Finally finished that damn pipe. I'm going to hang a feather from the bowl then take it to the pawn shop or one of the local smoke shops to sell, and in the most likely case that I can't get an offer better than ~$35 I'll keep it for myself or auction it later on ebay or some shit. Also scrapped the pine mjolnir pendant and have been experimenting with some local Ash, slightly harder wood but way better grain and it holds detail and isn't as rotten as most of the pine out here. That wood also bends very well and it was historically used to make bows. Also the deer here have been teasing me so I've been looking up how to process the skin and meat from the fuckers before I bag one. Any advice on that would be welcome, I've never hunted large game before. Also I've found there really aren't that many homeless people in Huntsville. I've met a lot of ex-tweakers that have cleaned up and gotten jobs, but most of the guys on the street are nice and seem to look out for each other, I sometimes pass a dude on a crosswalk when I'm in town and we chat. No one is a bum: everyone's looking for work and most of them are finding it.
Anonymous
>>99164 >deer That is a lot of meat you'll need to preserve. Have that in mind.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
another angle of the pipe
>>99170 Salt a pound for a day and smoke the rest? Whats the best way to process all that in bulk? I'll probably only bag one for now.
Anonymous
>>99164 >deer Unless you get a buyer, build your smokehouse first. Good luck doing that in a legal manner.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
Wip Mjolnir pendant from Ash.
>>99175 >legal I camp miles away from a road that has days where no one passes through. The only time I've seen law enforcement pass through that road was when it was following an ambulance. It took days for our forest agencies to even respond to a report of a grow op near a way busier road in an even less dense part of the woods.
I guess I'll be hitting the internet on smoking meat.
Anonymous
>>99174 >Whats the best way to process all that in bulk? ...Freezer.
For curing meat, smoking should be the fastest method in bulk. Read up very well on how to do it properly. Make sure you kill your deer as early in the morning as possible because you will have a long hard days work ahead of you processing everything.
Anonymous
>>99182 >I guess I'll be hitting the internet on smoking meat. These sort of skills are things people really need to be proficient at prior to going innawoods for long periods of time.
Anonymous
>>99182 are you working that wood green and then dryinh it op? I didnt follow your other thread becuz tldr. I dont know about the validity of the info but I heard once that native Americans (from where? dunno) use to prefer cottonwood bark for small carvings. ive never tried it but the bark on old trees gets super thick and you might try hunting some of that down. in my very limited experience, trying to learn to do fine carving on marginal wood that is not prop dried is a real uphill battle. pic is not mine but is related nonetheless
Anonymous
>>99164 I was hoping to comment on this thread first but I was out of the house for dinner.
A lot of respect for you man, you're doing what I can only dream of until I clear post secondary.
Best of luck, learn all you can. I don't have anything constructive to say as the woods is a better teacher than anyone, but I wanted to give my humble encouragement and respect.
Ill be monitoring your progress
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>99194 If you've been keeping up I'm not claiming to be entirely self-sufficient, smoking specifically for the first time alone with my resources probably won't end very well.
>>99193 Any idea how long the meat will keep in an igloo cooler full of ice? I might just grind most of it up and make a big pot of chili or stew so it will last me longer because I'm more than likely to fuck up smoking it.
>>99200 Yep, though only for my first try with the wood, I cut a bunch more blanks from a timber and cleaned it up to dry for a while.
>cottonwood I'll have to hunt for that, I've definitely seen the leaves somewhere in the forest but its mostly pine, mesquite, sweetgum, ash, and yaupon out here, but if it can hold detail as well your pic I will keep an eye out for it.
Any tips on tanning/processing the skin as well would be appreciated.
Anonymous
You're probably going to lose a lot of that meat if you've never processed and smoked a deer before.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
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>>99221 First for everything right? I did not have the luxury of having a hunter's upbringing, but I hope I can at least get the skin right.
Anonymous
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>>99216 >Any idea how long the meat will keep in an igloo cooler full of ice? If you replace the ice a lot, I'd say no more than 3 days max. The meat will be hot when it goes in and melt most of the ice fairly quickly.
I hunt white tail and 100+ pounds of meat from the smaller ones is a lot of meat. I only get smaller ones since the meat tastes better and is more tender usually.
Anonymous
>>99213 Same poster, I re-read your post and I have some experience hunting, I've been hunting since I was young.
What are you planning to take the deer with? A gun would be optimal as it would cause the animal less pain but if you choose to use a bow you would be much better off buying than making one. I've built a few bows in my time, I'm by no means an expert and I can tell you that it would be almost impossible to make one in under a year from your position (fresh wood needs to season for a year before it is suitable for bow building). In addition to this, there is quite a bit of skill and special tools needed to build a bow, and it is almost certain that your first one will break. If you end up acquiring a bow, it must be over 45 pounds of draw weight to effectively take a deer.
So: gun = optimal, bow = highly impractical
Research the kill zone on a deer and DO NOT TAKE A SHOT UNLESS YOU ARE 100% YOU CAN HIT THAT ZONE. You will get another shot, if you can't get your deer then it wasn't meant to be and it wasn't your deer. Tracking a wounded animal all day sucks, can keep you working through the night processing the meat and will take you far from your camp. You also have a duty to the animal to kill it as efficiently and painlessly as possible. Respect your animal and nature will provide, disrespect and waste and you won't survive. I'm a big believer in karma in the woods. It is a good practice to thank your animal for giving its life so you can keep living. It is also good practice to leave what you won't use from the deer for the wildlife (far from your camp of course) as nature will recycle whatever you leave.
