hours Might give the beach a shot but seems dumb last 5 times I've been there I haven't even gotten a real cast in because the seaweed is so damn bad>sea lion orgy unrelated but saw this at the pier yesterday
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
at least the pier has a great view of town (pic related). I just chilled and listened to podcasts while soaking a bait on one rod and working lures on another
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914829 I think it's even crazier that next week it's suppose to be back up into the 50s/60s. I might go out today with the new rod and cast around a bit for shits a gigs anyway.
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>914837 So you are putting the Black Max on there? Wut rod did you have that on before?
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914841 Yeah I threw the black max on there last night. It was on uglystik.
I'm probably going to get a nicer real and throw the black max back on the uglystik and use it for cats or as a backup rod.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>914850 If you don't get a Daiwa memecaster, you should get one of the ~$150-$200 Shimano reels. I'd be curious to see how you like it because I know you aren't a complete Shimano shill.
I'm down to try one but just seems like the people who shill them are ones who refuse to even try anything besides Shimano reels.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>914853 I'd almost rather it be 100 degrees again
>>914858 I've thought about grabbing one before, but there's always something that stops me. I don't know if it's the way they look, or something about how they feel, but there's something that tells me not to buy it. Like I'm sure they're really good reels. I like the little Sedona I have, but their bait casters have never been appealing to me. Maybe I'll try one out though.
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>914867 I'm kinda the same way. They look a bit outdated and there always seems to be something nicer in the price range.
Anonymous
>>914810 fished with my uncle on his boat out of shine-a-cock LI for a few days over the summer it was a blast. caught lots of fluke and stripers. ive only fished there in the winter once and we caught cod, blackfish(?), seabass and porgys. lots of places to fish and lots of people fishing all along LI.
>>914835 that king tide and the cold front kinda messed stuff up. lots of debris in the water now. had to change the game up and go hunt some dinos.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>914869 Hell I might just leave the black max on there, just buy some of those EVA knob handles, and call it good. It's not a bad reel at all.
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>914871 wtf there are sturgeon in the monterey bay area?
The king tide done fucked my shit up. The structure on every beach is completely different and the debris is unfishable.
Was cool seeing the water so high though desu
Anonymous
>>914867 >>914869 the tranx and the calcutta d, I like a lot.
but for lighter casting stuff i prefer lew's
Anonymous
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>>914874 no, this is sf bay benicia pier.. dinos are all over the place right now from the rains. the storm shut down the striper bite tho' which sucks.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>914875 I think those are a little out of my price range to catch bass lol.
If I do get one i think it'd be a Caenan 150 A, or a Chronarch 150 CI4+ since I'm autistic about the rod/reel colors matching.
Anonymous
>tfw when watching chocolate-brown rising flood waters
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
Tfw when they're about to stock trout in this little pond/lake about 15 minutes from my house What use to catch
Anonymous
>>914899 Idk try a spinner or curly tail grub
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>914901 Good enough for me
Anonymous
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>>914541 Big swimbaits or streamers. Target the upstream portion of deep holes during the day and deeper runs right before sunset
Anonymous
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>>914899 powerbait. yellow and hatchery color.
tiny treble with half a nightcrawler.
put the worm on first then mold some powerbait around the hook. you can inflate the worm if you like to float it up higher if you like.
Anonymous
>>914899 Don't eat them. They have up to 16 times the amount pollution due to what they've been fed.
Anonymous
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>>914881 >tfw when ...when winter is just revving up. At least next month I'll be catfishing and starting seedlings for the next growing season.
EastBayCAguy !!H7dnYuBYhR0
Wish me luck senpai Fishing for sharks/rays.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>914694 Yes
>>914810 Shore /surf mostly
>>914756 They're the only ones bringing furries up
>>914881 Needs more shit to fuck with the water and let fish.know it's there. I like conehead wooly burgers in black with rubber legs for that.
>>914899 Big ass wooly buggers
>>914941 Good luck
Post pics when done
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
I feel bad for you anons where it's like this (or much colder) all winter. The new rod feels good. I think I am gonna get a nicer reel for it tho.
>>914932 Nah I just want to catch some since the bass seem to have lockjaw at the moment.
>>914948 I might break out the ol fly rod
Anonymous
>>914950 I feel bad for you anons who don't get to experience the comfyness of a white Christmas. Sitting inside doing nothing feels great when you know that you will literally die outside.
