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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 04:45:35 No.917493 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>917496 >>917576 >>917587 >>917688 >>920059 >>920203 >>920230 >>926322 >>930396 >>931342 >>934700

Where can I learn how to turn a hole in the ground into a comfortable, insulated place to rest?

Google keeps giving me man-cave advice. I want to know how to chill in an actual cave, or just take a shovel to the side of a hill to make a hidey-hole, and do it with natural materials, no plastic sheeting or foam insulation.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 04:48:18 No.917496 Report

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>>917493
Then find a cave.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 11:21:25 No.917576 Report

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>>917493

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 11:22:53 No.917577 Report

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 11:23:56 No.917578 Report

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>>917577

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 12:32:52 No.917587 Report

Quoted By: >>917592

>>917493
>comfortable, insulated place to rest?

By bringing insulation with you as soil is a heat sink and insulates as well as your mama sucks dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 12:47:17 No.917592 Report

Quoted By: >>917595

>>917587
not completely true. At first it is a heat sink, but if you manage to warm it up and keep the hole or cave heated then it can be pretty good insulation, you just need the initial energy to heat enough soil up. Think about it like this: soil or rock has a high heat transmission (lambda) value, but if it is thick enough (the hole or cave is deep enough), it's thickness will be so large that the overall heat resistance (R) value will be very high. In some places in Norway they don't insulate house flooring but they insulate the walls deep enough (5-10 m) so the pack of soil under the house functions as an insulator. If you do this it will take a while to warm up your cave but then it works pretty good. You'll need a stretch of isolation along the entrance though, otherwise the soil will transport the heat right around the entrance, but it's probably easier to isolate a stretch of 5 to 10 meters around the entrance then to isolate your whole cave or whole. Think about it...

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 12:52:41 No.917595 Report

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>>917592
But i wouldn't do it in a natural cave cause you don't know if there are any adjoining caves very close. If there is another open space with only half a meter of rock in between your cave then this whole concept wouldn't work

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 16:54:38 No.917688 Report

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>>917493

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:18:18 No.917693 Report

Quoted By: >>917818 >>918449

OP are you the MGTOW that wants us to all live in underground chambers and raise goats ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:45:20 No.917705 Report

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I big part of what I do for work these days is excavation. I can tell you this, if you just take a shovel and dig into the side of a hill, and you don't use any kind of shoring, sooner or later one is going to cave in on you and kill you.

Use a natural existing cave, particularly if in rock.

The culvert idea above would probably work, if you feel like lugging a culvert into the out, and you stick with that less than 6 inches of soil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 22:24:15 No.917818 Report

Quoted By: >>917821 >>917834 >>918551 >>918621 >>928057

>>917693
Why goats ?
Pigs are much better. We should also plant some mushrooms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 22:28:03 No.917821 Report

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>>917818
>fucking a pig over a goat
Anon, that's disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 22:56:10 No.917834 Report

Quoted By: >>918007 >>918377

>>917818
How do you plant mushrooms?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Dec 2016 02:55:01 No.918007 Report

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>>917834
Put em in the ground and wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Dec 2016 03:12:59 No.918018 Report

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>>918007
why wait?
they're already mushrooms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Dec 2016 22:06:45 No.918377 Report

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>>917834
>Take spore print
>Inoculate sterile grain culture jar with spores
>Once jars are fully cultured, add to pasteurized substraight
>Keep moist. Grow mushrooms.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 02:33:43 No.918449 Report

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>>917693

Wha?

No. I can't remember what gave me the thought, but it just wouldn't go away and I was just curious how someone would go about making a cave livable or turning a hole in the ground into a safe place to sleep.

Preferably without artificial materials that'll leave trash or pollutants.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 06:25:28 No.918509 Report

Quoted By: >>918600 >>918634 >>918708 >>926126

Basically this sort of thing was taught to kids back in 1929 before the world turned into a nanny state.

http://www.wikihow.com/Build-an-Underground-Fort
Here's a modern take on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 09:47:50 No.918551 Report

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>>917818
You're an idiot, pigs can transfer any diseases they catch to humans. Goats can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 14:16:03 No.918600 Report

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>>918509
I agree about the nanny state.

When I look at that drawing, I think, here is something drawn by a person with a good imagination and zero time on the end of a shovel.

Let's just say, you had the materials, like 12 ft. 2X6s, heavy treated plywood, bricks, and an excavator to do the digging for you.

