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Opinions on anarcho-primitivism

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 09:35:26 No.940302 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>940321 >>940322 >>940590 >>940601 >>940605 >>942468 >>942608 >>945007

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 10:35:47 No.940317 Report

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 10:49:05 No.940320 Report

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>as if social stratification did not exist within hunter-gather groups

How quaint.

Sorry anon, you can no more put the Genie back innto the bottle than you can put the toothpaste back into the tube.

Anything else is just idealistic cosplay.

T. I'm a wizard.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 10:51:58 No.940321 Report

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>>940302
Capitalist primitivism is obviously superior

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 10:53:56 No.940322 Report

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>>940302
I'm not opposed to the abandonment of some technology, but Zerzan's utopian fantasies are absurd. Are pastorialism, argrarianism, and hunter-gathering all more conducive to human flourishing than industrial civilization? Of course. Did hunter-gatherers work 3 hours a day, have great sex, and structure their societies in a completely egalitarian manner? No.
>>940320
Much less stratification among nomads, but there was at least one nomadic American Indian tribe that had a system of slavery.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 11:01:43 No.940327 Report

Quoted By: >>942688

>>940322
>Native American system of slavery

Yeah, it's called being a squaw and it still exists. Google Reservation Gangrape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 19:09:54 No.940590 Report

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>>940302
>anarchy
>Primitivism

Nature is literally the ultimate fascist (not that fascism is bad)

Now fuck off to >>/pol/

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 19:21:56 No.940601 Report

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>>940302
Is this what pic related advocates?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 19:29:59 No.940605 Report

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>>940302
sounds fun but i like 4chin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jan 2017 21:30:34 No.942282 Report

Quoted By: >>942418 >>945067

Bookchin BTFO primitivists decades ago.

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bookchin/soclife.html

You can't simultaneously claim anarchism and an ideology requiring most of the planet to die off in order to be sustainable.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jan 2017 21:50:17 No.942289 Report

Quoted By: >>945067

used to really be into this stuff but I've kind of given up on primitivist "theory" and just read anthropology/ethnography texts on actual hunter-gatherers. wanting to abolish symbolic thought like Zerzan calls for is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

that said, I'll always be down for a gigantic decline in the human population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:53:11 No.942418 Report

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>>942282
bookchin is a moron, and also most primmiesor anticiv folks see the mass deaths as unavoidable as humanity falls off this technological scaffold we've been building

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 02:00:09 No.942422 Report

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>>942418
>the man that laid the groundwork for one of the only extant large libertarian socialist enclaves on the planet is a moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 02:11:28 No.942427 Report

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>>942422
No. Just a marginalized poopoo head.

Deal with it, you cult based weirdo.

t. I worship "That Which You Do Not Understand." So nanny nanny boboo.

Plus I WIN.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 03:19:36 No.942468 Report

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>>940302
Anyone have one of these in green?

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 04:26:26 No.942526 Report

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anarchism is dumb. Primitivism is dumb. So I christen thee dumb & dumber

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 04:32:01 No.942527 Report

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 05:18:59 No.942547 Report

Quoted By: >>942704

im in. lemme just kill off 6 billion people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 07:54:02 No.942608 Report

Quoted By: >>942621

>>940302
Look, just read Ted Kaczynski's writings. He explains EVERYTHING.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 08:55:24 No.942621 Report

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>>942608
I've actually his complete manifesto and some of his other writings in a book, going to read it after I finish the one I'm reading about based Fred Burnham.

I don't really know what to expect but it should be interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 14:24:54 No.942688 Report

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>>940327
Never happened like the holocaust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 15:25:59 No.942704 Report

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>>942547
If only. Just imagine how much nicer the world would be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 00:26:11 No.944556 Report

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>>940601

No, he doesn't believe in anarchism at all. He's a blood and soil nationalist.