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
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>>914970 I hate the winter. November and December weren't terrible and the first snow of the year is always pretty. But when I lived up north, I would always get this pit in my stomach the first couple brisk fall nights. I still get it down here when we get a coldfront and the first <60F night. Just reminds me of school starting and terrible weather and short days. And then by February everything is dead and the snow is gray and you just want to commit sudoku.
It's just so much easier to get out of bed in the morning when it isn't -4F outside.
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
Diassembled, cleaned all the components, and reassembled the 712z from ~1975. Next up is to pack the main housing with marine grease, then use my dremel to cut the bail off Will post pics when done
Anonymous
>>914948 >Needs more shit to fuck with the water and let fish.know it's there. I like conehead wooly burgers in black with rubber legs for that. That would be a completely different lure.
Anonymous
>>914932 You're literally retarded. No they dont. The FDA regulates them and they are safe dumb fuck.
Anonymous
>>915008 Are you gunna drill it and slot it?
Go ghetto van staal.
Anonymous
>>914932 >16 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF "POLLUTION" Yeah okay fag. Did you read that on
imright.com or
statisticsimadeupjustnow.org or what?
Farmed trout are safe. So are tilapia. So are salmon. So are bass. So are catfish. So are striped bass. They are all farmed and all sage to eat. Even farmed carp are safe to eat.
You're a fucking idiot. They'd don't feed them lead and mercury pellets.
Anonymous
>>915013 Does no one at all use google?
Anonymous
>>915018 >>915013 >Today, most of the salmon available for us to eat is farmed. Early studies reported high levels of PCBs and other contaminants in farmed salmon – higher than in some species of wild salmon, such as pink salmon. Follow-up studies haven't confirmed this and the consensus among scientists and regulators is that farmed salmon and wild salmon are safe foods. >Farmed salmon available in Washington state markets is produced in Washington State, Canada, Maine, or Chile. Studies on salmon from these sources have shown low levels of organic contaminants in the fish. Strict rules on contaminant levels in feed ingredients are now in place. Changes in feed have lowered contaminant levels in these fish. http://www.doh.wa.gov/CommunityandEnvironment/Food/Fish/FarmedSalmon Anonymous
>>915021 So what’s wrong with the fish feed? Why is it so toxic? In one Norwegian fish pellet plant, the main ingredient turns out to be eel, used for their high protein and fat content, and other fatty fish from the Baltic Sea.
That’s where the problem begins, as the Baltic is highly polluted. Some of the fish used have toxic levels of pollutants, which then simply get incorporated into the feed pellets.
In Sweden, fish mongers are now required to warn patrons about the potential toxicity of Baltic fish. According to government recommendations, you should not eat fatty fish like herring more than once a week, and if you’re pregnant, fish from the Baltic should be avoided altogether.
Swedish Greenpeace activist Jan Isakson reveals some of the sources of all this pollution. Just outside of Stockholm, there’s a massive paper mill on the bank of the Baltic that generates toxic dioxins.
Nine other industrialized countries surrounding the Baltic Sea also dump their toxic waste into this closed body of water. Dioxins bind to fat, which is why herring, eel, and salmon are particularly vulnerable, and end up accumulating higher amounts than other fish.
As a result of being deemed unfit for human consumption, some of these fatty fish are now primarily used as fish food. In this way, toxicity in the farmed salmon is allowed to build up even higher than in the wild.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/30/salmon-fish-farming.aspx Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>914970 That sucks
While you're literally avoiding death by hunkering down indoors I'll be enjoying the sun and the warmth by taking the boat out to do a little drum fishing
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
I've got my reel choices narrowed down to a quantum smoke or the Shimano chronarch ci4+. I'll decide when I can see them in person.
>>914970 It snows here sometimes lol. While that is very comfy, I'd rather be fishing.
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>915014 never heard of this mod post more info
Anonymous
>>915032 lol I wish I had my camera the other day when testing lure action out. The braided line was coming in completely frozen. As it hit the first eye, shards of ice and ice dust were flying everywhere.
Anonymous
>>915032 You would be retarded to get the quantum
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>915035 Kek
>>915036 Why? It has decent reviews.
Also looking at the Daiwa Zillion TWS or an Abu SX
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>915019 >>915021 >>915025 That's salmon not trout and this is Texas not Sweden.
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>915036 >>915038 I have a smoke inshore PT, is that the reel you're looking at?
IDK what anons problem is its a pretty damn awesome reel
I heard quantum has a bad rep from a few bunk models but the one I have is not among them
Anonymous
>>915040 >>915038 Pretty much any brand works better than quantum
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>915040 >>915049 Also, that inshore o
>>915044 Okay so you don't have any real reasons to dislike it? Kewl I hate quantum now
Anonymous
>>915052 Are there any hot girls in Texas who like to fish?