Second the poster that suggested taking your animal in the morning.
But above all, make sure you know the whole process before you take a deer, it would be a shame to have an animal die for no reason because all the meat went bad.
Anonymous
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>>99231 Bro, he's hunted before. He has a gun. He just doesn't have a good way to cure the meat yet.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>99231 >what are you planning to take the deer with Mosin Nagant. I was hitting beer and areosol cans at around 50 yards when I drunk with the Bavarian Backpacker.
>DO NOT TAKE A SHOT UNLESS YOU ARE 100% YOU CAN HIT THAT ZONE I've sat ~40 yds in a bush and watched them come and leave a watering hole they come to at night. I know what times of the day and what times of the night that they're out and about, and where.
Anonymous
>>99240 >I was hitting beer and areosol cans at around 50 yards when I drunk with the Bavarian Backpacker. The way you phrased this makes it sound mythic.
Anonymous
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>>99240 Perfect, you have this figured out.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
Is deer fat any good for melting down for grease/oil? If so will it keep like lard?
Anonymous
>>99264 bear fat is more desirable for that purpose. Do however grab the sinew from the tendons of the deer. It is super strong and when applied wet will shrink and bind things super tight. It is the best string material innawoods in my opinion. Anonymous
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>99266 Not that I'm even considering hunting them any time soon but I've heard black bears are coming back to east texas from louisiana.
>It is the best string material innawoods in my opinion. Been wondering how I could procure something like that naturally.
I think I'm going to try to smoke and tan squirrel a few times before even pointing anything at a deer.
Anonymous
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>>99280 Another good way is to dig up spruce roots and split them, same can be applied to thin dogwood branches. Sometimes it helps to kind of wring the root or branch lightly to loosen the wood fibers slightly.
Anonymous
>>99264 Not really. Don't try to use it for fry cooking! It leaves a HORRIBLE film on the roof of your mouth and is one of the worst fats for any fry cooking I know of.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>99298 >>99264 Huh apparently its called Tallow and its one of the best fats to have in terms of shelf life and can be used like wax.
Anonymous
I have a pressure canner and it is awesome for preserving meats and low acid vegetables. As far as meat goes I've only done pheasant, pork, and hamburger, but you can do venison. its a bit of an investment, but so is a smoker or freezer or ice. I get my mason jars at thrift stores for cheap. You could actually do it innawoods fairly easy if you had a decent propane burner/turkey fryer and some good water. Check that shit out op. Plus you can preserve veggies that you find for cheap at farmers markets etc. After its done its shelf stable. but I would try a few different options for preserving so you don't get sick of canned meat.
Anonymous
>>99164 Yo Weird Texan, I like your threads man and I think it's really cool what you're doing. Keep on keeping on but watch yourself, I would hate to see you get busted by a game warden for poaching (somehow I doubt you have and hunting license and tags) and get a shitload of fines or possibly even locked up. Anyway man I've gotta get to work but good luck and godspeed bro, don't be another massive faggot like McCandless.
Anonymous
>>99305 Just don't eat it, make sure all fat is cut off the meat.
Anonymous
>>99325 You forget a little tallow does well in making pemmican.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>99320 One of my priorities in all of this has been finding out as much as possible all the areas that park rangers are hitting in Sam Nat. Most of what I'm finding is that their patrols are more in the east side of the forest where game is supposedly more lively and the trails are more established, but you bet your ass I'm looking out for police intercepters.
>>99347 Hm, we even have chokeberries around here that were added to that stuff by the native americans.
>>99316 I've been looking into pickling and making fruit preserves as well so mason jars are a given.
Anonymous
we used to just stretch a deer fur skin out nailed to a door...it was about the right size. Scrape the fat off and rub down w salt. Herbs...I used cinnamon, can help too. Use sage out there in texas. as long as its dry and stretched out for maybe 2 weeks...maybe less you'll be ok. you have to fold it around till it's soft...I hear soaking it in oak tree-leaf oil w help the process...piss too, they used to use piss to tan hides.
Anonymous
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>>99756 Brains, Indians used to use that one.
Anonymous
>>99756 the piss and oak tree stuff (I never used or tried it) would be before stretching
Anonymous
>>99737 Then buy a license and don't be a poacher.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>99756 >>99759 >piss before stretching Because the ammonia in it was for sterilizing the skin not for hardening/drying it right?
>>99760 I'm already taking the risk of building structures on public (albeit extremely poorly maintained) land, so I might as well save money.
Anonymous
>>99771 I'm really not sure about the piss thing...It may have been used to help soften as well as preserve the skin after stretching (like the rains thing). I never did it because stretching it and rubbing it down was enough. Never tried smoking the skins either. we didn't want to burn them and we didn't build any type of structure to let cool smoke try n cure them.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>99783 Got it. I'll probably just be skinning some squirrels sometime soon to make some pouches.
I'm also brainstorming ways to trap small flight birds, There's two big trees in a part of the woods that they have been perching on in the late afternoon and I can bait them with cooked or uncooked popcorn kernels. I can't invest in an airgun yet but I can't get over how to make a box trap strong enough to withstand the wind but delicate enough to be sprung by these tiny birds.
Anonymous
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>>99316 don't you have to buy new seals for every new batch?