He believes in rural living sure, but he believes in a strong nation, not the abolition of nations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 02:40:56 No.944618 Report

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>>942422
>the kurds needed daddy bookchin's holy texts

they'd do their thing regardless of whether they were dem confeds or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 03:28:35 No.944633 Report

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>>942621
He is a very intelligent person and writes well, but he doesn't have the social skills to be persuasive really.

His Industrial Society and Its Future is very good and pretty much irrefutable. His other writing, which is mostly centered on how the revolution against technology will unfold, is less interesting because he doesn't come off as a guy who is really capable of understanding the masses. He admits as much, more or less, by focusing on the idea that some core group of revolutionaries will have to do most of the work. But this mistakes the scope of the change he is calling for and it ignores the fact that throughout history the more technologically advanced society has dominated.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:14:55 No.944981 Report

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>People are un-ironically defending anarcho-primitivism

Here I thought it was just a big ol meme mocking other forms of anarchism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:17:11 No.944984 Report

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>>942468
>Give us your money for garbage government programs or we will throw you in jail
>P-Please don't shoot me

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:33:51 No.945004 Report

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>>944984

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:39:33 No.945007 Report

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>>940302
>>>/you_know_where/

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:39:57 No.945008 Report

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>>942468
I have this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:40:35 No.945009 Report

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>>945004
>Country torn apart by war lords fighting for absolute control of its lands and people
>Anarcho-Capitalism

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:40:59 No.945010 Report

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>>942527

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:57:59 No.945021 Report

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Retarted.

Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5

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Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5 Sun 05 Feb 2017 22:04:20 No.945024 Report

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now, i might be a libertarian living ina socialist upotia ( nightmare)

but god damn this shits retarded althhough i do love it, i actually know a guy IRL who unironically odentifies as anarcho- primitivism and im not even joking, met him again last week at
>soren geds garage
its just a fraction within a faction of basicly insecure young people looking for a group to belong to so they find anarchism and or communism but then they are in a group again and seek a way to rebel against the herd and then go to stuff like anarko primitivism

need to get up at 06:00 to go to school why the hell am i up right now posting this bullshit on a bullshit site the doesnt matter? i dunno life is pointless i guess.

heres a pic of some olivebread i baked plz r8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 22:12:16 No.945028 Report

Quoted By: >>945030 >>945098

>>945024
You wouldn't have to wake up at 6 in a primitive lifestyle

Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5

Madsen Maskingevær !!o9Rj2xAYif5 Sun 05 Feb 2017 22:13:35 No.945030 Report

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>>945028
i would though

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 22:17:33 No.945033 Report

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 22:32:16 No.945042 Report

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memes

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 22:39:26 No.945047 Report

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>>945030
Why

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 23:04:09 No.945051 Report

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Anonymous Sun 05 Feb 2017 23:54:59 No.945067 Report

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>>942282
Even Ted Kaczynski btfo anarcho-primativism. At the very least he refuted the peaceful arcadian lifestyle meme and all the pseudo-feminist equality stuff. (Spoiler: rape happens in the jungle)

And yeah Linkola >>942289 is on the money basically

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 01:07:06 No.945098 Report

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>>945028
You're right considering I most likely be dead of disease, infection, or thirst/hunger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 02:41:34 No.945168 Report

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I was into Anarcho-primitivism because it seemed to respect the laws of nature. At the end of the day I realized that protecting mother nature could not be done without using force. So I became a National Socialist. Another key thing is that all races are different and am now against race mixing because it would do nothing but mud down the thousands of years it took for my Japanese ancestors to evolve to what they have become, soon we would be nothing but a bunch of browns. I can tell you one thing, a black man ain't natural to the bamboo groves and the cold of north Japan.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2017 11:41:36 No.945996 Report

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>>942688
That's just what I told her.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2017 18:56:48 No.946138 Report

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While I am by no means a fan of the "anarcho" portion of things it does interest me. Technology is pretty harmful to society. As an Evolian traditionalist I would prefer a society akin to the Indo Aryans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2017 22:52:15 No.946948 Report

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>>945009
Yeah, sounds right.

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