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>915032 >>915038 That Smoke looks like an awesome reel. Those have like unanimously great reviews so I wouldn't hesitate to jump on one of those.
>>915044 >>915052 Kek. One or two bad models from Quantum and they get so much shit. The reviews normally don't lie on reels like that where there are hundreds of them and they have sold thousands.
And you already have the Revo S, I don't think you should get the SX. It is just so similar. Try a different brand so when you are really ready to grab a $400 reel, you will know a bit about all the brands.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>915052 Also that inshore one is pretty*
If I ever get a Gucci blue rod I'm definitely getting one of those.
>>915054 My ex...
But for the most part the hot girls will only fish if their with their dads or boyfriends
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>915049 >>915044 >>915052 oh well for casters they may be complete shit I wouldn't know
their spinning reels are above par for the price level in my opinion
Anonymous
>>915039 >actually trusting companies to have your best interest at heart Just catch wild grown natural fish and to hell with the rest if you are going to be eating them. You are also incorrect.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>915056 Yeah the smoke is what I'm leaning towards the most.
>And you already have the Revo S, I don't think you should get the SX STX*
And the only real reason I'm thinking about the SX is because I've loved all the Abu stuff I have, and it matches the rod. It's the safe bet lol.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>915011 Yeah. That's exactly what I'm saying. In chocolate milk water fish use their eyes last
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
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>>915032 second for Shimano
Anonymous
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>>915060 Their bait casters are shit. Spinning may be okay I don't know.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>915065 I think your tinfoil hat is poisoning your brain.
Anonymous
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
Guess you guys just don't have Nord bloood in you like me. Spent the majority of the day outside in jeans and a light jacket. Not even that bad out. Snow just started back up again
Anonymous
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>>914881 Digging that pattern.
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
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>>915067 I keep forgetting it's the STX. Somebody else has an S on a Veritas. I think main difference is the SX only has magnetic brakes and no Infini system.
Anonymous
>>915096 I just got in some merino base layer stuff and will be fishing once it gets colder next month. Everything is giant ice sheets churning like a blender full of glass right now.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>915126 I dont really worry about what I have on. Usually just shorts, tee-shirt and hoodie as base layer. Then my snow pants, Jacket, hat and some light gloves and Im good to go. If I know its going to be really windy I will wear my snowmobile jacket because that fucker is warm as shit
Anonymous
>>915130 But, it is -15F--20F here in Jan. Everything from "nose to toes" has to be covered when you are out in the wind all day. My beard usually has a mass of ice by the end of the day.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
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>>915132 It was like that here the last two years. It was -7 yesterday. The only real problem is the wind. As long as its not too windy I dont get cold
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
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>>915096 Nah just Irish hill people
Anonymous
>>915034 for old reels drill holes in the bottom of the spool rotor and add drain slots on the side of the spool rotor...
>>915032 played with the smoke at the tackle expo felt pretty good in the hand.
pic not related
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>915210 Oh I see, that sounds like an alternative to what I was going to do - pack it to the brim with marine grease so its water tight
If I really end up liking the bail-less 712z I will go the extra mile and do drain holes etc. Could probably reduce the weight quite a bit too
Anonymous
>>915213 the reel gets packed with grease as well.. if you think youll be wading or swimming. the holes are so water doesnt sit in the rotor cup. and i guess to lighten the reel some.
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>915224 Won't be wading that aggressively, so the only positive that would have is that I could throw the rod in the sand then dunk it in the waves and start fishing again
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915230 What I would do is drill and tap a hole, put a screw in there, if you need to drain it just pop the screw out
Anonymous
Ok what would be a great gift to give a fishing enthusiast? All around freshwater fishing.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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So apparently that little pond they're stocking trout in has only been stocked with bass once in 2009. They put in 10 bass and 30 sunfish. Do y'all think it's worth bass fishing there too, or will I probably waste my time?
Anonymous
>>915255 Did they have to drain your step brother's corpse after all the fire hose water filled him up?
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>915275 Deeper fish finder
its bretty neat/10
Anonymous
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>>915290 >deleting my posts What is this? Reddit?
Anonymous
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>>915275 A BPS gift card unless you know exactly what he wants
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>915275 Rod holder.
Or some Mepps™
But it's hard to buy rods or tackle as gifts unless you know exactly what they like.