Anonymous
>>99795 i wouldnt waste my time with small birds, not unless i had absolutely no other choice. they yeild so little meat that it seems a waste if life to kill them for it. maybe doves but even then you only get a couple nugget sized breasts. not worth the effort if you have rabbits and squirrel in the area. Speaking of game have you seen or come across feral pigs in the area? If youre going to be poaching then you might as well make yourself useful and help thin out an invasive species eh? Also practice fleshing rabbit hides before doing a deer. abbit hides are very thin and if you can flesh one without making holes and losing too much of the fur then you oughta do fine with a deer (it just takes a whole day but its easier proportionally. Best of luck from Houston.
Anonymous
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>>100172 *seen or come across signs
*proportionally)
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Small game is too sparse in Sam Nat and the woods in Hunstville proper, I'm going to hike down to the State Park and nab as many squirrel as I can get and try fishing again.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
It drizzled a little bit the night that I got to the state park, and I packed pretty light so I slept in a shower stall of the park facilities. I was awakened this morning by a bunch of metallic rasps on the door, then one of the park janitors opening the door to the stall. I said good morning to him and he nervously swept a little of the entryway for a second and then closed the door. Twice this morning I nabbed a squirrel with my net and some peanut butter, but I've come back empty handed. The first time the fucker jumped real hard up, and then scampered out from under, and the second one I had secure in my net, until a park ranger conveniently stopped near where I was and stayed there for a while. After a minute or two, I non-chalantly let the squirrly bastard go. My bait was exhausted and the squirrels were wised up to my game. On the 15 mile hike home I collected about 2 pounds of ripe dewberries for my troubles, I'm going to get a few more and make preserves as a gift for mothers day, and I've been wallowing in failure at this McDonald's since my arrival. These next few days I'm going to take it easy, I think I've hiked a total of 50+ miles in the last week, and this exlcudes the couple of miles a day I walk for my daily routines; I need to regain some weight and let my feet heal from blisters. I get my first paycheck this sunday, so I'm free to roam again when that comes, and finally start working on my abode in Sam Nat.
Anonymous
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>>102066 >"good morning!" >"y..y.you too" Anonymous
>>102066 >janitors and rangers spotting you >These next few days I'm going to take it easy I hope by that you mean "only five-mile days" not "stay in one place".
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>102352 I'm probably going to stay in Hunstville proper till I get my paycheck, there's a regular open mic night on Thursdays that I want to check out because at some point I'd like to play, and tonight I'm going to try dumpster diving at some bakeries and pizza joints.
On an unrelated note I've been trying to identify this vine for a few days and found out its Greenbriar. Its everywhere in east texas and just about every part of the plant is usable; namely it has a tuber that is calorie-rich and full of vitamins and the tips and tendrils are edible raw. Tubers/roots from relatives or specific subspecies were also used to make sasparilla (old root beer).
Anonymous
>>102360 So youre dumpster diving because you dont want to be a leach?
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>102693 Even if I wanted to, I don't qualify for SNAP for several reasons. One of the dumbest things about that program is that even if you have no income, if you have more than 2k in a savings account anywhere you are denied, but if I owned a 100k home and a luxury car and had regular income below ~200 a month I would qualify. That kind of welfare isn't welfare anymore, its "pay for my children and free up my expendable income so I can get netflix and buy designer clothing". As long as I have a savings account towards that land I plan to buy in the future, I will never qualify for food stamps.
The dumpster of the pizza place had 5 fresh pizza stacked on eachother that were still a little warm, I nabbed the one in the middle that had no contact with all the other filth in the dumpster, 10/10 gonna hit that place every night I'm in town.
Anonymous
>>103289 >The dumpster of the pizza place had 5 fresh pizza stacked on eachother that were still a little warm, I nabbed the one in the middle that had no contact with all the other filth in the dumpster, 10/10 gonna hit that place every night I'm in town. Damn that's lucky as fuck man.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>103443 The place was Little Caesar's, part of their business shtick is that they always have "Hot N' Ready" pizzas for $5 dollars, so at any given time they need to have some pies already made, even up until closing. They throw the rest out.
Bakeries have a similiar practice in that they will have boxed baked goods like cakes or donuts that they are required to throw out at the end of the day so they can advertise their goods as fresh.
Anonymous
>>99771 The "not poaching" thing is for the deer population's benefit, not yours. Poachers fuck up wildlife statistics, sometimes really badly, and can lead to improper management that can fuck up entire ecosystems.
Just get a license. If you're in state, it should be under 100 bucks. Can't afford that? Get a small game license.
You are going to be wasting a hell of a lot of deer meat, anyway, with what all you're talking about doing. Taking squirrels, rabbits, etc, is much more practical for you, because you will waste MUCH less, and you can actually afford a small game license. Plus, their hides are much easier to tan.
Listen, butchering a deer is some serious fucking work even if you have a spot to do it, all implements and tools, etc, AND experience. Small game is easier and much more forgiving of fuck ups.
Anonymous
>>103449 I think if I worked there, I'd invest in a deep freezer and take them home and freeze them for later. they'd not ever go to waste then. A lot of bakeries now have a program where they give the extra bread to charities.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
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>>103502 Don't worry I won't be hunting deer any time soon, at most I'll be going for feral hogs or coyote.
