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Farming in the Woods

Anonymous Tue 07 Mar 2017 22:36:55 No.964342 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>964351 >>964375 >>964380 >>965264 >>965358 >>965482 >>966187 >>966731 >>967221

Any advice on how to farm inside a wooded area? Plants or animals. No chopping trees.

Let pigs free roam? Could they find enough food?
Let chicken free roam?

Plant mushrooms on logs?

Harvest what little sap the trees have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Mar 2017 22:47:42 No.964351 Report

Quoted By: >>966731 >>966822 >>967369

>>964342
The traditional method was chopping trees. But some trees can be cut in ways that they grow back in useful shapes such as multiple long an thin poles.

But you can always grow a food forest

The other answers are dependent on your climate and what species are growing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Mar 2017 23:20:02 No.964375 Report

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>>964342
Chickens will stay around only if they have a food source to come back to. And you have to build a wood perimeter to keep animals from eating your crop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Mar 2017 23:26:10 No.964380 Report

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>>964342
If you can get away with all that, just grow weeds and trade for needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Mar 2017 23:51:08 No.964394 Report

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mushrooms are easy

plants would need space, sun, and water

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 02:59:07 No.965264 Report

Quoted By: >>965545

>>964342
>Any advice on how to farm inside a wooded area? Plants or animals. No chopping trees.
>Let pigs free roam? Could they find enough food?
>Let chicken free roam?
>Plant mushrooms on logs?
>Harvest what little sap the trees have?

Did you do any research at all before, or did you just ask away without any prior knowledge of agroforestry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 04:36:19 No.965358 Report

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>>964342
I don't know about the other stuff, but I do know that if you don't have a sturdy barrier that completely encloses the chickens (at night at the very least), all of your chickens will get eaten. This includes the top of their run. Owls, hawks, raccoons, possoms, skunks, minks, foxes, coyotes, etc will all be very excited to learn that you have chickens. Killing the predators generally won't work long term, as you'll just create a niche vacuum and more will move in. Some type of bantam would probably fare best as free-roamers, but they won't yield much meat or eggs and will still probably end up getting eaten.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 12:32:34 No.965482 Report

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>>964342
Step 1. Sturdy fences. Very sturdy

Step 2. Secure Hen houses for night

Step 3. I guess get your hens, just be very wary for a start, who knows what is waiting to eat your hens. Ive lost hens to rats even.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 14:29:27 No.965522 Report

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>>965482
>Ive lost hens to rats even.
... It was probably weasels, not rats.

But I guess it's possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 15:14:02 No.965545 Report

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>>965264

Should mention they're mostly spruce trees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 15:18:51 No.965549 Report

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>>965522
I've seen rats kill chickens. They mostly go after eggs and chicks, but if they're desperate enough they'll go after adults. Sometimes en masse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 15:42:13 No.965562 Report

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>>965545
I guess just look up what you want to grow/raise on the site and if the life requirements match up well with the conditions of your spruce stand go for it. If they don't, either don't farm there or modify the site.If you want to keep all the trees you could try planting shade tolerant herbs, or using the evergreen trees to maintain a cool,moist micro climate for some shiitake logs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2017 18:19:03 No.966187 Report

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>>964342
>Let pigs free roam?
Haha fuck dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2017 10:57:50 No.966722 Report

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>>966187
Those things would be gone on the first day and never to be seen again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2017 12:27:53 No.966731 Report

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>>964351
>But some trees can be cut in ways that they grow back in useful shapes such as multiple long an thin poles.

It's called coppicing.

>>964342

No one seems to ask the most relevant question - IS THIS YOUR LAND?

That basically dictates what you can and cannot do.

Also no details on size of plot, geographical location, soil type, or even forest type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2017 12:58:22 No.966737 Report

Quoted By: >>966743

Other faggot here.
Let's say that there is a small, forest behing my backyard that I can use, thing is that it is damp in many places and is unfenced. There is sort of channel with water and further there is a small river (but not sure, if plot reaches so far + it is in deep channel done with stones)
It is categorized as fallow, so tax on it is tiny.
Got any ideas for how I could use it?
Thought about putting some fence and starting raised bed/Hügelkultur and getting a chicken coop there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2017 13:07:11 No.966743 Report

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>>966737
Correction: I actually have a chicken coop in backyard, but I thought of using the chicken land in more economical way, fuckers ruin too much grass in my opinion. Maybe I should get a good way to make hay or something...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2017 14:02:14 No.966760 Report

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>>966722
Depends on the breed and how well you take care of them. Girl I used to dates family had a pot belly pig rescue and they had a bunch of free roamers that would always come back to the fireplace by the end of the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2017 16:18:59 No.966822 Report

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>>964351

First post best post, especially since OP didn't tell us anything. Food forests are an ancient technique, but modernized as a branch of permaculture.

But all that requires at least some forestry. If the forest floor was available for mass cultivation without clearing and replanting, or at least basic garden maintenance work, then A) we wouldn't have just spent the past 10,000 years playing the subsistence agriculture game and mostly starving at it, and B) there would be huge thickets of undergrowth to clear. There's a reason that area under the trees is mostly empty right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 03:22:41 No.967221 Report

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>>964342
I'm the guy who's been shitting up the homegrowmen threads over the last few days. Some stuff other anons have mentioned that I think you could use:
>Rabbit farming
Appears to be able to generate a large amount of meet for relatively low cost. You'd need t either buy or make some gear though
>Wild berries
Apparently will grow pretty much anywhere they're suited, so you could consider planting a few patches

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 10:58:59 No.967367 Report

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>>966722
there always have been pigs in Spain roaming free in the woods, (they aren't wild pigs, acually they are used to produce the best ham of the world) they eat for themselves the acorns of the holm oaks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 11:06:35 No.967369 Report

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>>964351
>7 to 20 years later

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 11:09:28 No.967372 Report

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>>964375
Going to try some of those
thanks breh

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