Only Yuro Saints Fan !!FAXzsjil+0Q
Only Yuro Saints Fan !!FAXzsjil+0Q Mon 19 Dec 2016 12:55:56 No. 915366 Report >>915363 I need one of these.
Or due to space constraints,im better off making several wall mounts one below the other
Anonymous
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>>914820 >am mentally ill FTFY
>>915363 Most people into fishing/hunting/any hobby appreciate gift cards to stores a million times more than actual gifts unless they specifically tell you what they want
Anonymous
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>915366 The little wall mount ones are cheap
OffLeashSkinwalker !!nmkvwvefTnc
>>915366 I use screw hooks.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915415 This
But I use the ones with the plastic coating
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>915446 >"What an amazing day. I went fishing with my buddy JR Wright, and ended up catching a 10.80-pound spotted bass today. It has the potential to be a World Record. I am really thankful that I have sponsors who make the best gear in fishing. A fish like this on light line took every bit of technology I had in the boat. I was using one of my prototype Daiwa Tatula rods, which is a signature series coming out soon, a Daiwa Exist reel, 6-pound Seaguar Tatsu Fluorocarbon line, a Strike King Lure Company Ocho. I spotted it suspended over 100 feet of water using Garmin Panoptix. Being able to see them out in front of us before we moved over them made it possible. In total, our best 5 spotted bass weighed more than 40 pounds. I hate shit like that. I wonder what it is being like that much of a whore.
>There is also another angler, Wes Roberson who caught an 11-pound spotted bass in January of 2016 that is also pending record status. Kek
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>915396 a friend made rod racks in his garage mounted to the ceiling. kept his seasonal rods and reels there. when he eventually went to use them the mono was perma coiled. we guessed that it was from the heating and cooling of the roof or possibly the constant heat from his water heater? the mono was so coiled he had to re-spool like eight setups..lol
just a warning dont mount them up high where theres heat if you care about them.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>915454 its partly heating up then cooling down that gave it a set, and the rest is that mono stores for shit.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>915275 Like everyone else said unless you know exactly what they want, don't buy rods, reels, ect.
I know what I'm getting for Christmas because my mom wanted to get me an actual present, so I had to tell her which models of rods and reels to get.
>>915447 Cmon anon if some company offered you money to fish and shill their products you definitely would. It's like the easiest job in the world.
Anonymous
Rod travel containers?
I want to keep a couple rods and reels stashed behind my truck seats. That's among tools, tarps, cargo netting, etc. They'd need some robust containers and they'd be compressed by the seat from time to time. What would be the best type? I might end up using some Schedule 2, PVC pipes. Like this paint design.
>>915459 >if some company offered you money to fish and shill their products you definitely would Absolutely not.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>915461 >Absolutely not. Why not? If it's stuff I'm using and would recommend to someone anyway, what difference does it make?
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915461 Pvc pipe is the fastest easiest and cheapest that will protect your rods. Will also protect the best.
Anonymous
>>915464 It is the principal of the thing. If you can't understand why then you are part of the problem.
>>915465 Yeah, it seems that a lot of the hard case ones online are actually PVC. The local hardware prices are far far cheaper.
Anonymous
Literally every piece of """""advice""""" skid shares is pure retardation. Just do the exact opposite of what he says and you'll be fine.
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>915464 Hell I would shil zebco if they paid me to fish.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>915468 So you've never shilled for any product before ever? I mean yeah if you're doing it just for the money that's dumb, but if its products you actually stand behind there's nothing wrong with that at all.
>>915474 id probably be down to shill for Abu, power pro, and zoom
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>915479 If they want to pay me enough to spend my life sitting around fishing in a badass boat. Then I will fucking call turd on a broken tree branch the best fucking rod and reel ever made.
If you are dumb enough to buy it then thats on you.
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>915482 I wouldn't blame you, I just would feel bad tricking retards and such
Zuriss !!S/L/65CPWjy
>>915483 If you watch someone on TV or the internet tell you how great something is and then go out and buy it without research or trying it out. If you keep that product after you find out that it is complete shit and don't return it for a full refund. Then you deserve to be separated from your money.
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
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>>915454 Mono just degrades and has bad memory. You could probably store the reels just about anywhere for a long period of time and the mono will take the shape of the spool and coil and lose strength.
Mono should be replaced minimum every spring and more often if you fish a lot.
>>915426 >>915415 You can buy just the plastic clips for the rod holders and screw those onto the wall or 2x4's as well if you want to do it cheap.