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>>103502 >Listen, butchering a deer is some serious fucking work even if you have a spot to do it, all implements and tools, etc, AND experience. Small game is easier and much more forgiving of fuck ups. +1
Anonymous
>>103449 I work at little caesars and we got a crank order for 25 pizzas, and my boss didn't take advance payment.
Every pizza went in the dumpster, made me sick
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>>103549 >my boss didn't take advance payment. Complete naivety.
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Repeated dumpster diving has been sucessfull, have been getting by in the city on a regular diet of thrown out pizza and danishes. A correction on a plant that I purported to have identified earlier, the flowers I've been finding (and collecting for my garden) are not "Slender Verbena) but infact are mutt-mutant hybrid of similiar Brazilian flowers with a local Texas strain of something else are labeled Glandularia or "Mock Verbena", though their true taxonomy remains hazy because of multiple crossovers recently discovered in their genome. Went to see some bands play outside the courthouse of Hville today, and its nice to find the town has a indie/ "alternative" scene. I suceeded in my objective of finding a local herb connect, and in the process made a few friends. I overheard some conversation about smoking and randomly approached the guy, who promptly gave me a contact, and later I even met that contact. I told them my story and they were extremely entertained. Was a good day to be homeless, though I'm itching to finally establish my abode in the forest next week.
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Also if anyone cares, I also met some dude from /out/ who also lives in Hunstville on the Dual Survival stream I was watching at this mcdonalds and accidentally made dewberry wine yesterday by leaving the juice in my car over these last few days of the 90 F sun, slept really well last night.
Anonymous
>>103504 >A lot of bakeries now have a program where they give the extra bread to charities. Yes, but not the sweet stuff.
I used to work doing a ``bread run'', taking baked goods to homeless shelters.
We weren't allowed to take any of the sweet breads because of lawsuits, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's now extended to meats.
Lawsuits because somewhere some homeless person got cavities (I guess none of them can really clean their teeth when innacity and no money), or something happened like that.
Where I am they either throw these perfectly fine pastries and other sweets in the rubbish or give them to a disposal group that charges to take the bread, then sells the bread to a piggery.
Anonymous
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>>105833 It's sad, but lawsuits have fucked up a lot of good things. My local bakery gives a lot to charity, during bear bait season she lets guys have all the sweet stuff, she'll sell it dirt cheap any other time, or give it away.
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>>105833 I think that is the time when you start selling that sort of thing for 1 cent per bag full. It is still a sale, still being sold in the bakery, no one can sue, anyone can buy and do whatever they want with it.
That's the only loophole I think you'd be able to get away with.
Anonymous
Since you seem handy with a knife, you could carve some kitchenware and sell it in town. I've been carving spoons and spatulas and so on for two years now and people always ask to buy them from me. You can get by with just a hatchet and a knife; although, a crooked knife will make carving the bowls of the spoons easier. Pic is two jelly and jam spreaders I carved from black cherry.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>106157 Any tips for smoothing the splits between prongs in a fork? It always gets very splintery.
Anonymous
>>106170 A mandril to open the hole, carefully carve to that. It should start smoothly enough and be easy to finish out.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>106178 Can a drill and sandpaper on a drill do the same thing?
Anonymous
>>106181 Yup.
I prefer the challenge, but to each his own, and all that.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
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>>106208 I just don't own a "mandril" or a mandrel for that matter.
Anonymous
>>103502 Two years ago I really got into my butchering and smoking and general dealing with whole animals and I found that the first time I butchered a whole deer, it went surprisingly well. It was big enough that however I screwed up, I was still left with useable amounts of meat. Rabbits and squirrels etc. were not as forgiving. If you slipped with the knife, you could end up with near unusable pieces of meat.
All you really need for a deer is a filleting knife and a hacksaw (well cleaned).
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
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>>106257 Its the smoking that I'm going to screw up, I don't have access to a freezer yet.
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Odin carving I'm boring out to make into a pencil sharpener for my little brother.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
Every tree ID site on the interwebs has failed me, it looks just like Ash with the exception that the leaves are alternatively attached instead of opposite, and the stems show a reddish hue on younger branches. Also the leaves are not as dark as they appear in this photo, and the tree itself was 15 ft tall, would greatly appreciate if anyone has an idea what tree this belongs to.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>107041 need more pics, perhaps mountain laurel? with only those pics all you can say is that it is a smooth lobed alternate leafed tree (shrub? 15ft isnt tall and what is the brantching habit?) that has reddish to white on young stems. that leaves a ton of shit. if you had bark pics and or flowers or fruit or seed you could get closer. habitat is important too
also pls respond I love plant id
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>107882 I was stupid so I sold my camera and its a trip to lug my webcam and laptop out where it is, the bark looks like this. There is a distinct , broad heartwood that is a dark reddish brown when you cut it open and wet the sample, the sawdust and greenwood is as yellow as pollen, and the sap is white. I am in East Texas.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
First hacks at a more European-style pipe, I'm going to thin out the stem and then drill all the holes required, maybe steam the stem to bend it a little more. I'm still deciding whether or not to finish it or just let the wood breathe, the wood is an ivory white that really shines through when you sand it down and keep it clean, unless someone knows any wood finish that doesn't leave a shine and leaves the color unchanged.
I'm also collecting more decorative woods in the forests around Hunstville and playing with natural dyes (greenbriar berries, dewberries, piss, charocal), I didn't know until yesterday that Red Cedar makes great cabinetry and apparently wards off termites and moths because of the oil it contains, it also has a very distinct grain and contrasting coloring and theres large trees fucking everywhere. I might be offline for a while until the weekend because I can finally make it back to the National Forest with my first paycheck and can start working on my home(s).