You still need to add an air vent of some kind, and a pump, because that thing is probably going to fill with water in many locations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 16:01:24 No.918621 Report

Quoted By: >>920293

>>917818
Try to milk a fucking pig.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 16:29:56 No.918634 Report

Quoted By: >>918667

>>918509

Piling shit on top of your chimney seems like a great way to die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:42:42 No.918666 Report

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>>917496
Unless your name is Ted. Shit gets sketchy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:43:15 No.918667 Report

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>>918634
I think that's around the chimney but we can never be sure it's just a 2d pic. Maybe it's a suicide cave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 20:01:04 No.918708 Report

Quoted By: >>920715

>>918509
Damn that nanny state, preventing me from dieing of carbon monoxide poisoning in a hole in the ground where no-one will ever find my body.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 14:59:34 No.920059 Report

Quoted By: >>920158 >>924089

>>917493
Pic related is what you want. Dig a hole and put a shipping container in it. Shipping containers are cheap and strong. Just what you need to make your cave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 18:02:51 No.920158 Report

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>>920059
Yeah, bury a giant coffin....................................................................................................................

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:35:16 No.920203 Report

Quoted By: >>920439 >>921225

>>917493
Everyone in this thread is an idiot.

If you want real good advice, go to /k/ and /diy/, they have people who actually live underground in homemade tunnels.

I'll even be nice and link a few threads:
>>/diy/1092143

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:47:43 No.920211 Report

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>>917688
>be homeless anon
>build pic related in local park to look all spacey
>convince schoolchildren that you are time traveler

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:05:08 No.920230 Report

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>>917493
You're a bear, aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 21:42:01 No.920293 Report

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>>918621
I do every night.

I'm married.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 00:52:00 No.920439 Report

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>>920203
>go to /k/ and /diy/
Please do not go there faggots, we do not want you. Thanks for the post dickheaded faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:35:12 No.920715 Report

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>>918708
You sound like a pussy that never had fun as a kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 10:02:55 No.920727 Report

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>coober pedy australia

Google it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 03:09:23 No.921160 Report

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http://www.discodavestunnelguide.com

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 05:36:04 No.921225 Report

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>>920203
>wanting to direct normalfags to the glorious kingdom of the molemen

Smite the sunbather, Gouge his eyes out so he may never look upon his burning star again!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 15:50:14 No.922288 Report

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>>917688
Is that a thing? Anyone has some info? My vagrancy senses are tingling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:33:43 No.924089 Report

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>>920059
Not this fucking shit again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:00:31 No.924101 Report

Quoted By: >>924108

Any anon here who wants to build an elaborate dwarffortress like underground lair in his local inner city park and live like rat kings in top real estate that connects to the underground trains via secret gateways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:14:00 No.924108 Report

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>>924101
See this is the sort of dastardly plan I've been waiting for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 00:06:57 No.924254 Report

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Alright opie, I'm here to give you actual resources.
The rest of the thread is right however, putting a shipping container underground is dumb. Just digging down and putting some wood to brace is dangerous as fuck.

But you are essentially talking about making a dugout or a pit house, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugout_(shelter)#North_America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit-house

You can of course make these deeper into the ground and have the roofs covered in dirt or flush with the surface.

Here is a reference video for something realistic and attainable with minimal funds and supplies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B6xR3T37gI

That channel is also good for other small and semi/undeground structures such as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdLAM-wChxY

Some more inspiration for the extreme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtafqbZBESM

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2017 00:19:00 No.926126 Report

Quoted By: >>929128

>>918509
That's pretty much a covered infantry fighting position if you forgot the part where you shoot out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2017 06:04:16 No.926322 Report

Quoted By: >>926415

>>917493
There was some guide that used to be passed around. Basically dig a hole, place support beams, and place planks across beams to hold the dirt back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2017 12:35:00 No.926415 Report

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>>926322
You sound like a structural engineer.

Not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 16:50:20 No.927904 Report

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What does /out/ think of Lamar, the solar cabin homesteader? He seems to know what he's doing

https://youtu.be/9npdnI7dKCg

I'd think that this would be a better option than anything underground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 21:38:15 No.928057 Report

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>>917818
No, goats are probably the best livestock. Followed by sheep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 14:41:16 No.929128 Report

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>>926126
man, we built that shit during basic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jan 2017 19:59:16 No.930396 Report

Quoted By: >>933672

>>917493

https://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/5362817/812175195/name/The+$50+and+Up+Underground+House.pdf

You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 20:56:02 No.930979 Report

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>>917688
dear god what was the story with this??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jan 2017 08:06:54 No.931342 Report

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>>917493
mike oehler's (rip) underground housing instructions, for you

http://www.undergroundhousing.com/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jan 2017 22:10:28 No.933672 Report

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>>930396

pretty awesome, thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:24:13 No.934700 Report

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>>917493
Just wing it and go slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 17:03:53 No.934732 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahBIeVSqnTc

Damn this actually seems like a comfy thing to do.

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