Anonymous
>>915479 We are talking about public product whoring for money. Unpaid shilling can be just as bad.
No, I've never shilled for a product. Shilling isn't just saying that you use a product or even like the product. It is trying to get others to use the product too.
Anonymous
What do you guys think about artificial fish attractors for lakes and ponds?
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
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>>915519 Yeah mang I still don't see an issue as long as you actually like the products you're promoting. I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.
Like
>>915486 said, if someone is too dumb/lazy to actually research a product, and decide if it's want you want, I have a hard time feeling bad for them.
Anonymous
>>915372 Skids half brother died in that Oakland rave fire. Kek
Anonymous
>>915531 They do good for the lake so who cares
Only Yuro Saints Fan !!FAXzsjil+0Q
Only Yuro Saints Fan !!FAXzsjil+0Q Mon 19 Dec 2016 19:55:27 No. 915541 Report Quoted By:
>>915396 >>915415 i keep my rods stored in pieces, not assembled.
All 2pc, and one 3pc surf rod.
So i guess i'd need wider holes.
Anonymous
>>915540 >>915531 They are fucking trashy and use plastic. PLASTIC
Proper wildlife management use old xmas trees. Real trees.
Anonymous
>>915473 >>915291 >>915539 Just fuck him and get over it already, we all know you've got it hot for skiddums.
>>915519 That lure looks fucking beautiful.
I want to fly fish for the lures but literally everything else about it sounds awful.
Anonymous
>>915558 You can fly fish without using a fly rod and all the stuff involved. You just won't be using standard fly casting techniques. Wet flies will be the easiest to use without fly casting techniques because you can couple them with weights and/or floats. The fly in that video is perfect for normal rod use.
Anonymous
I learned that bass, smallest and lmb, aren't native to my state. Weird since you'd think with bluegill being native, something would eat them up. Maybe bullhead have naturally.
Anonymous
>>915572 >bluegill being native Bass and bluegill native ranges mostly overlap. There's a reason bluegill are stocked in places bass are stocked too.
Anonymous
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>>915602 I'm in NJ, and they are listed as introduced on the .gov site and some other sources. Most sunnies are native however.
Anonymous
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>915558 Just rig streamers on a dropshot or a Carolina rig
But fly fishing is a lot of fun
Anonymous
>>915531 They aren't so much attractors as they are artificial cover
Now cover itself attracts fish so there ya go
An easier much cheaper alternative is go out right after Xmas
Pick up as many Xmas trees as you want
Wire a cinderblock to the bottom and toss it in your favorite lake in a good position
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>915671 >>915552 can confirm.
In the process of stocking my grandfathers pond by hand and we dumped a bunch of trees in a corner of the pond to have a good area for bait fish to live and grow. Im going to use my boats live well in the spring and summer to dump a bunch of gills and perch in there.
pic related is the pond. All it has in it now is tiny stunted bull head.
Anonymous
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>>915474 Id sure as shit shill for zebco. I've probably caught 500 fish on my $15 dock demon. Pretty fun loaded with 1lb
Anonymous
>>915632 Thats not a real fish!
Anonymous
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>>915676 Me and the old dude I ice fishing with have been trying to convince this one place to let us dump trees in the lake to help
Ice fishing this year will be fun since water is so low here
Anonymous
Anonymous
Is rod and wheel fishing less effective at catching rainbow trout, or does it matter? I want to bring a friend fishing buy I've never river or lake fished before
Anonymous
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>>915693 It depends. You can always throw flies with a bubble on spinning gear. Stuff like crank baits and spinners can clean up but can also be iffy in really clear water. However even fly fishing is hard if the water is clear and low enough.
If the conditions are good I think it's easier to present non-fly lures for a beginner especially in moving water. I've caught lots of bows sweeping a crawfish crank through a deep run.
If you're fishing stockers and your state let's you use bait then for sure use a spinning rod.
Anonymous
Anyone want to help me find an ice fishing rod for sale online anywhere? I own one and want to buy like 4 more Brand is HT Icelander is model 24 inch long Noodle action Dicks website has them but it's all fucky since I'm on my phone Not sure if it's different on computer
704z shill
>>915255 You're a genius skid! Next time I get water in its cup I'll spend 5 minutes unscrewing screw, letting the water drain and putting the screws back in.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915676 Get trout in there first
>>915693 Depends. Both work well, both are fun, I think fly fishing moving water is easier than regular fishing in moving water but that's me
>>915706 I want to get in to ice fishing.