>>107861 I don't know how that is related but this is the superior Tim and Eric song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7u9hP4r1S8 >>107882 Also its definitely not mountain laurel or any other shrub for that matter because I found more of the specimen and I've seen some grow in excess of 25 feet.
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Hey Texan Been lurking in your threads for quite a long while now, I think I started here on week 2 so probably since you started making these threads. Just wanted to say you're cool. That's it.
Bavarian Backpacker
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>>99240 Pics, it DID happen ;3
>>99244 (It WAS °_° )
Sorry, i originally planned to post that stuff yesterday, but then amtrak failed me with no w-lan on their train. Still, prepared the pics already. Also gonna do my big-bend in another thread later on. Anyways, yeah, we did shoot with that rifle and i even managed to hit the stand for the bottles ;o
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I would have a film of the can being hit, because we thought it ought to be more awesome than it turned out to be - still, no idea how i could upload it anywhere quick w/o bothering about registration and stuff, so the pics ought to suffice for now.
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Just some pictures i took on the first morning - somehow i did not think of taking some before that.
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( now, why did the board stop posting my name? Oh well)
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A picture of the camp - with Weird Texan himself truly. And yeah, in case you dont remember - i asked if that shot was ok to post later on and you agreed. Not like you can see anything important anyways, but hey.
Bavarian Backpacker
A picture of our "shooting range". Oliver hit the bottles and - as seen later on - the can. I hit the "stand" out of limbs. Oh well, 4th weapon i ever fired will stand as my excuse for inability ;3
Bavarian Backpacker
A pic of pretty much our inventory that time. Don't fail to notice the 1.75 litre bottle of 100 proof southern comfort. Fun times - and cheaper than buing smaller bottles too. Also, the way-too-hot-for-me-texan-chili in its pot is partly to be seen. And some of the Shiner bottles. Do i need to mention the rifle? No? Great ;3
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As we made camp close to a tree stump filled with fire ants, we did the obvious. Fight them with fire, by trying to smoke them out or stuff. Even after we set the trunk on fire, they did not want to die. After the second night we concluded that we would need quite some more time to kill that nest and gave up.
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And some, point on the first evening a bottle wandered into the fire. Seems like we did something right with it, as this was the result to be seen next morning. Yep, drunk antics ;3
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When we made our ~20 mile hike? (according to Texan at least) to get some fresh water, we came to the county border. It being so obvious quite struck my fancy. I mean, c'mon, switching companies and material straight on the border?
molot0v !CocKTAILBg
>>108736 >you drinking SoCo I find this hilarious. I still remember the look on your face when I told you that Yuengling was brewed in Tampa.
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And there is where we got our "fresh" water from. Texan did not even bother to boil it or anything - i pretty much avoided drinking it until the booze that evening made me too thirsty for that. Nothing happened to me, so i guess it was drinkable afterall, still not worth the risk imo. Or rather, as soon as you settle down you really should think about one o' those water-filters out of stones, sands and stuff. You - or pretty much all of us - ought to know what i mean.
NR-40guy !!NXnebje9w4q
Oh hey Bavarian, you've made it to Texas now? Jacksonville from florida here. How was shooting the Mosin?
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>>108742 Oh well. And yeah, at some point i wanted to try out something new, because always jacky became a bit meh. So i picked Southern Comfort on a random basis - and it was great. So great in fact, that i drunk 3 bottles in the time of a week. Me having the luxury of having it "realy ice cold" all the time because of winter on my window-sill might have contributed to that, but i regret nothing.
Bavarian Backpacker
>>108746 Quite a lot less recoil than i would have expected, but the irons were a tad more difficult - or odd - for me. Still, if you look at
>>108732 you can kinda judge what distance we were shooting at. So i did not too bad i guess ;p
Bavarian Backpacker
And here are the conchiladas (did i get that right? ;3 ) that Texan made for us, right next to the lake where we got our water. They were quite tasty with all that fat and sugar - and strawberry, obviously -, especially after said hike we made there. Back we luckily were able to hitchhike, thou the girl would not get off the phone all of the time, even calling multiple people, telling them about the situation - and us about her "police dad". Guess that it was Texans fault, for i had no such problems when hitchhiking to big bend ;D Right, that would be all pictures of worth that i took. As usual, i only do some as a kinda "memory mark".
NR-40guy !!NXnebje9w4q
>>108749 Yeah, I know what you mean, the Mosin recoil is really hyped up. The first time I shot one I was like "That's it?" Also, how did you do in Gainesville? I'm sorry couldn't stick around when dropping you guys off there to make sure everything went well, but I had something I had to get to quickly.
Bavarian Backpacker
>>108759 Oh, Gainesville was no problem. Said anon let me use his w-lan for a few minutes and then i was able to walk to a bus-stop and soon enough was at the greyhound. Thou thing was that it was closed because weekend, so i wasnt able to get a ticked. Thusly i settled into a shabby knights inn for the day and did quite needed laundry before taking off. So, quite good a normal day for my traveling standards.
NR-40guy !!NXnebje9w4q
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>>108767 Ah, good to hear.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>108758 They're called Kolaches, after the slavic koláč sweetbread, other inbred uneducated southern folk call the sausage ones "Pigs in a Blanket". You hitchhiked to big bend? Awesome, I'm proud, it was his first time apparently when we got a ride from the policeman's daughter. Did you stop by the Devil's Den over in Big Bend?