Anonymous
>>915727 Are those speed holes on the side?
Anonymous
>>915734 No, they're slots. If sand gets stuck between the spool and rotor it gives it a place to fall out. Also they're aesthetic as fuck.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>915727 Not sure if sarcasm or not but I was picturing just two screws fairly large diameter just finger tight. In screw one, screw it back in when it's drained
704z shill
Anonymous
>>915733 Jigging for panfish is stupid fun
Fish after fish after fish for hours if you want
Plus I help teach a kids ice fishing seminar and that's rewarding
Anonymous
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>>915738 >>915742 Yup, speed holes.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915745 Maybe ill get into it. There's a $15 combo at Dicks I can put some line on and go out with. Do I -need- an auger or can I just a hole in the ice with a cheap axe?
Anonymous
>>915749 Thin ice a chisel or axe will work
Anything over 4 inches you're going to want an auger , even if it's only a small diameter one ( I personally pulled a 7 lb bass out of a 5 inch hole )
I need to find more of the rod I'm looking for, it's perfect forwhat I do fishing
Also don't go out on less than 3 inches of good solid ice unless you want to go for a swim
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915759 I'm not sure I'd be confident on less than 4 inches. How much is an auger? How hard is drilling the ice? Do I need anything more than a bucket to sit on, sugar to drill with, and line to fish with? Do I really even need the rod or could I just run a hand line (10-15 pound mono tied off to a few feet of 4 pound line)
Anonymous
>>915766 You might find one on Craigslist used otherwise new I don't think they're too cheap
Drilling holes is easy enough once you get the ha ng of it
But small holes are easier to drill and u less you're fishing for monsters you don't really need a huge hole
I sit on a 7 gallon bucket since I'm 6 ft 3 and the extra height is more comfy for me
If you feel really cheap and don't want to spend the $10 for a rod go get some shark wire and bend the end in a loop like an eye on a rod
Carve a wooden handle for it and use it as a hand line
All my ice rods have shark wire spring bobbers on them
Anonymous
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>>915766 I'll post pictures of some of my shit tomorrow after work
I'm totally down for making cheap shit good etc instead of spending a ton of money on expensive rods and reels
If you do start ice fishing and enjoy it I can send you some hand made jigs and other shit
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915778 What if I just use my 5'6" ugly stuck.ultralight?
Anonymous
>>915676 Weird that its so inactive. Yellow bullhead can handle low oxygen water but could it be the pH of the water thats throwing off the biodiversity?
Anonymous
>>915783 Short rods usually are best , more sensitive
You could probably just use the tip section
Though if jigging for panfish you'll probably want a spring bobbers anyways
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Went ice fishing for the first time today. It was pretty fun. Ended up losing something massive after 4 hours of no bites. Big bummer, but it was my fault for buying a $15 combo. Ended up redeeming myself with a few small crappie. Overall ice fishing is awesome. It puts hair on your chest and leaves you feeling super satisfied at the end of the day.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
Anyone care to guess what's wrong with my new 4 piece reddington fly rod?
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>915786 What if I just duct tape a pen spring to an old glove and just hand line it?
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>915742 Did you cut those with a dremel? I've been trying to remove my bail wire but the damn thing wont hold a charge
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>915733 You think trout would survive in a pond like that though? It's not that small and pretty deep in some spots but it doesn't have any running water flowing into it. Just natural springs I think.
>>915785 The bullhead where put in there by my mom and her friend when they where my age. It was the only species ever introduced. I read online if they are the only species in that body then they will multiply so much that food will become harder to find and they will all stay the same size. Pic related is how big they get. There are thousands and thousands of them in there though so when I introduc other competition they should lessen in population but increases in size.
Only Yuro Saints Fan !!FAXzsjil+0Q
Only Yuro Saints Fan !!FAXzsjil+0Q Tue 20 Dec 2016 13:47:43 No. 915921 Report Quoted By:
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>>915821 The same thing that's wrong with most multi-piece rods, they get jammed or they won't stay fixed into position.
>tfw your rod separates while casting for the 10th time. >tfw you can't separate your rod to stuff it into the carrying case Only Yuro Saints Fan !!FAXzsjil+0Q
Only Yuro Saints Fan !!FAXzsjil+0Q Tue 20 Dec 2016 13:56:31 No. 915923 Report >>915922 Never had an issue.
Dont gorilla force the pieces together, but dont sissy them together either and voila.
I learned the former the hard way...And the rod in question was thin as fuck, so i couldn't get a grip on it for my life
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
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>>915907 /r/ing the Sir Nibblesworth wanted poster
Anonymous
>>915676 >All it has in it now is tiny stunted bull head. What are the species that you know for a fact that are in that pond? Nice pond.
>>915907 >it doesn't have any running water flowing into it. Just natural springs I think. Rain runoff water and a good base to prevent seepage. My pond has a similar setup, but during drought it really goes down; about 1.5 feet or more.
>It was the only species ever introduced. It really needs panfish, if they are not already in there. The food chain should be something like this,
Crayfish>Fathead Minnow>Panfish (Lepomis, Pomoxis)>Yellow Perch>Black Bass-Channel Catfish-Blue Catfish-Walleye>Pike>Musky
You stock in order of the food chain,
forage species>wait 2 years>small sport species>wait 2 years>large sport species
If you mix this up you may need to introduce LARGE amounts of the species needed in order for them to survive long enough to reproduce. You'll need to introduce full size panfish and 8-10 inch black bass so they have the size to fend off the other fish. You can stock larger black bass of course, but smaller than 8-10" will spend more energy evading than growing. The same goes with other catfish, make sure they are as large as the bullheads.
Remember food species, like fathead minnows, are stocked in amounts of 5-15 pounds per acre. Paying for stocking is expensive, but highly worth it. Stocking by hand is fine when you stock lunkers, but only in an established ecosystem.
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>>915923 I think it has to do more with rod material and weather conditions than simply the amount of pressure used. Some rods are just shit in that regard.
Use those rubber foam screens that go under cutting boards to help you get a grip on the rod. Dollar stores usually sell a roll of the material and you can use scissors to cut it to smaller sizes to keep with your fishing gear.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915907 I think they would do okay. But first I'd get a few bigger catfish in there to thin the bullheads. And kill any you catch
>>915922 Never had that issue with any of my fly rods
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>915928 Just looked up what it would cost to have it stocked all at once by a hatchery and lets just say... fuck that... it would be around $9,000 for minnows, crayfish, bluegill, crappie, perch, and bass to be stocked according to the nearest hatcheries website. That's also not including delivery.
>>915956 They have trout available and they would indeed do fine in that pond but they dont reproduce in ponds so if I wanted to keep a nice trout population It would mean I would have to buy more every few years and I dont really like the sound of that especially when the fish I calculated above all can reproduce on their own after being in there two years
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Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>915964 You need to drag a net across there to really see what is living in there. If the pond has been around for awhile, there has to be more than just bullhead. There are ways that fish get introduced into new lakes besides just humans.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>915973 trust me dude Ive sat on the dock and gone around in a john boat multiple times with my entire tackle box and all I've ever caught was bullhead. If I use a worm a bull head grabs it in seconds. I've tried mepps, jerk baits, small drop shots, small grub soft plastic, you name it. All that any of those have ever produced is the same size bullhead I get with worms.
There is a cool brook that runs behind it but there is no way even if there was fish in it they could get into the pond
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>915977 Word is that ducks and shit can transfer the fish eggs too.
You never see minnows or anything in there? Has to be something small for the bullhead to be eating.
And fuck this rain. Already got a late start this morning now I'm just sitting in the truck because it's pouring.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>915979 Nope. only time you can see any fish from the shore is when its really hot out and the all the swarms of bullhead swim right under the surface of the water and makes it look like its boiling. kinda cool to see.
That same grandpa's later wife has a small pond in the back of her property that is a few miles away from this one and it has bass and blue gill. Not sure how either of them got in there but they have been there longer than I have been alive.
Im as astonished as you guys that no other species is in this pond. especially considering how clean and untouched it is.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>915983 Well you've got an established forage for big cats. See if you can't get some 5 pound baby flatheads imported. You only need about a dozen to start just to thin the bullhead so that maybe something else can survive
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>915989 My plan is to get as many sunfish and minnows in there as I can from the big lake in the spring. Probably do the same thing next year too depending on how many I can find. Once I know I have a good established feeder fish population Im going to introduce some LMB
Anonymous
>>915989 I would add invasive species
I know it's just a pond but cant their eggs be spread by birds at all? Maybe it's something rare and only shows after thousands of years.