>"Um..eh....Happy Trails Cowboy! I am ah loohking for Times Sqware?" Bavarian Backpacker
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>>108777 Ah, right. That's what they were called. (Damm Foreigners and their freaking foreing meals ;P )
I went to the Chisos Mountains and did a 4 day 3 nights "hike" there. Or rather, set up camp and then hiked in the surrounding area. I'll gather my memos and will post a thread in a bit i guess. Not like it's anything special, but it was the most-recommended when i asked in my old thread...
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>108053 finished product of this
chucklefuck
>>109562 nice. how do you bore out the stem?
Anonymous
Hey dude, I was in your other thread, I camp at Sam Nat all the time, I just wanted to tell you to check out fried chicken joints, I used to work at a KFC and you have to keep fresh chicken out constantly. Talk to them, explain your situation maybe and try to work out a deal where you show up at closing time and pick up a bucket of chicken, we used to give it to hobos and dogs and my uncle so give it a try. Also your pipes are pretty uggo sorry.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>109562 Drill it thick on the thick end, drill it thin on the thin end, I bought a wall-rechargable drill for a $20 with a coupon that I hide in my backpack and charge on the fly. I actually had to over-extend my bits on this last one because I didn't want to chop up the stem like I did with the totem one.
>>109632 Thanks for the suggestion, but I have money now, though my final dumpster dinner was epic: sushi, warm french bread, and hazelnut cake.
>>109632 >your pipes are pretty uggo I appreciate the honesty, its my rough cuts isn't it? In my defense I'm using the broad blade on a leatherman multitool for everything from cleaning the wood to detail work.
chucklefuck
>>109649 Hahaha a fucking drill. i was expecting some bushcraft hocus pocus type shit. But yeah cool beans dude.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>109618 >>109618 Drill it thick on the thick end, drill it thin on the thin end, I bought a wall-rechargable drill for a $20 with a coupon that I hide in my backpack and charge on the fly. I actually had to over-extend my bits on this last one because I didn't want to chop up the stem like I did with the totem one.
>>109632 Thanks for the suggestion, but I have money now, though my final dumpster dinner was epic: sushi, warm french bread, and hazelnut cake.
>>109632 >your pipes are pretty uggo I appreciate the honesty, its my rough cuts isn't it? In my defense I'm using the broad blade on a leatherman multitool for everything from cleaning the wood to detail work.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>109665 Yeah don't think I didn't try it, glad I just invested in a drill, my pipes would be much uglier (or broken) with the hand drill, especially for longer pieces. I'm also going to use the low settings on this drill with a cobalt bit for once I get into forging to put holes in metal for the handles of knives or for metal jewelry.
For large holes there is a very slow method I learned when I was a kid. Native americans made canoes using the burnout method by building a fire in the small pit of a log, deepening the hole as the fire ate down the wood. You could probably do the same in place of drilling wide, shallow holes, but it'd be pretty impractical for drilling pipes.
chucklefuck
>>109673 >>109673 yeah i figured you woulda heated up a steel rod til it was red hot and painstakingly burned your way through bit by bit or somethin like that. i actually made a blowgun like that as a kid but it was made out of bamboo so i was only burning out the inner plates that divide the pole at the nodes.
Anonymous
>>109666 It's not too bad really, I was looking at an earlier pic. Might be down to chill or something if you go back towards Sam Nat. Have a drink and a smoke or something.
>>110102 >Might be down to chill or something if you go back towards Sam Nat I'm running back and forth between there and Hunstville right now doing research on the public wifi for my new home, dropping shit off, and transporting materials from my campsite in town. Hit me up with an email, I'm underage for booze but I recently got the herb connect and we can shoot the shit next week, I'll be going home to Houston for Mother's day this weekend to visit my mom who's probably been driven crazy in my nearly 2 month absence, but I'll be back Monday.
Speaking of which anyone have anyone have experience making flat wood planks with a hatchet/saw from logs? I know that shit is usually done with chainsaws.
>>107041 >>108037 Still hoping for plant id on this tree, I have a thread going at
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1311006/ Also a mom is playing farmville at this mcdonalds and yelling at her bored, overweight kid at the same time its really making me angry.
Anonymous
>>110123 >making flat wood planks with a hatchet/saw from logs cut down some spruce trees,and saw those bitches up(you get maybe 1 2x4 per tree, the rest are all 2x3-2x1s). i also hope you like sawing, and resharpening your saw a lot.
you should probably contruct yourself a workbench to do this on first.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>110175 >need a workbench to make flat planks >need flat planks to make a workbench >theres a hole in muh bukkit, dear liza I'll nab some thrown out planks.
Anonymous
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>>110178 your bench doesnt have to be straight, its just for giving your leverage while you saw up your logs.
and yeah construction sites are goldmines for leftover shit.
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the tree you are trying to identify is an elm tree
Anonymous
>>110123 dude do go choppin down trees n shit just to make an illegal shelter, scavenge unwanted shit from construction sites or try and get your hands on some pallets maybe? idk...
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>110293 Don't worry there's felled lumber everywhere elsewhere in the forest, the logging industry is all chartered up in Sam Nat, and green wood is no good to build with.