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>915995 Introduce some big bass in the spring, I bet they'll eat the bullheads
Anonymous
>>915997 would not*
Also Id focus on making the surrounding coast fishable and not lined 100% with foliage
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>916000 Technically flat heads would be non-native, not invasive. Like trout in Ohio
I'd imagine they would have a hard time reproducing in ny
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>916000 why? figure its a lot better for smaller fish to live in since there are a lot of submerged to partially submerged bushes and stuff all around majority of the shore. My uncle built that dock so I can either fish from there or take that little boat and paddle around. It only take a minute or two to row to the other side
I also agree with not adding anything invasive. As much as I would love to add native pike and musky I feel like there could only be enough space for a handful of them and they are a lot harder to catch than bass, even if I am the only one who will ever fish it
Anonymous
>>916004 I meant make the coast, like land, not crowded with trees that make shore casting near impossible.
I know this still sort of affects the food sources since trees over water contribute to fall ins and also the fact that fish like shade. So only do some areas while leaving others completely bushed.
You could open the pond up for public use too maybe. Start by inviting a state's club of fishermen. They'd be giddy to hit anything that was untouched by public use.
You can remain it private and invitational only or sell it to the state later on?
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>916007 fuck dot. Im building this pond up for one person, me. Maybe my kids when I get older. Other then that I dont anyone touching it. Probably sounds selfish but idgaf, if someone wants to fish there is a 50,000+ acre lake just to the south of there
Anonymous
>>916009 I dont see it as a problem, but if it was me i'd feel better if people actually shared the experience with the pond.
It's not selfish but more about what makes me feel happy and proud- showing off the pond to all these fishermen without one.
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>916013 That sounds fun, I would make some arbitrary rules for visitors to my pond for shiggles
>no chartreuse >no memecasters What would your guys' rules be
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>916034 Fly rods, poles, or memecasters with braid only
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>>916034 In reply to that, I was originally thinking about hosting some tournaments or meetings for any fishing clubs.
You know you're not inviting any noobs and only respectful fishermen would be there.
Along with that you can impose rules that they'd understand and comply with.
There's a fishing forum just for my state so if I talked to the forums admins, put together some of the profits, and started some event for the forum's members, it would be a blast.
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>put exotic, elusive, fish in private pond >sell permits to youtubers I can hear 1rod1reel shouting and see jon b's amazing figure holding the fish.
Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
would it be possible for there to be natural spawning trout or any type of fish in a 10 mile stream/brook that goes through the middle of the woods? I really want to get out and fish that area behind the pond to see if anything is in there, cant imagine the whole thing would be empty
Skid !TCEaAwseXw
>>916068 Probably. They might be dinks but If you have a 3 or 4 weight rod...
Anonymous
>>915828 drill the holes first. a hole at each end of the / / / / opening then use the cutting disc to make the slots. theres tut on stripersonline on how to pimp em.
>>915907 buy some bags of fish chow, introduce some baitfish into the pond to balance it off. theyll grow. friend has a tilapia pond and he stuck some cats in it thinking they would keep the pond clean. now he has a pond with some huge ass cats and not so many tilapia.
>>915964 >goes to fish monger >buy 20bs live crawfish @$7.99lb >dump 15lbs of crawfish into lake >boil up 5lbs of crawfish to eat >go to pet store >buy 10 ciclids >3 carp >100 feeder fish >release into pond >wait 1 year >fish >>915983 thats beautiful
>starts jetski.. Redington anon !7N40RVTnT6
>>916070 I just googled the "river" as they call it and it says it holds only large mouth bass. I doubt it though because I also googled the name of my grandpas pond and the same website has bass, perch, and bullhead as species within the water. Not sure where this info even comes from, I assume they are just guessing t b h.
>>916072 its a 4 acre pond so it will take quite a lot of fish to get it to the point that I want it. Maybe by the time im 30 it will be decent
TxLizardFag !6HJ0QLzJJE
>>916034 You'd break my heart with those, but especially the no chartreuse
Anonymous
>>916073 you gotta start somewhere..
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
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>>916085 Fuck birds and turtles
>>916083 Junebug it is.
WormGuy !B1D272lKwg
>>916085 Fuck lol looks like he ate the whole hook
>>916083 heh
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
>>916127 Who was the cunt who never uses chartruese for bass? It's such a great color.
Anonymous
>>916129 It was me kek.
I only ever used in heavy stained water.
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>>916136 You gotta get down on some chartruese pepper Zoom lizards. Those chartruese Gulp curly tail minnows are good too.
Pepsi !n/ZnkB9jUw
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Bout time for new bread
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k
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Skid !TCEaAwseXw
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>>916073 >only large mouth bass. This spring swing black wooly buggsrs in there, size 4-8
Youll pull something
>>916146 Oops