Anonymous
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>110318 The (hopefully second and final) design of my house has been planned and tested over the course of a month, though I will still need a supply of wood. There's a defining feature of it that is especially novel and a bit humorous, I'll let you know if this design is livable/stable and if I'm not too paranoid. BAVARIAN YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. STRENG VERBOTEN ZU SPRECH VON DIESA, YA HEAR?
Anonymous
>>110332 >novel and a bit humorous its gon b shaped like a dick
calling it now lads
Anonymous
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>>110123 Look up Dick Proenneke, he goes through the whole process of building a cabin in the woods, including makin planks.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
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Well it was just about flooding here in Sam Nat up until about 2 hours ago, basically no progress made towards building my home except that I've cleared the area for construction, dug out some of the soil for a foundation, and transported building materials to the site. I'm heading down to Houston for the weekend to see my family for mother's day, there's also a harbor freight overthere that I will be checking out since there isn't one in huntsville, will be back Monday.
>>110351 >implying phallic architecture is anything novel. Anonymous
Cool pipe. I make mine from branches and carve them green. I use a piece of metal fence sharpened at the end to bore the stems out. I clamp the bent stems down flat and drill them out. i bore the pipe using a spade bit. Then I just toss the pipe into a paper bag until it dries (slows the drying process preventing cracks). I oil the pipe with olive oil. This pipe is sugar maple.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>110015 I did this with a nail once to make a curved stem for one of my late pipes. I'd post pics, but I was underageb& when I was busted for smoking weed, and my collection got burned.
Anonymous
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>>111696 skogkniv?
I just watched your video, and finished my own pipe today. It is made using reads and stalks from the local plants. It is drying right now after being fire hardened (wood would be too soft otherwise). I prefer the stalks because when green, they can be twisted into all kinds of fantastic shapes. The current one has a simple bowl, but the stem has bits that come off and wrap around it.
I'll see how well it smokes after some carnuaba waxing, and a few days of drying.
>captcha: smoking ilyzenea hm, never heard of that tobacco. guess i just figured out the name of my own blend.
Anonymous
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>>110178 get ahold of the Foxfire book, part of the cabin-building-with-hand-tools-section explains how to hew a log and split it into even planks. In case you can't get it, though, the gist of what I remember is this:
>Use the saw to make even cuts into the wood along one side, just as deep as needed to square the log >use the axe to split off the pieces >do the same on the other sides you have a square log now
>using wooden wedges, start working them in along one side to split off a plank >repeat as necessary It's a shitty explanation, and I may not have remembered it correctly, but you seem smart enough to figure it out
Anonymous
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>>99164 still looking for a book on how to build a cabin?
this book has all of it and more(it covers most outdoor living skills and gives resources to go more in depth), you may need to download a special book reader for it though(the file i found was .epub)
Back to Basics: A Complete Guide to Traditional Skills, Third Edition
by Gehring, Abigail R.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
Back in Hunstville, this week I'll be busy working on my house and all the other parts of my homestead; garden, forge, storage etc. I'll post pic updates as they happen. I'm going to go back to Houston next week to get my wisdom teeth removed.
>>111696 >>113386 That's some beaut rounding on the bowl. I'll definitely be trying that method for longer bent stems.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
I'll go ahead and spill the beans on my home design, its going to be a dugout, project codenamed "fag end", the digging is going really well, soil is softer than I expected at deep levels, as far as I know I'll be able to expand as large as I can waterproof it and as deep as I can keep going through this layer of clay with a mattock. I'm debating whether to keep my garden above or below level. I'm going to have to fence it off with nettle or barbwire either way to keep critters out and for camouflage, but its going ot be way more visible if the bottom of it is above ground, but it will get way more sunlight that way, though the canopy above me isn't too thick. If I place it below ground the barrier will be at or just above ground level. For now I plan to plant potatoes and beans, with success I'll be adding sections for cucumbers and other vegetables that go well with this loamy soil.
Anonymous
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Into the wild 2
Anonymous
>>103449 That's a fucking waste
molot0v !CocKTAILBg
>>114092 Aren't you going to be out of commission for at least a few days? Also won't you have to rely on someone to drive you to/from surgery?
Anonymous
>>115227 they also can't give that shit away to the homeless due to liability issues.
Anonymous
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>>115248 Sadly it's true, greedy fucking people would love the chance to sue.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>115133 and you carve pipes? are your feet covered in fur by any chance?
Anonymous
>>115133 This sounds super cool OP, looking forward to any pics you post of it
Anonymous
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>115232 Yeah from next Tuesday to Friday. I'm driving down to Houston and then my mom is driving me to and from surgery.
>>115304 I've thought about making Flets as well in another area of the forest where the trees are larger, probably for reacreation rather than residence.
Anonymous
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Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>115398 >>115133 Some progress from yesterday, as of this morning the hole is almost twice as big.
Here's ~12 hours of digging, excuse the shitty panorama attempt and the rough annotations, the red dashed line was the ground level when the photo was taken, and the red line is the planned perimeter of the dugout walls. To get a sense of scale the shovel on the right side of the photo is ~3.5 ft in length.
I dug out quite a bit more this morning even beyond the red line. After preliminary digging is done, a dirt slop will be piled outside the edges to about a foot in height, the walls of the hole will be smoothed to a right angle, and a little less than a foot of clay from floor of the pit will be removed for a total of 4ft below ground level. From there I'll build up wooden and dirt walls and the roof from the slopes on the edges about 3 feet up.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>116450 Mattock for digging and larger root removal, shovel for removal of dirt from the hole, and axe for chopping up smaller roots or stuff thats too springy for the mattock.
Some questions and concerns you might have
>You're gonna be fucked when it rains/floods/gets humid Small, inconspicuous trenches will be dug around the perimeter to direct rainwater away, this is built on the higher grounds of the forest, this dirt is packed with clay that handles moisture well, and pipes will be laid inside the dirt of the roof to relieve structural stress during heavy rain. The interior of the dugout will be lined completely with a large tarp, then wood walls that will be also be waterpoofed, and the roof will further be reinforced by interior beams dug into the dirt and supported by beams in the walls.
>What if someone finds your house? This is in a pretty secluded part of the forest. You have to get through quite a bit of bush to even try to find it and its impossible to get to with even a small motorized vehicle like an ATV. For further insurance I am planting bushes and thorny vines around the area to keep people and critters out. To the unsuspecting eye the structure will come across as a hill that is only 3ft at its peak. Activties other than sleeping such as cooking or bathing will be done at other sites in the forest.
>Won't it get really hot/cold? One of the benefits of dugout construction is the insulation. Dig a deep hole and stick your hand in the soil to understand what I mean. This was the preferred construction method for permanent structures of settlers and natives alike in the American Southwest for these reasons.
Anonymous
>>116453 You are way 2cool4me, bro. How long have you been doing this?
Anonymous
>>116453 So its basically a covered trench?
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
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>>116483 Next week will be the 2 month mark.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>116626 A trench is defined as being deeper than it is wide so no not technically, but sure.
!DAVEYNK/fU
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Thread on /tv/ 404'd but I'm going to keep an eye out for the rest of your threads bro. Keep fighting the good fight.
Anonymous
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>>99164 Probably seems like a stupid question, but how did you put the hole through the stem of your pipe. I'd really like to make my own but don't really want to buy a 15 inch drill bit to do it.
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I'm pretty new to /out/ in general, so this is the first thread of yours I've run into but I think what you're doing is pretty neat. I hope you're writing all this stuff down someplace where you can get at it again, it'd probably make a pretty interesting book. Anyway I wish you the best and will be keeping an eye out for updates.
Anonymous
>>118042 drill from both ends
Anonymous
Hey OP, have you run across many good streams? or are most of them dry?
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
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Digging of hole is done. Progress towards building the hobbit hole has been kind of slow because moving soil in 30% humidity in 90-something degree weather has been a bitch and I've been kind of depressed. The hole is near-circular, with a radius of about 5 feet, and is 4.5 ft below ground. I found some junked wood in the forest, but the planks are too short to be used for the roof so I'll probably just use them for sealing/reinforcing the walls.
>>119376 There's some creeks that feed in and out of Lake Conroe, honestly the only time they're not near-stagnant is after it rains, but then again I haven't explored all of the forest yet.
>>118042 What he
>>118178 said. There's some other methods for hollowing out stems in here that people have mentioned that involve taking a sharpened, possibly heated wire and driving it through the stem.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
Digging of hole is done. Progress towards building the hobbit hole has been kind of slow because moving soil in 70% humidity in 90-something degree weather has been a bitch and I've been kind of depressed. The hole is near-circular, with a radius of about 5 feet, and is 4.5 ft below ground. I found some junked wood in the forest, but the planks are too short to be used for the roof so I'll probably just use them for sealing/reinforcing the walls.
>>119376 There's some creeks that feed in and out of Lake Conroe, honestly the only time they're not near-stagnant is after it rains, but then again I haven't explored all of the forest yet.
>>118042 What he
>>118178 said. There's some other methods for hollowing out stems in here that people have mentioned that involve taking a sharpened, possibly heated wire and driving it through the stem.
Weird Texan !!vZHDi0mGEw+
>>119405 East Texas clay. I've exposed the layer of clay in the hole and cleared away the sand and silt so that by the time I come back from my wisdom tooth surgery, it should sun-dry into a flat, concretelike surface for my floor. Also with the colored impurities, the material would probably also make for really beautiful pottery.
Next steps in construction will be building up mounds on the perimeter of the hole and laying the beams for the roof.
Anonymous
Is there currently a burn ban out there? I had a little fire going out next to lake conroe and a fucking apache helo came by low...I guess he was just spotting people because maybe 30 min after, another helo circled around low and then told me to put it out lol...you seen any of this shit? Only in America would they rather fly around in multiple helos than simply put up some signs
Anonymous
>>119412 that clay is gonna go right back to being damp when you cover it with anything. do you have any way to source sand or gravel? even something like shredded Styrofoam? that clay is going to be forever damp and take up any water its exposed too.
I think you already mentioned you have read the 50 $ underground house book? if not you need too. I think there is a torrent up, or was
Anonymous
Are there archives of this dude's previous threads? Shit looks interesting as hell.
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>>119930 I planned on putting a layer of poly tarp between the floor and whatever carpeting I use anyway, though with my design there should be no direct contact between groundwater or rain and most of the floor (the entryway will likely see some moisture).
>>119919 Not currently because we've been getting good rain, then again what I'm doing is already illegal in a few aspects, but its done by area. Jesus thats some dystopian shit if some heli swooped down just to tell you to put your fire by the lake out.
>>120052 I saved the last thread #2, if you want a zip, shoot me an email, theres no reliable archive for /out/ yet.